[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-27 Thread Tobias Beer
 Hmmm.
 And if one could programmatically / automatically do this added to the
 double click. It may be a nice work around :) It will be browser
 specific. But who knows. ...
 -m

This sounds like a neat idea. I guess Double-Clicking with a selection
might not work, but one could copy selected text in the clipboard,
then (SHIFT-)DOUBLECLICK on the tiddler which grabs the text from the
clipboard and selects the first/corresponding occurence of that
selection in the editor.

Cheers, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-27 Thread Tobias Beer
 Maybe there is some way to programatically copy the word or couple of
 words where a tiddler is clicked in view mode and then when edit mode
 is triggered a script searches for the phrase and place cursor at the
 beginning of the phrase? I just have a very elementary knowledge of
 programming and I think while it might be easy to find out the point
 where the click occurs it might not be easy to find out which words
 are displayed at that point.
 So probably a manual selection might be needed to be done by the user.
 It might go like this: A user selects a phrase by click and dragging
 the mouse and then when he clicks edit button the current selection is
 read programatically and then after edit mode is displayed a searching
 and positioning of cursor is done by the script. This may or may not
 be doable because as I said, my knowledge about this is elementary.

Sounds doable and shouldn't come with too much overhead.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-26 Thread Tobias Beer
Not that this is impossible... but I would think it's quite the
opposite from trivial.

Consider this: viewing and editing in probably every single Wiki or
CMS today simply do not go hand in hand as they might do in a WISYWIG
environment. So, you must know that what you're actually asking for is
nothing short from half the effort of creating a WYSIWYG environment.

Not even TiddlyWiki5 seems to try go down that road. It's just an
awful lot of work and code and I would think that neither the effort
nor the overhead is justified... although it might just seem nice to
have.

Perhaps in a watered down version one might be able to identify, where
- relative to the top-left corner of the tiddler someone has double-
clicked and then try to position the cursor in the editor in a line at
about that height. But I am not sure that this actually is helpful as
the markup might just incredibly differ from the generated output.

If you have tiddlers so big that finding the right spot gets hard, do
CTRL-C, enter EditMode, then hit CTRL-F followed by CTRL-V and hit F3
or ENTER or some equivalent until you are where you want to be.

My 5 cts.

Cheers, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-26 Thread Måns
Hi Tobias

 If you have tiddlers so big that finding the right spot gets hard, do
 CTRL-C, enter EditMode, then hit CTRL-F followed by CTRL-V and hit F3
 or ENTER or some equivalent until you are where you want to be.

Huh - That was a really good (and simple) tip -
I never used/knew CTRL+F, I however often use CTRL+C, click Find in
the browser and CTRL+V!
This simple shortcut will speed up things considerably!!
Sometimes/often it's just a matter of a little practical knowHow - to
make things flow...
Thanks :-)

Cheers Måns mårtensson

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-26 Thread PMario
 If you have tiddlers so big that finding the right spot gets hard, do
 CTRL-C, enter EditMode, then hit CTRL-F followed by CTRL-V and hit F3
 or ENTER or some equivalent until you are where you want to be.
Hmmm.
And if one could programmatically / automatically do this added to the
double click. It may be a nice work around :) It will be browser
specific. But who knows. ...
-m

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-26 Thread PMario
On Mar 26, 4:16 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi hi - the TWinVentor is on to sth...  ;-)
nope. sry.
don't know how to handle clunky browser interfaces :(

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-26 Thread cmari
Hi PMario, 
You may not have provided a direct solution but you gave me an idea: I use 
PhraseExpress (http://www.phraseexpress.com/), and your comment made me 
explore the possibilities for automating the search and find process.  It 
works pretty well - thanks!
cmari

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-26 Thread passingby


On Mar 26, 3:24 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:

 If you have tiddlers so big that finding the right spot gets hard, do
 CTRL-C, enter EditMode, then hit CTRL-F followed by CTRL-V and hit F3
 or ENTER or some equivalent until you are where you want to be.


Maybe there is some way to programatically copy the word or couple of
words where a tiddler is clicked in view mode and then when edit mode
is triggered a script searches for the phrase and place cursor at the
beginning of the phrase? I just have a very elementary knowledge of
programming and I think while it might be easy to find out the point
where the click occurs it might not be easy to find out which words
are displayed at that point.
So probably a manual selection might be needed to be done by the user.
It might go like this: A user selects a phrase by click and dragging
the mouse and then when he clicks edit button the current selection is
read programatically and then after edit mode is displayed a searching
and positioning of cursor is done by the script. This may or may not
be doable because as I said, my knowledge about this is elementary.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.



[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-25 Thread Mark
I'd be interested in this too. I asked the same question back in 2009
(http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/
f1deee0c783fdd9f/67ee83d8177dae24).

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.




[tw] Re: Double clicking edits tiddler... any way to have cursor drop that that point in tiddler?

2011-03-23 Thread BR
This might be possible, though it would be tricky.

I found that there is a way in javascript to place the cursor within
the text area.
   See: 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/499126/jquery-set-cursor-position-in-text-area

So we would need to:

1. Determine which part of the displayed tiddler text the user double-
clicked on. (Or at least which paragraph.
2. Translate this into a position within the tiddler source.
3. Set the cursor position.

I wonder, has anyone tried this before?

Bryan

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.