Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
I was experiencing the same issue and I didn't understand why. Glad to see that it is fixed in the next release. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi Jeremy, That's great ! Thanks a lot. FrD Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 17:09:36 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : > > Hi FrD > > > Without the linkcatcher, it works well > > The fix *should* be to add the attribute message="tw-navigate" to the > linkcatcher widget. However, in 5.0.8 there turned out to be a couple of > bugs that stop that working. They are both now fixed for 5.0.9: > > > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/e5fe3f76ac1c8191b6809c9f8c1a128373449b15 > > Best wishes > > Jeremy. > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi FrD
> Without the linkcatcher, it works well
The fix *should* be to add the attribute message="tw-navigate" to the
linkcatcher widget. However, in 5.0.8 there turned out to be a couple of
bugs that stop that working. They are both now fixed for 5.0.9:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/e5fe3f76ac1c8191b6809c9f8c1a128373449b15
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, FrD wrote:
>
>
> Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 16:35:53 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
>> Hi FrD
>>
>> > But I was wondering if it was possible to use the set and setTo
>> attributes AND still propagate to the navigator widget the message
>> originating from the link widget.
>>
>> That's already what the linkcatcher widget does:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/
>> modules/widgets/linkcatcher.js#L68
>>
>> It will perform any or all of the three actions, depending on which
>> attributes are provided.
>>
>> Conceivably the issue you're encountering is that the ordering of the
>> actions is wrong?
>>
>>
> The code of my slider is :
>
> <$reveal type="match" text="" default="" state="$:/state/toc">
> <$button set="$:/state/toc" setTo="open" class="btn-invisible
> tw-slider mynav-
> btn">{{$:/_images/arrow-down-double}}
>
>
> <$reveal type="nomatch" text="" default="" state="$:/state/toc">
> <$button set="$:/state/toc" setTo="" class="btn-invisible tw-slider
> mynav-
> btn">{{$:/_images/arrow-up-double}}
>
>
> <$reveal type="nomatch" text="" default="" state="$:/state/toc"
> animate="yes">
> <$linkcatcher set="$:/state/toc" setTo="">
>
> {{{[list[Chaque moment est l'univers]]}}}
>
>
>
>
> Without the linkcatcher, it works well : a click on the button opens the
> slider and a click on a link triggers the navigation.
> With the linkcatcher (as above) the slider closes when a link is clicked
> and no navigation is performed.
> According to your message I should add a message attribute, but with which
> value ? (I couldn't find in the doc)
>
> Thanks again.
>
> FrD
>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 16:35:53 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> Hi FrD
>
> > But I was wondering if it was possible to use the set and setTo
> attributes AND still propagate to the navigator widget the message
> originating from the link widget.
>
> That's already what the linkcatcher widget does:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/widgets/linkcatcher.js#L68
>
> It will perform any or all of the three actions, depending on which
> attributes are provided.
>
> Conceivably the issue you're encountering is that the ordering of the
> actions is wrong?
>
>
The code of my slider is :
<$reveal type="match" text="" default="" state="$:/state/toc">
<$button set="$:/state/toc" setTo="open" class="btn-invisible tw-slider
mynav-
btn">{{$:/_images/arrow-down-double}}
<$reveal type="nomatch" text="" default="" state="$:/state/toc">
<$button set="$:/state/toc" setTo="" class="btn-invisible tw-slider
mynav-
btn">{{$:/_images/arrow-up-double}}
<$reveal type="nomatch" text="" default="" state="$:/state/toc"
animate="yes">
<$linkcatcher set="$:/state/toc" setTo="">
{{{[list[Chaque moment est l'univers]]}}}
Without the linkcatcher, it works well : a click on the button opens the
slider and a click on a link triggers the navigation.
With the linkcatcher (as above) the slider closes when a link is clicked
and no navigation is performed.
According to your message I should add a message attribute, but with which
value ? (I couldn't find in the doc)
Thanks again.
FrD
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Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi FrD > But I was wondering if it was possible to use the set and setTo attributes AND still propagate to the navigator widget the message originating from the link widget. That's already what the linkcatcher widget does: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/widgets/linkcatcher.js#L68 It will perform any or all of the three actions, depending on which attributes are provided. Conceivably the issue you're encountering is that the ordering of the actions is wrong? Best wishes Jeremy On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:29 PM, FrD wrote: > > > Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 12:36:16 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : > >> The linkcatcher widget captures tw-navigate messages, which is the >> message generated by the link widget. >> >> >>> Or suppose the link widget has "set" and "setTo" attributes. It could >>> set a state tiddler to another value and thus activate a "reveal" widget >>> and so maybe close a tiddler or better (in my case -:) ) a slider ... >>> >> >> That's really what the linkcatcher lets us do: avoid having set/setTo >> attributes on the link widget. >> >> > > Hi Jeremy > > Thanks for your answer. > I've tried the linkcatcher widget. Indeed it captures the message from the > link widget inside. > But if I use the set and setTo attributes it sets the right tiddler to the > right value but the navigation to the target tiddler doesn't happen. I > understand it's the correct behaviour of the linkcatcher widget. > But I was wondering if it was possible to use the set and setTo attributes > AND still propagate to the navigator widget the message originating from > the link widget. > So a click would both trigger a navigation AND set a tiddler to a value. > > Something like : > <$linkcatcher set="$:/state/mystatetiddler" setTo="MyValue" > propagate="Yes"> > ...link(s) ... > > > I don't know if it's easy to do or even if it's a good idea ... > > FrD > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
I've just seen the thread by Danielo : https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/juZt0WaNbII/2RLhvcqzPScJ (TW5 Linkcatcher) This is kind of related ... FrD Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 16:29:24 UTC+2, FrD a écrit : > > > > Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 12:36:16 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : >> >> The linkcatcher widget captures tw-navigate messages, which is the >> message generated by the link widget. >> >> >>> Or suppose the link widget has "set" and "setTo" attributes. It could >>> set a state tiddler to another value and thus activate a "reveal" widget >>> and so maybe close a tiddler or better (in my case -:) ) a slider ... >>> >> >> That's really what the linkcatcher lets us do: avoid having set/setTo >> attributes on the link widget. >> >> > > Hi Jeremy > > Thanks for your answer. > I've tried the linkcatcher widget. Indeed it captures the message from the > link widget inside. > But if I use the set and setTo attributes it sets the right tiddler to the > right value but the navigation to the target tiddler doesn't happen. I > understand it's the correct behaviour of the linkcatcher widget. > But I was wondering if it was possible to use the set and setTo attributes > AND still propagate to the navigator widget the message originating from > the link widget. > So a click would both trigger a navigation AND set a tiddler to a value. > > Something like : > <$linkcatcher set="$:/state/mystatetiddler" setTo="MyValue" > propagate="Yes"> > ...link(s) ... > > > I don't know if it's easy to do or even if it's a good idea ... > > FrD > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Le mercredi 9 avril 2014 12:36:16 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : > > The linkcatcher widget captures tw-navigate messages, which is the message > generated by the link widget. > > >> Or suppose the link widget has "set" and "setTo" attributes. It could set >> a state tiddler to another value and thus activate a "reveal" widget and so >> maybe close a tiddler or better (in my case -:) ) a slider ... >> > > That's really what the linkcatcher lets us do: avoid having set/setTo > attributes on the link widget. > > Hi Jeremy Thanks for your answer. I've tried the linkcatcher widget. Indeed it captures the message from the link widget inside. But if I use the set and setTo attributes it sets the right tiddler to the right value but the navigation to the target tiddler doesn't happen. I understand it's the correct behaviour of the linkcatcher widget. But I was wondering if it was possible to use the set and setTo attributes AND still propagate to the navigator widget the message originating from the link widget. So a click would both trigger a navigation AND set a tiddler to a value. Something like : <$linkcatcher set="$:/state/mystatetiddler" setTo="MyValue" propagate="Yes"> ...link(s) ... I don't know if it's easy to do or even if it's a good idea ... FrD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi FrD After having used this solution, I was wondering if the slider could be > closed by cliking on a link (inside th ToC). > That's the same as the original request: the ability to configure the popup manager to dismiss popups on any click. > As the link widget creates a handler for the onclick event, one can > imagine extending the link widget so that it could also send messages to be > captured by an enclosing widget (linkcatcher ?). > The linkcatcher widget captures tw-navigate messages, which is the message generated by the link widget. > Or suppose the link widget has "set" and "setTo" attributes. It could set > a state tiddler to another value and thus activate a "reveal" widget and so > maybe close a tiddler or better (in my case -:) ) a slider ... > That's really what the linkcatcher lets us do: avoid having set/setTo attributes on the link widget. > I don't know if it makes sense as I don't understand the internals of TW5, > just wondering ... > No problem, ask away. Best wishes Jeremy > > Any thoughts ? > > Thanks > > FrD > > Le lundi 7 avril 2014 19:04:10 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : > >> Hi FrD >> >> There's no support at the moment for changing the popup dismissal >> behaviour. There's been some discussion about adding a user interface to >> enable users to explicitly "pin" or "unpin" each popup, determining how >> readily it is dismissed. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> >> >> -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the answer. For now I'm using a slider so the user can have the ToC appear at the top and the bottom of a chapter (i.e. a tiddler) and navigate to another chapter (i. e. tiddler). The slider still remains open when link is clicked but the visual effect is less "weird" than with a popup. After having used this solution, I was wondering if the slider could be closed by cliking on a link (inside th ToC). As the link widget creates a handler for the onclick event, one can imagine extending the link widget so that it could also send messages to be captured by an enclosing widget (linkcatcher ?). Or suppose the link widget has "set" and "setTo" attributes. It could set a state tiddler to another value and thus activate a "reveal" widget and so maybe close a tiddler or better (in my case -:) ) a slider ... I don't know if it makes sense as I don't understand the internals of TW5, just wondering ... Any thoughts ? Thanks FrD Le lundi 7 avril 2014 19:04:10 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit : > > Hi FrD > > There's no support at the moment for changing the popup dismissal > behaviour. There's been some discussion about adding a user interface to > enable users to explicitly "pin" or "unpin" each popup, determining how > readily it is dismissed. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi FrD There's no support at the moment for changing the popup dismissal behaviour. There's been some discussion about adding a user interface to enable users to explicitly "pin" or "unpin" each popup, determining how readily it is dismissed. Best wishes Jeremy On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:25 PM, FrD wrote: > Hi, > > Some times ago there was a thread that discussed popups. > Namely the possibility to have "transient" popups, that is popups that > disappear once clicked (inside ou outside). It's not the current behaviour > (at least for instance for the tag chooser and so it allows to choose > multiple tags). > > But I could definitly use a transient popup. Actually I want to open a > popup with a button at the top of each tiddler that contains a chapter (of > a book or from notes) ; this popup would contain a table of content (TOC) > with links to each chapter. For now clicking on a link of the TOC make me > jump to the right tiddler but the popup is still open. > > Has anybody written something for this kind of popup or modified something > ? Or is it planned in the core ? > > Thanks > > FrD > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] "transient" popups
Hi, Some times ago there was a thread that discussed popups. Namely the possibility to have "transient" popups, that is popups that disappear once clicked (inside ou outside). It's not the current behaviour (at least for instance for the tag chooser and so it allows to choose multiple tags). But I could definitly use a transient popup. Actually I want to open a popup with a button at the top of each tiddler that contains a chapter (of a book or from notes) ; this popup would contain a table of content (TOC) with links to each chapter. For now clicking on a link of the TOC make me jump to the right tiddler but the popup is still open. Has anybody written something for this kind of popup or modified something ? Or is it planned in the core ? Thanks FrD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
