Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Darth Mole]

One of my attempts so far. Hope it isn't too off the mark!

[image: Logo1.png]

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Springer!
>
> I love your artwork! very nice!
>
> Minor comments:
> 1. Why not host the image on 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
> dropbox?
> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them 
> on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
> 3. It is good to have 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and 
> future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:
>
>> Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: 
>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>>
>> [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mat
>>>
>>> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
>>> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
>>> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
>>> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
>>> '5.2.0'.
>>>
>>> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters 
>>> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what 
>>> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>
>>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>>>
>>> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous 
>>> question). Those two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be 
>>> possible to make some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 
>>>
>>> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the 
>>> design idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g 
>>> the "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. 
>>> Should the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>>>
 Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
 more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections 
 to 
 actual tiddlers. Great progress!

 @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 
 at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
 come up with ideas for fewer digits.

 <:-)

 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the 
> next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called 
> v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.
>
> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very 
> important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
> format 
> used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>
> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop 
> tools that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is 
> some limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing 
> tools 
> will need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>
> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer 
> ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps 
> us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
> prominently as possible.
>
> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names 
> now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we 
> can 
> have fields called "⛄️".
>
> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
> inspected here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>
> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design 
> the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the 
> opening 
> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
> the changes in the new version.
>
> The rules for the competition are:
>
> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
> * 

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Darth Mole]

Just something I threw together.

[image: Logo1.png]

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 11:47:50 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Springer!
>
> I love your artwork! very nice!
>
> Minor comments:
> 1. Why not host the image on 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use 
> dropbox?
> 2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them 
> on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
> 3. It is good to have 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and 
> future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all 
> previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:
>
>> Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: 
>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>>
>> [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mat
>>>
>>> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
>>> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
>>> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
>>> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
>>> '5.2.0'.
>>>
>>> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters 
>>> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what 
>>> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>
>>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>>>
>>> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous 
>>> question). Those two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be 
>>> possible to make some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 
>>>
>>> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the 
>>> design idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g 
>>> the "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. 
>>> Should the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>>>
 Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
 more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections 
 to 
 actual tiddlers. Great progress!

 @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 
 at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
 come up with ideas for fewer digits.

 <:-)

 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the 
> next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called 
> v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.
>
> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very 
> important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
> format 
> used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>
> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop 
> tools that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is 
> some limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing 
> tools 
> will need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>
> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer 
> ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps 
> us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
> prominently as possible.
>
> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names 
> now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we 
> can 
> have fields called "⛄️".
>
> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
> inspected here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>
> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design 
> the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the 
> opening 
> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
> the changes in the new version.
>
> The rules for the competition are:
>
> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
> * The image must be a PNG, 

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Springer!

I love your artwork! very nice!

Minor comments:
1. Why not host the image on
https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use
dropbox?
2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them
on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
3. It is good to have
https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and
future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all
previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:

> Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site:
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>
> [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Mat
>>
>> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there
>> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's
>> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the
>> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version
>> '5.2.0'.
>>
>> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters
>> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what
>> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>>
>> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>>
>> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those
>> two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make
>> some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other.
>>
>> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design
>> idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the
>> "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should
>> the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?...
>>
>> <:-)
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much
>>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to
>>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>>
>>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0
>>> at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to
>>> come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
 This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the
 next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called
 v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.

 We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very
 important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format
 used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.

 The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools
 that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some
 limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will
 need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.

 Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer
 ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps
 us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and
 prominently as possible.

 The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names
 now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are
 case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a
 different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can
 have fields called "⛄️".

 These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be
 inspected here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708

 So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design
 the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening
 HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of
 the changes in the new version.

 The rules for the competition are:

 * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and
 readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
 * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
 * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new
 in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
 * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up
 in a previous competition
 * Reply to this message with your entry, or any 

[tw5] Re: Removing Collapsible Arrow/Funcion from toc-tabbed-internal-nav

[Darth Mole]

Hello Springer and thank you for your reply!

I have used Tabs elsewhere, sadly it doesn't provide the same functionality 
as the toc-tabbed-internal-nav macro. They look similar but when you use 
the -internal- links clicked on inside of displayed tiddlers open in the 
right hand column. It keeps the display all inside the single tiddler. You 
don't have access to the tiddler controls though. It was the opening new 
tiddlers inside the right column that I was looking to use.

Thank you again though! 

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:56:04 PM UTC-4 springer wrote:

> If you don't want the hierarchical deep-dive that the toc macro offers, 
> you could just use a set of tabs:
>
> <>
>
> (Here, you'll get one tab for each tiddler with the BigIdeas tag, with the 
> one entitled StartHere displaying by default.)
>
> -Springer
> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 12:47:37 AM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm currently in a love hate relationship with the 
>> new toc-tabbed-internal-nav macro for my current project. 
>>
>> I'm not even sure if what I want to do is possible:
>>
>> Is there anyway to remove the > that appears next to the headers? 
>>
>> I only want the first level to show on the left of the two column window 
>> that is generated by using the above macro. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Finn Lancaster]

Yes. The 90 into 28 is taking into account responses to the conversations, 
which will lower the count. GG just likes to make things difficult, so it 
split them all up. Since the loading thing was not planned for at first, I 
just connected it to my counter variable that is added to after every 
successful request, hence the 90. In the code, there is an if statement 
with a comment "code goes here." In the future, this part will deal with 
the repeats.

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:59:51 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Random chars as you also found. But that was not the only thing. 90 of 90 
> conversations ended up in 28 imported tiddlers. 
>
> The good news is that it kind of worked - as I am using a low end 12 year 
> old laptop with 8 gb ram.
>
> Birthe
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:39:23 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've 
>> never seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no 
>> issues, since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it 
>> has been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in 
>> between, or was it just a jumble?
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I 
>>> exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It 
>>> worked - but totally unreadable.
>>>
>>> Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
 conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
 truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
 minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 

 *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, 
 and try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
 using. *

 To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 
 conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON 
 data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import 
 them (drag and drop works best).

 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao flanc...
>
> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
> this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Random chars as you also found. But that was not the only thing. 90 of 90 
conversations ended up in 28 imported tiddlers. 

The good news is that it kind of worked - as I am using a low end 12 year 
old laptop with 8 gb ram.

Birthe
On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:39:23 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've 
> never seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no 
> issues, since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it 
> has been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in 
> between, or was it just a jumble?
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I 
>> exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It 
>> worked - but totally unreadable.
>>
>> Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.
>>
>> Birthe
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
>>> conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
>>> truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
>>> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>>>
>>> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
>>> try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
>>> using. *
>>>
>>> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 
>>> conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON 
>>> data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import 
>>> them (drag and drop works best).
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
 Ciao flanc...

 The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
 this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...


 [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]

 Best wishes
 TT



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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Finn Lancaster]

Yep, just got the same thing. The issue seems to be that TW doesn't auto 
URIdecode imported text, which seems quite a bit... obtuse. I'll push a 
quick-fix tonight or tomorrow 

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:39:23 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've 
> never seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no 
> issues, since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it 
> has been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in 
> between, or was it just a jumble?
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I 
>> exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It 
>> worked - but totally unreadable.
>>
>> Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.
>>
>> Birthe
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
>>> conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
>>> truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
>>> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>>>
>>> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
>>> try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
>>> using. *
>>>
>>> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 
>>> conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON 
>>> data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import 
>>> them (drag and drop works best).
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
 Ciao flanc...

 The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
 this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...


 [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]

 Best wishes
 TT



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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Finn Lancaster]

Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've never 
seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no issues, 
since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it has 
been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in 
between, or was it just a jumble?

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I 
> exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It 
> worked - but totally unreadable.
>
> Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.
>
> Birthe
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
>> conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
>> truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
>> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>>
>> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
>> try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
>> using. *
>>
>> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 
>> conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON 
>> data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import 
>> them (drag and drop works best).
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao flanc...
>>>
>>> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
>>> this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[strikke...@gmail.com]

I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I exported 
the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It worked - but 
totally unreadable.

Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.

Birthe
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
> conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
> truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 
>
> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
> try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
> using. *
>
> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 conversations, 
> but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON data, which is 
> recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import them (drag and 
> drop works best).
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao flanc...
>>
>> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get 
>> this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>>
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Jeremy Ruston]

> I'm happy to host all entries again, in an easy-to-compare (and change 
> palettes, etc.) dedicated TW:
> 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/

Thanks, much appreciated!

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mat]

Springer - brilliant!

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:32:30 PM UTC+2 springer wrote:

> Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site: 
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>
> [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Mat
>>
>> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
>> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
>> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
>> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
>> '5.2.0'.
>>
>> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters 
>> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what 
>> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>>
>> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>>
>> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those 
>> two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make 
>> some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 
>>
>> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design 
>> idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the 
>> "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should 
>> the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>>
>> <:-)
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
>>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to 
>>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>>
>>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 
>>> at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
>>> come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
 This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the 
 next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called 
 v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.

 We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very 
 important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
 format 
 used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.

 The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
 that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
 limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools 
 will 
 need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.

 Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer 
 ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps 
 us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
 prominently as possible.

 The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names 
 now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
 case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
 different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
 have fields called "⛄️".

 These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
 inspected here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708

 So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design 
 the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
 HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
 the changes in the new version.

 The rules for the competition are:

 * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
 readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
 * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
 * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
 in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
 * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
 in a previous competition
 * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions

 Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:

 v5.1.23 - 
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
 v5.1.22 - 
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
 v5.1.21 - 
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ

 If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the 
 skills to produce finished artwork, do feel 

[tw5] Re: [TW5] group by field

[Boazter]

I have a question about taking this one step further, but first, I just 
want to say thank you, thank you, thank you for this thread (original 
poster and everyone who helped). 

I was able to take this code and incorporate it into a grocery list that 
I'd developed years ago and which I've been wanting to tweak. This code 
allowed me to group my list by the aisle. (In actuality it's more like 
general areas of the store.) It works great and I'm absolutely over the 
moon about it as I had gone down many rabbit holes before I found what I 
was looking for! 

Now I'm wondering about tweaking it further so that it doesn't show the 
name of an aisle when there are no items on the list for that particular 
trip.

Let me 'splain:

I have dozens of tiddlers of various grocery items, each with a field 
called "aisle" with values like "bakery", "dairy", "frozen", "meats." I 
have a full list to choose from of potential grocery items and clicking an 
item tags them with "$purchase" (meaning "to be purchased") and they move 
to the current shopping list. 

With help from this thread I developed the code below to show the current 
shopping list grouped by aisle. As I shop, checking an item on that list 
tags it as "$purchased" (not to be confused with "$purchase" above!) and 
drops it from the list.

Here is the code:

<$list filter="[has[aisle]each[aisle]sort[aisle]]">

<$view field="aisle"/>

<$list filter="[!tag[$purchased]tag[$purchase]aisle{!!aisle}sort[title]]">

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">

<$action-listops $tags="$purchased"/>
 <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/> 


The above might produce a list something like this:

bakery
  bread
  cookies
dairy
  milk
  cream
frozen
meats
  chicken
  sausage
etc.

As you can see, there are items under the "aisle" headers for "bakery", 
"dairy" and "meats"; but none under "frozen". What I want is, if there are 
no items from the frozen aisle (aisle="frozen") tagged with "$purchase", 
then suppress the header (in this case "frozen") from appearing on the 
list. That is, only show the header for "aisles" that contain items tagged 
with "$purchase". 

I thought I could fix this by adding "tag[$purchase]" to the first filter 
but doing so caused my list to completely disappear.

My skill level is pretty basic but improving. Is there an easy fix for 
this? Am I missing something obvious? 

Best regards and thank you for any help.

mr

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 at 1:03:14 PM UTC-8 Scott Kingery wrote:

> Well, I'm almost there.
>
> Example wiki: 
> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/118970/wiki/scottexamples.html
> When you look at the example you'll see the issue. It is mostly working 
> but things aren't showing up as they should. I've outlined it in the 
> Problems tiddler you'll see when you look at the example.
>
> My code:
> <$list 
> filter="[is[current]tagging[]has[subtopic]each[subtopic]sort[subtopic]]">
> 
> <$view field="subtopic"/>
> 
> <$list filter="[subtopic{!!subtopic}sort[title]]">
> 
> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/> 
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:08:12 PM UTC-8, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>
>> Thanks everyone.
>> cmari, the each[subtopic] was the piece I was missing I think.
>>
>> Additionally, I'm trying to do what you want as well by having the 
>> list search for tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler's title. I 
>> borrowed this: 
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[title]]">
>>
>> from http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm. It gets us a bit closer by I 
>> can't seem to get the syntax right to merge it in with what you gave me 
>> before.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 2, 2014 1:38:30 PM UTC-8, cmari wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> I was fiddling around with something similar yesterday.  In case it's of 
>>> interest, here's the (far more rudimentary approach than Stephan's) 
>>> approach I came up with.  Note that this doesn't make use of tags at all, 
>>> it simply finds all the tiddlers that contain a field called subtopic, and 
>>> then lists those tiddlers (alphabetically) by subtopic. You could of course 
>>> sort the lists differently, and you could filter for a particular tag by 
>>> adding, e.g., [tag[Movie], to the second list filter. I would have liked to 
>>> be able to search for tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler's title, or 
>>> even tag, but I don't know how to do that in any generic way, so I opted 
>>> instead to use a unique field name in the tiddlers I wanted in my list.  
>>>
>>> (Also, obviously, you could take out the styles; I was just seeing what 
>>> I could do with the options that already existed).
>>>
>>> <$list 
>>> filter="[!is[system]has[subtopic]each[subtopic]sort[subtopic]]">>> class="tw-menu-list-item"><$link to={{!!subtopic}}><$view 
>>> tiddler={{!!subtopic}} field="title"/> 
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[subtopic{!!subtopic}sort[title]]">
>>> 
>>> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> cmari
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:45:26 AM UTC-8, Scott Kingery 

[tw5] Re: Removing Collapsible Arrow/Funcion from toc-tabbed-internal-nav

[springer]

If you don't want the hierarchical deep-dive that the toc macro offers, you 
could just use a set of tabs:

<>

(Here, you'll get one tab for each tiddler with the BigIdeas tag, with the 
one entitled StartHere displaying by default.)

-Springer
On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 12:47:37 AM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm currently in a love hate relationship with the 
> new toc-tabbed-internal-nav macro for my current project. 
>
> I'm not even sure if what I want to do is possible:
>
> Is there anyway to remove the > that appears next to the headers? 
>
> I only want the first level to show on the left of the two column window 
> that is generated by using the above macro. 
>
> Thank you!
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Finn Lancaster]

Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how many 
conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it is 
truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around a 
minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you! 

*Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time, and 
try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am 
using. *

To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90 conversations, 
but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON data, which is 
recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import them (drag and 
drop works best).

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao flanc...
>
> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get this 
> but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Saq Imtiaz]

It might be helpful to look at the release notes:
https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20Pre-release

I am biased but I think visually the image drag and drop stuff in the 
editor stands out, so that could be an idea.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[springer]

Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at 
site: https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields

[image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mat
>
> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
> '5.2.0'.
>
> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters might 
> be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what is in 
> the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>
> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>
> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those 
> two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make 
> some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 
>
> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design 
> idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the 
> "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should 
> the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>
>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to 
>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>
>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 
>> at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
>> come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
>>> release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, 
>>> which requires a little explanation.
>>>
>>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
>>> change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
>>> encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>>
>>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
>>> that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
>>> limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will 
>>> need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>>
>>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer 
>>> ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps 
>>> us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
>>> prominently as possible.
>>>
>>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names 
>>> now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
>>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
>>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
>>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>>
>>> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
>>> inspected here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>>
>>> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design 
>>> the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
>>> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
>>> the changes in the new version.
>>>
>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>>
>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
>>> in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
>>> in a previous competition
>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>>
>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>>
>>> v5.1.23 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
>>> v5.1.22 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>> v5.1.21 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>>
>>> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the 
>>> skills to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in 
>>> case somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>>>
>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
>>> than one submission I’ll set up a Google 

Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mat]

Fair enuff!
<:-)

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:13:44 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> Hi Mat
>
> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there 
> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's 
> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the 
> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version 
> '5.2.0'.
>
> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters might 
> be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what is in 
> the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>
> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>
> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those 
> two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make 
> some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 
>
> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design 
> idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the 
> "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should 
> the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
>
> <:-)
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>
>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much 
>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to 
>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>
>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 
>> at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
>> come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
>>> release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, 
>>> which requires a little explanation.
>>>
>>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
>>> change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
>>> encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>>
>>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
>>> that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
>>> limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will 
>>> need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>>
>>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer 
>>> ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps 
>>> us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
>>> prominently as possible.
>>>
>>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names 
>>> now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
>>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
>>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
>>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>>
>>> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
>>> inspected here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>>
>>> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design 
>>> the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
>>> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
>>> the changes in the new version.
>>>
>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>>
>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
>>> in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
>>> in a previous competition
>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>>
>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>>
>>> v5.1.23 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
>>> v5.1.22 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>> v5.1.21 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>>
>>> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the 
>>> skills to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in 
>>> case somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>>>
>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
>>> than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>>
>>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>

[tw5] Draggable list of links that comes from a filter

[Sebastián Ortega]

Hello,
I know how to get list of links that you can reorder with drag and drop for 
these cases:

   - Using list-links-draggable for tiddlers stored in a list field
   - Using list-tagged-draggable for tiddlers tagged and maybe restricted 
   with a filter

But how to get such draggable list of links for an arbitrary filter when 
tiddlers doesn't share a tag? Did you ever need something like that?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there will  be 
a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's important for 
everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the versions. Stated another 
way, this is not version '5.2', this is version '5.2.0'.

I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters might be a 
bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what is in the 
release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
> 
> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
> 
> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those two 
> digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make some 
> kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 
> 
> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design 
> idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the 
> "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should the 
> garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 
> 
> <:-)
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much more 
>> prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to 
>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>> 
>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 at 
>> end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to come 
>> up with ideas for fewer digits.
>> 
>> <:-)
>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
>>> release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, 
>>> which requires a little explanation.
>>> 
>>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
>>> change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
>>> encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>> 
>>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
>>> that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
>>> limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will 
>>> need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>> 
>>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer ask 
>>> "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps us to 
>>> make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
>>> prominently as possible.
>>> 
>>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names now 
>>> have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
>>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
>>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
>>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>> 
>>> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be inspected 
>>> here:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>> 
>>> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design the 
>>> banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
>>> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
>>> the changes in the new version.
>>> 
>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>> 
>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new in 
>>> 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up in 
>>> a previous competition
>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>> 
>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>> 
>>> v5.1.23 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
>>> v5.1.22 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>> v5.1.21 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>> 
>>> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills 
>>> to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case 
>>> somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>>> 
>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
>>> than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jeremy
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>> https://jermolene.com
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[tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[springer]

Jeremy and all,

I'm happy to host all entries again, in an easy-to-compare (and change 
palettes, etc.) dedicated TW:

https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/

-Springer

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:14:17 AM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
> release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, 
> which requires a little explanation.
>
> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
> change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
> encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>
> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
> that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
> limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will 
> need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>
> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer ask 
> "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps us to 
> make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
> prominently as possible.
>
> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names now 
> have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
> have fields called "⛄️".
>
> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be inspected 
> here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>
> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design the 
> banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
> the changes in the new version.
>
> The rules for the competition are:
>
> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new in 
> 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up in 
> a previous competition
> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>
> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>
> v5.1.23 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
> v5.1.22 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
> v5.1.21 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>
> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills 
> to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case 
> somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>
> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
> than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>
> Best wishes and many thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>

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[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[James Anderson]

Just tested and unfortunately not right now.

I have a few places where i call 
WshShell.Run( "cmd /c " + path + " " + args ); From a quick google making 
the "cmd /c" part call "powershell -File " maybe with some other settings 
like -executionpolicy unrestricted.

I know next to nothing about powershell though.

if you take a look 
at http://welford.github.io/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwelford%2Ftwexe%2Ftwexe.js
specifically 
TWExeWidget.prototype.runTiddler = function (event) {
TWExeWidget.prototype.openFile = function (event) {

and can give me a working string format for  powershell scripts i can 
update the plugin to provide the shell in which it will run via a field. 
e.g. twexe_shell: powershell, so that we can support both.



On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 19:18:45 UTC+1 Si wrote:

> Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
> similar a while ago.
>
> Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>>
>> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
>> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the updated 
>> plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>>
>> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a batch 
>> file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
>> environments, not cross platform). 
>>
>> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
>> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
>> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>>
>> in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local node.js 
>> tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and the first 
>> arg passed to it.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mat]

Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:

First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those 
two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make 
some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other. 

Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design 
idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the 
"TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should 
the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?... 

<:-)
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much more 
> prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to 
> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>
> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 at 
> end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
> come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
>> release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, 
>> which requires a little explanation.
>>
>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
>> change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
>> encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>
>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
>> that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
>> limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will 
>> need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>
>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer 
>> ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps 
>> us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
>> prominently as possible.
>>
>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names now 
>> have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>
>> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be 
>> inspected here:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>
>> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design the 
>> banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
>> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
>> the changes in the new version.
>>
>> The rules for the competition are:
>>
>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new in 
>> 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
>> in a previous competition
>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>
>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>
>> v5.1.23 - 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
>> v5.1.22 - 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>> v5.1.21 - 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>
>> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the 
>> skills to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in 
>> case somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>>
>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
>> than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>
>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you for your comment Si. I will revise the description in the next
release!
In its original form Shiraz is a small CSS and macro framework! but later
on it extended to cover tables. images, etc...

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 9:31 PM Si  wrote:

> >>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing
> else!
>
> Yes, and its very cool! I'm just saying that I don't understand the logic
> of keeping it all in one plugin. A plugin that just contains "Things that
> use CSS" seems a little broad to me, and doesn't tell you much about the
> actual purpose of the plugin?
>
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:38:17 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and
>>> useful, however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like
>>> they should belong in a separate plugin.
>>>
>>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
>>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>>
>>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
>>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
>>> far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of
>>> stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."
>>>
>>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
>>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
>>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
>>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
>>> not to install them.
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic to
>>> including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin that I
>>> am not seeing?
>>>
>>
>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing else!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[Tariq A]

Birthe, I'll be looking at this solution as it may be exactly what I need
in place of TiddlyDesktop. Thanks!

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:33 AM strikke...@gmail.com <
strikkeglad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe it is time to stop using TiddlyDesktop for now. It seems there are
> some problems with this version of it. Wait for a new version if you still
> want Tiddlydesktop.
>
> Download empty tiddlywiki from Tiddlywiki.com and use a saver. I love
> Timimi by Riz. It is kind of a fairy godmother - save and creates backups.
> It is all about setting it up right. Luckily Riz explains everything here:
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
> I love using Tiddlywiki in the browser. Easy to make notes from stuff I
> read, saving linksand best - to drag and drop plugins and other things
> from the Tiddlywikis other people show us.
>
> I have one of my tiddlywikies pinned in the browser - and thus always
> ready. This one is used for tips and tricks tested and written in my own
> language Danish. (After many years this is really the one TW5 I am using
> all the time). That is due to the fact, that to create it I must have
> understood something at the time of creating.
>
> Also by now I have far more tiddlywikis than I would want to have listed
> in Tiddlydesktop.
>
>
> I really hope you get to enjoy the tiddlywiki experience soon,
>
> Birthe
>
>
> On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 10:45:11 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm still getting the same error message:
>>
>> [9629:9629:0603/160810.303573:ERROR:sandbox.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox()
>> called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
>>
>> I figured that I can still edit the html files after creating them by
>> opening the file manually (not using TiddlyDesktop)
>>
>> I can use TiddlyDesktop to create the new HTML files, then shut down TD
>> by exiting the terminal, and then editing teh html file by clicking on the
>> file where it's stored.
>>
>> I'm wondering, besides making saving files a breeze and managing backups,
>> are there any other benefits to TiddlyDesktop? The error I'm having just
>> stops me
>> from using TD to open/manage the files. I think can deal with having to
>> manually back up the files.
>>
>> If anyone has any questions regarding this problem I'd be happy to
>> answer. Or any possible solutions.
>>
>> Thanks for continuing to look into this, I appreciate any help I can get
>> because I'd like to use TiddlyWiki for work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is still giving the same exact error as before?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 2:08:32 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>
 Ok I followed the instructions and I've successfully installed
 libgconf2-4 but unfortunately the problem persists.

 Frustrating!

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:37 AM Darth Mole 
 wrote:

> The instructions seem legit.
>
> Try checking out the instructions on this site as well:
> https://itsfoss.com/unable-to-locate-package-error-ubuntu/
>
> itsfoss.com, imo, is a great website and I've found many of solutions
> on there.
>
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 12:19:42 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work. I got this message:
>>
>> ~& sudo apt install libconf2-4
>> [sudo] password for user:
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> E: Unable to locate package libconf2-4
>>
>> This website doesn't look reputable, which is why I'm not just trying
>> out what it recommends.
>> https://zoomadmin.com/HowToInstall/UbuntuPackage/libgconf-2-4
>>
>> But the website suggests that to install libconf2-4 I have to write:
>>
>> sudo apt-get update -y
>> sudo apt-get install -y libgconf-2-4
>>
>> Can anyone confirm that this would be the way to go?
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:36:26 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I preface what I'm about to write with:
>>>
>>> I'm very new to linux as well and probably just know enough to be
>>> dangerous. However, given the wording of the error, and that you still 
>>> get
>>> it after following the linked steps, I would personally try the 
>>> following
>>> if I was experiencing the issue.
>>>
>>> With everything closed I would run the following command in your
>>> terminal:
>>>
>>> $sudo apt install libgconf2-4
>>>
>>> If it asks to install listed package with a y/n type Y and then
>>> enter to continue the install. Depending on how that goes, restart your
>>> machine and then try the ./nw launch again.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 4:44:00 PM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>
 I've followed the link and it doesn't seem to be the same issue.
 Although both problems pertain to the nw file, I can still 

Re: [tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[Tariq A]

DM, Thank you for the effort at solving the problem for me, but I guess
it's time to give up on TiddlyDesktop. I'm going to look into Timimi as per
Birthe's suggestion because I was looking forward to being able to add
plugins.

Thanks a bunch for your help!

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 12:09 AM Darth Mole  wrote:

> Ok, that error remains but the other one about the missing libconfg2-4 is
> gone it seems. I'll look into it a bit more.
>
> TiddlyDesktop is basically an application that allows a user to open,
> modify, and save their TiddlyWikis (the .html files) on their desktop.
> Since TiddlyWiki contains various scripts that require an active server (or
> equivalent) to properly function. TiddlyDesktop provides the needed
> environment. You can also use an externally hosted service like TiddlyHost,
> it just won't be on your local machine. There are also browser plugins for
> you to host and edit your TiddlyWiki files from online file sharing
> services like Google Drive or Dropbox.
>
> Instead of using TiddlyDesktop to create your TiddlyWikis you can also
> just go to https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted and then click on the
> blue download button. The empty.html is a fully functional TiddlyWiki file.
> Below the download button is also an area that you can use to see what
> options are available to use TiddlyWiki based on OS and/or Browser
> requirements.
>
> In fact, you may want to try doing the download and then using
> TiddlyDesktop to *Open* the empty.html file you downloaded into your
> Downloads folder to see if it still throws the error.
>
> TiddlyDesktop is simply a single tool among many that allows a user to
> properly use the TiddlyWiki html file.
>
> Hope this helps a bit! Let me know if you still get the error after you
> download the TiddlyWiki file from TiddlyWiki.com and then *open* it using
> TiddlyDesktop *versus* trying to *create* it in TiddlyDesktop.
>
> On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 4:45:11 PM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm still getting the same error message:
>>
>> [9629:9629:0603/160810.303573:ERROR:sandbox.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox()
>> called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
>>
>> I figured that I can still edit the html files after creating them by
>> opening the file manually (not using TiddlyDesktop)
>>
>> I can use TiddlyDesktop to create the new HTML files, then shut down TD
>> by exiting the terminal, and then editing teh html file by clicking on the
>> file where it's stored.
>>
>> I'm wondering, besides making saving files a breeze and managing backups,
>> are there any other benefits to TiddlyDesktop? The error I'm having just
>> stops me
>> from using TD to open/manage the files. I think can deal with having to
>> manually back up the files.
>>
>> If anyone has any questions regarding this problem I'd be happy to
>> answer. Or any possible solutions.
>>
>> Thanks for continuing to look into this, I appreciate any help I can get
>> because I'd like to use TiddlyWiki for work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is still giving the same exact error as before?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 2:08:32 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>>
 Ok I followed the instructions and I've successfully installed
 libgconf2-4 but unfortunately the problem persists.

 Frustrating!

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:37 AM Darth Mole 
 wrote:

> The instructions seem legit.
>
> Try checking out the instructions on this site as well:
> https://itsfoss.com/unable-to-locate-package-error-ubuntu/
>
> itsfoss.com, imo, is a great website and I've found many of solutions
> on there.
>
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 12:19:42 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work. I got this message:
>>
>> ~& sudo apt install libconf2-4
>> [sudo] password for user:
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> E: Unable to locate package libconf2-4
>>
>> This website doesn't look reputable, which is why I'm not just trying
>> out what it recommends.
>> https://zoomadmin.com/HowToInstall/UbuntuPackage/libgconf-2-4
>>
>> But the website suggests that to install libconf2-4 I have to write:
>>
>> sudo apt-get update -y
>> sudo apt-get install -y libgconf-2-4
>>
>> Can anyone confirm that this would be the way to go?
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:36:26 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I preface what I'm about to write with:
>>>
>>> I'm very new to linux as well and probably just know enough to be
>>> dangerous. However, given the wording of the error, and that you still 
>>> get
>>> it after following the linked steps, I would personally try the 
>>> following
>>> if I was experiencing the issue.
>>>
>>> With everything closed I 

[tw5] Re: twexe (the plugin) update

[Si]

Thanks James I did not know this existed! I was looking for something 
similar a while ago.

Can you use it to run PowerShell scripts?
On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 13:31:27 UTC+1 james.w@gmail.com wrote:

> Incase any windows/hta users still use this:
>
> I've updated this plugin. the source is here: 
> https://github.com/welford/twexe and you can grab a copy of the updated 
> plugin from http://welford.github.io/
>
> The big change is that you can run the contents of a tiddler as a batch 
> file, which should help keep things portable (between machines / 
> environments, not cross platform). 
>
> It will create a temporary twexe.bat file in %TEMP% fill it with the 
> contents of the tiddler and then run it. You can change the default 
> temporary location via  $:/plugins/welford/twexe/tmpdir
>
> in the attached image i have two examples, one will run my local node.js 
> tw, the other just an example batch file that prints hello and the first 
> arg passed to it.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mat]

Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much more 
prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to 
actual tiddlers. Great progress!

@Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0 at 
end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to 
come up with ideas for fewer digits.

<:-)

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
> release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, 
> which requires a little explanation.
>
> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
> change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
> encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>
> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools 
> that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some 
> limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will 
> need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>
> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer ask 
> "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps us to 
> make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and 
> prominently as possible.
>
> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names now 
> have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are 
> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a 
> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can 
> have fields called "⛄️".
>
> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be inspected 
> here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>
> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design the 
> banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of 
> the changes in the new version.
>
> The rules for the competition are:
>
> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new in 
> 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up in 
> a previous competition
> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>
> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>
> v5.1.23 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
> v5.1.22 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
> v5.1.21 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>
> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills 
> to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case 
> somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>
> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
> than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>
> Best wishes and many thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>
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> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>

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[tw5] Re: [question] plugin that turn a transclusion into a clickable link in edit mode ?

[Saq Imtiaz]

@si @Telumire

Here is a very simplistic, quick and rough proof of concept for adding some 
helpful popups in codemirror:
https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/cm-plus-tweaks.html
(Needs current pre-release of TW)

Try ctrl+click on different parts of tiddler links and transclusions.
The popup itself is entirely wikitext based so can be easily customized.

[image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 195609.png]

[image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 195705.png]

Note that cmplus does not distinguish between simple transclusions, 
transclusions with templates and filtered templates. While you can work 
around this in wikitext, adding support in cmplus would make life a lot 
easier.

Another approach would be to embed clickable elements in the editor next to 
links and transclusions. Rapid tiddler uses this approach so if someone 
wants to take that route, the code pattern there is probably helpful for 
follow:
https://github.com/MeneDev/RapidTiddler

Cheers,
Saq

On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 8:22:24 PM UTC+2 si wrote:

> >>> CodeMirror is able to parse links, so maybe someone made an addon 
> build upon it allowing this functionnality ? I searched but ultimately 
> found nothing .. 
>
> I'm not aware of any currently existing plugin, but CodeMirrorPlus has an 
> open ticket for adding clickable links in edit mode: 
> https://github.com/adithya-badidey/TW5-codemirror-plus/issues/6
>
> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 00:33:53 UTC+1 Télumire wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a plugin that turn a transclusion into a 
>> clickable link to the tiddler transcluded, in edit mode?
>>
>> The process would be as follows: 
>>
>> I want to edit a tiddler (A). When the editor opens, I see that I have 
>> transcluded another tiddler (e.g. {{B}}) inside the tiddler A. 
>>
>> I want to edit what is in B, so rather than copy/paste the title of 
>> tiddler B into the search bar, click on the relevant tiddler in the search 
>> result, then edit the tiddler B, this plugin would allow me to simply click 
>> on {{B}}, which open the tiddler B, ideally already in edit mode. This 
>> would save a lot of time !
>>
>> CodeMirror is able to parse links, so maybe someone made an addon build 
>> upon it allowing this functionnality ? I searched but ultimately found 
>> nothing ..
>>
>> PS : I know that it's possible to use a macro instead of a standard 
>> transclusion (like discussed here 
>> https://tiddlywiki.narkive.com/dxOiR2Vn/tw-tw5-including-a-link-when-transcluding)
>>  
>> but I dont want to change the way the tiddler is displayed in view mode.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao flanc...

The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I get this 
but no results appear on click ... :-( ...


[image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Mat]

Oh! This sounds really cool but I don't get the demo to show anything. Does 
this scrape the gg pages? Do you have any thoughts on how the tiddlers 
should/could be stored?
<:-)

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:35:03 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Recently, I have been inspired by many complaining about GG, and have thus 
> built a [beta] version of a GG to TW converter. While still full of bugs 
> and in need of much more work and polishing, you can still get a gist of 
> how it will work when fully completed. 
> A demo is available at my website subdomain gg2tw.finnsoftware.net, and 
> the project has a GitHub at https://github.com/flancast90/GG2TW/
>
> What I will be adding: For those of you that have tested, you can see that 
> the text of the tiddler includes needless strings such as "Forward", 
> "Reply", and more from the text-grabbing from GG: I will fix this soon when 
> I have time. In addition to this, I have just thrown together the UI in 5 
> minutes, so it will be upgraded, too. 
> Furthermore, it will soon be able to handle larger downloads, and a way 
> for you to select which page you would like to get it from.
>
> *Note for those running it locally bc of download: The API in use to 
> bypass CORS is quite finicky, and will throw an error. To fix this (only 
> needed if downloaded and not run via given subdomain) , just clear all your 
> browser history and cache: The API will reset the CORS access Header.*
>
> I would appreciate to hear some of your questions, comments, and concerns, 
> and I will answer them ASAP. Feel free to Star, Fork, Download, or Open an 
> Issue at the project's GitHub:  https://github.com/flancast90/GG2TW/
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Si]

>>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing 
else! 

Yes, and its very cool! I'm just saying that I don't understand the logic 
of keeping it all in one plugin. A plugin that just contains "Things that 
use CSS" seems a little broad to me, and doesn't tell you much about the 
actual purpose of the plugin?

On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:38:17 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
>> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
>> belong in a separate plugin.
>>
>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
>> For example:
>>
>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>
>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
>> far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of 
>> stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."
>>
>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
>> not to install them.
>>
>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
>> plugins. 
>>
>
>
>  
>
>> It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic to 
>> including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin that I 
>> am not seeing?
>>
>
> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing else!
>
>
>  
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it?

[James Anderson]

I might do, I've not really found a short version of what will stop working 
when 5.2 is released. but i'd like to keep all my plugins up to date.

On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 16:42:41 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi James,
> Your workflow is popular, if you look at the forum you will find many 
> posts about it!
> So, I may propose with the advent of many new features in 5.1.2x it is 
> worth updating the workflow!
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 6:08 PM James Anderson  
> wrote:
>
>> I wrote a static blog exporter several years back for TW
>>
>> explanation of it here: 
>> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/example.html
>> which itself exports to:
>> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-styled/index.html
>> and 
>> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-basic/index.html
>>
>> i also use it for my personal blog here http://www.phasersonkill.com/ 
>>
>> The thing is pretty flexible once you have it setup, most of what you 
>> want could be achieved. " a sort of carousel widget with single sections 
>> from the book, with arrows left and right to flip through them." might 
>> require a little extra work though.
>>
>> On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 14:45:19 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> As much as I value WordPress my personal belief is tiddlywiki would  be 
>>> ideal, I would start with others book style wikis to get going. 
>>>
>>> I understand the value of static websites for search may be valuable 
>>> however the interactive wiki offers much more. The compromise would be a 
>>> static site on which every page link opens  the interactive wiki, add a 
>>> splash screen to inform them you are loading the whole book for easy search.
>>>
>>> I started building a template to support this but not completed it yet. 
>>> Hopefully someone has done it and can share a revised template for its 
>>> export. 
>>> If you can serve a node implementation securely on the internet would be 
>>> better and it can automatically serve both static and interactive content. 
>>>
>>> By the way 70,000 words with an average length 490,000 characters, Not 
>>> even half a Megabyte is trivial, I have happily used 6-12Mb single file 
>>> wikis without any concern.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 23:03:06 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello!

 As much as I love TiddlyWiki and think it could work for your use 
 cases, I feel I would be remiss to not point out another option: 
 *WordPress*



 On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 7:37:42 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi Kosmaton
>
> You could use TiddlyWiki in node.js, and export and upload tiddlers to 
> your free webhosting service as static htmls, no database needed. With 
> some 
> CSS, you could design it as you wish, in a way that it doesn't look 
> TiddlyWiki-ish, and there are plugins to make the layout mobile-friendly. 
> The book page, home page and news page are all doable. The book page 
> could 
> be handled with details elements (HTML, not the details widget plugin) 
> and 
> transclusions. So yes, everything you mentioned can be done.
>
> Alternately, you could do the same with a regular standalone TW 
> uploaded to your free webhosting service. Doing it as a standalone means 
> the opening page would not load as quickly as a small static html page, 
> but 
> most people wouldn't notice the difference, and it would give you many 
> more 
> options for how to handle the book page, for example the table of 
> contents 
> feature in TiddlyWiki.
>
> What might not work, though I may be wrong, is having a user comments 
> section, but then you did not mention that. I know there is at least one 
> user comments plugin, but I haven't played with it.
>
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:28:54 PM UTC-5 Kosmaton wrote:
>
>> Hello Tiddly people,
>>  
>> I'm meaning to create a new website, and I'd like to ask your opinion 
>> whether TiddlyWiki is the right tool (or one of the tools) for it.
>>  
>> I used to have a pre-TW5 site on TiddlySpace back in the day. I'm 
>> semi-programming-and-webdesign-literate, in an ad hoc and rusty way. No 
>> experience with databases unfortunately, which may be relevant.
>>  
>> The website I have in mind would be a combination of a non-fiction 
>> book (already written, but expandable/changeable), and an associated 
>> blog. 
>> The book is organized as a big tree of numbered paragraphs/sections: 1, 
>> 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2, 2, 2.1 etc. These sections frequently refer to one 
>> another; it's a hypertext in itself.
>>  
>> * The site would mainly need to have:
>>  
>> 1) a page that displays the book, with a Table of Contents.
>>   - The TOC should be hideable as a whole.
>>   - The branches of the TOC should be collapsible, i.e. click on 1 to 

Re: [tw5] Re: Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi James,
Your workflow is popular, if you look at the forum you will find many posts
about it!
So, I may propose with the advent of many new features in 5.1.2x it is
worth updating the workflow!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 6:08 PM James Anderson 
wrote:

> I wrote a static blog exporter several years back for TW
>
> explanation of it here:
> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/example.html
> which itself exports to:
> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-styled/index.html
> and
> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-basic/index.html
>
> i also use it for my personal blog here http://www.phasersonkill.com/
>
> The thing is pretty flexible once you have it setup, most of what you want
> could be achieved. " a sort of carousel widget with single sections from
> the book, with arrows left and right to flip through them." might require a
> little extra work though.
>
> On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 14:45:19 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> As much as I value WordPress my personal belief is tiddlywiki would  be
>> ideal, I would start with others book style wikis to get going.
>>
>> I understand the value of static websites for search may be valuable
>> however the interactive wiki offers much more. The compromise would be a
>> static site on which every page link opens  the interactive wiki, add a
>> splash screen to inform them you are loading the whole book for easy search.
>>
>> I started building a template to support this but not completed it yet.
>> Hopefully someone has done it and can share a revised template for its
>> export.
>> If you can serve a node implementation securely on the internet would be
>> better and it can automatically serve both static and interactive content.
>>
>> By the way 70,000 words with an average length 490,000 characters, Not
>> even half a Megabyte is trivial, I have happily used 6-12Mb single file
>> wikis without any concern.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 23:03:06 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> As much as I love TiddlyWiki and think it could work for your use cases,
>>> I feel I would be remiss to not point out another option: *WordPress*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 7:37:42 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi Kosmaton

 You could use TiddlyWiki in node.js, and export and upload tiddlers to
 your free webhosting service as static htmls, no database needed. With some
 CSS, you could design it as you wish, in a way that it doesn't look
 TiddlyWiki-ish, and there are plugins to make the layout mobile-friendly.
 The book page, home page and news page are all doable. The book page could
 be handled with details elements (HTML, not the details widget plugin) and
 transclusions. So yes, everything you mentioned can be done.

 Alternately, you could do the same with a regular standalone TW
 uploaded to your free webhosting service. Doing it as a standalone means
 the opening page would not load as quickly as a small static html page, but
 most people wouldn't notice the difference, and it would give you many more
 options for how to handle the book page, for example the table of contents
 feature in TiddlyWiki.

 What might not work, though I may be wrong, is having a user comments
 section, but then you did not mention that. I know there is at least one
 user comments plugin, but I haven't played with it.

 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:28:54 PM UTC-5 Kosmaton wrote:

> Hello Tiddly people,
>
> I'm meaning to create a new website, and I'd like to ask your opinion
> whether TiddlyWiki is the right tool (or one of the tools) for it.
>
> I used to have a pre-TW5 site on TiddlySpace back in the day. I'm
> semi-programming-and-webdesign-literate, in an ad hoc and rusty way. No
> experience with databases unfortunately, which may be relevant.
>
> The website I have in mind would be a combination of a non-fiction
> book (already written, but expandable/changeable), and an associated blog.
> The book is organized as a big tree of numbered paragraphs/sections: 1,
> 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2, 2, 2.1 etc. These sections frequently refer to one
> another; it's a hypertext in itself.
>
> * The site would mainly need to have:
>
> 1) a page that displays the book, with a Table of Contents.
>   - The TOC should be hideable as a whole.
>   - The branches of the TOC should be collapsible, i.e. click on 1 to
> show 1.1 and 1.2, click again to hide them, etc.
>   - It may be excessive to load all the text of the book (all the
> sections) into the viewport (some 70,000 words). But it would be nice if
> the reader saw a bit more than just the section they're currently reading.
> Basically a pdf-reader-like experience would be good.
>   - optional: Sections of the book may get revisions, and the visitor
> 

[tw5] Re: Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it?

[James Anderson]

I wrote a static blog exporter several years back for TW

explanation of it here: 
http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/example.html
which itself exports to:
http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-styled/index.html
and 
http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-basic/index.html

i also use it for my personal blog here http://www.phasersonkill.com/ 

The thing is pretty flexible once you have it setup, most of what you want 
could be achieved. " a sort of carousel widget with single sections from 
the book, with arrows left and right to flip through them." might require a 
little extra work though.

On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 14:45:19 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> As much as I value WordPress my personal belief is tiddlywiki would  be 
> ideal, I would start with others book style wikis to get going. 
>
> I understand the value of static websites for search may be valuable 
> however the interactive wiki offers much more. The compromise would be a 
> static site on which every page link opens  the interactive wiki, add a 
> splash screen to inform them you are loading the whole book for easy search.
>
> I started building a template to support this but not completed it yet. 
> Hopefully someone has done it and can share a revised template for its 
> export. 
> If you can serve a node implementation securely on the internet would be 
> better and it can automatically serve both static and interactive content. 
>
> By the way 70,000 words with an average length 490,000 characters, Not 
> even half a Megabyte is trivial, I have happily used 6-12Mb single file 
> wikis without any concern.
>
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 23:03:06 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> As much as I love TiddlyWiki and think it could work for your use cases, 
>> I feel I would be remiss to not point out another option: *WordPress*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 7:37:42 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kosmaton
>>>
>>> You could use TiddlyWiki in node.js, and export and upload tiddlers to 
>>> your free webhosting service as static htmls, no database needed. With some 
>>> CSS, you could design it as you wish, in a way that it doesn't look 
>>> TiddlyWiki-ish, and there are plugins to make the layout mobile-friendly. 
>>> The book page, home page and news page are all doable. The book page could 
>>> be handled with details elements (HTML, not the details widget plugin) and 
>>> transclusions. So yes, everything you mentioned can be done.
>>>
>>> Alternately, you could do the same with a regular standalone TW uploaded 
>>> to your free webhosting service. Doing it as a standalone means the opening 
>>> page would not load as quickly as a small static html page, but most people 
>>> wouldn't notice the difference, and it would give you many more options for 
>>> how to handle the book page, for example the table of contents feature in 
>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> What might not work, though I may be wrong, is having a user comments 
>>> section, but then you did not mention that. I know there is at least one 
>>> user comments plugin, but I haven't played with it.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:28:54 PM UTC-5 Kosmaton wrote:
>>>
 Hello Tiddly people,
  
 I'm meaning to create a new website, and I'd like to ask your opinion 
 whether TiddlyWiki is the right tool (or one of the tools) for it.
  
 I used to have a pre-TW5 site on TiddlySpace back in the day. I'm 
 semi-programming-and-webdesign-literate, in an ad hoc and rusty way. No 
 experience with databases unfortunately, which may be relevant.
  
 The website I have in mind would be a combination of a non-fiction book 
 (already written, but expandable/changeable), and an associated blog. The 
 book is organized as a big tree of numbered paragraphs/sections: 1, 1.1, 
 1.1.1, 1.2, 2, 2.1 etc. These sections frequently refer to one another; 
 it's a hypertext in itself.
  
 * The site would mainly need to have:
  
 1) a page that displays the book, with a Table of Contents.
   - The TOC should be hideable as a whole.
   - The branches of the TOC should be collapsible, i.e. click on 1 to 
 show 1.1 and 1.2, click again to hide them, etc.
   - It may be excessive to load all the text of the book (all the 
 sections) into the viewport (some 70,000 words). But it would be nice if 
 the reader saw a bit more than just the section they're currently reading. 
 Basically a pdf-reader-like experience would be good.
   - optional: Sections of the book may get revisions, and the visitor 
 should be able to see the revisions. (This would probably get a lot more 
 complicated if I want to allow for reordering, deletion and creation of 
 sections...)
   - The book currently exists as a LibreOffice Writer .odt file, with 
 sections actually organized as headings. Ideally I'd like to automate the 
 

[tw5] Artwork for v5.2.0

[Jeremy Ruston]

This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the next 
release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called v5.2.0, which 
requires a little explanation.

We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very important 
change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format used to 
encode tiddlers into the HTML file.

The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools that 
produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some limited 
backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will need to 
make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.

Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer ask 
"Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps us to 
make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and prominently 
as possible.

The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names now have 
no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are case-sensitive so that 
"MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a different field than "myfield" 
(just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can have fields called "⛄️".

These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be inspected here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708

So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design the 
banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening 
HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of the 
changes in the new version.

The rules for the competition are:

* The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and readable 
even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
* The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
* The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new in 
5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
* Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up in a 
previous competition
* Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions

Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:

v5.1.23 - https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
v5.1.22 - https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
v5.1.21 - https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ

If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills to 
produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case somebody 
else would like to work on the artwork.

The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more than 
one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.

Best wishes and many thanks,

Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: Unable to run TiddlyDesktop on Linux

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Maybe it is time to stop using TiddlyDesktop for now. It seems there are 
some problems with this version of it. Wait for a new version if you still 
want Tiddlydesktop.

Download empty tiddlywiki from Tiddlywiki.com and use a saver. I love 
Timimi by Riz. It is kind of a fairy godmother - save and creates backups.
It is all about setting it up right. Luckily Riz explains everything here: 
https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
I love using Tiddlywiki in the browser. Easy to make notes from stuff I 
read, saving linksand best - to drag and drop plugins and other things 
from the Tiddlywikis other people show us.

I have one of my tiddlywikies pinned in the browser - and thus always 
ready. This one is used for tips and tricks tested and written in my own 
language Danish. (After many years this is really the one TW5 I am using 
all the time). That is due to the fact, that to create it I must have 
understood something at the time of creating.

Also by now I have far more tiddlywikis than I would want to have listed in 
Tiddlydesktop. 


I really hope you get to enjoy the tiddlywiki experience soon,

Birthe


On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 10:45:11 PM UTC+2 LinuxNoob wrote:

> Yeah I'm still getting the same error message: 
>
> [9629:9629:0603/160810.303573:ERROR:sandbox.cc(376)] InitializeSandbox() 
> called with multiple threads in process gpu-process. 
>
> I figured that I can still edit the html files after creating them by 
> opening the file manually (not using TiddlyDesktop)
>
> I can use TiddlyDesktop to create the new HTML files, then shut down TD by 
> exiting the terminal, and then editing teh html file by clicking on the 
> file where it's stored.
>
> I'm wondering, besides making saving files a breeze and managing backups, 
> are there any other benefits to TiddlyDesktop? The error I'm having just 
> stops me
> from using TD to open/manage the files. I think can deal with having to 
> manually back up the files.
>
> If anyone has any questions regarding this problem I'd be happy to answer. 
> Or any possible solutions. 
>
> Thanks for continuing to look into this, I appreciate any help I can get 
> because I'd like to use TiddlyWiki for work.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:30:25 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is still giving the same exact error as before?
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 2:08:32 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I followed the instructions and I've successfully installed 
>>> libgconf2-4 but unfortunately the problem persists.
>>>
>>> Frustrating!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:37 AM Darth Mole  wrote:
>>>
 The instructions seem legit.

 Try checking out the instructions on this site as well: 
 https://itsfoss.com/unable-to-locate-package-error-ubuntu/

 itsfoss.com, imo, is a great website and I've found many of solutions 
 on there.

 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 12:19:42 AM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:

> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work. I got this message:
>
> ~& sudo apt install libconf2-4
> [sudo] password for user:
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to locate package libconf2-4
>
> This website doesn't look reputable, which is why I'm not just trying 
> out what it recommends.
> https://zoomadmin.com/HowToInstall/UbuntuPackage/libgconf-2-4
>
> But the website suggests that to install libconf2-4 I have to write:
>
> sudo apt-get update -y
> sudo apt-get install -y libgconf-2-4 
>
> Can anyone confirm that this would be the way to go?
>
> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:36:26 PM UTC-4 iamdar...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I preface what I'm about to write with: 
>>
>> I'm very new to linux as well and probably just know enough to be 
>> dangerous. However, given the wording of the error, and that you still 
>> get 
>> it after following the linked steps, I would personally try the 
>> following 
>> if I was experiencing the issue.
>>
>> With everything closed I would run the following command in your 
>> terminal:
>>
>> $sudo apt install libgconf2-4
>>
>> If it asks to install listed package with a y/n type Y and then enter 
>> to continue the install. Depending on how that goes, restart your 
>> machine 
>> and then try the ./nw launch again.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 4:44:00 PM UTC-4 LinuxNoob wrote:
>>
>>> I've followed the link and it doesn't seem to be the same issue. 
>>> Although both problems pertain to the nw file, I can still launch 
>>> TiddlyDesktop through ./nw
>>>
>>> My problem's with getting the application to work. I can create a 
>>> new wiki, but I can't get the wiki to open up using TiddlyDesktop.
>>> If I navigate to the place where I've saved the TW file then I can 
>>> use Firefox to open up 

[tw5] Re: How to build plugins

[Tristan]

Thank you, I knew about tiddlywiki.files from a past question but forgot it 
again since I could not quite figure out the documentation. I will check it 
out again and try to puzzle it out this time :)

On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 1:49:02 PM UTC saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Have a look at 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5500#discussioncomment-374512
>
> Also, if you use tiddlywiki.files to specify what to include in the 
> plugin, you don't need to worry about moving things in and out that you 
> don't want included in the plugin.
> See https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.files%20Files
> and an example at: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/files
>
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 2:17:05 PM UTC+2 Tristan wrote:
>
>> I build a few plugins for TW over the years and the process was quite 
>> manual but since I do not change much once it is running I did not bother. 
>> However one of my plugins got a few friends of mine interested and so I was 
>> looking for a way to streamline the build process. Right now this is what I 
>> do:
>>
>>1. move hidden artifact (.fslckout) from my SCM system (fossil) out 
>>of the plugin dir
>>2. run "node ./tiddlywiki.js edition/build --build index
>>3. move the artifact back into the plugin dir since it is reqired to 
>>make commits/diff/etc.
>>4. open the resulting index.html file in a browser
>>5. navigate to the plugin
>>6. click on "export to JSON"
>>7. send that file to my friends
>>
>> What I would like to have is a command that just creates the resulting 
>> JSON file without all those manual steps. Is there a TW command that just 
>> build a single plugin?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Guide to font-size in TiddlyWiki?

[PMario]

There is a good post with much better reasoning. 
https://uxengineer.com/css-specificity-avoid-important-css/

-m

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:59:29 AM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:46:42 AM UTC+2 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> If yes try adding the following css to your css tiddler.
>>
>> body, p, ol, il, strong {
>>
>> font-size: fontsize !important;
>> }
>>
>
> !important is the absolute last resort. It brutally forces styles. In the 
> long run it will cause more troubles as it solves. See 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Specificity#the_!important_exception
>
> So it needs to be used with care!
>
> -m
>
>

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