Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark

In fact it is ToDoNow that breaks the accesskey functionality. According to 
https://dequeuniversity.com/rules/axe/1.1/accesskeys accesskey codes must 
be unique on the page. This is not the case when you have ToDoNow open - it 
comes with two save buttons that are identical with the standard save 
button in the right side bar. Obviously if you have three buttons using 
accesskey s, Firefox activates none of them, even if they are identical. 

So the solution for you would be to remove unused buttons or build your own 
and only add the accesskey to this (your own) version. (You can close 
ToDoNow and possibly other tiddlers with save buttons in them, but leave 
the side bar open. Then the accesskey works.)

Good luck!
Thomas

Am Freitag, 6. Oktober 2017 20:52:11 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Windows 7, Firefox 56 (64 bit)
> Plugins: All the ones from TodoNow plus a couple others:
>
> $:/plugins/ahahn/tinka 
> $:/plugins/bj/tiddlyclip 
> $:/plugins/kixam/datepicker 
> $:/plugins/kixam/moment 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/Clipboard 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/details 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/EditorCounter 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/EditorCounter-0.3.1-backup 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/listreveal 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/listreveal-0.1.7-backup 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/reminders 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/rpn 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/todonow 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/todonow-0.9.8-backup 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/todonow-1.0.1-backup 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/todonow/outlook 
> $:/plugins/tgrosinger/tw5-checklist 
> $:/plugins/tobibeer/split 
>
> The technique I'm referring to is here: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/OJQ0yRq4zog/DqCXRmWxAgAJ
>
> The key stroke I'm using is accesskey "s" which maps to alt-shift-S on 
> Windows.
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2017 at 11:28:17 AM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark 
>>
>> Could you supply additional information please? 
>> – operating system 
>> – browser 
>> – exact key combination (? + s) 
>> – plugins installed 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Thomas 
>
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark 

Could you supply additional information please?
– operating system
– browser
– exact key combination (? + s)
– plugins installed

Thank you
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark

Thanks for breaking my stuff – this led to a new and better version, 
hardened against single quote attacks. 

Quotes – single ' and double " – can be used in task titles now (do not put 
" at the end though)
*hint: a prime ′ is not a straight-apostrophe ' or a printer's apostrophe ’*
   
   - listreveal updated to version 0.2.1
   - reminders updated to version 0.1.4

Both https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html and https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html are up 
to date.

Happy quoting,
Thomas

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

O.k. Workaround first: You can 
Compare File’s Sizes
while I am hunting the bug. 

Happy apostrophing
-t

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

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Ciao Mark S.

I am in awe of your programming, debugging & analytic skills. I would not 
want to meet you on a frosty night in Huddersfield to discuss either foo or 
bar.

Do you have time for a day job too? :-)

Interested,
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Thanks, Mark, that's helpful!
-t

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I was able to reproduce it on your original. It has to do partially with an 
apostrophe in the text.

Change "Compare Files Sizes" to "Compare File's Sizes"

Move the item down to "waiting"

Change the date stamp to today.

The error will occur. If you have a draft of the problematic tiddler open, 
then you will get two error sets. If you change the deadline to a future 
date, the error will disappear again. 

HTH
Mark

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:57:39 AM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mark, any details about the date? Far in the future or in the past? 
> Hour set or only date? 
> I will change date calculations from my rather hacky first attempt to a 
> better system sooner or later. But for the moment more details would be 
> helpful because I have not encountered something similar lately. 
>
> -t
>
> Mark wrote:
> The problem disappeared when I removed a deadline on one of my items. But 
> I suspect the problem relates to calculating deadlines and will likely 
> return under the right (e.g. wrong) conditions.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Thomas & Mark S.

FWIW, I *never ever* had anything like that happen over months of usage. 

Was I under the delusion that Thomas had solved all problems already :-).

Mark: Its likely a specific combo? Can you replicate do you think?

Interested.
Josiah


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark, any details about the date? Far in the future or in the past? Hour
set or only date?
I will change date calculations from my rather hacky first attempt to a
better system sooner or later. But for the moment more details would be
helpful because I have not encountered something similar lately.

-t

Mark wrote:
The problem disappeared when I removed a deadline on one of my items. But I
suspect the problem relates to calculating deadlines and will likely return
under the right (e.g. wrong) conditions.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

My Todo is majorly broken at the moment. See the image. This happened once 
when I first started but I thought I had just configured items out of 
order. Now I'm thinking it has something to do with the way deadlines are 
saved and/or recorded.

Suggestions?
Mark

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Well, you are absolutely right, Josiah.
I think I will put this on my (very long) list (with high priority though)
and work in that direction during the next revisions.

All the best!
Thomas

@TiddlyTweeter  schrieb am Mo. 11. Sep. 2017 um
11:31:

> Ciao Thomas
>
>
> *SUGGESTION - GO ALL THE WAY WITH "LANGUAGE" TIDDLERS?*
> I noticed that *some parts of ToDoNow have HARD-CODED ENGLISH *...
> section titles for instance, and a couple of slogans.
>
> Given that you have already have modularised language well would it not be
> better that ALL language use was modularised?
>
> It also has the advantage that a user like me could customise a new
> "language" tiddler so that on upgrades I no longer have to manually hack
> the interface to get it looking as I need :-).
>
> I'll shut-up after this for a bit :-)
>
> Tchüss
> Josiah
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

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Ciao Thomas


*SUGGESTION - GO ALL THE WAY WITH "LANGUAGE" TIDDLERS?*
I noticed that *some parts of ToDoNow have HARD-CODED ENGLISH *... section 
titles for instance, and a couple of slogans.

Given that you have already have modularised language well would it not be 
better that ALL language use was modularised? 

It also has the advantage that a user like me could customise a new 
"language" tiddler so that on upgrades I no longer have to manually hack 
the interface to get it looking as I need :-).

I'll shut-up after this for a bit :-) 

Tchüss
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Thomas



*SUGGESTIONS ON APPEARANCE*1 - *Option To Hide The Head Area: *In line with 
idea its an INTERFACE ... Could there be a User Config Option to "Hide the 
Header" ... what I mean is that at the moment on my ToDo Now its head looks 
like this ...



But I'd prefer it looked like this, without the header ...



2 - *Background Colour On Outlook*: IMO this would look* better if the 
background colour for the items themselves were also YELLOW*. That would 
also make it consistent. so ...

- White background ToDo
- Grey background ToDoNow. 
- Yellow background Outlook. 

Right now it looks like this ...



Tchüss
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

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Ciao Thomas

*DATE DISPLAY*

Josiah:
>>
> *Date Display* -- Not sure if its possible but I don't read dates well in 
>> the format "2017-09-07". Any chance of the display format: *day: date: 
>> mon: year? *E.g. like this (in English) 
>>
>
Thomas: 
>
I hope the new explanations on the *configuration* tab will help you to 
> create your own "language" with your desired formatting.
>

That's *excellent* and was EASY. Till looking at those files I had not 
realised you could configure so much through the "language" packs. 

*Its perhaps worth mentioning that configurability more upfront. *


*DEADLINE TIME DISPLAY IN TODONOW SECTION*

Josiah:
>> Alarm Time Display? -- At the moment you have to hover on an alarm to see 
>> the time setting. I'd find it more useful if the time of an alarm, once 
>> set, was displayed. E.g. like this ...17:45
>>
>
Thomas:
>
Is it correct you would like to see this on alerts/reminders directly? 
> (Will consider this for next update.)
>
 

> You should only have one single item in the …Now section ;–)
>

FYI, it often happens to me that I have 2 or three deadlines to meet ON THE 
SAME DAY. I don't think that is so unusual :-). 

I have to know what is at *14:30* and what is at *15:32*. Its not JUST the 
order that matters. Its that I need to SEE the  time deadline--so I can 
mentally calculate "I have 45 minutes to finish this ..." (Before I light 
another cigarette :-)

I'd like to see times in the ToDoNow section like THIS where an Alarm is 
set ...

[ ]  TITLE  15:32 Sun 10 Sep 17 (Stopwatch) (Priority) etc

Hope this is clear.

Tchüss
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Ciao Josiah, thanks for your detailed feeback!

Here some thougts from my side:

> *SUGGESTIONS*
>
> *Date Display* -- Not sure if its possible but I don't read dates well in 
> the format "2017-09-07". Any chance of the display format: *day: date: 
> mon: year? *E.g. like this (in English) 
>
I hope the new explanations on the *configuration* tab will help you to 
create your own "language" with your desired formatting.

*Alarm Time Display? *-- At the moment you have to hover on an alarm to see 
> the time setting. I'd find it more useful if the time of an alarm, once 
> set, was displayed. E.g. like this ...
>
>
> *17:45*
>
Is it correct you would like to see this on alerts/reminders directly? 
(Will consider this for next update.)

The point is that its a deadline. *Once you move it to the ToDoNow section 
> I'd like it displayed *because on that one day you may have, for 
> instance, 3 deadlines. Its important to be able to see them in that context.
>
You should only have one single item in the …Now section ;–)
If you sort the list below according to deadlines the other tasks for the 
day should stay in context. Or you can dispay them in the "today" outlook 
list.

*Spacing* -- Whilst ToDoNow is minimalist in design I think you are 
sometimes over generous with spacing ... Like this that occurs between 
sections... Could it be tightened?

I will have a look at this for the next release – I am not a designer 
though.


*Create / Edit in Popup or modal?* -- I may have suggested this before. 
Since ToDoNow is not just an app, its an INTERFACE, I'm wondering IF when 
you invoke the full editor it can be in a POPUP or MODAL.

You have suggested this before :) I will try the DoneClose way first.

Keep the feedback coming, even if I am slow processing it!

All the best,
-t

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark, thanks for your thoughts!

My comments on these:

As a thought for future implementations, perhaps consider offering a 
> drop-down list of custom filters.
>
The user-filter functionality is meant to cover basic needs of advanced 
users. I have no plans on expanding this feature any further because 
advanced users could do that themselves ;–)
As an alternative you could use the filter tab of the TW advanced search – 
I think it has an expandable list of filters.

I'm wondering, did you develop or find any date comparison filters in your 
> application? That is, is there any way to make a filter that will compare 
> dates, and show/hide certain tiddlers based on dates?
>
There is the days filter operator (see tiddlywiki.com) 
,
 
I use it for my Outlook functionality that shows tasks for 
today/tomorrow/next 7 days. It selects time periods starting from today. So 
to select not this week (next 7 days) but next week (+8 up to +14 days) you 
would use:

+[days:todo-deadline[14]!days:todo-deadline[7]]

I will add this to my filter examples and I made a pull request to optimise 
the docs and example 
 of this feature 
on tiddlywiki.com. 

On another topic, I'm wondering how (or if) people are implementing GTD 
> concepts. In particular, if projects are just tagged tiddlers, how does 
> anyone implement the GTD idea of a next action? 
>

> That is, if there are multiple tiddlers associated with a Project/Tag, how 
> is one particular one made the focus of attention?
>

I have to admit that I have never read a book on GTD concepts, I started to 
call my solution a GTD thing after seeing users refer to it using this 
term. It might not be correct in the sense of the original GTD system.
On the web I found differing interpretations/tips on the subject of next 
action. One was about processing tasks until they are ready to do – I think 
my flexible priorities would be one possibility to manage this, e.g. you 
could define a priority "W" (needs work) and use numbers to prioritize 
tasks that are ready. Would that answer your question?
Another article was about organizing stuff to put them under different 
domains (@home, @office, …) or projects. As you say I use tags for 
projects. For the domains I use different lists (in separate wikis).
If I missed a concept of next action please let me know!

Have a nice sunday!
Thomas



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks Thomas!

As a thought for future implementations, perhaps consider offering a 
drop-down list of custom filters.

I'm wondering, did you develop or find any date comparison filters in your 
application? That is, is there any way to make a filter that will compare 
dates, and show/hide certain tiddlers based on dates?

On another topic, I'm wondering how (or if) people are implementing GTD 
concepts. In particular, if projects are just tagged tiddlers, how does 
anyone implement the GTD idea of a next action?

That is, if there are multiple tiddlers associated with a Project/Tag, how 
is one particular one made the focus of attention?

Thanks!
Mark

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 12:26:07 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Finally I am ready to officially release a new update and additional 
> extensions for my GTD solution called ToDoNow. 
>
> *TL;DR*
>
>- The biggest innovation is a new plugin called *Reminders* that can 
>show alerts and reminders for tasks with a deadline. 
>- Many other things have been improved, simplified or added as options.
>- All useful combinations of plugins are *available as Bundles *now, 
>kudos to Mario and Josiah for this great invention!
>
>
> New in Version 1.0.7
>
>- New Addon: Outlook
>   - Outlook shows tasks for today/tomorrow/next 7 days – comes with 
>   translations en, de, dk
>- Support for new/updated Plugins
>   - *Reminders: I built a new plugin 
>   
>  
>   for this, in theory it could be used for any deadline fields with TW 
> dates 
>   in them …  *
>   - Datepicker  0.5.2 and 
>   moments.js (info)  2.18.1 by kixam
>   - Checklist by Tony Grosinger  
>   in the great new version 0.0.14
>  - hint: use tab and space bar to navigate, activate and delete 
>  subtasks
>   - Download options
>   - Bundles  for simple to 
>   sophisticated solutions (see sidebar, *Bundles* tab) – download as 
>   JSON, throw on your wiki, reload
>   - Demo/download page for the complete solution: 
>   https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html (kind of an edition)
>   - Plugin info: new tabs for configuration and usage 
>- *Danish* translation by *Birthe – thank you!*
>- Documentation update
>- and possibly other cool features I forgot to list here
>
> As allways: Be sure to have a backup ready before you try this, even if 
> it’s working flawless for me and other testers. 
> If you update from a prior version you might have to delete local copies 
> of shadow tiddlers. Update all plugins!
>
>
> Found a bug or a feature? Please report here! – There is still potential 
> in many details, I hope some of you (again) will help me to dig it up. 
>
> And last but not least: A special *thank you* to my power user Josiah – 
> some of your hints are still on my personal todo list.
>
>
> Happy Do-ing!
>
> Thomas
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hello early adopters ;–)

There is an update for you: 

Version 1.0.8
   
   - User filters are back – better than ever!
   - Configuration info update – how to translate/adjust date and time 
   formats (it’s meant to be easy – let me know if you need help)
   
Both https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html and https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html are up 
to date.


Thanks, good night & all the best!

Thomas

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Thomas

A few comments, some suggestions & a minor bug note ...

*COMMENTS*

*"Alarms" -- *Worked seamlessly for me. I been using it over a month. Very 
good. No issues. Incredibly useful.

Because I close the TW every night, the next morning on opening I see 
alerts for everything urgent I need to.

*Outlook -- *Neat feature. Helps orientate. Minimal footprint. Its 
practically very useful to me when I get in a mess with my schedule and 
need to quickly see what I need to put right.


*SUGGESTIONS*

*Date Display* -- Not sure if its possible but I don't read dates well in 
the format "2017-09-07". Any chance of the display format: *day: date: mon: 
year? *E.g. like this (in English) ...



*Mon 7 Sep 17*
*Alarm Time Display? *-- At the moment you have to hover on an alarm to see 
the time setting. I'd find it more useful if the time of an alarm, once 
set, was displayed. E.g. like this ...



*17:45*
The point is that its a deadline. *Once you move it to the ToDoNow section 
I'd like it displayed *because on that one day you may have, for instance, 
3 deadlines. Its important to be able to see them in that context.

NOTE: I personally *do NOT need alarm times showing in the ToDo or ToDoDone 
sections*.

*Spacing* -- Whilst ToDoNow is minimalist in design I think you are 
sometimes over generous with spacing ... Like this that occurs between 
sections... Could it be tightened?



*Create / Edit in Popup or modal?* -- I may have suggested this before. 
Since ToDoNow is not just an app, its an INTERFACE, I'm wondering IF when 
you invoke the full editor it can be in a POPUP or MODAL.

The point is that IF you go the normal route to creating a Tiddler then it 
breaks the visual minimalism of the interface. Since ALL Tiddlers created 
through the ToDoNow interface immediately appear in the ToDoNow interface 
leaving them on screen as independent Tiddlers is redundant. 

I guess an easier way than coding for pop-ups might be to enforce only the 
SAVE & CLOSE button on all Tiddler creation / edits (which you recently 
worked on). That would be a workable solution too.



*BUGS?*
Only thing I found so far ... that Mark S. commented already on is that the 
"User Filter" is missing on the page even though it can be configured ...

Thank you for an absolutely brilliant piece of work.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao readers ...

I think Thomas has made with the listreveal / ToDoNow combo more than an 
app--its a really good instance of an INTERFACE. Even if the To Do's are 
not your thing its worth looking at. Its rich, yet still intuitively easy 
to use. 

I think the mechanism could be used as a BLUEPRINT for lots of Apps.

I'm considering using it as model for an interface for writing Screenplays. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mark

Very impressive!
>

Thank you!

It appears that the button for the custom filter has disappeared.
>

You are right. I will try to reactivate it.

Also appears (haven't tested in detail) that if the tab for the page isn't
> opened when a timer triggers, that it won't open when you return to the
> tab.
>

In fact there is no timer running in the background. Reminders and alerts
apear when TW re-renders the page, so you have to be active – e.g. switch a
tab, use the search field or interact with the wiki in any other way. So TW
usage is the trigger.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: Reminders and Alerts for ToDoNow

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Very impressive!

It appears that the button for the custom filter has disappeared. 

Also appears (haven't tested in detail) that if the tab for the page isn't 
opened when a timer triggers, that it won't open when you return to the 
tab. 

Mark

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 12:26:07 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Finally I am ready to officially release a new update and additional 
> extensions for my GTD solution called ToDoNow. 
>
> *TL;DR*
>
>- The biggest innovation is a new plugin called *Reminders* that can 
>show alerts and reminders for tasks with a deadline. 
>- Many other things have been improved, simplified or added as options.
>- All useful combinations of plugins are *available as Bundles *now, 
>kudos to Mario and Josiah for this great invention!
>
>
> New in Version 1.0.7
>
>- New Addon: Outlook
>   - Outlook shows tasks for today/tomorrow/next 7 days – comes with 
>   translations en, de, dk
>- Support for new/updated Plugins
>   - *Reminders: I built a new plugin 
>   
>  
>   for this, in theory it could be used for any deadline fields with TW 
> dates 
>   in them …  *
>   - Datepicker  0.5.2 and 
>   moments.js (info)  2.18.1 by kixam
>   - Checklist by Tony Grosinger  
>   in the great new version 0.0.14
>  - hint: use tab and space bar to navigate, activate and delete 
>  subtasks
>   - Download options
>   - Bundles  for simple to 
>   sophisticated solutions (see sidebar, *Bundles* tab) – download as 
>   JSON, throw on your wiki, reload
>   - Demo/download page for the complete solution: 
>   https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html (kind of an edition)
>   - Plugin info: new tabs for configuration and usage 
>- *Danish* translation by *Birthe – thank you!*
>- Documentation update
>- and possibly other cool features I forgot to list here
>
> As allways: Be sure to have a backup ready before you try this, even if 
> it’s working flawless for me and other testers. 
> If you update from a prior version you might have to delete local copies 
> of shadow tiddlers. Update all plugins!
>
>
> Found a bug or a feature? Please report here! – There is still potential 
> in many details, I hope some of you (again) will help me to dig it up. 
>
> And last but not least: A special *thank you* to my power user Josiah – 
> some of your hints are still on my personal todo list.
>
>
> Happy Do-ing!
>
> Thomas
>

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