Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Niklas, I am revisiting this thread. I wonder if you could report how using TW for grounded theory turned out for you best wishes Alex On 27 July 2012 at 10:30, Niklas Wagner wrote: > I have been using Tobias Beers hastags plugin for Grounded Theory Coding. > I saved my Interview transcriptions as tiddlys and put an ! before each > timestamp so that each timestamp would make a section. then i coded(what > grounded theoy calls coding we call tagging) for categorys and put > everywhere where my informants spoke about snails a #snail, weeds a #weed > and so on. for apreciated values i put an $ like $order $beefreindly $eco. > > > > when i am using th hastag macro i get an overview about all the sections > with the hastag orderd > > hastag x > tiddler i > section a > section b > section c > > This is great and much better than WerftQDA, not to mention useng a very > expensive non free program like MaxQDA. I want to Thank Tobias for this > great Plugin, > > > > For even better usage i would propose to have the following additions > > 1) an option would be good that only shows the hastags of a certain > tiddler, so i can see the hastags in only one interview. like < TiddlerA>> > > 2) my sections a to big to see in on glace without scrolling the position > of the tag, an extra option of the hastag macro would be great that only > lists the paragraph where the hastag is in instead of the whole section. > > 2a) (low priortiy) it would be very great if by clicking on the section, > first the pragraph comes an by clicking on the paragrap the section opens. > and py clicking on the section then the whole tiddler opens on the position > of the hashtag > > 2b) (low priortiy i use the hastag plugin to find interesting sections in > my interview transcriptions that i can use for citation and writing about. > when i mark text to copy it i have to mark the text and leave the > mousecoursor outside of the textbox or it closes. > solution would be that the opening n closing of the sections is not done > by clicking on them bot by a button. > > 3) the ordering of the sections in the listing of the hastag macro dont > make a tifference between ! or !! or !!! > > when i have an subsection !!2:00 in section !003 then it is listed before > !!3:00 in section !001 . > > hastag x > tiddler i > section 2:00 > section 3:00 > > > > so it would be usefull to have the hieracy of sections in the list of the > hastag plugin like > > hastag x > tiddler i > section 001 >subsection 3:00 > section 003 >subsection 2:00 > > > > On Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47:25 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: >> >> I did some experimentation and maybe inline hashtags in your tiddler >> bodies would be helpful? >> >> http://hashtags.tiddlyspace.com >> >> (This is all experimental for now.) >> >> tb. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/PitkT9OUlx8J. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CALc1hYcx_OeoAuOrj6%3D6ShEkewH-8EqnGPw%3Dp_0ENikAVYXkHg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
I have been using Tobias Beers hastags plugin for Grounded Theory Coding. I saved my Interview transcriptions as tiddlys and put an ! before each timestamp so that each timestamp would make a section. then i coded(what grounded theoy calls coding we call tagging) for categorys and put everywhere where my informants spoke about snails a #snail, weeds a #weed and so on. for apreciated values i put an $ like $order $beefreindly $eco. when i am using th hastag macro i get an overview about all the sections with the hastag orderd hastag x tiddler i section a section b section c This is great and much better than WerftQDA, not to mention useng a very expensive non free program like MaxQDA. I want to Thank Tobias for this great Plugin, For even better usage i would propose to have the following additions 1) an option would be good that only shows the hastags of a certain tiddler, so i can see the hastags in only one interview. like <> 2) my sections a to big to see in on glace without scrolling the position of the tag, an extra option of the hastag macro would be great that only lists the paragraph where the hastag is in instead of the whole section. 2a) (low priortiy) it would be very great if by clicking on the section, first the pragraph comes an by clicking on the paragrap the section opens. and py clicking on the section then the whole tiddler opens on the position of the hashtag 2b) (low priortiy i use the hastag plugin to find interesting sections in my interview transcriptions that i can use for citation and writing about. when i mark text to copy it i have to mark the text and leave the mousecoursor outside of the textbox or it closes. solution would be that the opening n closing of the sections is not done by clicking on them bot by a button. 3) the ordering of the sections in the listing of the hastag macro dont make a tifference between ! or !! or !!! when i have an subsection !!2:00 in section !003 then it is listed before !!3:00 in section !001 . hastag x tiddler i section 2:00 section 3:00 so it would be usefull to have the hieracy of sections in the list of the hastag plugin like hastag x tiddler i section 001 subsection 3:00 section 003 subsection 2:00 On Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47:25 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: > > I did some experimentation and maybe inline hashtags in your tiddler > bodies would be helpful? > > http://hashtags.tiddlyspace.com > > (This is all experimental for now.) > > tb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/PitkT9OUlx8J. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
I forget what this [1] was ...until now. I was looking into coding videos in the wonderful world of accademia last year. The tool they all seem to use is NVivo I think it would be wonderful for TW land to have evidence of TW use in Grounded Theory in accademic contexts and for TW to have an adaption so that non-corporates can do a bit of grounded research. Viva Emergence! [2] Alex [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVivo [2] ..erm yes .. ok i don't know its like emergence just happens ... to regular folks too! #ExplanationForSloganearing On 13 April 2012 01:32, Tobias Beer wrote: > Haven't thought about that yet... will give the idea some thought. To > begin with, I thought it were meaningful to separate #tags from other tags > or tiddlers... or to even allow "#tag" as tiddler titles. Probably a > twitter willl eventually be best. The easiest thing would be to just > provide a link to the actual tiddler from the search results. > > Tobias. > > Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2012 00:36:39 UTC+2 schrieb Niklas Wagner: > >> >> if a #tag is a # and a already existing TidllerTitle then it doesent >> become a tag? >> >> I dont know if it is so useful to make a distinction between hastags >> and tiddlers. i mean when i tag something with #compost the tiddler >> "compost" should be connected with it. the concept that a tag is a >> tiddler is so simple and powerful. didnt TaggelyTagging introduce that? >> (i dont know, because i only found tiddlywiki in 2008) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/tUohqzseQOwJ. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Haven't thought about that yet... will give the idea some thought. To begin with, I thought it were meaningful to separate #tags from other tags or tiddlers... or to even allow "#tag" as tiddler titles. Probably a twitter willl eventually be best. The easiest thing would be to just provide a link to the actual tiddler from the search results. Tobias. Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2012 00:36:39 UTC+2 schrieb Niklas Wagner: > > > if a #tag is a # and a already existing TidllerTitle then it doesent > become a tag? > > I dont know if it is so useful to make a distinction between hastags > and tiddlers. i mean when i tag something with #compost the tiddler > "compost" should be connected with it. the concept that a tag is a > tiddler is so simple and powerful. didnt TaggelyTagging introduce that? > (i dont know, because i only found tiddlywiki in 2008) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/tUohqzseQOwJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
> > What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call > > "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential, > > section/chapter whatever order. > > However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be > > "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic > > tags. > > Ho do you view it then in sequential order? i tried that and created the sequential order through this plugin http://sunyit-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/#[[PopTag%20PlugIn]] this is very nice to make sections of tiddlers into tiddlers and still keep them transcluded, but for that i need to cut the section create a new tiddler paste the section name the tiddler tag the tiddler with the title of the source tiddler and write in oldtiddler at the position of the cuttet section the popt makro cant that be made in one click? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
if a #tag is a # and a already existing TidllerTitle then it doesent become a tag? I dont know if it is so useful to make a distinction between hastags and tiddlers. i mean when i tag something with #compost the tiddler "compost" should be connected with it. the concept that a tag is a tiddler is so simple and powerful. didnt TaggelyTagging introduce that? (i dont know, because i only found tiddlywiki in 2008) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
i sometimes make spelling mistakes or just put a second hashtag to the same subjekt, because, i dont remember that there was already one hastag for that subjekt. in normal tagging the autocomplete of the http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IntelliTaggerPlugin prevents that pretty good. to tidy up the mess i have made, is there a relplace plugin for tiddlywiki, that i can replace wrong spelled hastags with the right spelling? i searched the group and found: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/cfcec80f3c62d0f/896da7a59fef94e9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=replace+search#896da7a59fef94e9 but the SearchAndReplacePlugin is not there anymore. Normally i just open the TiddlyWikiFile in an edtor and do the find/ replace there. Should I make a new Discussion for this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Thank you, now it works and its great! The overview where the tag occours is very helpful for my purposes. But i have pretty big tiddlers, which i want to hashtag, containing the transcriptions of the interviews. they are up to 1 words/ 30pages big i would have to make lots of sections so that i find the location of the hastag fast. Also when i put the same hastag more than once in a tiddler or section it is not shown but i think you already have thought about that in this post: You wrote: Mar 13, 2:10 pm Rather than (some special markup for)#hashtags, I would think it were much better to index and detect either the paragraphs or the sections where #hashtags (/or [[TiddlyLinks]]) are contained, e.g. the http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin plugin does something like that when you are searching. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Hi Niklas, Good to hear that you've got your update working. I have uploaded a fixed version. The problem was that excludes are (not necessarily) defined in a Tiddler called HashTagsConfig. Sorry, there is no detailed documentation yet. Anyways, the current default for [[HashTagsConfig]] is the following... !Exclude [[Bracketed List Of Tiddlers]] [[That Are]] [[Excluded]] [[Along With]] [[All Tiddlers]] [[Tagging To Them]] "In One Line Or Multiple' 'using single quotes' "or double quotes" OrCamelCase Hope that helped... Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/FwD9YqPvH-YJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
jep it seems I had a very alt version of TW, but i managed to upgrade i made an copy of my Tw due to your Experimental Waring Infos an included your HashTagsPlugin the #words are now bigger and links, but the Tiddler "Search results for #word..." only contains Error in macro <> which is: Error while executing macro <>: TypeError: store.getTiddlerText(cmt.exclude) is nul :( I believe your HashTagsPlugin could be used very good for my purposes of Grounded Theory Tagging, because it is very fast in handling. right now i create of each section, which should be tagged, a new Tiddler and use the PoptPlugin(taken from http://stevesuny.tiddlyspace.com/) to transclude this new tiddler into the old place of the original tiddler. this takes long time of copy and paste and typing compared to your solution. On Apr 7, 11:05 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Thanks Eric, > > I have added the CoreVersion to the plugin slices... > > Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
jep it seems I had a very alt version of TW, but i managed to upgrade i made an copy of my Tw due to your Experimental Waring Infos an included your HashTagsPlugin the #words are now bigger and links, but the Tiddler "Search results for #word..." only contains Error in macro <> which is: Error while executing macro <>: TypeError: store.getTiddlerText(cmt.exclude) is nul :( I believe your HashTagsPlugin could be used very good for my purposes of Grounded Theory Tagging, because it is very fast in handling. right now i create of each section, which should be tagged, a new Tiddler and use the PoptPlugin(taken from http://stevesuny.tiddlyspace.com/) to transclude this new tiddler into the old place of the original tiddler. this takes long time of copy and paste and typing compared to your solution. On 7 Apr., 14:54, Tobias Beer wrote: > I don't remember from when on exactly jQuery was part of the TiddlyWiki > core... but what version are you running? Perhaps you need to upgrade if > possible. Theoretically, I could write my code without jQuery, but I'd > mch rather not. So I guess, I need to put up a dependency some core > version. > > Anybody remember, what version that would be? > > Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Thanks Eric, I have added the CoreVersion to the plugin slices... Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/HRSHht0_1UMJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Apr 7, 5:54 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > I don't remember from when on exactly jQuery was part of the TiddlyWiki > core... but what version are you running? Perhaps you need to upgrade if > possible. Theoretically, I could write my code without jQuery, but I'd > mch rather not. So I guess, I need to put up a dependency some core > version. > > Anybody remember, what version that would be? jQuery was added in TW2.5.0 -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
I don't remember from when on exactly jQuery was part of the TiddlyWiki core... but what version are you running? Perhaps you need to upgrade if possible. Theoretically, I could write my code without jQuery, but I'd mch rather not. So I guess, I need to put up a dependency some core version. Anybody remember, what version that would be? Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/OGYc88D1huYJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Ok i tried when I include your HashTagsPlug the PluginManager says: Error: ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined how to fix that? Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 23:32:44 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias Beer: > > Of course... feel free to experiment. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/WC1RchvLkMsJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
> > Of course... feel free to experiment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/DDL-E3_BuMMJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
@Tobais : Great contributions Alex On 13 March 2012 19:43, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Mario, > >> uique ID (checksum)? > > Well, actually perhaps the most simple paragraph count actually does > the trick. > >> all references are broken, if they are not dynamically rewritten. > > What I have in mind is to... > * either keep a full index of hash tags updated in memory > * dynamically load something more resembling search results > >> Linking from external sources to one of your paragraphs imo >> will allways be broken after some time. (1/2 a year, 1-2 years ...) > > I guess the example of Chris implementation wasn't really a good one. > It might have given the idea that url-style-references and permalinks > to paragraphs were in the focus... which they are not. > > So actually, what I have in mind really is a kind of search function > with perhaps a smart pre-indexing and the ability to show search > results in the context of a surrounding paragraph or section. > > These search results could be invoked via macro or even by detecting > hashtags when rendering a tiddler and turning them into links, which > upon click would open a corresponding (shadow-)tiddler with the search > results for this hashtag... all on the fly and most certainly updated > with any tiddler updates. > > Thinking this further, calling such a shadow tiddler via permalink > would actually display hashtag search results when a tw loads... how > cool would that be? > > Again, hashtag prefixes might be any in a number of different > prefixes, not just #. So when you click on a hashtag, you might want > to not only see other contents where it is contained but also other > hash tags that start by the same prefix... perhaps by opening a slider > containing a list of all alike hastags, perhaps again as a slider > which - when opened - immediately displays the search results for a > given hashtag. > > Tobias. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Mar 26, 10:47 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > http://hashtags.tiddlyspace.com Wow Tobias, and I thought my "Experimental Waring Infos" are daunting ;) Great work btw. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
you warn not to include your plugin jet, should i experiment with it in my ongoing tagging(GroundedTheory Categorizing)and give you feedback, or even load some of my ongoing wok to some tiddlyspace? That we can dicuss it there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
wow thank you for your work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
I did some experimentation and maybe inline hashtags in your tiddler bodies would be helpful? http://hashtags.tiddlyspace.com (This is all experimental for now.) tb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Hi Mario, > uique ID (checksum)? Well, actually perhaps the most simple paragraph count actually does the trick. > all references are broken, if they are not dynamically rewritten. What I have in mind is to... * either keep a full index of hash tags updated in memory * dynamically load something more resembling search results > Linking from external sources to one of your paragraphs imo > will allways be broken after some time. (1/2 a year, 1-2 years ...) I guess the example of Chris implementation wasn't really a good one. It might have given the idea that url-style-references and permalinks to paragraphs were in the focus... which they are not. So actually, what I have in mind really is a kind of search function with perhaps a smart pre-indexing and the ability to show search results in the context of a surrounding paragraph or section. These search results could be invoked via macro or even by detecting hashtags when rendering a tiddler and turning them into links, which upon click would open a corresponding (shadow-)tiddler with the search results for this hashtag... all on the fly and most certainly updated with any tiddler updates. Thinking this further, calling such a shadow tiddler via permalink would actually display hashtag search results when a tw loads... how cool would that be? Again, hashtag prefixes might be any in a number of different prefixes, not just #. So when you click on a hashtag, you might want to not only see other contents where it is contained but also other hash tags that start by the same prefix... perhaps by opening a slider containing a list of all alike hastags, perhaps again as a slider which - when opened - immediately displays the search results for a given hashtag. Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Mar 13, 1:10 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > As for paragraphs, it would be required to first index all paragraphs > upon initial inspection when generating the list and then to open the > target element using a hijacked version of displayTiddler which > would... > # require a unique identifier for the target element to be addressed > # render the target element of the tiddler with a unique id > (checksum?) along with a special css class for highlighting it > # eventually jump to the target element upon opening uique ID (checksum)? If you change one bit in a paragraph the checksum will change ... all references are broken, if they are not dynamically rewritten. Linking from external sources to one of your paragraphs imo will allways be broken after some time. (1/2 a year, 1-2 years ...) A TW tiddler permalink with some text eg: see: "end of the text" imo will be more stable. Due to the nature of TW you'll need to keep the tiddler title ;) -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
@Alex
Rather than (some special markup for)#hashtags, I would think it were
much better to index and detect either the paragraphs or the sections
where #hashtags (/or [[TiddlyLinks]]) are contained, e.g.
{{{
!A Section
Some #hashtag in the context of [[some topic]].
!Another Section
Foo bar baz.
}}}
...or...
{{{
A paragraph containing #aHashTag and some subsequent contextual
content.
This would be a new paragraph not consituting the direct context of
the above hashtag.
}}}
Besides, the syntax you suggested earlier does not so much conform to
the general use of #hashtags all over the web
So, what I think is missing is a way to index...
* [[TiddlyLinks]]
* #Hashtags
* @Tags
* AnyTag
And then be able to list them highlighting the tag in the context of
the...
* paragraph
* section
* tiddler
wherein they are contained.
Once you click on a list item (or a dedicated link in relation to it),
you would want the ability to jump to the corresponding element where
the [[TiddlyLink]] or #hashtag or @tag is contained. For whole
tiddlers and sections that would already work (with the additional
requirement of SectionLinksPlugin from TiddlyTools when it comes to
sections).
As for paragraphs, it would be required to first index all paragraphs
upon initial inspection when generating the list and then to open the
target element using a hijacked version of displayTiddler which
would...
# require a unique identifier for the target element to be addressed
# render the target element of the tiddler with a unique id
(checksum?) along with a special css class for highlighting it
# eventually jump to the target element upon opening
I remember that @Chris somewhere indexed all paragraphs in one of his
wikis. This would be a perfect starting point for implementing the
paragraph based solution.
All in all, this could be a perfectly generic HashTagsPlugin where not
only hashes but all kinds of prefixes could be used for indexing a
hash-tag-map.
For performance it might be beneficial to persist the hash-tag-map in
the browser memory and perhaps have it created upon startup and
updated on any tiddler change.
Eventually, some RegEx guru might be able to easily spot #hashtags in
tiddler bodies directly returning the section title (/ paragraph
checksum) to the surrounding function.
Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Actually, I would think the basic approach in TiddlyWiki would be wikilinks. So, you would write about [[snails]]. Once you open the snails tiddler, you could easily find references. So, if you wish, linking is a kind of tagging. On top of that you could still use tagging for whole tiddlers. What's missing is the ability to list references in the context of the sections (or paragraphs) where they occur. As of today, using Erics's RelatedTiddlersPlugin from http://tiddlytools.com you could explore those related items in a minimal spanning tree. A flavour of RelatedTiddlersPlugin available in tbGTD is x-plore (see toolbar). It allows you to see such trees for the four basic relations that are... * tagged by * tagging to * referenced by * linking to Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Friday, March 9, 2012 4:57:10 AM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote: > > > I am sure there are many people here who could do it (I couldn't), but > unless you can find someone with the same desire to scratch that > particular itch, you'll probably have to offer to pay for the work > involved in developing such a custom plugin. If you indicate a willingness > to do so, I would think you'd likely get followups via private email to > discuss further details. > > right now i have no money for that. > > also i am indetermined if i should tell the community all my ideas or > save them for when i have enough money to buy programmers free from > wagework ;) Sorry I don't understand that last bit - maybe try re-phrasing. "buy" = hire? "free from wagework?" What possible disadvantage could there be in sharing your ideas? Developing them with others that might be interested here, refining what you're trying to accomplish. You never know when someone will pop up in TWland with the same itch, and if they happen to be an experienced javascript hacker who could prototype a plugin in a spare afternoon. . . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/oRtGNQQK-WcJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
> I am sure there are many people here who could do it (I couldn't), but > unless you can find someone with the same desire to scratch that particular > itch, you'll probably have to offer to pay for the work involved in > developing such a custom plugin. If you indicate a willingness to do so, I > would think you'd likely get followups via private email to discuss further > details. right now i have no money for that. also i am indetermined if i should tell the community all my ideas or save them for when i have enough money to buy programmers free from wagework ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Mar 8, 12:20 pm, Alex Hough wrote: > When you've got time if you could post a more detailed description. >> What should be described and who do you mean? > > On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:52:23 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote: > >> tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the > >> tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised. i found some plugin that yould be used for that: http://stevesuny.tiddlyspace.com/#[[PopNote%20PlugIn]] Greets, Niklas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
I wonder if there might be an opportunity in seeking some funding. Grounded Theory is not going to go away, a sound tool for coding data into a wiki could lead to more grounded theory practitioners using TW. It's a long tail... When you've got time if you could post a more detailed description. Alex On 7 March 2012 03:28, HansBKK wrote: > On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:52:23 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote: >> >> Sorry after i have finisht my master thesis i want to get into >> JAvaskript and Tiddly, but now i dont have time for that. Can anybody >> programm, what i have asked for ;) >> : >> tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the >> tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised. > > > I am sure there are many people here who could do it (I couldn't), but > unless you can find someone with the same desire to scratch that particular > itch, you'll probably have to offer to pay for the work involved in > developing such a custom plugin. If you indicate a willingness to do so, I > would think you'd likely get followups via private email to discuss further > details. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/Z34GnB_Eew4J. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Monday, March 5, 2012 8:52:23 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote: > > Sorry after i have finisht my master thesis i want to get into > JAvaskript and Tiddly, but now i dont have time for that. Can anybody > programm, what i have asked for ;) > : > tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the > tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised. > I am sure there are many people here who could do it (I couldn't), but unless you can find someone with the same desire to scratch that particular itch, you'll probably have to offer to pay for the work involved in developing such a custom plugin. If you indicate a willingness to do so, I would think you'd likely get followups via private email to discuss further details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/Z34GnB_Eew4J. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Sorry after i have finisht my master thesis i want to get into JAvaskript and Tiddly, but now i dont have time for that. Can anybody programm, what i have asked for ;) : tagging of parts of tiddlers, and seeing all tagged parts under the tiddler with the title of that tag. also that both are syncronised. On 29 Feb., 10:05, Alex Hough wrote: > Perhaps we could think of the required outputs. > > | Code | Phrase | Contained in Tiddler |h > | #description | "few leaves on his flowers" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] | > | #emotion | "he was delighted" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] | > | table showing coded phrases and locations|c > > ... then work out a how to produce the table > > 1) go to the tiddler store > 2) find any tiddler that has any text surrounded by double single > brackets and followed by a hash and put them into an array > 3) output table > > I think the Javascript RegEx Object might come in handy... > > ALex > > [1]http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_regexp.asp > > On 29 February 2012 03:04, Niklas Wagner wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Better to use the term "tagging" content then so it's clear in this > >> context. > > > very good, but what i mean is not tagging of tiddlers but tagging of > > parts of tiddlers. > > >> What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call > >> "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential, > >> section/chapter whatever order. > >> However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be > >> "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic > >> tags. > > > Ho do you view it then in sequential order? > > > i think the problem with that is that certain parts of an text have at > > the same time different interlocking tags: > > > Niklas: in my interviews on "Neatness in Gardens" I have a tag > > "Snail", I want to mark all sections of in the transcripts with this > > tag. > > Alex: ((Alex's garden was looking very neat. There were ((few leaves > > on his > > flowers))#description and ((he was delighted))#emotion. > > Niklas: Alex, Do you like Snails? I mean they ate all the leaves of > > the your flowers.))#Snails > > > perhaps the solution would look like something like the preview of the > >http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin > > > but what you could fill in a tiddler and define exactly with (()) what > > should be displayed. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "TiddlyWiki" group. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
Perhaps we could think of the required outputs. | Code | Phrase | Contained in Tiddler |h | #description | "few leaves on his flowers" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] | | #emotion | "he was delighted" | [[Neatness in Gardens]] | | table showing coded phrases and locations|c ... then work out a how to produce the table 1) go to the tiddler store 2) find any tiddler that has any text surrounded by double single brackets and followed by a hash and put them into an array 3) output table I think the Javascript RegEx Object might come in handy... ALex [1] http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_obj_regexp.asp On 29 February 2012 03:04, Niklas Wagner wrote: >> Better to use the term "tagging" content then so it's clear in this >> context. > > very good, but what i mean is not tagging of tiddlers but tagging of > parts of tiddlers. > > >> What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call >> "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential, >> section/chapter whatever order. >> However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be >> "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic >> tags. > > Ho do you view it then in sequential order? > > i think the problem with that is that certain parts of an text have at > the same time different interlocking tags: > > Niklas: in my interviews on "Neatness in Gardens" I have a tag > "Snail", I want to mark all sections of in the transcripts with this > tag. > Alex: ((Alex's garden was looking very neat. There were ((few leaves > on his > flowers))#description and ((he was delighted))#emotion. > Niklas: Alex, Do you like Snails? I mean they ate all the leaves of > the your flowers.))#Snails > > > perhaps the solution would look like something like the preview of the > http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin > > but what you could fill in a tiddler and define exactly with (()) what > should be displayed. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
> Better to use the term "tagging" content then so it's clear in this > context. very good, but what i mean is not tagging of tiddlers but tagging of parts of tiddlers. > What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call > "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential, > section/chapter whatever order. > However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be > "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic > tags. Ho do you view it then in sequential order? i think the problem with that is that certain parts of an text have at the same time different interlocking tags: Niklas: in my interviews on "Neatness in Gardens" I have a tag "Snail", I want to mark all sections of in the transcripts with this tag. Alex: ((Alex's garden was looking very neat. There were ((few leaves on his flowers))#description and ((he was delighted))#emotion. Niklas: Alex, Do you like Snails? I mean they ate all the leaves of the your flowers.))#Snails perhaps the solution would look like something like the preview of the http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin but what you could fill in a tiddler and define exactly with (()) what should be displayed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Grounded Theory Coding
On Friday, February 24, 2012 10:11:09 PM UTC+7, Niklas Wagner wrote: > > Coding here means to tag certain parts of a text. > > Better to use the term "tagging" content then so it's clear in this context. What I do is break a longer text down into smaller chunks, what I call "nodes", in such a way that it's easy to view the whole work in sequential, section/chapter whatever order. However because the nodes are now individual tiddlers, they can also be "assembled for viewing" according to other criteria, including your topic tags. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/EQI1M7o_YcYJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
