Re: [tw5] Re: Stroll - Idea Stew

[William Dalton]

Thank you!

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 4:41 PM Donald Coates  wrote:

> So it sounds like you are trying to do something on all new tiddlers?  If
> so maybe looking into templates would be start:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#TemplateTiddlers
>
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:06:56 PM UTC-4 W.D. wrote:
>
>> Hello Birthe and thank you.
>>
>> Attached are screenshots. The default appears to be GettingStarted.
>> Editing the shadow and placing the snippet at the end of the text seems to
>> only alter this tiddler, not new ones?
>>
>> Also tried going to "$:/DefaultTiddlers" and editing the same tiddler
>> without success. I'm very new to this environment, unfortunately.
>>
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 1:46:55 AM UTC-7 strikke...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Open the control panel from the little wheel icon in the sidebar. Go to
>>> the info tab (The first tab to the left).
>>>
>>> That is where you give your wiki the title, the subtitle, your username
>>> and so on. But you are also asked to name default tiddler or tiddlers. That
>>> will be the tiddlers you see when opening your tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> If you do it in Davids https://giffmex.org/stroll/goodies.html
>>>  you will see that it is the
>>> tiddler named Get the goodies, hardly a surprise. The snippet mentioned is
>>> a copy of what is in this tiddler.
>>>
>>> Now go to your own wiki, open control panel, what is the name of your
>>> default tiddler?  Open that tiddler for editing, copy the snippet and
>>> insert in that tiddler. Save and close the tiddler. When your wiki is
>>> saved, you can refresh it in the browser to see your default tiddler
>>> starting up.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

TonyM
When you reload the browser page, then click on the Review Tab under the 
Cardo Tab on the side menu, does the reminder not show up? It does for me 
under the situation where I am not logged in, and where I am logged in. 
However, when I log in as speckledcomparison, the reminder does not show. 
Did you ever see the reminder at least once, and did you perhaps hit close? 

After changing the name of the Reminder (fyi, I never leave the default 
name, it won't display in the Dashboards with the default name) I can no 
longer get it to display. Very weird.

Now I can see it in the Dashboard, however.

Also, I haven't said this before, but in the Dashboards, in the Focus Drop 
down, make sure you actively choose on of those options. If you choose All, 
do you still not see the items you have made? I don't know about the 
reminders, will have to look into it with the author if I can't figure it 
out.

At a guess, since Cardo isn't really designed for multi user, it may just 
have a simple mechanism to check if it has been seen.

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 7:10:15 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> William,
>
> I don't recall "Where can I see this?"" or "Washing the Dishes", I 
> continue to login only as speckledcomparison.
>
> I am happy to jump in the deep end and help you with this, I am just 
> surprised Cardio can accommodate multiple users.  I am not yet confident 
> this is the case.
>
> The truth is if users can *only save their own tiddlers*, and they are 
> somewhat sandboxed from other users, then this may be a workable solution. 
> Adding local storage to retain user settings, that not saved back to the 
> server would also make it look as if the user has the environment to 
> themself.
>
> I am keen not only to help you get a multi-user cardio, but I would like 
> to design a "Design Pattern" to apply to TiddlyWiki to support any 
> multi-user solution. 
> I am already working with a few people on something similar and have 80% 
> developed an in wiki user control process, and hope to build a check-in and 
> out process for single file wikis allowing controlled "Serial Editor" 
> access.
>
> Thanks for sharing your idea.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 7:49:47 AM UTC+10, William Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> TonyM
>>
>> I assume you were the one that created a reminder that said "Were can I 
>> see this?"
>>
>> Reminders pop up in Cardo when you clickonthe Review tab under the Cardo 
>> side tab. If you snooze the reminder, the it will reappear after the next 
>> time you reload the page and click on Review.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

TonyM

I assume you were the one that created a reminder that said "Were can I see 
this?"

Reminders pop up in Cardo when you clickonthe Review tab under the Cardo 
side tab. If you snooze the reminder, the it will reappear after the next 
time you reload the page and click on Review.

Hope that helps.

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Re: [tw5] Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

Thanks Jan.

This is partly an experiment to see how well this runs, and how it scales 
past 2 people with a lot of trust. So I don't have much of an explanation 
ready for any of this. I am just testing it out. There are no protections 
in place currently, so break it in all the ways possible. Maybe it can help 
inform some directions for the node portion TW to make the simplest changes 
necessary to allow multi user environments.

Some sort of primitive access control to be used by plugins, taking the 
burden off of the TW devs, maybe? Cardo is a good example of a plugin that 
works equally well in both single and multi user mode, but multi user could 
seriously be out of scope of the project.

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:16:43 PM UTC-4, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello William. 
>
> Very cool!
> In Fact it is the first multi-user-node.js-Wiki I could test on the web. I 
> would love to have more multiple-user demo scenarios with explanation. 
>
> Yours Jan
>
> Am 23.06.2019 um 06:26 schrieb William Armstrong:
>
>
>
> Hello folks, thanks for all the tips and tricks I have been browsing 
> through for the last 2 months. 
>
> I have setup a basic TW5 node server, and installed the Cardo.json from 
> cardo.wiki. Adding the credentials option to the node server and readers 
> and writers permisions, I can get effectively multi user logins. I am using 
> HTTPAuth as well from nginx. (Webinoly makesit extremely simple to setup a 
> proxied app, including TW5. I will have to write up a tutorial about that.)
>
> Now, this setup authenticates the user, but what about conveniences. Cardo 
> has these great overall views that are built-in for each person, so 
> normally I would just make that the default tiddler and move on. But that 
> doesn't work in a muli-user environment. My solution is to use the [[All 
> Items]] list as the default,and the user can go from there. (If anyone 
> knows of a way the Author tag can be automatically substituted, I would 
> love to know.)
>
> Now, this is a small wiki with just me and my family. We have only used it 
> for a night or so, so no guarantees. I thought it is an interesting project 
> to see how far TW5 can go towards a multi-user environment with very little 
> modification.
>
> Now for the fun part. Want to test it out? 
>
> https://gtdwiki.ml/login-basic/
>
> Use on of these User names. Use password as the password. And play for a 
> bit. Lets see what issues TW still has that make it not very good for 
> multi-user use cases.Keep in mind no data is safe on this instance, it is a 
> cheap 512MB hoster, and doesn't have a lot of space. I reserve the right to 
> delete this at any time if there are bad actors. The goal is to find issues 
> with it, find gotchas, and generally as a thank you to the community and 
> Cardo for coming so close. Thanks, William.
>
>- samplesnort <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sample.snort> 
>- razulispotty 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=razuli.spotty> 
>- processescoat 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=processes.coat> 
>- laplandvoiceless 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=lapland.voiceless> 
>- sophiehitting 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sophie.hitting> 
>- inveriedayroom 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=inverie.dayroom> 
>- unstampedgauze 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=unstamped.gauze> 
>- againstpress 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=against.press> 
>- sweepirregular 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sweep.irregular> 
>- speckledcomparison 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=speckled.comparison> 
>- encodingblubber 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=encoding.blubber> 
>- facilitieswegs 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=facilities.wegs> 
>- carnotbrazos 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=carnot.brazos> 
>- plugbypants <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=plugby.pants> 
>- servorand <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=servo.rand> 
>- pythonflock <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=python.flock> 
>- coolbody <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=cool.body> 
>- boncretesmokey 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=boncrete.smokey> 
>- flackboardcollop 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=flackboard.collop> 
>- footnotecairn 
><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=footnote.cairn> 
>- rustmourn <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=rust.mourn&g

[tw5] Re: Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

On first thought, I would ensure a "backup" with a git script with a new 
commit each hour. I could piece together something that worked. This would 
give some security against bad actors.

I wonder if anyone has mad a plugin which functions as a "Trash" can for 
deleted Tiddlers. Essentially deleted Tiddlers under node would be move 
into a folder, rather than actually be deleted. They would then be pruned 
on a regular basis.

About your idea for an overlay, I would think setting some fields in the 
User Tiddler would be more persistent? And would allow settings to move 
between browsers and devices.

Though it could make sense to add some state that is used for devices. One 
example is the Cardo theme doesn't work well on phones, but works well on 
Desktop. Some may want to change the theme on phone, instead of the Desktop.

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 8:04:02 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post script
>
> You did explain it much better.
>
> I was not concerned about bad actors either. I just want to ensure 
> integrity, consistency etc the accidental damage is the most likely problem.
>
> It sounds like cardio may have already demonstrated a multiuser 
> architecture, this can now be enhanced by using minimal  local storage to 
> keep track of each browser session. In effect managing user differences in 
> core settings with a local storage overlay.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

@ TonyM

You are correct. Bad actors are a problem. Thankfully, most people aren't 
bad actors. Especially when to gain access to write the files requires 
authentication. (Remember this is a testbed, it should not contain any 
valuable data.)

Ok, I am not explaining myself very well. In Options under Default 
Tiddlers, what can I put there that would evaluate as the Username for 
Signing Edits. 

You signed in as speckledcomparison, so I would want any time you logged in 
for the Default Tiddlers section to act as if the only entry in there is 
speckledcomparison. And when someone else signs in, it behaves as if the 
only entry is their Username for Signing Edits. All those options you are 
giving me are already built into the Cardo plugin, actually tailored for 
this use case.

When you opened the Wiki, that Dashboard is created by the Cardo plugin. 
There is one just like it for each of the logged in users, and people for 
that matter. To see that view, in the sidebar, underneath Cardo tab there 
are a New, Review and Maintanence tab. Click on maintenance the first time 
you log in, and click Create "My Dasboard". This will open up a new 
Tiddler, with the current logged in user filled in as the name. Just click 
save, and it automatically creates that Dashboard view from All Items, 
limited to those things directly related with your user.

If you then put your Username in the Default Tiddler's spot, you have that 
view open when you open the tiddler. I want that experience for every user 
that logs in. The All Items view that is currently in their is a compromise.

Did I maybe explain it better? If not let me know, and I will try from a 
different angle. Thank you for taking the time to test this, and help me 
out.

William.

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:52:56 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> William,
> I logged in as 
>
>- speckledcomparison
>
> If what I did wiped anyone else's tidddlers while I was there this would 
> fail to be a working solution would it not?
>
> Not withstanding the above. What if the only tiddlers it saves are those I 
> create and modify, and you constrain me in what ones I create so I do not 
> save over someone else? That is no user saves any tiddlers other than their 
> own.
>
> For you problem have you looked at using a filter something like this;
>
> "[all[tiddlers]creator[speckledcomparison]] 
> [all[tiddlers]modifier[speckledcomparison]]"
>
> Or
>
> "[all[tiddlers]creator{$:/status/UserName}] 
> [all[tiddlers]modifier{$:/status/UserName}]"
>
> So to open a tiddler based on a user name you can use the content of 
> {{$:/status/UserName}}
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 6:30:21 PM UTC+10, William Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> So the short a 
>>
> nswer is, nothing prevents you from overwriting someone else. This is just 
>> TiddlyWiki 5 and Cardo. The point is to see if it is usable for a larger 
>> use case than 2 people. In other words, for this use case, a Getting Things 
>> Done project management specific wiki, how important is it to have those 
>> controls. It is mainly useful for the Project management, and maybe less 
>> useful for References, but we can find out, with test and highjinxs.
>>
>> The way Cardo works, it maps the People overview to the users name. So 
>> when you open up, if you logged in as TonyM, the MyDashboard default to a 
>> Tiddler with that name. It then gives a view over anything related to you 
>> project wise. There is also an All Items view that lists all projects and 
>> their related. I am using All Items as the default tiddler to open.
>>
>> If there is something I can place there that returns the name of the 
>> user, and picks that tiddler with the My Dashboard, that would allow each 
>> authenticated user to start with the items most important to them.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:06:39 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> WIlliam,
>>>
>>> This is a promising example. WHat I am not sure about is how when I make 
>>> a change and it is saved I am not overwriting someone else?
>>>
>>> I just created New Tiddler and New Tiddler 1
>>>
>>> I am not fully sure of your question above. But you know that 
>>> $:/status/UserName 
>>> stores the current user and is applied to the hidden fields 
>>> *creator*: 
>>> *The name of the person who created a tiddler*
>>> and
>>> *modifier*: 
>>> *The tiddler title associated with the person who last modified a 
>>> tiddler*
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>> On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:26:19 PM UTC+10, William Armstrong wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hel

[tw5] Re: Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

So the short answer is, nothing prevents you from overwriting someone else. 
This is just TiddlyWiki 5 and Cardo. The point is to see if it is usable 
for a larger use case than 2 people. In other words, for this use case, a 
Getting Things Done project management specific wiki, how important is it 
to have those controls. It is mainly useful for the Project management, and 
maybe less useful for References, but we can find out, with test and 
highjinxs.

The way Cardo works, it maps the People overview to the users name. So when 
you open up, if you logged in as TonyM, the MyDashboard default to a 
Tiddler with that name. It then gives a view over anything related to you 
project wise. There is also an All Items view that lists all projects and 
their related. I am using All Items as the default tiddler to open.

If there is something I can place there that returns the name of the user, 
and picks that tiddler with the My Dashboard, that would allow each 
authenticated user to start with the items most important to them.

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:06:39 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> WIlliam,
>
> This is a promising example. WHat I am not sure about is how when I make a 
> change and it is saved I am not overwriting someone else?
>
> I just created New Tiddler and New Tiddler 1
>
> I am not fully sure of your question above. But you know that 
> $:/status/UserName 
> stores the current user and is applied to the hidden fields 
> *creator*: 
> *The name of the person who created a tiddler*
> and
> *modifier*: 
> *The tiddler title associated with the person who last modified a tiddler*
> Regards
> Tony
> On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:26:19 PM UTC+10, William Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> Hello folks, thanks for all the tips and tricks I have been browsing 
>> through for the last 2 months.
>>
>> I have setup a basic TW5 node server, and installed the Cardo.json from 
>> cardo.wiki. Adding the credentials option to the node server and readers 
>> and writers permisions, I can get effectively multi user logins. I am using 
>> HTTPAuth as well from nginx. (Webinoly makesit extremely simple to setup a 
>> proxied app, including TW5. I will have to write up a tutorial about that.)
>>
>> Now, this setup authenticates the user, but what about conveniences. 
>> Cardo has these great overall views that are built-in for each person, so 
>> normally I would just make that the default tiddler and move on. But that 
>> doesn't work in a muli-user environment. My solution is to use the [[All 
>> Items]] list as the default,and the user can go from there. (If anyone 
>> knows of a way the Author tag can be automatically substituted, I would 
>> love to know.)
>>
>> Now, this is a small wiki with just me and my family. We have only used 
>> it for a night or so, so no guarantees. I thought it is an interesting 
>> project to see how far TW5 can go towards a multi-user environment with 
>> very little modification.
>>
>> Now for the fun part. Want to test it out? 
>>
>> https://gtdwiki.ml/ <https://gtdwiki.ml/login-basic>
>>
>> Use on of these User names. Use password as the password. And play for a 
>> bit. Lets see what issues TW still has that make it not very good for 
>> multi-user use cases.Keep in mind no data is safe on this instance, it is a 
>> cheap 512MB hoster, and doesn't have a lot of space. I reserve the right to 
>> delete this at any time if there are bad actors. The goal is to find issues 
>> with it, find gotchas, and generally as a thank you to the community and 
>> Cardo for coming so close. Thanks, William.
>>
>>- samplesnort <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sample.snort>
>>- razulispotty 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=razuli.spotty>
>>- processescoat 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=processes.coat>
>>- laplandvoiceless 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=lapland.voiceless>
>>- sophiehitting 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sophie.hitting>
>>- inveriedayroom 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=inverie.dayroom>
>>- unstampedgauze 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=unstamped.gauze>
>>- againstpress 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=against.press>
>>- sweepirregular 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sweep.irregular>
>>- speckledcomparison 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=speckled.comparison>
>>- encodingblubber 
>><https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp

[tw5] Re: Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

It would be nice if different users could use different themes. 

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:00:58 AM UTC-4, William Armstrong wrote:
>
> You have to clear some site cookies to logout. Or use incognito mode in 
> your browser. Edge I was able purge the correct data. I am not finding it 
> right away in Vivaldi(Chrome essentially). Incognito mode allows you to be 
> logged in in multiple windows however.
>
> I have not tested Firefox. Changes you make in one instance are almost 
> immediately seen in the other instance.
>
> What is interesting is if you are logged into two browsers at the same 
> time, the new tiddlers don't update. So new People don't show up until you 
> refresh the page. Something to keep in mind when switch between devices, I 
> guess.
>
> On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:33:32 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao William
>>
>> When you login you can save a Tiddler. Close the session and find it 
>> again on re-opening the wiki? Yes? In other words its created on the server?
>>
>> But how do you not just close, but log-out? So you could login again with 
>> a different account? Is there a way to do that? I'm not clear.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>> William Armstrong wrote
>>>
>>> Have fun, and try to break it. ( That is my favorite part of testing new 
>>> things.)
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

You have to clear some site cookies to logout. Or use incognito mode in 
your browser. Edge I was able purge the correct data. I am not finding it 
right away in Vivaldi(Chrome essentially). Incognito mode allows you to be 
logged in in multiple windows however.

I have not tested Firefox. Changes you make in one instance are almost 
immediately seen in the other instance.

What is interesting is if you are logged into two browsers at the same 
time, the new tiddlers don't update. So new People don't show up until you 
refresh the page. Something to keep in mind when switch between devices, I 
guess.

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 2:33:32 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao William
>
> When you login you can save a Tiddler. Close the session and find it again 
> on re-opening the wiki? Yes? In other words its created on the server?
>
> But how do you not just close, but log-out? So you could login again with 
> a different account? Is there a way to do that? I'm not clear.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> William Armstrong wrote
>>
>> Have fun, and try to break it. ( That is my favorite part of testing new 
>> things.)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

You are correct. Apparently, the slash after the link causes problems. I 
fixed it in the original post, and here it is again for all those looking 
at this through email.

https://gtdwiki.ml/login-basic

Let me know if you have more issues. Also, pay no attention to the link to 
the unfinished WP site in the side bar. :)

Have fun, and try to break it. ( That is my favorite part of testing new 
things.)

On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 1:58:22 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao William
>
> https://gtdwiki.ml/login-basic/ 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgtdwiki.ml%2Flogin-basic%2F=D=1=AFQjCNEZgZ4-05ty6RDdfrWosrVrPIQplg>
>
> Currently that gives a 404 error for me.
>
> Best
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Cardo.wiki with node TW5 equal multiuser GTD. Test it out.

[William Armstrong]

Hello folks, thanks for all the tips and tricks I have been browsing 
through for the last 2 months.

I have setup a basic TW5 node server, and installed the Cardo.json from 
cardo.wiki. Adding the credentials option to the node server and readers 
and writers permisions, I can get effectively multi user logins. I am using 
HTTPAuth as well from nginx. (Webinoly makesit extremely simple to setup a 
proxied app, including TW5. I will have to write up a tutorial about that.)

Now, this setup authenticates the user, but what about conveniences. Cardo 
has these great overall views that are built-in for each person, so 
normally I would just make that the default tiddler and move on. But that 
doesn't work in a muli-user environment. My solution is to use the [[All 
Items]] list as the default,and the user can go from there. (If anyone 
knows of a way the Author tag can be automatically substituted, I would 
love to know.)

Now, this is a small wiki with just me and my family. We have only used it 
for a night or so, so no guarantees. I thought it is an interesting project 
to see how far TW5 can go towards a multi-user environment with very little 
modification.

Now for the fun part. Want to test it out? 

https://gtdwiki.ml/login-basic/

Use on of these User names. Use password as the password. And play for a 
bit. Lets see what issues TW still has that make it not very good for 
multi-user use cases.Keep in mind no data is safe on this instance, it is a 
cheap 512MB hoster, and doesn't have a lot of space. I reserve the right to 
delete this at any time if there are bad actors. The goal is to find issues 
with it, find gotchas, and generally as a thank you to the community and 
Cardo for coming so close. Thanks, William.

   - samplesnort <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sample.snort>
   - razulispotty <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=razuli.spotty>
   - processescoat 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=processes.coat>
   - laplandvoiceless 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=lapland.voiceless>
   - sophiehitting 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sophie.hitting>
   - inveriedayroom 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=inverie.dayroom>
   - unstampedgauze 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=unstamped.gauze>
   - againstpress <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=against.press>
   - sweepirregular 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=sweep.irregular>
   - speckledcomparison 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=speckled.comparison>
   - encodingblubber 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=encoding.blubber>
   - facilitieswegs 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=facilities.wegs>
   - carnotbrazos <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=carnot.brazos>
   - plugbypants <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=plugby.pants>
   - servorand <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=servo.rand>
   - pythonflock <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=python.flock>
   - coolbody <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=cool.body>
   - boncretesmokey 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=boncrete.smokey>
   - flackboardcollop 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=flackboard.collop>
   - footnotecairn 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=footnote.cairn>
   - rustmourn <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=rust.mourn>
   - populacemendelevium 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=populace.mendelevium>
   - viawiping <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=via.wiping>
   - crossbredtall 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=crossbred.tall>
   - worstyankie <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=worst.yankie>
   - arabiangrinning 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=arabian.grinning>
   - fastzenyatta <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=fast.zenyatta>
   - imitationpromise 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=imitation.promise>
   - goldmedalmortar 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=goldmedal.mortar>
   - parppresto <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=parp.presto>
   - trumpetseaborgium 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=trumpet.seaborgium>
   - cogsmagwitch <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=cogs.magwitch>
   - tricepsgather 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=triceps.gather>
   - billiardsvantage 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=billiards.vantage>
   - higdenblackie 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=higden.blackie>
   - shakableflop <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=shakable.flop>
   - etherealcoyote 
   <https://jimpix.co.uk/words/username.asp?u=ethereal.coyote>
   - ipadsame <https://jimpix.co.uk

Re: [tw] [Node.js] Unable to update past 5.1.13

[William RENOU]

I created a new TW and progressively copied my tiddlers over to it, first 
installing the same plugins I had then moving standard tiddlers, macro / 
template tiddlers and checking each time if it broke it. Since it still 
worked fine I used your method (because I really don't like fixing 
something and not understanding how I did it), plugin to blame was a 
language plugin. I had forgotten about this one & feel kind of dumb not to 
have checked this one.

Le mercredi 22 novembre 2017 10:27:48 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> Hi William
>
> The first error looks as though TiddlyWiki is trying to use the PUT saver 
> to save changes. That suggests that maybe you have not got the required 
> tiddlyweb plugin loaded. The plugins you’re using should be entered into 
> the tiddlywiki.info file for your wiki:
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20a%20plugin%20from%20the%20plugin%20library
>
> The second error looks like maybe you’ve got a 5.1.13 plugin loaded as a 
> literal tiddler. It won’t get updated when you upgrade because it’s a 
> literal tiddler rather than a reference in the tiddlywiki.info file.
>
> If the system will let you, you can use the $:/AdvancedSearch “Filter" tag 
> to help track this down:
>
> First, the following filter expression will list all of the different 
> values for the “version” field of the loaded plugins:
>
> [all[tiddlers]each[version]get[version]]
>
> If you see “5.1.13” listed then you can identify the specific rogue plugin 
> with the following expression that lists all of the plugins with the 
> “version” field set to 5.1.13:
>
> [all[tiddlers]version[5.1.13]]
>
> If none of that helps then I think you might be best starting with a new 
> wiki and progressively bringing your content over until you can see what 
> breaks.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 22 Nov 2017, at 03:24, William RENOU <wilr...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> Hello. 
> I was running on 5.1.13 and decided to upgrade my server to 5.1.15 after 
> testing it for a bit. Unfortunately since the upgrade it has become mostly 
> unusable. I can open my TW fine but when used, most functions return a 
> javascript error. Even only opening the TW yield errors. 
>
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 
> OPTIONS http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:28
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
>
> $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 HEAD http://host/path/ 404 (Not 
> Found)
>  exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
>  PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:39
>  exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
>  (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
>  (anonymous) @ (index):24882
>  $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
>  $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
>  SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
>  SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
>  exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
>  $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26200
>  $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
>  $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
>  _boot @ (index):26207
>  (anonymous) @ (index):26217
>
> I first thought plugins were to blame so I disabled them, no effect. I 
> then downgraded to .14 and again to .13 since .14 was showing the exact 
> same symptoms. Returning to .13 showed my TW back to functionnal status.
> As a test I tried to create a new TW under .15 and it is working fine, 
> meaning my issue was a configuration issue on my TW folders. The error 
> typically triggers when I open the Recent Sidebar tab.
> Most errors I get during use are like this one :
> (index):24287 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'day' of undefined
> $tw.utils.error @ (ind

[tw] [Node.js] Unable to update past 5.1.13

[William RENOU]

Hello. 
I was running on 5.1.13 and decided to upgrade my server to 5.1.15 after 
testing it for a bit. Unfortunately since the upgrade it has become mostly 
unusable. I can open my TW fine but when used, most functions return a 
javascript error. Even only opening the TW yield errors. 

$:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 
OPTIONS http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
 exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
 PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:28
 exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
 (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
 (anonymous) @ (index):24882
 $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
 $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
 SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
 SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
 exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
 $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
 $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
 $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
 $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
 (anonymous) @ (index):26200
 $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
 $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
 _boot @ (index):26207
 (anonymous) @ (index):26217

$:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65 HEAD http://host/path/ 404 (Not Found)
 exports.httpRequest @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/http.js:65
 PutSaver @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:39
 exports.create @ $:/core/modules/savers/put.js:108
 (anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:122
 (anonymous) @ (index):24882
 $tw.utils.each @ (index):24213
 $tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType @ (index):24881
 SaverHandler.initSavers @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:120
 SaverHandler @ $:/core/modules/saver-handler.js:30
 exports.startup @ $:/core/modules/startup.js:115
 $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26094
 $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
 $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask @ (index):26098
 $tw.boot.startup @ (index):26051
 (anonymous) @ (index):26200
 $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers @ (index):25479
 $tw.boot.boot @ (index):26198
 _boot @ (index):26207
 (anonymous) @ (index):26217

I first thought plugins were to blame so I disabled them, no effect. I then 
downgraded to .14 and again to .13 since .14 was showing the exact same 
symptoms. Returning to .13 showed my TW back to functionnal status.
As a test I tried to create a new TW under .15 and it is working fine, 
meaning my issue was a configuration issue on my TW folders. The error 
typically triggers when I open the Recent Sidebar tab.
Most errors I get during use are like this one :
(index):24287 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'day' of undefined
$tw.utils.error @ (index):24287
window.onerror @ (index):24314
setTimeout (async)
exports.nextTick @ $:/core/modules/utils/utils.js:584
exports.enqueueTiddlerEvent @ $:/core/modules/wiki.js:152
deleteTiddler @ (index):25065
Popup.cancel @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/popup.js:144
Popup.handleEvent @ $:/core/modules/utils/dom/popup.js:69
$:/core/modules/tiddler.js:138 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 
'day' of undefined
at $tw.Tiddler.exports.getFieldDay ($:/core/modules/tiddler.js:138)
at eval ($:/core/modules/filters/sameday.js:26)
at each ((index):25093)
at exports.sameday ($:/core/modules/filters/sameday.js:24)
at eval ($:/core/modules/filters.js:207)
at Object.$tw.utils.each ((index):24224)
at operationSubFunction ($:/core/modules/filters.js:190)
at eval ($:/core/modules/filters.js:238)
at eval ($:/core/modules/filters.js:263)
at Object.$tw.utils.each ((index):24224)
I could rollback to .13 and keep using my TW, but I'd really like to fix 
them as there are a few things the updates added I could use. 

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[tw] Not sure how to proceed

[William RENOU]

I tried installing a pluging on a working node.js tiddlywiki (running 
5.1.13).
First I wasn't sure if you had to both add the plugins through the 
ControlPanel and in the tiddlywiki.info file.
As it got me errors upon accessing the tiddlywiki, I guessed the 
ControlPanel part was wrong.
I restored my tiddlywiki (I had it backed up before trying anything, as I 
usually break everything I try to touch).
The tiddlywiki loads & works fine.
If I shut down the server, edit the tiddlywiki.info file to add the plugins 
to the plugins subsection, then save the file & launch the server again, no 
plugin is loaded.
Accessing the ControlPanel shows only the base plugins (tiddlyweb, 
filesystem, highlight and core [which is not listed in tiddlywiki.info]).

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[tw] Re: [TW5] MacroCall Widget & sub-macros

[William RENOU]

I got it from what was used as 3rd example 
on http://tiddlywiki.com/#MacroCallWidget. Looks like there are a few 
errors on it. It works now, thanks.

Le lundi 12 décembre 2016 05:10:48 UTC+1, Mark S. a écrit :
>
> Even though they may sometimes seem to perform as functions, macros just 
> support text substitution. Your version would have had a widget inside of a 
> widget, which probably won't work, except on the 2nd Tuesday of months with 
> full moons. Or something. I don't quite have it right yet.
>
> This code seems to work. Hopefully it will be close to what you need:
>
> \define myDataMacro(var2) <$transclude tiddler="$:/data/dataExample" index
> ={{$var2$!!keyfield}} />
>
>
> <$macrocall $name="myDataMacro"  var2={{!!mytarget}} />
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 5:47:47 PM UTC-8, William RENOU wrote:
>>
>> I'm currently trying to link a tiddler's field to a DataTiddler 
>> (dictionary tiddler). My (semi) working prototype has a SelectWidget 
>> pulling up a list of Tiddlers. When one is selected, its fields are 
>> displayed. The title of the current displayed tiddler is stored in a field 
>> inside the viewer tiddler. One of these fields is codified (to save time 
>> when editing this type of tiddler & to save time in case of field 
>> codification changes). This field key values are stored in a Dictionary 
>> Data Tiddler. My goal is to display the value of the field instead of its 
>> stored key. 
>> I use two macros to do so :
>>
>>- To retrieve the key to look for 'in the data tiddler) stored in the 
>>target tiddler
>>
>> \define targetKey() <$transclude tiddler={{!!myTarget}} field="keyField"
>> />
>>
>>- I have a second macro that'll look for the value to be displayed in 
>>my Data Tiddler 
>>
>> \define myDataMacro(var:0) <$transclude tiddler="$:/data/dataExample" 
>> index=$var$/>
>>
>>- I globaly use them using a MacroCallWidget
>>
>> <$macrocall $name="myDataMacro" var=<>/>
>>
>>
>>- My Data Tiddler has currently these test values
>>
>> 0:White1:Green2:Blue3:Orange4:Red5:Yellow
>>
>>
>> My issue is the values aren't displayed. It should display the value 
>> associated with the correct key, e.g. : when I try it to select a test 
>> tiddler having "1" (without the quotes) as value for the *keyField* field, 
>> instead of displaying *Green *it displays its value *1.*
>> Using the MacroCallWidget without specifying the *var *variable displays 
>> correctly the default value set in the *myDataMacro. *Using a key 
>> instead of the sub-macro displays it's value correctly.
>>
>

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[tw] [TW5] MacroCall Widget & sub-macros

[William RENOU]

I'm currently trying to link a tiddler's field to a DataTiddler (dictionary 
tiddler). My (semi) working prototype has a SelectWidget pulling up a list 
of Tiddlers. When one is selected, its fields are displayed. The title of 
the current displayed tiddler is stored in a field inside the viewer 
tiddler. One of these fields is codified (to save time when editing this 
type of tiddler & to save time in case of field codification changes). This 
field key values are stored in a Dictionary Data Tiddler. My goal is to 
display the value of the field instead of its stored key. 
I use two macros to do so :

   - To retrieve the key to look for 'in the data tiddler) stored in the 
   target tiddler

\define targetKey() <$transclude tiddler={{!!myTarget}} field="keyField"/>

   - I have a second macro that'll look for the value to be displayed in my 
   Data Tiddler 

\define myDataMacro(var:0) <$transclude tiddler="$:/data/dataExample" index=
$var$/>

   - I globaly use them using a MacroCallWidget

<$macrocall $name="myDataMacro" var=<>/>


   - My Data Tiddler has currently these test values

0:White1:Green2:Blue3:Orange4:Red5:Yellow


My issue is the values aren't displayed. It should display the value 
associated with the correct key, e.g. : when I try it to select a test 
tiddler having "1" (without the quotes) as value for the *keyField* field, 
instead of displaying *Green *it displays its value *1.*
Using the MacroCallWidget without specifying the *var *variable displays 
correctly the default value set in the *myDataMacro. *Using a key instead 
of the sub-macro displays it's value correctly.

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[tw] [TW5] Node.js & multiple instances

[William RENOU]

Is there a way to run simultaneously several TW5 on the same node, except 
using a different port for each one ? I was looking for a way to make them 
run in different adresses :
- first TW on localhost/node1
- second TW on localhost/node2
- etc...

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level transclusion

[William RENOU]

I tried putting the viewTiddler code from L1 directly into the tiddler, and 
it works perfectly. But I'd need to put the same code in each and every 
tiddler of the same type.
Possible workaround : instead of calling L2 through L1 from Root, maybe 
calling both of them from Root might work, like a nested list ?

Le lundi 1 août 2016 03:39:24 UTC+2, Mark S. a écrit :
>
> Well, I can see what the problem is, but I don't see what the solution is 
> other than putting a template (e.g. {{||L1Template}}) into each L1 object.. 
> Hopefully one of the gurus will have the magic.
>
> At the Level 1 level, the template works because the Level 2 objects have 
> actual content.
>
> At the Root level, it doesn't work (well, it works, but doesn't do what 
> you wanted it to do) because there's nothing actually in the Level 1 
> objects. You were hoping that it would bring in the rendered L1 objects, 
> but instead it's bringing in the *contents *of the L1 object(s) -- which 
> are empty.
>
> If there is a workaround that would allow you to bring in the rendered 
> contents of tiddler displayed via $:/tags/ViewTemplate it would be great to 
> learn about it.
>
> Good luck!
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 4:22:41 PM UTC-7, William RENOU wrote:
>>
>> Here's my root tiddler viewTemplate :
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[rootTag]]">
>>
>>   <$list filter="[tag[L1Tag]field:someField{!!title}]]">
>>
>> ! {{!!title}}
>> <<<
>> {{!!text}}
>> <<<
>>   
>>
>> 
>>
>> Here's my level 1 viewTemplate :
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[L1Tag]]">
>>
>>   <$list filter="[tag[L2Tag]field:someField{!!someValue}]">
>>
>> !! {{!!title}}
>> <<<
>> {{!!text}}
>> <<<
>>   
>>
>> 
>>
>> There's a field reference from level 1 tiddlers to the root Tiddler 
>> (using the root tiddler's title). Sames goes for L2 to L1 : it's 
>> referencing an ID on the L1 tiddler.
>> My first idea was to remove the block quotes, but it hasn't solved the 
>> issue of content not showing.
>>
>> Le lundi 1 août 2016 00:34:17 UTC+2, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 3:14:49 PM UTC-7, William RENOU wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if transcluding content accross several levels was 
>>>> possible ? 
>>>> Here's what I'm trying to do :
>>>>
>>>> RootTiddler (A)
>>>> + L1SubTiddler (Aa)
>>>>   + L2SubTiddler (Aa1)
>>>>   + L2SubTiddler (Aa2)
>>>> + L1SubTiddler (Ab)
>>>>   + L2SubTiddler (Ab1)
>>>> + L1SubTiddler (Ac)
>>>>
>>>> Both root-level tiddlers and level 1 subtitlers are displayed using 
>>>> viewTemplates. Level 2 tiddlers are transcluded in their Level 1 parent, 
>>>> transcluded again in the root Tiddler. 
>>>> But for some reason, while directly viewing a L1 tiddler displays its 
>>>> L2 contents, opening the root Tiddler only displays the Level 1 contents.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Show some code, please.  Or, better still, post your document online 
>>> somewhere.
>>> Then perhaps we can see what you are *actually* doing... rather than 
>>> just reading a description of what you *want* to do.
>>>
>>> -e
>>> Eric Shulman
>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>>> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level transclusion

[William RENOU]

Here's my root tiddler viewTemplate :
<$list filter="[is[current]tag[rootTag]]">

  <$list filter="[tag[L1Tag]field:someField{!!title}]]">

! {{!!title}}
<<<
{{!!text}}
<<<
  



Here's my level 1 viewTemplate :
<$list filter="[is[current]tag[L1Tag]]">

  <$list filter="[tag[L2Tag]field:someField{!!someValue}]">

!! {{!!title}}
<<<
{{!!text}}
<<<
  



There's a field reference from level 1 tiddlers to the root Tiddler (using 
the root tiddler's title). Sames goes for L2 to L1 : it's referencing an ID 
on the L1 tiddler.
My first idea was to remove the block quotes, but it hasn't solved the 
issue of content not showing.

Le lundi 1 août 2016 00:34:17 UTC+2, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>
> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 3:14:49 PM UTC-7, William RENOU wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if transcluding content accross several levels was 
>> possible ? 
>> Here's what I'm trying to do :
>>
>> RootTiddler (A)
>> + L1SubTiddler (Aa)
>>   + L2SubTiddler (Aa1)
>>   + L2SubTiddler (Aa2)
>> + L1SubTiddler (Ab)
>>   + L2SubTiddler (Ab1)
>> + L1SubTiddler (Ac)
>>
>> Both root-level tiddlers and level 1 subtitlers are displayed using 
>> viewTemplates. Level 2 tiddlers are transcluded in their Level 1 parent, 
>> transcluded again in the root Tiddler. 
>> But for some reason, while directly viewing a L1 tiddler displays its L2 
>> contents, opening the root Tiddler only displays the Level 1 contents.
>>
>
> Show some code, please.  Or, better still, post your document online 
> somewhere.
> Then perhaps we can see what you are *actually* doing... rather than just 
> reading a description of what you *want* to do.
>
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level transclusion

[William RENOU]

What more information do you need ?

Le lundi 1 août 2016 00:32:25 UTC+2, Jed Carty a écrit :
>
> What you want is almost certainly possible, but you need to give more 
> information about what is going on. You describe sometihng like how the 
> threaded comments are displayed in twederation here 
> , but I can't give you anything 
> specific without more information.
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[tw] [TW5] Multi-level transclusion

[William RENOU]

I was wondering if transcluding content accross several levels was possible 
? 
Here's what I'm trying to do :

RootTiddler (A)
+ L1SubTiddler (Aa)
  + L2SubTiddler (Aa1)
  + L2SubTiddler (Aa2)
+ L1SubTiddler (Ab)
  + L2SubTiddler (Ab1)
+ L1SubTiddler (Ac)

Both root-level tiddlers and level 1 subtitlers are displayed using 
viewTemplates. Level 2 tiddlers are transcluded in their Level 1 parent, 
transcluded again in the root Tiddler. 
But for some reason, while directly viewing a L1 tiddler displays its L2 
contents, opening the root Tiddler only displays the Level 1 contents.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Filtering out tag from tag list

[William RENOU]

Wasn't expecting it to be that simple. Big thanks for the quick reply :)

Le mardi 5 juillet 2016 01:58:51 UTC+2, Mark S. a écrit :
>
> Since you know the name of the tag you don't want, you can subtract it out:
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tags[]] 
> -[[filterTagNotToDisplay]]">{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} 
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 4:49:48 PM UTC-7, William RENOU wrote:
>>
>> I am currently using a viewtemplate to display a list (filtered using a 
>> specific tag plus a few other operators) of tiddlers with their respective 
>> tags.
>> I'm using the listWidget inside my main listWidget to display the tags of 
>> each Tiddler.
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[filterTagNotToDisplay]otherOperators]">
>> * <$list 
>> filter="[is[current]tags[]]">{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} 
>>
>> The issue (well not exactly a real issue since it's working perfectly 
>> fine) is all tags are displayed, even the one used in the main filter 
>> (which is somewhat pointless to display it since I'm interested in only 
>> having all the other tags).
>> I could very well let it as it is, but I was curious to know if there was 
>> a way to filter out an element from a list (the list here being tags) ?
>>
>>

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[tw] [TW5] Filtering out tag from tag list

[William RENOU]

I am currently using a viewtemplate to display a list (filtered using a 
specific tag plus a few other operators) of tiddlers with their respective 
tags.
I'm using the listWidget inside my main listWidget to display the tags of 
each Tiddler.

<$list filter="[tag[filterTagNotToDisplay]otherOperators]">
* <$list filter="[is[current]tags[]]">{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}} 

The issue (well not exactly a real issue since it's working perfectly fine) 
is all tags are displayed, even the one used in the main filter (which is 
somewhat pointless to display it since I'm interested in only having all 
the other tags).
I could very well let it as it is, but I was curious to know if there was a 
way to filter out an element from a list (the list here being tags) ?

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Issues understanding filters

[William RENOU]

Now I understand why it stopped working when I upgraded it from 5.0.8 to 
5.1.11. Now I just need to get the 'is[current]' part.
Thanks.

Le vendredi 3 juin 2016 22:40:38 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> Hi William
>
> On 3 Jun 2016, at 19:14, William RENOU <wilr...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>  I've read all documentation on the operators used, but I have found 
> nothing regarding use of / in the field operator - hard and soft parameters 
> but nothing about / being used. The only two examples given in field 
> Operator documentation do not use /.
>
>
> The use of the backslash to quote filter operands is an old, deprecated 
> feature. The idea was to enable regular expressions to be used as filter 
> operands. The problem was that each and every filter operator needed to 
> explicitly implement support for regexps; that never happened for the core 
> because it’s too much work with little benefit. Instead, the recommended 
> alternative is to use the `regexp` filter operator.
>
> When we deprecated the regexp filter operand syntax we also added a 
> warning in the JavaScript console. You can see it by entering the sample 
> filter in the advanced search “filter” tab and checking the JS console:
>
> [is[current]field:fieldName1/fieldValue|fieldValue2/]
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Issues understanding filters

[William RENOU]

Got this snippet from http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/ > $:/_notes

Le vendredi 3 juin 2016 22:23:15 UTC+2, PMario a écrit :
>
> Hi William, 
>
> IMO it would be easier, if you tell us, where you found it. 
>
> -m
>

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[tw] [TW5] Issues understanding filters

[William RENOU]

I've been studying various bits of code found around various TW5, but there 
are some pieces I can't understand how they work.
This is one of them :
<$list filter="[is[current]field:fieldName1/fieldValue|fieldValue2/]">
 <$count 
filter="[field:fieldName/fieldValue3/fieldName2{{!!fieldValue3}}]"/>

 <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" class="btn-invisible" 
param="$:/_Template/fieldValue3> fieldValue3 


I vaguely understand the goal of the <$button> tag, but I can't decypher 
the list and count filter. I've read all documentation on the operators 
used, but I have found nothing regarding use of / in the field operator - 
hard and soft parameters but nothing about / being used. The only two 
examples given in field Operator documentation do not use /.

My 'best' guess (and I've had many in the past few days trying to 
understand them) is the list filter is trying to filter tiddlers having 
either fieldValue or fieldValue2 as value for their fieldName1 field. Goal 
of the 'is[current]' is unknown.
But the <$count> filter totally evades me.

Not sure if this is relevant, but the tiddler is transcluded twice (the 
tiddler it's transcluded in is transcluded in another - no direct use).

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[tw] Re: Transclusion Indirection (Custom Cross Reference Search)

[William Jones]

Okay, that worked wonderfully and is much cleaner than my proposed solution.

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 4:13:21 AM UTC-4, BJ wrote:
>
> You can add custom search results try this-
> create a new tiddler called custom with contents
>
>
> \define searchResults()
> 
> <$list filter="[!is[system]search:address{$(searchTiddler)$}]" >
> {{!!title}}{{!!text}}
> 
> \end
> <>
>
> and tagged
>
> $:/tags/SearchResults
>
> this adds an extra tab in the search results popup
>
> Note that the syntax 
> $(searchTiddler)$}
> can only be used inside a macro.
>
> all the best 
> BJ
>

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[tw] Transclusion Indirection (Custom Cross Reference Search)

[William Jones]

Hello all,

I'm trying to RE a binary and am using TiddlyWiki to document my results. 
I've been tweaking the wiki in order to make cross referencing addresses 
with disassembled code snippets easier. However, I've run into a snag.

I keep RAM/ROM addresses as individual tiddlers with "size", "address", and 
"description" (quick summary) fields. One very useful thing for me would to 
be able to lookup what an address does *without me losing my place in the 
current code snippet,* which makes up the text field of certain tiddlers.

So I decided to implement a custom search bar underneath the standard 
search bar. When I type in an address, the search bar will pop up the size, 
address, and description fields of the tiddler(s) whose address field 
matches. I don't have to move from my current position at all because the 
fields for the current address are displayed nonintrusively.

Unfortunately, I'm not able to do this properly for reasons I don't 
understand. I edited $:/core/ui/SideBarLists to add a custom search field, 
but I am not able to access the text field or even the name of using the 
$()$ syntax.

<$set name="addrSearchTiddler" value="$:/temp/addrsearch">

Address Lookup:
<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/addrsearch" type="search" tag="input" 
focus={{$:/config/Search/AutoFocus}} focusPopup=<> class="tc-popup-handle"/>

<$reveal state="$:/temp/addrsearch" type="nomatch" text="">
<$text text=$(addrSearchTiddler)$ />


<$reveal state="$:/temp/addrsearch" type="match" text="">




The output of the following is:
Address Lookup: $(addrSearchTiddler)$


Although a similar method is used to implement the standard search, I feel 
like this is not the proper way to implement a custom search. How might I 
go about transcluding the text of $:/temp/addrsearch into a filter which 
will then display the desired fields (size, address, description) in a 
popup analogous to the standard search bar?

Thanks for any help :)! I don't post this message lightly, but I really 
need to get back to actually collecting data/worry about convenience later. 
And hey, when has a life hack ever actually paid for the time spent 
implementing it :)?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Writing to Two Separate Fields with Checkbox Input

[William Jackson]

Hi Scott

No problem. The filter syntax is all standard — nothing unusual for the 
ActionListops widget. There’s documentation on filter expressions and filter 
runs on tw5.com — takes a little getting used to though. I investigate filter 
expressions in the filter tab of advanced search — helps to see what’s going on.

regards,

William Jackson

On 14 January 2016 at 7:36:06 PM, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
(goo...@secret-hq.com) wrote

I probably just need to sit and contemplate your examples a while until it 
sinks in.  Thanks again for breaking <$action-listops> down for me and being so 
patient as I try to charge through it like a bull in a china shop.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Cycle a Tag with the new ActionListops widget

[William Jackson]

Hi Alex

At the moment, the macro can only cycle tags from a single list/tiddler (the 
‘list’ field.) It is this limitation that I am trying to address with a new 
filter operator.

There is a workaround which uses two ActionListops widgets per cycled tag (one 
to rotate the list and one to set the tag). This would allow for several 
tags/tiddler — but I’m trying to make things easier :-)

regards,

William Jackson

On 14 January 2016 at 1:06:08 PM, Alex Hough (r.a.ho...@gmail.com) wrote:

Matabele,

I think selection of tags by cycling will be very useful. It could make 
grouping tags easier too.

Alex

On 14 January 2016 at 06:24, Matabele <matabele.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex

Not sure where and how to add this, as it depends on both the macro, macro 
call, and the contents of the 'list' field. Difficult to describe within the 
constraints of widget examples. 

Would be easier if this macro were included as a demonstration macro on tw5.com 
-- then described in terms of a macro (that uses the ActionListops widget.)

We'll see how other users get on with this, and if the macro needs changing 
before I submit anything to tw5.com. I'm also busy developing a cycle[] filter 
operator, which promises to offer more versatility.

regards

On Thursday, 14 January 2016 08:12:40 UTC+2, AlexHough wrote:
It would make a good example of listOps on TiddlyWiki.com
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] edit-text widget with popup

[William Jackson]

Hi Tobias

OK thanks — I’ll give this a try.

regards

On 10 January 2016 at 3:18:17 PM, Tobias Beer (beertob...@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi Matabele,
 
I tried to add the class tc-popup-keep to the reveal, but the popup won't be 
sticky.
Any ideas how to make a reveal given focus by an edit-text-widget not close 
when clicking inside?

I figured it out. It needs both classes tc-popup AND tc-popup-keep. 

Best wishes,

Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] CycleTags button in TW5?

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Hi

I believe the widget syntax might be more intuitive using the action widget
type syntax -- I haven't yet experimented to see what can be done with the
new $action-setfield widget.

The filter syntax didn't come from the documentation -- I cribbed it from
someone else's example:

filter=[list[lists!!days]after{!!current}][list[lists!!days]first[]]+[first[]]

-- I agree; would be nice if this was easier to understand! I suppose a
widget that cycles through a space separated list might do the trick.

regards



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 Hi Tobias

  My pain point being that understanding and leveraging all this
 high-level syntax correctly appears to require unveiling a lot more
 concealed, under-the hood knowledge than a trivial js-script used to.

 Yes, except that the concealed, under-the-hood knowledge is just poor
 documentation.

 Perhaps missing from the developer docs http://tiddlywiki.com/dev, what
 are the standards / recommendations for extending the system-tiddler
 namespace when it comes to plugin modules / components? Is the
 recommendation to simply put it all under
 *$:/plugins/githubuser/pluginname/*?


 Yes, that's the best practice. It isn't enforced as a restriction because
 there are some situations where a plugin needs to define a shadow tiddler
 outside its namespace. For example, the core plugin defines
 GettingStarted, $:/ControlPanel etc. as shadow tiddlers. Other plugins
 may want to provide defaults (eg visibility of toolbar buttons that they
 include).

 Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How can I set the title of a tiddler when creating new tiddler from button?

[William Jackson]

Hi

Updating the widgets is a small matter, but with the rapid incremental
changes to TW5 lately I thought I would wait for TW to come out of beta
(20th September) before doing. This should avoid the scenario of multiple
incompatible versions.

regards




On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:19 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Well darn. I updated to 17-beta and now your plugins don't seem to work.
 ;-(

 Is there any hope you will be updating them soon?

 Thanks!
 Mark


 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:32:09 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:

 Hello Matabele,

 Thanks for the links! That seems to work. I was hoping to avoid the
 slippery slope of plugin addiction, but ... oh well.

 Thanks!
 Mark

 On Monday, September 8, 2014 12:10:57 PM UTC-8, Matabele wrote:

 Hi

 I haven't yet updated my widget plugins for 5.0.16, but for versions
 prior to this you can use my $maketid and $setfield widget plugins.
 They may be found here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/

 regards

 On Monday, September 8, 2014 8:58:46 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:

 I have a template like:

  $button message=tw-new-tiddler param=New Chapter Template New
 chapter/$button

 Is there a way that I can specify the starting title of the new tiddler
 from the button? Actually, it would be great if I could also fill in any
 fields from the button as well. That way I could re-use one template with
 multiple buttons.

 Thanks!
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Re: [tw] Re: Implementing tag functionality in other fields

[William Jackson]

Hi

I have written a $mangletags widget (yet to be updated to 5.0.16) which
may be more suitable for modification than the $fieldmangler widget --
have a look here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/

regards

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 Hi c pa

  I can't figure out how I would pass operator.suffix into
 $tw.utils.pushTop(results,options.wiki.getTiddlersWithTag(title));

 A new parameter needs to be added to getTiddlersWithTag() to indicate
 which tag field is to be used. The cache handling will also need to be
 changed to take into account the name of the tag field being used.

  * fieldmangler widget: similarly
 Could you give me a clue on how I should approach this one?

 This is more difficult. The tm-add-tag message only accepts a single
 parameter (the tag name), and there's currently no facility for adding
 additional parameters.

 I suspect that the best approach for the moment would be to add an
 attribute to the fieldmangler widget to indicate which tag field should be
 used.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


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 tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com wrote:


 OK I've made the code changes and tested them for
 * *tag filter*: has been extended to identify the tag field to be used
 eg [tag:mytagsfield[exampletag]]
 * *tags filter*: similarly [tags:mytagsfield[]]
 * *untagged filter*: similarly [untagged:mytagsfield[]]
 * *checkbox widget*: has been extended with an additional attribute to
 identify the tag field to be used
 So I've got the abiilty to execute lists and dashboards without clogging
 up the tags with non-semantic content

 The tagging filter would be nice to implement relatedness between
 tiddlers and use different field names to signify the semantic meaning of
 that relationship
  * tagging filter: [tagging:mytagsfield[]]
 I can't figure out how I would pass operator.suffix into
 $tw.utils.pushTop(results,options.wiki.getTiddlersWithTag(title));

 Tagging.js calls the following functions:
 this.getGlobalCache(taglist- + tag,function() {
 var tagmap = self.getTagMap();
 this.getGlobalCache(tagmap,function() { });

 The fieldmangler widget would be nice to implement button controls
  * fieldmangler widget: similarly
 Could you give me a clue on how I should approach this one?

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Re: [tw] Re: Implementing tag functionality in other fields

[William Jackson]

Hi

Thanks -- this addresses a problem I had. You may also be interested in the
$makelist widget -- this will fill a specified field with the output of a
filter expression.

regards

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 Ah hah. Thanks for this. I put what I've done at
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Tabbed left slider menu for v_5.0.10

[William Jackson]

Hi

Had a look in Firefox - the scrollbars look better with the Vanilla
palette, and not too bad with the Blue and Blanca palettes. I notice the
colour doesn't change across the palette's -- I guess this might be tricky,
especially to get things looking good on all browsers, and for all
palettes. Perhaps, I can work out a way for the user to set this for their
environment.

The scrollbars are terrible in Opera :-(

regards

On Thursday, May 8, 2014, Birthe C strikkeglad...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Matabele

 Everything looks fine to me. You have worked hard on this and it shows.
 I think it is ready for the regular use test.

 Really the only thing I could find is cosmetic. In your beautiful green
 theme, scrollbars turning lightblue ;-)

 Birthe

 On Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:25:35 AM UTC+2, Matabele wrote:

 Hi

 I have uploaded a revised version: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/

 I have applied fixes for the tag pills in the 'GTD' tab, and the tag
 pills in the Tickler folders -- also attended to several styling problems.

 This clears most of the outstanding issues -- I think the system is now
 usable (until something breaks!) I have tested this only in my environment
 -- please advise if there is anything that needs attending to in your
 environment.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Tabbed left slider menu for v_5.0.10

[William Jackson]

Hi cmari

I had noticed the same thing in Chromium -- this seems to happen when the
first tickler folder of each type is created, when there is an existing
tickler tagged with the name of that folder (@inbox, Mon, Jan, or
!project.) Doesn't seem to occur when another tickler folder is created,
even when an existing tickler carries that tag. Also happens on occasions
when the first tickler is created from a tickler folder. No problems
thereafter. Doesn't appear to have any consequences -- delete the warning
and continue.

I have no idea what causes this warning -- I'll try and locate the problem
or find a work around.

Thanks for the feedback.

regards


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 Hi Matabele,
 Thanks for all the great ideas and implementation!
 The only problem I have come across is that, in Chrome, the this is
 embarrassing javascript error pops up if you do the following:

 Open the GTD tab
 Click the todo button
 Click one of the plus signs (to add a Context, Tickler, or Project)

 I wish I were good enough at debugging to help figure out why
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Tabbed left slider menu for v_5.0.10

[William Jackson]

Hi

I think that would be a little over the top :-)

I have uploaded a revised edition (name change only) -- what do you think?

regards

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 *T*iddlywiki *O*ptimised *P*lanning..*TOP*

  It is such a wonderful example of what can be done with Tiddlywiki. Many
 will take a look at it and as we all need planning I think it can be very
 popular.

 No you did not think that way in making it.you thought of making it
 the best tool you could...You did it...and you should be proud.

 Birthe



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 Hi

 Thanks for the info. I suppose this could be a problem if my effort gets
 any traction. It appears that the trademark holders for 'GTD®' consider
 that the phrase 'MonkeyGTD' violated their trademark -- I presume they
 consider any word or phrase containing gee, tee, and dee (in that order),
 is a violation of their trademark. They also consider the phrase 'Getting
 Things Done®' a trademark.

 I have been developing this project for personal use and to try out some
 ideas in TW5, and hadn't got round to the idea that many others would be
 interested.

 If it gets down to it, I suppose they would have no objection to:
 -- GettingTD
 -- geeTD
 - gThingsD
 -- gTeeD

 But would object to:
 -- gTDone
 -- gTdee

 I tend to favour:
 -- geeTD (gee, that's done), or perhaps
 -- gETD (getting everything done) or
 -- gSTD (getting something done)
 --

 It appears they would certainly object to:
 -- gTDS (getting things done ... sometime)

 I wonder if they would also object to:
 -- gNTD (getting nothing done), because I've spent too much time
 customising my TW, or
 -- fSTD (finding something to do)
 :-)

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[tw] Re: Trouble Putting a PayPal button into Tiddlywiki

[William]

Oh!...Well that was easy.  Thanks heaps Eric!

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:38:32 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:57:26 PM UTC-7, William wrote:

 I'm using an online TiddlyWiki that I downloaded from TiddlySpot and I'm 
 trying to put a PayPal button either in the Menu or in a Tiddler.  PayPal 
 gave me some HTML code for the button but when I just paste this into a 
 tiddler it doesn't come up with the desired button.
 The code from PayPal:
 form action=https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr; method=post 
 target=_top
 ...

 /form


 In TWClassic, you must enclose HTML content within literal 
 html.../html markers for it to be processed.

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[tw] Trouble Putting a PayPal button into Tiddlywiki

[William]

Hi,

I'm using an online TiddlyWiki that I downloaded from TiddlySpot and I'm 
trying to put a PayPal button either in the Menu or in a Tiddler.  PayPal 
gave me some HTLM code for the button but when I just paste this into a 
tiddler it doesn't come up with the desired button.  What am I doing wrong 
or what have I neglected to do to get this to work?  Thanks in advance for 
your help.

The code from PayPal:

form action=https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr; method=post 
target=_top
input type=hidden name=cmd value=_s-xclick
input type=hidden name=hosted_button_id value=YT3DBBSBZ9KEQ
input type=image 
src=https://www.paypalobjects.com/en_US/i/btn/btn_buynowCC_LG.gif; 
border=0 name=submit alt=PayPal - The safer, easier way to pay 
online!
img alt= border=0 
src=https://www.paypalobjects.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif; width=1 
height=1
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[tw] Re: SinglePageMode not working online?

[William]

Perfect, thanks!

On Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:03:38 PM UTC+8, PMario wrote:

 SinglePageModePlugin uses several config.option variables, that can be 
 defined with cookies. If you set them from a file:// url they are only 
 set at your computer. 

 option chkSinglePageMode Display one tiddler at a time 
 option chkSinglePagePermalink Automatically permalink current 
 tiddler 
 option chkSinglePageKeepFoldedTiddlers Don't close tiddlers that 
 are folded 
 option chkSinglePageKeepEditedTiddlers Don't close tiddlers that 
 are being edited 
 option chkTopOfPageMode Open tiddlers at the top of the page 
 option chkBottomOfPageMode Open tiddlers at the bottom of the page 
 option chkSinglePageAutoScroll Automatically scroll tiddler into 
 view (if needed) 

 To set them permanently create a tiddler eg: zzConfig and tag it 
 systemConfig. 

 add eg: 
 // Display one tiddler at a time 
 config.options.chkSinglePageMode = true; 

  
  // starts a javascript comment and is ignored by TW core. It's just 
 for documentaiton. 
 To define the others just adjust the chk??? name 

  
 config.options.chkSinglePageMode = true; 

 sets the value. true is checked and false is unchecked option. 

  
 If you use FireFox brwoser, be sure to do a shift page reload, after 
 uploading to tiddlyspot. So the browser cach is not used. I do have 
 trouble some time with FF caching. 

 hope this helps 
 have fun! 
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[tw] SinglePageMode not working online?

[William]

I'm having trouble getting SinglePageMode to work when it is uploaded to 
tiddlyspot (http://hearths.tiddlyspot.com/). I've downloaded the most recent 
plugin from TiddlyTools and configured it to display single page, open at top 
and and scroll to focus. I can save these settings to file and they remain 
saved and work well offline, the problem arises when I upload to tiddlyspot and 
find that the settings on SinglePageMode are no longer applied.  What am I 
doing wrong here?

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Re: [tw] Re: newbie seeks tutor

[william taione]

ok so i used the method described below to add and image and it worked 
but the image loops. it starts on the far left and where the image 
should stop it begins a second copy of the image. it also cuts of a 
portion of the bottom of the image.  should my image be sized just right 
for the field its filling or is there another way to get this to look 
correct? the banner im useing at the moment it 810x170px


On 10/28/2010 2:41 AM, colmjude wrote:

because im trying to use a banner style image in the header. as one
would in a basic html sheet.

The following section of the PageTemplate tiddler deals with the
header:
div class='header' macro='gradient vert
[[ColorPalette::PrimaryLight]] [[ColorPalette::PrimaryMid]]'
div class='headerShadow'
span class='siteTitle' refresh='content' tiddler='SiteTitle'/
spannbsp;
span class='siteSubtitle' refresh='content' tiddler='SiteSubtitle'/
span
/div

The easiest way to apply an image banner is to
1) remove the macro and gradient attribute from the first line -div
class='header'
2) apply you image via CSS in the stylesheet tiddler. Include
something like
.header { background-image:url(./images/banner.jpg); }

That should do it

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[tw] images as tiddlers?

[william taione]

OK so I'm still pretty new to this group but id just like to say thank 
you to everyone. I don't think I've ever learned so much so fast about a 
markup.  props everybody!


so is it possible to set an image. for example a .jpeg or .gif as the 
tiddler? if so, how?
and can the tiddler appear nameless if its an image? as in no title 
shown on the image tiddler when hosted to the web?


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Re: [tw] Re: newbie seeks tutor

[william taione]

Thanks for the quick response colm!

The first issue I ran into thats wikkid confusing is in the page 
template tiddler.  it looks like html , but it doesn't act like html. 
is this a unique markup or just something i've never seen before? i ask 
because im trying to use a banner style image in the header. as one 
would in a basic html sheet.


Taione


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[tw] Re: Backups are not created.

[William R. Buckley]

Yes, the OS is Windows XP SP3, the browser is Firefox 3.0.7,
and the path is set to

D:\EmbryoPhysicsBackups

or 

D:/EmbryoPhysicsBackups

I've tried both, and these with and without the trailing slash.

Thank you.

wrb 

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 Subject: [tw] Re: Backups are not created.
 
 
  I am saving changes to a TiddlyWiki, and even though I have created 
  the directory (folder) and given the path in the advanced 
 options, the 
  backup file is not created, even as changes to the TiddlyWiki are 
  saved.
 
 Could you provide some more details (OS, browser etc.):
   http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
 
 Also relevant is which path you're using for the backup directory.
 
 
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[tw] Re: Backups are not created.

[William R. Buckley]

Well, then, aside from placing backups in the same directory
as the non-backup (i.e. what is expectantly the current correct
copy), there is no way to obtain backup in Firefox.

I'll check on the absolute pathing issue, and get back to you.

Thanks for the clarification.

wrb 

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 Subject: [tw] Re: Backups are not created.
 
 
  Yes, the OS is Windows XP SP3, the browser is Firefox 
 3.0.7, and the 
  path is set to D:\EmbryoPhysicsBackups
 
 I assume the TiddlyWiki document is not located in that folder?
 For security reasons, Firefox 3 does not allow access to 
 files outside the working directory:
  http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Firefox#File_Access
 
 Also, if I remember correctly, you cannot use absolute paths 
 for backups. (It'd be good if someone could confirm and 
 document this.)
 
 
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[tw] TiddlyWiki newbie - things do not seem to be saved - I must be doing something wrong.

[William R. Buckley]

OK, I have downloaded the empty.html file, and made edits, then
clicked done, and saved the result, only to have it disappear into the
*ether*

I am generally competent around computational systems.  So, what I
really need are a few pointers, to other posts, or tutorials, etc.

My goal is to construct a Wiki that keeps track of the various class
sessions associated with a course offered via SecondLife, which course
addresses the topic of reverse engineering of the embryo.  I can
provide interested parties with copies of the TiddlyWiki already
created, should that be of value to those who offer their assistance.

I have already visited some of the other tutorials, and it has been a
few weeks since last I tried to work with TiddlyWiki, so I will return
to those tutorials.

Additional suggestions and comments by others are solicited.

William R. Buckley

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[tw] re: anchors with SectionLinksPlugin (coreTweak #784)

[William Mason]

Thanks Eric

... I did  some experimenting too ... Results / Examples below.


On Jan 31, 1:29 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  tiddlywiki = new v2.4.3 plus the SectionLinksPlugin: v1.1.0 / Firefox
v3.
 :
 - HOW can I jump to a new file with the tiddler:  misc test??

 The problem you described has *nothing* to do with SectionLinkPlugin,
 and is simply an incorrect understanding of TiddlyWiki's URL
 'paramifier' syntax.


Thanks for the clarification.  I searched the http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki,
may be I just needed to look for the right thing.   In looking at the
explanation, does that mean I can't use the external parameters to jump to a
heading?

I put this into effect ... and did some experiments with the heading label
(scrolling) and found some interesting and inconsistent behaviours.

I am sure some of these results are (minor) bugs, and others need to be
refractored to ensure the same inputs give consistent results.

I apologise if I am making beginner mistakes on syntax.  I began by pasting
into the browser address bar to see what was sensible for the Open
function.

It is the TiddleWiki links and the outcomes when yuou click them that
stirred my interest to see what was reliable and what should be avoided (or
not implemented).

Hope this helps.  The earlier explanation certainly helped me out.

Cheers,
   W.

 Thus, your link attempt was *almost* correct, and simply needs the
 addition of the encoded brackets in order for it to work as you
 expect, like this:

[[Notes - misc test|file:./notes.html#%5B%5Bmisc%20test%5D%5D]]

Experiment base-line
-

Format like
 [[sandbox|  file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox##four%5D%5D  ]]
 [[sandbox|  file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox%35%35four%5D%5D  ]]


To link to
 sandbox.html tiddleWiki, tiddler: sandbox, heading label !four

Results:

sandbox - misc test javascript:;

   1. 
sandboxfile:/Wisdom/thumb/%7Ewhiteknowledge/wiki/sandbox.html#open:sandbox
   uses :: file:./sandbox.html#open:sandbox javascript:; ... (works)
   2. 
sandboxfile:/Wisdom/thumb/%7Ewhiteknowledge/wiki/sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox%5D%5D
   using :: file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox%5D%5D javascript:; ...
   (works)
   3. sandbox - misc
testfile:/Wisdom/thumb/%7Ewhiteknowledge/wiki/sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test%5D%5D
   using :: file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test%5D%5D
   ... Jump to opens misc test page (works)
  - *But* - same link
file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test%5D%5Djavascript:;
  ... scrolls to :: file:./sandbox.html#open:[[misc test]] ... (fail)
  - Not sure why identical URI-s javascript:; give a different result.

  _ _ _ _
   4. Comparing the relative URI-s below, with the result for a full path
   name I found that pasting the URI into the browser works as expected. Yet a
   wiki link like
  - file://c:/wiki/sandbox.html#open:sandbox
  open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test%35%35four%5D%5D javascript:; ... (fail)
  - With label :: Heading
Fourfile:///c:/wiki/sandbox.html#open:sandbox%20open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test%35%35four%5D%5D(linked
to:
  [[file://c:/wiki/sandbox.html#open:sandbox
  open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test%35%35four%5D%5D]]
  Opens TiddleWiki javascript:; ::
  file://c:/wiki/sandbox.html#open:sandbox.html and two tiddlers: *
  sandbox* (which is the default) and misc test55four ... (fail)
  - On the second, labelled, URI link, browser address bar is:
  ... file://c:/wiki/sandbox.html#open:sandbox..html#open:sandbox
  open:[[misc test55four]] (fail) - Parse problem?
  _ _ _ _
   5. sandbox - misc test - four javascript:;
   Scroll jumps to :: file:./sandbox.html#open:sandbox open:[[misc test
   ... (fail) = Stops parsing on the *##* (*%35*, see item 4 too)
  1. file:./sandbox.html#open:sandbox
open:%5B%5Bmisc%20test##four%5D%5Djavascript:;
  scrolls to :: file:./sandbox.html#open:sandbox open:[[misc test ...
  (fail)
  2. 
sandboxfile:/Wisdom/thumb/%7Ewhiteknowledge/wiki/sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox%35%35four%5D%5D
  file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox%35%35four%5D%5D javascript:;
  ... Scrolls to file:./sandbox.html#open:[[sandbox55four]]
(fail —Parse bug)
  3. file:./sandbox.html#open:%5B%5Bsandbox##four%5D%5D javascript:;
  ... Scrolls to :: file:./sandbox.html#open:[[sandbox (fail — Parse
  bug?)
   _ _ _ _

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