[tw5] Re: Single File TW: Dropbox vs. "TW5 in the Sky for Dropbox"

[Dan Hoffman]

Thanks so much, Birthe. Simply knowing that someone recently used the app 
from Arlen Beiler is reassuring and helpful. Thanks for taking the time to 
share how you used it and under what circumstances.

Thanks,
dlh  

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 10:44:58 AM UTC-10 strikke...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi dlh,
> I am sure it was not anything you said. You are more than welcome to ask 
> questions.
>
> I am sure you know, that you can view your dropbox directories and files 
> on the web, when logged in. With the app from Arlen Beiler, you are able to 
> open your wiki, edit  and save it.
> I used it yesterday setting up af new computer. With dropbox account 
> limited to 3 devices, It did not install dropbox on this new computer. But 
> I needed some of the information in one of my wikis.
> Sure enough I got a mail asking if it was me logging in.
>
> I think you should try it out yourself, just to get a feeling of how it 
> works. Even if you normally work in another way it is nice to know your 
> options, when needed.
>
> Birthe
> søndag den 28. februar 2021 kl. 21.21.49 UTC+1 skrev dlh...@gmail.com:
>
>>
>> Was it something I said? 🤣 
>>
>> Hope I didn't offend anyone asking questions about Dropbox in the 
>> Tiddlywiki Google group. Just trying to learn from the experience and 
>> wisdom of others using cloud storage. Mahalo.   
>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-10 Dan Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'd like to better understand how to use TW with Dropbox. Currently, I'm 
>>> using TiddlyDesktop (0.0.14) with a single file TW. 
>>>
>>> My understanding is using TW with a service like Dropbox might provide 
>>> two benefits: 1) the ability to have a cloud backup of my TW, and 2) the 
>>> ability to access my TW on another device (after syncing of course). 
>>>
>>> Assuming this is semi-correct, what's the difference between 1) saving a 
>>> single file TW in a Dropbox folder and letting Dropbox do its thing, and 2) 
>>> using @Arlene22's "TiddlyWiki5 in the Sky for Dropbox" 
>>> ? Are there advantages and 
>>> disadvantages to each approach?
>>>
>>> I apologize if this has already been addressed. I've tried searching the 
>>> community but haven't seen/found a simple explanation on this.
>>>
>>> Thank you for helping a newcomer along 👍
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Single File TW: Dropbox vs. "TW5 in the Sky for Dropbox"

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Hi dlh,
I am sure it was not anything you said. You are more than welcome to ask 
questions.

I am sure you know, that you can view your dropbox directories and files on 
the web, when logged in. With the app from Arlen Beiler, you are able to 
open your wiki, edit  and save it.
I used it yesterday setting up af new computer. With dropbox account 
limited to 3 devices, It did not install dropbox on this new computer. But 
I needed some of the information in one of my wikis.
Sure enough I got a mail asking if it was me logging in.

I think you should try it out yourself, just to get a feeling of how it 
works. Even if you normally work in another way it is nice to know your 
options, when needed.

Birthe
søndag den 28. februar 2021 kl. 21.21.49 UTC+1 skrev dlh...@gmail.com:

>
> Was it something I said? 🤣 
>
> Hope I didn't offend anyone asking questions about Dropbox in the 
> Tiddlywiki Google group. Just trying to learn from the experience and 
> wisdom of others using cloud storage. Mahalo.   
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-10 Dan Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'd like to better understand how to use TW with Dropbox. Currently, I'm 
>> using TiddlyDesktop (0.0.14) with a single file TW. 
>>
>> My understanding is using TW with a service like Dropbox might provide 
>> two benefits: 1) the ability to have a cloud backup of my TW, and 2) the 
>> ability to access my TW on another device (after syncing of course). 
>>
>> Assuming this is semi-correct, what's the difference between 1) saving a 
>> single file TW in a Dropbox folder and letting Dropbox do its thing, and 2) 
>> using @Arlene22's "TiddlyWiki5 in the Sky for Dropbox" 
>> ? Are there advantages and 
>> disadvantages to each approach?
>>
>> I apologize if this has already been addressed. I've tried searching the 
>> community but haven't seen/found a simple explanation on this.
>>
>> Thank you for helping a newcomer along 👍
>>
>>
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Single File TW: Dropbox vs. "TW5 in the Sky for Dropbox"

[Dan Hoffman]

Was it something I said? 🤣 

Hope I didn't offend anyone asking questions about Dropbox in the 
Tiddlywiki Google group. Just trying to learn from the experience and 
wisdom of others using cloud storage. Mahalo.   
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-10 Dan Hoffman wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to better understand how to use TW with Dropbox. Currently, I'm 
> using TiddlyDesktop (0.0.14) with a single file TW. 
>
> My understanding is using TW with a service like Dropbox might provide two 
> benefits: 1) the ability to have a cloud backup of my TW, and 2) the 
> ability to access my TW on another device (after syncing of course). 
>
> Assuming this is semi-correct, what's the difference between 1) saving a 
> single file TW in a Dropbox folder and letting Dropbox do its thing, and 2) 
> using @Arlene22's "TiddlyWiki5 in the Sky for Dropbox" 
> ? Are there advantages and 
> disadvantages to each approach?
>
> I apologize if this has already been addressed. I've tried searching the 
> community but haven't seen/found a simple explanation on this.
>
> Thank you for helping a newcomer along 👍
>
>
>

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[tw5] Single File TW: Dropbox vs. "TW5 in the Sky for Dropbox"

[Dan Hoffman]

Hi All,

I'd like to better understand how to use TW with Dropbox. Currently, I'm 
using TiddlyDesktop (0.0.14) with a single file TW. 

My understanding is using TW with a service like Dropbox might provide two 
benefits: 1) the ability to have a cloud backup of my TW, and 2) the 
ability to access my TW on another device (after syncing of course). 

Assuming this is semi-correct, what's the difference between 1) saving a 
single file TW in a Dropbox folder and letting Dropbox do its thing, and 2) 
using @Arlene22's "TiddlyWiki5 in the Sky for Dropbox" 
? Are there advantages and 
disadvantages to each approach?

I apologize if this has already been addressed. I've tried searching the 
community but haven't seen/found a simple explanation on this.

Thank you for helping a newcomer along 👍

   

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Re: [tw] Dropbox no longer serving HTMTL files?

[Arlen Beiler]

Looks like my date is the same as Jeremy's, as I have Dropbox pro as well.
I guess that means I will have to find a place for Twits5-Dropbox. Jeremy,
would you be able to host it?

Not that I have the time to do it right now. But maybe sometime yet this
winter.

On Sep 1, 2016 17:28, "Ste Wilson"  wrote:

There are a few Dropbox Apps that allow you to serve files. I use pancake.io.
to serve. svg files to my tiddlyspot.
There is also my.droppages.
duet.to which I think you have to pay for.
I think I managed to serve a tiddlywiki from the first two before some
helpful soul on the forums pointed me to tuddlyspot.

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Re: [tw] Dropbox no longer serving HTMTL files?

[Ste Wilson]

There are a few Dropbox Apps that allow you to serve files. I use pancake.io. 
to serve. svg files to my tiddlyspot. 
There is also my.droppages. 
duet.to which I think you have to pay for.
I think I managed to serve a tiddlywiki from the first two before some helpful 
soul on the forums pointed me to tuddlyspot. 

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Re: [tw] Dropbox no longer serving HTMTL files?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Couchdb (and by extension cloudant too) is able to serve html documents. This 
have the advantage that your wiki is being served from the same domain where 
your data is stored, so CORS restrictions do not apply, and hence security 
increases (no need to enable CORS). 
Noteself can be used as client for any couchdb, including one that is serving 
it.
Noteself in fact installs a special document (a view) on every DB it connects 
to. This document is required for requesting skinny tiddlers, so it does 50% of 
the installation process for any plugin that does not use pouchdb (there is 
one!). 

Maybe I can create a Noteself edition that does the entire installation 
process, but that would require CORS, at least during the installation.

As I said, Noteself can act as client, with the extra advantage of caching the 
tiddlers locally,and requesting only the new ones. 

Regards 

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Re: [tw] Dropbox no longer serving HTMTL files?

[Jeremy Ruston]

I’ve just received the same email from Dropbox, but in my case the retirement 
date is September 1st 2017. Perhaps paying for Dropbox Pro has bought an 
unexpected benefit.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 1 Sep 2016, at 16:41, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Cloudant exposes actual web pages -- just data. If it does, 
> that would add a whole new angle. So, you would still need somewhere to put 
> your TW if you want people to see it.
> 
> About Tiddlyspot, I can't help wondering why it hasn't been updated to 
> support TW5 out-of-the-box when it's still cluttered with these old versions 
> of TWC. When I see that kind of lag I assume someone is losing interest. Who 
> is paying for TS, and how long can they afford to keep doing that? The 
> security is very lax, and I'm surprised that sp-ammers haven't discovered it 
> yet. 
> 
> Have fun!
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:00:48 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
> It seems others also got this. In deed a likely problem for TWs hosted there. 
> 
> My spontaneous recommendation is TiddlySpot  but it 
> seems some also like Neocities . IMO the former is by 
> far the easiest but I'm hoping some "simplification" could be made to set up 
> TW5 on both these sites.Wizard @Danielo is working on stuff for which he 
> recommends CloudAnt . I would guess this can host a 
> TW5 also and in which case people might benefit from the other stuff Danielo 
> is working on for that context (see NoteSelf).
> 
> <:-)
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[tw] Dropbox to discontinue HTML rendering

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

In this morning's mail from Dropbox:



>
> *We’re writing to let you know that we’ll be discontinuing the ability to 
> render HTML content in-browser via shared links or Public Folder. If you're 
> using Dropbox shared links to host HTML files for a website, the content 
> will no longer display in-browser.Please note that this change will take 
> effect for your account on October 3, 2016, and only impacts how shared 
> files are displayed on the web. Your files will remain safe in Dropbox.*


I assume this means that it won't be possible to host your TW out on the 
net.

Mark

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[tw] Dropbox no longer serving HTMTL files?

[Steven Schneider]

Has anyone received this email from Dropbox:

We’re writing to let you know that we’ll be discontinuing the ability to 
render HTML content in-browser via shared links or Public Folder. 

If you're using Dropbox shared links to host HTML files for a website, the 
content will no longer display in-browser.

Please note that this change will take effect for your account on October 
3, 2016, and only impacts how shared files are displayed on the web. Your 
files will remain safe in Dropbox.

Thanks for being a loyal Dropbox user.

-The Dropbox Team

I have a paid account, pre-2012 with a public folder, so perhaps I'm 
exempt? But this seems like a problem for those of us who use DropBox to 
serve TW files. Any alternatives out there that folks are familiar with?

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[tw] DropBox

[wardjh]

Hello. 

I am a student just learning TiddlyWiki for a college course. 

I have noticed that when running some scripts in my TiddlyWiki they seem to 
work on my local drive. When uploaded to Dropbox they don't seem to work. 

When I uploaded the same TiddlyWiki file to my server the scripts worked 
great. 

See the examples:  


   - My Dropbox TiddlyWiki 
   

   - My server TiddlyWiki 
   
Notice the twitter follow script on my server TiddlyWiki on the bottom of 
my landing page on both TiddlyWikis
This would make me believe that we are very limited how Dropbox is as a 
host.

Any thoughts on if  there might be a work around in Dropbox, as other 
students don't have the option of having their own server. 

Thanks, 

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Re: [tw] Dropbox link

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi

See the documentation here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Sharing%20a%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Dropbox

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:22 AM,  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have created my first tiddlyWiki mywiki.html and saved it in my dropbox
> and shared it with a few within a work project.
> However, the dropbox link I get to mywiki.html leads to some preview with
> lot of html code, not to the actual wiki.
> Has anyone come across this problem?
>
> Thankful for any suggestion.
>
> Pär
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[tw] Dropbox link

[p . hakansson]

Hi,
I have created my first tiddlyWiki mywiki.html and saved it in my dropbox 
and shared it with a few within a work project.
However, the dropbox link I get to mywiki.html leads to some preview with 
lot of html code, not to the actual wiki.
Has anyone come across this problem?

Thankful for any suggestion.

Pär

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[tw] Dropbox issue

[Alex Hough]

Dear All,

I've noticed that my TW in a public dropbox is not working how it used
to anyone know anything about this?

best wishes

Alex

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[tw] dropbox

[Kim Skatun]

I have problem loading a picture from dropbox into an iframe or image 
tag. I found that link from google search, however i dont know how to 
implement it into a tiddler:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11321361/how-to-do-dropbox-authentication-in-a-single-page-app-without-opening-a-new-wind

Here is my tiddler:

Pictures of example kitchen made by Jane Cui can be seen 
[[here|https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vrwi712106d48kp/zDbcur-tFo]]
Here are the models that I personally like:

[img[[https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vrwi712106d48kp/k9zAyJ93av/LH-LA024.jpg]] 

and it should be combined with the island from this kitchen:

window.parent.AppController.authenticationComplete();


authenticationCompleted = function() {
 // [snipp]
 $("iframe#loginwrapper").remove();
}
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vrwi712106d48kp/k9zAyJ93av/LH-LA024.jpg " 
width=100% height=500>



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Re: [tw] Dropbox sync

[Jeremy Ruston]

> Is it possible to sync the contents on my TiddlyWiki with Dropbox -
> this would be useful as Ipad version just been released so it would be
> nice to share the content across devices.

You may be interested in these two iPad apps that give you a way to
use TiddlyWiki in your DropBox:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twedit/id409607956?mt=8
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tiddlynotes/id465930290?mt=8

Otherwise, as Hans says, you can straightforwardly get a read-only
view of TiddlyWiki files in your DropBox.

TiddlyWiki5 will indeed soon give a lot more flexibility in terms of
letting you store tiddlers as individual files in your dropbox, but
it's not yet in a usable state for end users.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw] Dropbox sync

[Terry]

Is it possible to sync the contents on my TiddlyWiki with Dropbox -
this would be useful as Ipad version just been released so it would be
nice to share the content across devices.

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[tw] DropBox TW : publishing and including for groups on the "public" Dropbox

[Bauwe Bijl]

Hi everybody

This time the export html (pure store) and a include tiddlers
tiddlywiki is worked out on the public side op DropBox ... so anyone
interested can join in ... from your local public DropBox folder!

I started a new post about dropbox and tw...
New because here is one of the options we explored and worked out..the
other post is about exploring more optionsthis is just one that
works -ish.

To make things work you need the following conditions...

1) DropBox installed on your PC
2) inside the Public folder a folder named : DropBoxPublisher
3) the DropBox PUBLISHER TiddlyWiki  inside that folder [1]

About the DropBox PUBLISHER (publishnotes.html):
This is a very simplified TiddlyWiki ... configured to work with the
including "public tw".
(since "notes" are "hip" @april... I was curious how such would
work ... so I made a basic NoteTiddlyWiki ...mockup...working a
little)

features:
only 1 type of tiddlers can be created (tagged "note" is default ... a
la newJournal)
Autosafe to "backup" is true
no sidebar/tabs etc.. just a list for the tiddlers tagged
"note" (tweaker bookmarklet can be used to rip the tw apart)
No option to set siteTitle etc. ... use as is
Export plugin installed ... so a export html file will be created in
the:
 /Public/DropBoxPublisher/  (if publishnotes.html is also there !
important)

You can download the Notepublisher (publishnotes.html [1] ) here:

Note Publisher
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html
(save as - html only ... )

More info is inside the PublishNotes TiddlyWiki (publishnotes.html)
links:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html#PublishNotes

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html#TiddlyWiki


What happens:
as you can see ... all urls from DropBox folder /Public//
DropBoxPublisher/
are similarapart from that number
Alex: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1316865/DropBoxPublisher/export.html
Bauwe: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/export.html

This is because the default path of the export plugin is build up that
way (I adjusted the plugin so the default option is the PureStore to
export

So if you create tiddlers (Notes) and tag them with your name we can
Include them in lists inside the Include TiddlyWiki
So you "publish" in there via your own desktopfolder (all possible
since it's the same domain)

You can reach that tiddlywiki here:
TiddlyWiki DropBox Includer
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html

At the moment TiddlyWiki DropBox Includer  [2] is Recieving:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1316865/DropBoxPublisher/export.html (tag
"alex")
and
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/export.html (tag
"bauwe")

You can also check in the TiddlyWiki DropBox Includer's IncludeList
what urls are included.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html#IncludeList

Everybody is invited to post tiddlers via this method in their
DropBox
... just have the paths ok and post me the url of your:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/ [your unique number here ] /DropBoxPublisher/
export.html
and tell me which name you add to the tags (just post here ... like
the rest of the "Public" DropBox url's of TiddlyWiki's are posted in
this group.

Next:
Also the Includer
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html
can be downloaded (all the urls and include plugin inside) so
developers can give a twist on the workings...explore ideas (ask for
more tags etc.)..add scripts...explore and brake
I used a vanilla tw as Includeralso interesting how people would
shape that to their needs...
These new includers.html's  can be linked in this group again.

Last ...
I'm aware of the over-simplified concepts used here ...it's about
giving "shapes" to an idea.
... and inspiring others ... even if you dislike (also that generates
ideas)

Enjoy!

Bauwe

[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html
[2] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html

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[tw] Dropbox + Pyndexer + Tiddlywiki

[Iggy]

Hi everybody,

1.- As a Dropbox user, I was looking for a script or program that
could create an HTML list of the files and folders out of the files
and folders in my Dropbox public folder. I found Pyndexer, which does
very simple its work (at least in a Mac), including all folders,
subfolders and files in the public Dropbox folder.

Pyndexer: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/552/pyndexer/README-FIRST.html

I was wondering if anybody has come out with a plugin, macro o similar
for Tiddlywiki, which, whether by using Pyndexer or any other script,
could automatically create tiddlers for each file within the Dropbox
public folder, and include, in each of the tiddlers created, the
public link to the file, as provided by Dropbox. Ideally that would be
something generating something like this:

-TIDDLER TITLE: the file name
-TIDDLER TEXT: the public link to the file, as provided by Dropbox.
-TIDDLER TAG: the name of the folder in which the file is placed

2.- If not possible a plugin like that, do you recommend a quick way
in order to, once I have created an HTML list of files with Pyndexer,
get all the links in that HTML file and create the tiddlers to each
file?

Thanks. Regards

Iggy.

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