[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi An option was introduced, in version 5.0.13-beta, to delimit the value specified in an attribute to a widget between triple quotes. This turns out to be extremely useful, in particular when creating a new tiddler from scratch -- as in the 'Stacked Widgets' example. It is now possible, not only to retain the formatting of the wikitext to which the text field will be set, but also to include code (such as an enclosed widget button), within this value. Take a look at the example at the bottom of the 'Stacked Widgets' tiddler at: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com regards On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:01:10 AM UTC+2, Matabele wrote: Hi I have been working on a couple of widget plugins which address problems I was having when developing TW5 applications -- they may be found here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com The $setfield widget was my response to the need to initiate more than one function with one button. Starting out with a mechanism borrowed from the linkcatcher widget, I developed a pair of complementary widgets that could be assembled in a stack around a button widget -- the title of the target widget being passed through the stack with an event parameter. The $maketid widget was my response to the spurious javascript errors I was experiencing with the $newtiddler widget. My efforts to address the error by modifying the $newtiddler widget failed, and I resorted to rewriting the widget by adopting the mechanism borrowed from the linkcatcher widget. This appears to have cured the bad behaviour of the $newtiddler widget, at least in the context in which I was experiencing problems. I have constructed the widgets in such a way that they may be used together in the same stack. Other widgets could be developed using the same mechanism which could then be added to the widget stack (the $fieldmangler and $linkcatcher widgets are partially compatible.) I would welcome any feedback with respect the concept of the widgets, and any ideas with respect modifying the code to broaden the context of their application. regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Thanks for creating widgets to do exactly what I'd been puzzling over! One thing I still can't figure out: Is is possible to create a single button that simultaneously: 1. sets field info AND 2. removes a (specified) tag? Thanks! cmari -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Knowing that it was possible gave me the fortitude to continue with my
trial-and-error flailing!
I still don't quite understand the pattern for which macro to use first and
when to add which message where, but in case it's helpful for someone else,
here's my working solution to accomplish the following with a single button:
1. set a field
2. set another field
3. add one tag
4. remove another
$setfield set=!!field1 setTo=value1
$setfield set=!!field2 setTo=value2
$mangletags find=oldtag message=tw-set-field
$mangletags add=newtag
$button message=tw-mangle-tagsbutton text here/$button
/$mangletags/$mangletags/$setfield/$setfield
(I haven't included a target because I put this in a tiddler called
MyButton and then use it inside other tiddlers, e.g., {{!!title||MyButton}}
)
This is really helpful - thanks!
cmari
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:42:20 AM UTC-7, Matabele wrote:
Hi cmari
Yes -- using the $setfield and $mangletags widgets available here:
http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/
$mangletags find=tag-to-remove
$setfield set=!!field-to-set setTo=value-for-field
message=tw-mangle-tags
$button message=tw-set-field param=target-tiddlerSet/$button
/$setfield/$mangletags
Have a look at the Demos on the site -- the code should give you some
ideas on how to use the widgets. The 'Another Demo', in particular, does
something similar to your needs.
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:26:24 PM UTC+2, cmari wrote:
Thanks for creating widgets to do exactly what I'd been puzzling over!
One thing I still can't figure out: Is is possible to create a single
button that simultaneously:
1. sets field info AND
2. removes a (specified) tag?
Thanks!
cmari
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi cmari
I don't know what you are trying to achieve, but there's also a 'find and
replace' option for the $mangletags widget. Your code using two widgets
will add 'newtag' regardless of whether the tiddler was previously tagged
with 'oldtag' -- with the find and replace option, 'newtag' will be added
only to those tiddlers that were previously tagged 'oldtag'.
The syntax in this case: $mangletags find=oldtag add=newtag
The widgets may be used in any order -- however, the default behaviour in
most cases is to pass on the received message to the next widget in the
stack. it is easier, therefore, to stack widgets of the same type adjacent
to one another -- changing the message only when the widget type changes
(as you have done.) The $maketid widget is the exception, as the
parameter caught by the widget becomes the default for the template
(maintaining compatibility with the standard 'tw-new-tiddler' message) --
and the generated parameter is set to the value of the 'title' attribute.
All of the other widgets pass on the title of the target tiddler as the
parameter to the message by default (unless changed with 'param='), and
pass on the same message by default (unless changed with 'message='.)
Hope this better explains how to use the widgets.
regards
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:33:28 PM UTC+2, cmari wrote:
Knowing that it was possible gave me the fortitude to continue with my
trial-and-error flailing!
I still don't quite understand the pattern for which macro to use first
and when to add which message where, but in case it's helpful for someone
else, here's my working solution to accomplish the following with a single
button:
1. set a field
2. set another field
3. add one tag
4. remove another
$setfield set=!!field1 setTo=value1
$setfield set=!!field2 setTo=value2
$mangletags find=oldtag message=tw-set-field
$mangletags add=newtag
$button message=tw-mangle-tagsbutton text here/$button
/$mangletags/$mangletags/$setfield/$setfield
(I haven't included a target because I put this in a tiddler called
MyButton and then use it inside other tiddlers, e.g., {{!!title||MyButton}}
)
This is really helpful - thanks!
cmari
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Still a bit confusing to me how the parameter parameter is used. I think I will read the last documentation of your widgets again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Danielo Looks like I should write some documentation on how the title of the target tiddler is passed through the stack -- when I've worked it out myself I shall do so :-) In general, the parameter to the received message is understood by the widgets to represent the title of the target tiddler -- the exception is the $maketid widget, which understands the parameter to the 'tw-new-tiddler' message to represent the template (this, to maintain compatibility with the standard message.) Unless the user overrides this default value for the parameter with the 'param=' attribute, the same value will be passed on to the next widget in the stack -- this is the case even if the message is changed with the 'message=' attribute. I think I now have all of the widgets working correctly with this scheme. regards On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:51:15 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: Still a bit confusing to me how the parameter parameter is used. I think I will read the last documentation of your widgets again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Thanks for that explanation - very helpful! Thanks also for the reminder
about the find and replace possibility. My solution evolved from one in
which I had figured out how to use setfield to add a tag - so I had that
piece already and was really focusing on shoehorning in tag removal. Now
that I've eliminated an entire $mangletags the whole thing is even more
satisfyingly elegant
cmari
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:14:13 PM UTC-7, Matabele wrote:
Hi cmari
I don't know what you are trying to achieve, but there's also a 'find and
replace' option for the $mangletags widget. Your code using two widgets
will add 'newtag' regardless of whether the tiddler was previously tagged
with 'oldtag' -- with the find and replace option, 'newtag' will be added
only to those tiddlers that were previously tagged 'oldtag'.
The syntax in this case: $mangletags find=oldtag add=newtag
The widgets may be used in any order -- however, the default behaviour in
most cases is to pass on the received message to the next widget in the
stack. it is easier, therefore, to stack widgets of the same type adjacent
to one another -- changing the message only when the widget type changes
(as you have done.) The $maketid widget is the exception, as the
parameter caught by the widget becomes the default for the template
(maintaining compatibility with the standard 'tw-new-tiddler' message) --
and the generated parameter is set to the value of the 'title' attribute.
All of the other widgets pass on the title of the target tiddler as the
parameter to the message by default (unless changed with 'param='), and
pass on the same message by default (unless changed with 'message='.)
Hope this better explains how to use the widgets.
regards
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:33:28 PM UTC+2, cmari wrote:
Knowing that it was possible gave me the fortitude to continue with my
trial-and-error flailing!
I still don't quite understand the pattern for which macro to use first
and when to add which message where, but in case it's helpful for someone
else, here's my working solution to accomplish the following with a single
button:
1. set a field
2. set another field
3. add one tag
4. remove another
$setfield set=!!field1 setTo=value1
$setfield set=!!field2 setTo=value2
$mangletags find=oldtag message=tw-set-field
$mangletags add=newtag
$button message=tw-mangle-tagsbutton text here/$button
/$mangletags/$mangletags/$setfield/$setfield
(I haven't included a target because I put this in a tiddler called
MyButton and then use it inside other tiddlers, e.g., {{!!title||MyButton}}
)
This is really helpful - thanks!
cmari
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Matabele, Thanks a lot for the widgets! I find them extremely useful to create newHere buttons and I'm presently trying to customize them. When a new tiddler is created with your widgets, it is opened in view mode. How to get it in edit mode, like the regular new tiddler button ? Regards, Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Molina There's an 'edit=' attribute available -- in the absence of this attribute, the default setting (edit=yes) should open the tiddler for editing. With edit=show' -- the widget should navigate to the new tiddler without opening, and with edit=no -- the new tiddler should be created in the background (all navigation suppressed.) I have just tested again in a standalone v5.0.12-beta, and the behaviour is as expected -- if you are getting some other behaviour, please let me know with details of TW version, browser etc. Whilst testing, I noticed that although the new tiddler appears in the search results, it fails to appear in the 'Recent' tab -- this was not the case when I was developing the widget with v5.0.10 on node.js :-( regards On Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:50:57 PM UTC+2, Alberto Molina wrote: Hi Matabele, Thanks a lot for the widgets! I find them extremely useful to create newHere buttons and I'm presently trying to customize them. When a new tiddler is created with your widgets, it is opened in view mode. How to get it in edit mode, like the regular new tiddler button ? Regards, Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Works fine. Thanks! Alberto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Whilst testing, I noticed that although the new tiddler appears in the search results, it fails to appear in the 'Recent' tab -- this was not the case when I was developing the widget with v5.0.10 on node.js :-( With additional testing, I can confirm that a misbehaviour has arisen with the change from v5.0.10 to v5.0.12. After updating to v5.0.12, the title of the new tiddler appears in the 'Open' tab and in search results, but is absent from the 'Recent' tab (in v5.0.10, all was well.) Does anyone know what has changed in v5.0.12 to cause this, and what remedy is necessary? The code of the navigator widget appears unchanged and I have failed to locate the change causing the misbehaviour. regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
HI Matabele,
maybe you do not need to regenerate the tw-set-field event, ie your code
this.sendMessage = tw-set-field;
if(this.catchMessage) {
this.sendMessage = this.catchMessage;
}
this.dispatchEvent({type: this.sendMessage,param: this.sendParam});
can be replace with
return true;
The at present you do not return anything from your handleFieldSet
function, which is the same as returning null (which is the same as false
in this case), this stops the event from propagating to the parent widget.
- returning true will allow propagation (and so you do not need to call
dispatchEvent()).
all the best
BJ
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:32:05 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
Hi Danielo
Thanks, that would be appreciated -- it would be much cleaner to stack
successive $setfield widgets without having to intersperse $fieldset
widgets.
regards
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:26:48 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event
propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not
sure about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a
while ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi BJ
Many thanks - precisely the answer I was looking for -- I will modify the
plugin accordingly and publish when I have done some testing.
Does this work reliably with all browsers?
regards
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:27:16 AM UTC+2, BJ wrote:
HI Matabele,
maybe you do not need to regenerate the tw-set-field event, ie your code
this.sendMessage = tw-set-field;
if(this.catchMessage) {
this.sendMessage = this.catchMessage;
}
this.dispatchEvent({type: this.sendMessage,param: this.sendParam});
can be replace with
return true;
The at present you do not return anything from your handleFieldSet
function, which is the same as returning null (which is the same as false
in this case), this stops the event from propagating to the parent widget.
- returning true will allow propagation (and so you do not need to call
dispatchEvent()).
all the best
BJ
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:32:05 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
Hi Danielo
Thanks, that would be appreciated -- it would be much cleaner to stack
successive $setfield widgets without having to intersperse $fieldset
widgets.
regards
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:26:48 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event
propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not
sure about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a
while ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi BJ
Appears to work fine. I have updated the $setfield widget and uploaded
the new version and updated documentation to: http://wills.tiddlyspot.com/
This update retires the need for the fieldset widget, as multiple
$setfield widgets can now be placed one after the other in the stack. As
a consequence, I have removed the fieldset widget from the plugin.
Many thanks for your assistance.
regards
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:27:16 AM UTC+2, BJ wrote:
HI Matabele,
maybe you do not need to regenerate the tw-set-field event, ie your code
this.sendMessage = tw-set-field;
if(this.catchMessage) {
this.sendMessage = this.catchMessage;
}
this.dispatchEvent({type: this.sendMessage,param: this.sendParam});
can be replace with
return true;
The at present you do not return anything from your handleFieldSet
function, which is the same as returning null (which is the same as false
in this case), this stops the event from propagating to the parent widget.
- returning true will allow propagation (and so you do not need to call
dispatchEvent()).
all the best
BJ
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:32:05 PM UTC+1, Matabele wrote:
Hi Danielo
Thanks, that would be appreciated -- it would be much cleaner to stack
successive $setfield widgets without having to intersperse $fieldset
widgets.
regards
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:26:48 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event
propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not
sure about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a
while ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Matabele, just want to say thanks! Your plugin solved my problem that I had with the $newtiddler widget, where I had to predefine placeholders for fields in order to set them. Now I have all the flexibility I need, by being able to set placeholders/tags/fields. so thank you once more for your work ;) On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:01:10 AM UTC+2, Matabele wrote: Hi I have been working on a couple of widget plugins which address problems I was having when developing TW5 applications -- they may be found here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com The $setfield widget was my response to the need to initiate more than one function with one button. Starting out with a mechanism borrowed from the linkcatcher widget, I developed a pair of complementary widgets that could be assembled in a stack around a button widget -- the title of the target widget being passed through the stack with an event parameter. The $maketid widget was my response to the spurious javascript errors I was experiencing with the $newtiddler widget. My efforts to address the error by modifying the $newtiddler widget failed, and I resorted to rewriting the widget by adopting the mechanism borrowed from the linkcatcher widget. This appears to have cured the bad behaviour of the $newtiddler widget, at least in the context in which I was experiencing problems. I have constructed the widgets in such a way that they may be used together in the same stack. Other widgets could be developed using the same mechanism which could then be added to the widget stack (the $fieldmangler and $linkcatcher widgets are partially compatible.) I would welcome any feedback with respect the concept of the widgets, and any ideas with respect modifying the code to broaden the context of their application. regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Danielo Don't know the technicalities, but when I try this, I get stack overflow errors (and 'field-two' doesn't get set): $setfield set=!!field-two setTo=two $setfield set=!!field-one setTo=one message=tw-set-field $button message=tw-set-field param=TargetSet/$button /$setfield /$setfield Likely my deficient knowledge of javascript -- perhaps there's a way to fix this? regards On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:48:44 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: Hello Matabelle I succeed editing the newtiddler widget to add the hability of define tags, but I like a lot your idea of chaining widgets. Could you explain this limitation? I don't understand why : Unfortunately, $setfield widgets can not be stacked in this way, as the same message can not be sent from a widget as the message caught by the widget. A transposed $fieldset widget is, therefore, There are several widgets that does not suffer from this limitation. The link catcher widget does exactly this, chaining messages. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not sure about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a while ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Danielo Thanks, that would be appreciated -- it would be much cleaner to stack successive $setfield widgets without having to intersperse $fieldset widgets. regards On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:26:48 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: I have to digg into your code, but maybe you are not stopping the event propagation. If so your widget will get the same message twice. I'm not sure about this and I don't remember exactly how this works. I studied it a while ago and I think that I understood it then. Just let me check. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
