[tw] Re: Why I can't use TiddlyWiki, but wish I could

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki on eBook reader?

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
There are a couple of aspects to this.

Firstly, if you only want read-only access, I would think that several - if 
not all - of the e-book platforms would already handle this. All it requires 
is a decent browser with Javascript support.

However, if you want to be able to update and save - that is problematic. 
This is because of the security models implemented by the various browsers 
to try and prevent Javascript from having access to the local file system. 
It is very likely that the mobile browsers will not support this capability.

All I can say is - be careful what platform you choose! Something like the 
Nook is likely to be upgradable to support TW saving as it is built around 
Android. iOS devices are served by Chris's TWedit application that wraps a 
standard framework (PhoneGap) around your TW files that enables access to 
the file system.

Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: External tiddler content

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
I'll add my vote for this again!

This is especially important as your TW files get bigger and more complex. 
And it becomes critical when trying to use TW on a mobile platform where 
saving to flash memory is generally dreadfully slow.

Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: Help! with wysiwyg / EasyEdit Plugin

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
Hi Jero,

You could try Eric's QuickEdit 
<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuickEditPlugin>plugin. Though this isn't actually 
WYSIWYG, it does provide a way of easily 
remembering the markup.

I've not tried EasyEdit myself though I quick test on Pascal's 
homepage<http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html>with Firefox 4 worked fine. 
I have used his FCKEditor plugin though which 
worked fine for me last time I used it though it does require access to the 
external libraries.

Have you tried EasyEdit with a clean, empty version of TW to make sure there 
is no other plugin messing things up? Maybe there is a problem with the 
latest version of TW as the plugin doesn't seem to have been updated since 
2007.

Regards, Julian Knight.

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[tw] Re: Why I can't use TiddlyWiki, but wish I could

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
Hans, I sympathise with the Lotus Notes issue! I did extensive work with 
Notes from around 1991 to 1999 and very ocassionally need to resurrect some 
old work that I know is buried in one of the Notes databases that I have 
archived. Are you sure you need v2 though? I've been able to get at all my 
data by downloading the latest release from IBM - though I suspect that my 
oldest surviving database is v3 rather than v2. Of course, you do need a 
copy of your ID file!

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
Another alternative is to skip WIKI formatting altogether and use a visual 
editor that inserts HTML instead. I'm pretty sure there is a plugin around 
somewhere, I know I've used it in the past.

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[tw] Re: Suggestions for Action Tracking in Meeting Minutes?

2011-07-18 Thread Julian Knight
I agree that this is not a comfortable use case just now.

I tend to put actions in a simple list with a checkbox (CheckboxPlugin). 
Anything that needs more active management I would create in a new tiddler 
later on (not in the meeting) and put a link in the original list.

I do have something else for Risks and Issues though. In this case I use a 
forEachTiddler inclusion that lists the risks for a project in my weekly 
report tiddler. The end of the forEachTiddler includes a computed link - 
when you click on the link, you get a new tiddler with the appropriate 
template and the next risk/issue ID in the title.


Here is the transclusion in case it helps:
/%
!info
|Name|*Risks|
|Source||
|Version|0.0.1|
|Author|Julian Knight|
|License| |
|~CoreVersion|2.6|
|Type|transclusion|
|Description|Display a listing of risks and issues in a table|
Usage
<<<
{{{
<>
}}}
<<<
Example
<<<
{{{<>}}}
<>
<<<
!end

!show
<>
!end

%/<>

The risk template has a number of standard headings (Description, Tasks, 
etc.) that are translated into the required columns. I also have a small 
plugin that I wrote that takes a RAG (Red, Amber, Green) status and wraps it 
with a  of the appropriate background colour. All risk tiddlers are 
tagged with **Risks* (note the leading *). It's not very pretty I know and 
could do with some serious reworking but I needed it in a hurry and it 
worked well enough for the project I was on.

Regards, Julian Knight

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[tw] Re: iPad and video Woes

2011-06-20 Thread Julian Knight
Hi Alex,

Are you using TWEdit/TWmobile? If so, there is a separate group for that
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/twmobileapp

There seems to only be one video in the test file you reference. Does the 
linked video there change regularly?

I'll give it a test myself if I get a chance but one thing to try would be 
to use a copy of Chris's help TW file from TWedit as the basis for your 
file.


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[tw] Re: "shared pool" of tags for multiple TWs

2011-06-20 Thread Julian Knight
Tag hierarchies are FAR from obvious in TW ;) Many have a google for 
"tagglytagging" - it may take a while to get the concepts straight in your 
head!

>Sorry, what "normal sync process"? And define "too much" - every once in a 
while I refactor say 30% of the hierarchy, and I want all the "child" TW's 
to reflect the new structure of the "master" without having to manually keep 
them in sync as I'm doing now.

You can import any tiddler from another TW file. That would include a 
tiddler that had the name of a tag you wanted. For example, if one of your 
tags was "MyTag1", create a TW file containing a new tiddler, name the 
tiddler "MyTag1" and give it a tag of "MyTag1". Now create a new TW file, go 
to the "Backstage" and choose "Import". Point the import at your first TW 
file and press the Open button, you will get a list of the tiddlers in that 
file, choose "MyTag1". At the bottom of the import tiddler list, you will 
see an option checkbox called "Keep these tiddlers linked to this server so 
that you can synchronise subsequent changes" this is ticked by default. OK 
so save the new TW file and go back to the original file, change the 
"NewTag1" tiddler and give it a description. Switch back to the new file, go 
to Backstage again and choose "Sync". This is the "normal sync process" I 
mentioned. You should see the NewTag1 tiddler marked as updated so resync 
and the descriptive text should appear in your new TW file.

Having said all that, I don't think this will work for you as you are 
regularly reworking the hierarchy - you'd have to manually delete the old 
hierarchy from the child TW files.

> For future googlers - http://tiddlytools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPluginInfo 

Yep, you got it ;) Never can keep all these plugins straight myself! And 
Eric is far too productive for me to remember all his plugins let alone 
everyone else's as well!

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[tw] Re: "shared pool" of tags for multiple TWs

2011-06-20 Thread Julian Knight
I think you may be trying to push TW a little too far, it is really meant to 
be a straight-forward information management tool & trying to get it to 
kludge multiple taxonomies is rather a stretch.

If you could cope with an online tool rather than offline, Wordpress might 
be a better fit.

Otherwise, maybe pressing a custom field into use as an alternative taxonomy 
would be better?

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[tw] Re: CheckBoxPlugin two boxes √ if fieldvalue=true and √ if fieldvalue=false

2011-06-20 Thread Julian Knight
Really it would be better for it to display RADIO buttons rather than a pair 
of checkboxes as this would be the expected user interface. Two checkboxes 
mutually exclusive would be confusing to many users.

What I'd like to see is a generic INPUT macro that could handle ANY input 
type ;)
If it had the ability to tie the input to custom FIELDs (and preferably the 
tag list, maybe the title as well, even the body!) we would have a generic 
form interface for TW. I did start to work on this a while back but quickly 
ran out of time before I got very far.


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[tw] Re: "shared pool" of tags for multiple TWs

2011-06-16 Thread Julian Knight
How about having a set of tiddlers named after the tag and tagged with the 
name:

Tiddler Title = tag1
Tags= tag1 excludeLists

etc.

As each tiddler is tagged with excludeLists, it would prevent them clogging 
up the general lists but are still easily available from the tag lists in 
other tiddlers. Each of these tag tiddlers would contain their own 
description of course.

You could then either just use the normal import tiddlers tools to import 
the tag tiddlers from a central, common source. This would work if the list 
doesn't change too much (since adding/deleting would be manual) updates 
would be handled via the normal sync process.

Alternatively, you could use Erics external tiddler tools (see 
tiddlytools.com) keeping all of the common tags in a TW file that all other 
files reference, loading the tag tiddlers on startup. Then you just have to 
sync the common tags TW file between users computers - you might use Dropbox 
or some other mechanism for this.


Anyway, a few ideas to try.
Regards, Julian Knight

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

2011-06-09 Thread Julian Knight
OK, final version:


* List item 1 
Code

* List item 2 

Does exactly what you want without any additional styling needed.

BTW, switch to the NEW Google Groups interface to get proper formatting that 
actually works.

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[tw] Re: Screwy Tab CSS

2011-06-07 Thread Julian Knight
You might also experiment with the z-order so that you force any overflows 
to disappear behind other elements.

These are the reasons that I disagree with the folks who insist that only 
DIV based layouts are valid. It is hard and often impossible to make a fully 
robust DIV based layout whereas table based layouts are very easy to make 
robust for a very wide range of window and text sizes.

Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

2011-06-07 Thread Julian Knight
Sorry, posted too quick. That would of course change all code inserted in 
level 1 lists. If this is not acceptable, you need to attach a custom class 
or custom css.

Using:

* List item 1
* List item 2 - Code:
{{classname{
text to be formatted
}}}
* List item 13

With CSS something like:

.classname{
white-space:nowrap;
font-family: monospace;
font-size: 1.2em;
line-height: 1.4em;
margin-left: 0.5em;
overflow: auto;
padding: 0.5em;
}

should do the job

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

2011-06-07 Thread Julian Knight
Again, if you use something like Firebug, you will be able to see the "path" 
to any element. Once you have that, you can style it.

Your example gives HTML of:


   
  
 
 Foo bar 

 
   


So something like:

.viewer ul dl dd code {
margin-left: 0.5em;
}

Might do the job. Sorry can't test that at the moment though.

Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: Best way to do something when Edit button clicked?

2011-05-04 Thread Julian Knight
Actually I think that I will trap the onfocus event for the default text 
input box - the title.

When that field gets the focus I will run a function to ensure that only the 
elements I want are shown and that the textarea size matches the current 
window size (minus any other screen elements).

I may get creative and try to trap zoom's as well if I can so that the 
keyboard extensions stay put but I'm not sure if that can be detected in 
Mobile Safari.

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[tw] Re: Best way to do something when Edit button clicked?

2011-05-03 Thread Julian Knight
Thanks Wolfgang, that is helpful for the expanding/overlapping menu. 
Actually, to simplify things even further I think that I will make the menus 
into simple tiddler displays. Then I don't need to think about overlaps and 
floats and the complexities of sliders at all. This works especially well 
with the tabbed view (see the "full" version of my template rather than the 
"empty" version.

However, that is not quite what I want to achieve. What I really want is to 
ONLY have the edited tiddler showing, everything else should be hidden 
including any other tiddlers in view, menus, headings, etc.

The reason for this is so that the textarea pretty much fills the (small) 
screen and so that there is no scrolling of the surrounding window, the only 
scrolling would be within the textarea. If you've not used TW on the 
iPhone/iPad you may not appreciate the complexities of trying to deal with 
both the web page and the text area being scrollable when using a touch 
interface. Hiding all of the extraneous stuff should make the experience 
much nicer. It would also allow me to have a toolbar fixed just above the 
virtual keyboard containing some of the characters that are harder to enter 
because they are not natively on the main keyboard display (you have to 
press another 1 or 2 keys to get to things like #)

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[tw] Hiding display elements when editing?

2011-04-28 Thread Julian Knight
Hi all,

I'm a little (a lot actually) rusty with my TW and JavaScript programming 
and I'm wondering if anyone can help me get started with this issue.

I'm wanting to update my mobile version of 
TW<http://www.box.net/shared/ojkt3uuga4>for use with 
TWmobile/TWedit <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/twmobileapp>.

When running on a restricted screen, the default behaviour of TW - to 
display the edit textarea in-line is not very helpful as scrolling becomes 
difficult. To get round this, I'd like to "focus" in on the single tiddler 
being edited and only show the textarea with the associated title, tags and 
command buttons.

The easiest way to do this would seem to me to be to HIDE all of the other 
display elements, this is fairly easy to do with JavaScript, especially with 
a little JQuery magic.

But to achieve this, I need to trigger some code on certain events:

   1. When a tiddler is edited
   2. When the edit is saved
   3. When the edit is cancelled

For 1 I would hide everything except the absolutely required elements & for 
2 & 3 turn them back on.

My question is - what is the best method to do the triggers?

Any help gratefully received,

Regards, Julian Knight.

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[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-24 Thread Julian Knight
Not sure what is happening then because it worked fine for me (I did put in 
the missing }) when I moved the 

[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-21 Thread Julian Knight
Hi, 

I don't think that your script is running at all. I tried a simple alert in 
the script and nothing happened.

Apart from a missing closing }, you need the inline script plugin and to 
move the script tags outside the html tags, the code then works fine. I 
guess that TW is set not to trigger inline scripts inside the inline html - 
not an unreasonable thing really.

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Re: [tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-21 Thread Julian Knight
Good point about history. That is one thing TW is not good at.

I guess the community needs to chip in and say whether it is more important 
for the site to be a TW showcase or to preserve history?

My own vote would be on the showcase thing.

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[tw] Re: Putting info on formatting in edit mode

2011-01-21 Thread Julian Knight
Oops, looks like you've done a better job than me while I was typing.

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[tw] Re: Putting info on formatting in edit mode

2011-01-21 Thread Julian Knight
Hmm, it *is* well hidden isn't it!

To be honest, it looks a bit like a fairly straight-forward slider inclusion 
(I don't suppose it actually is though since it pops over other content). 
You can simulate something similar by creating a formatting help tiddler and 
then linking to it in the sidebar using the slider macro. The clever bit is 
to get some suitable CSS to make it pop-over other content. You need to 
create some content that has a fixed location in relation to the calling 
button and is "higher" in z-order than the rest of the page.

I'm not sure where he is inserting the page element, I'm guessing that he 
has his own function in a tiddler tagged with systemConfig to make it run on 
startup. It may even be some jQuery magic as jQuery makes these kind of 
things pretty easy.

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[tw] Re: run macro when TW loads?

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you mark a tiddler with the systemConfig tag, 
doesn't that make it always run at load?

Just create a tiddler with an alert() and tag it then reload to check.

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[tw] Re: Javascript to hide HTML lines containing an empty cell

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Hi, not in a position to test code right now but I can see that the script 
is a little too simple.

It would be better if you could put ID's on all of the rows and cells for a 
start, preferably numbered so row R01 would contain cells R01C01 and R01C02 
etc. That way you can easily id the row from a cell. Otherwise you will need 
to mess with XPaths which is probably more efficient but rather harder to 
get your head around.

Then for each row, you will need to check if each of the cells is empty - in 
your example, of course, you'd only need to check the second cell on each 
row as the first is never empty. Keep count of the empty rows and if the 
final count is the same as the total number of rows, you can remove the 
table, otherwise remove the empty rows.

Also, the code you have there will operate on EVERY table in your TW file, 
not something you really want. ID your tables or use a more complex search 
(using JQuery is easier for such things) to ensure that you have got the 
right table. Remember that any Javascript will operate on the whole document 
unless you tell it otherwise.

Regards, Julian Knight

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[tw] Re: Proposal: Move http://tiddlywiki.org to TiddlySpace

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
I've always found it rather odd too. It should be a showcase and example of 
excellence for TW.

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Re: [tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Maybe it's use in BT could be highlighted. I'm sure there must be some 
references.

Perhaps we could all start adding to a references section at the end of the 
article - or maybe in the comments page for now so that things can be kept 
tidy?

We should also link back to the TW Google groups and to related software 
such as the TWMobile/TWEdit iOS apps.

I'll take a look as well and see if there is anything that I can add or 
tidy.

Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: Which phones does TW work well on

2011-01-13 Thread Julian Knight
There are wrapper apps for iPhone and iPad (TWMobile or TWedit - both are 
really the same app, see the Google 
Group<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/twmobileapp>
).

The phone screens are really very small so considerable changes to the 
visual design are needed. I've recently starting working on a template for 
use on the iPad <http://www.box.net/shared/ojkt3uuga4>. It is a work in 
progress and may well work fine on other mobile platforms. Feedback is 
welcome.

I've used some pretty big, complex TW files on the iPad and they work fine 
though keyboard limitations are somewhat annoying (I've suggested a tweak 
for the TWMobile author & I'm looking at workarounds using one of the 
textarea edit toolbar plugins that exist). The interaction with the edit box 
also gets slightly frustrating when editing lots of text in a tiddler (you 
have to use a 2-finger drag to scrol the textarea, I could do with a 
scroller widget for the toolbar).

Clearly editing on a phone is going to be a rather limited affair.

Regards, Julian Knight
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[tw] Re: Enable changes on local network?

2011-01-11 Thread Julian Knight
Hi Julien,

TW is designed to be accessed as a LOCAL file rather than a web served file 
and was designed so that, when "published" to the web, it defaults to 
read-only. This can certainly be overcome but I think that you would need 
access to PHP on the web server. I might be wrong though - I'm sure that 
someone more familiar with the various server solutions will chip-in before 
long.

As long as you have access to the file itself over the LAN - e.g. via a 
folder share - you can certainly use it just as you do on the desktop.

Regards, Julian Knight
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