[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
(nothing is red or green as like as the words Red and Green) and the second shows some minor data: Turns out you found a bug:https://github.com/jdlrobson/tiddlyspace/tree/ErrorHandlerDiffing Ok, it's just the beginning, I suppose. As for now I use TiddlySpace seldom and via FireFox only. More consistent testing through Opera will bring a whole bunch of questions and probably some bugs. Is it possible you edited the same space in two different tabs/windows. No, I've opened the space only in one browser in one window in one tab, for sure. there was no highlighting going on I'm not sure I understand what do you mean. Anyway, I can try this once more, with some extra actions, if this would make any sence (I mean, import ToolbarCommand without +cloneTiddler and than add it through recreating ToolbarCommand with +cloneTiddler added. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Edit conflicts [1] *should* occur only when you modify a tiddler that
is different on the server. Is it possible you edited the same space
in two different tabs/windows.
Since there was no highlighting going on I suspect there is a chance
you have found a bug.
Jon
[1]http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/Edit%20Conflict
On Apr 25, 7:25 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. A very strange effect occured, you dig in the right direction,
Ben. When I saved edited ToolbarCommands, a message appeared in the
div id=tiddlerToolbarCommands:
Edit Conflict: this tiddler may have been changed by someone else.
review (recommended) overwrite cancel
and review sais:
Review the changes that have been made whilst you were editing this
tiddler. Fold relevant changes back into your version.
{{removed{Red}}} highlight shows content removed. {{added{Green}}}
highlight shows content added.
slider chkViewDiffText ToolbarCommands - text *(edit conflict
21:08:18)* View changes in text
slider chkViewDiffField ToolbarCommands - fields *(edit conflict
21:08:18)* View changes in fields
The first slider shows the new text of ToolbarCommands (which I
defined):
|~ViewToolbar|closeTiddler closeOthers +editTiddler +cloneTiddler
fields syncing permalink references deleteTiddler| |~EditToolbar|
+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler|
(nothing is red or green as like as the words Red and Green) and
the second shows some minor data:
modifier: yakov created: 20110421193117 modified: 20110425170728 type:
None tags: _hash: c6c058d65feb35087569b44f6dc94b7fedd0a456
Now I choose cancel and changes are saved. Aha, that's right, now
the button edit appeared on those tiddlers which I couldn't edit
before. It is me who overwrote the ToolbarCommands content when
uploading interface elements. Now I've edited ToolbarCommands, saved,
reloaded, and every thing is ok. Thanks!
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[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
(nothing is red or green as like as the words Red and Green) and the second shows some minor data: Turns out you found a bug: https://github.com/jdlrobson/tiddlyspace/tree/ErrorHandlerDiffing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Wow. A very strange effect occured, you dig in the right direction,
Ben. When I saved edited ToolbarCommands, a message appeared in the
div id=tiddlerToolbarCommands:
Edit Conflict: this tiddler may have been changed by someone else.
review (recommended) overwrite cancel
and review sais:
Review the changes that have been made whilst you were editing this
tiddler. Fold relevant changes back into your version.
{{removed{Red}}} highlight shows content removed. {{added{Green}}}
highlight shows content added.
slider chkViewDiffText ToolbarCommands - text *(edit conflict
21:08:18)* View changes in text
slider chkViewDiffField ToolbarCommands - fields *(edit conflict
21:08:18)* View changes in fields
The first slider shows the new text of ToolbarCommands (which I
defined):
|~ViewToolbar|closeTiddler closeOthers +editTiddler +cloneTiddler
fields syncing permalink references deleteTiddler| |~EditToolbar|
+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler|
(nothing is red or green as like as the words Red and Green) and
the second shows some minor data:
modifier: yakov created: 20110421193117 modified: 20110425170728 type:
None tags: _hash: c6c058d65feb35087569b44f6dc94b7fedd0a456
Now I choose cancel and changes are saved. Aha, that's right, now
the button edit appeared on those tiddlers which I couldn't edit
before. It is me who overwrote the ToolbarCommands content when
uploading interface elements. Now I've edited ToolbarCommands, saved,
reloaded, and every thing is ok. Thanks!
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[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Thanks Eric, but this doesn't work. I tested this with disabled PasteUpPlugin and now I've updated it. Also, I can't edit any tiddler that is not created, like the Root tiddler which appears first at the page. There's a workaround, though -- I can create a tiddler with such a name and edit it (while with existing shadowed tiddlers I have to open them in another space, copy initial content and than edit). Yes, I can edit them in another my space. Also, if you add the following to your EditTemplate: span class='editor' macro='edit server.host'/span span class='editor' macro='edit server.type'/span span class='editor' macro='edit server.workspace'/span You can view/modify the values for the TiddlySpace custom fields assigned to each tiddler. This enables you to hand-edit any missing values to fix those tiddlers so that they will get saved online. Ok, I'll keep this in mind. But once more. the problem is not that I can't *save* some tiddlers, I can't *open* them for editing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Hi Yakov Ok, I'll keep this in mind. But once more. the problem is not that I can't *save* some tiddlers, I can't *open* them for editing. Can you try adding +cloneTiddler to your ToolbarCommands please? So that it looks like the following: |~ViewToolbar|closeTiddler closeOthers +editTiddler +cloneTiddler fields syncing permalink references deleteTiddler| |~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler| Let me know how it goes Thanks Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
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[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
On Apr 23, 5:56 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: So, any ideas? Nope, not really. The only thing, that I see is, that your non existant tiddlers have no custom fields. And that causes, the problem. But I have no concrete idea, why. Somewhere your TW overwrites some TiddlySpace core functions. Sry, @devs have to jump in here. = An other possibility would be, that you use a TS theme, until you get the problem with yours solved. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
The only thing, that I see is, that your non existant tiddlers have no custom fields. And that causes, the problem. But I have no concrete idea, why. Somewhere your TW overwrites some TiddlySpace core functions. Sry, @devs have to jump in here. TiddlySpace tiddlers use custom fields to set the server information. Otherwise they don't get saved online. TiddlySpace automatically sets the config.defaultCustomFields object to contain the required custom field name/value pairs. Unfortunately, some plugins -- those not specifically written for TiddlySpace -- don't always pass the default fields into the TWCore store.saveTiddler(...) function. As a result, although a tiddler is created *locally*, and can be saved *locally*, it lacks the needed server info and thus, does not get saved online. A quick look at the installed plugins in your document reveals that you are using an older version of TiddlyTools PasteUpPlugin (v1.0.1). That version doesn't use the defaultCustomFields, so any tiddlers created by paste up actions won't be saved online. Fortunately, this has *already been fixed*: 2011.02.08 1.0.9 when saving new tiddlers, use config.defaultCustomFields for TiddlySpace compatibility Please install the most up-to-date version (v1.1.0) http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PasteUpPlugin Also, if you add the following to your EditTemplate: span class='editor' macro='edit server.host'/span span class='editor' macro='edit server.type'/span span class='editor' macro='edit server.workspace'/span You can view/modify the values for the TiddlySpace custom fields assigned to each tiddler. This enables you to hand-edit any missing values to fix those tiddlers so that they will get saved online. enjoy, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Unfortunately, disabling PersistentAuthorNameParameter doesn't help. This is kind of predictable -- safe mode also should disable this thing (after testing, I removed the disabling tags). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Ok, I published the stuff, though I uploaded only structure tiddlers, not content. Your link [2] should be:http://yl-test-upload.tiddlyspace.com/_safe Oh, my! Probably I was too sleepy not to catch this :) But the safe mode didn't fix the problem of editing nonexistent tiddlers. Is this mode just disable all external plugins option? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
I don't know exactly. But may be it has something to do with your PersistentAuthorNameParameter which changes the user name. Which may cause trouble with TS. @devs can jump in here -m [1] http://yl-test-upload.tiddlyspace.com/#PersistentAuthorNameParameter On Apr 21, 9:41 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I published the stuff, though I uploaded only structure tiddlers, not content. Your link [2] should be:http://yl-test-upload.tiddlyspace.com/_safe Oh, my! Probably I was too sleepy not to catch this :) But the safe mode didn't fix the problem of editing nonexistent tiddlers. Is this mode just disable all external plugins option? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Thanks Mario. I've run into many more difficulties and questions. As for now, in [1] I have a very interesting one: I can't edit tiddlers that are not created yet. Those ones (opened by clicking a pretty link, for instance) doesn't have the edit button and are not opened for editing, if double-clicked. Any ideas? Only system-plugins is included. Also, the [2] link doesn't work for me. Do you mean allyourspace space? [1] http://yl-test-upload.tiddlyspace.com/ [2] http://yourspace.tiddlyspace.com/_safe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
Hi, At you link, I can't see anything. All your tiddlers seem to be private. You need to make them public, that we can see them. Only those, which you want us to see, off course :) Enter the backstage area and got to the batch tab. There should be 2 tabs: private public at the private tab select every tiddler we should see and make public. If you log out, you'll see, what we can see, because we are no members of your space. === Your link [2] should be: http://yl-test-upload.tiddlyspace.com/_safe -m On Apr 19, 10:33 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mario. I've run into many more difficulties and questions. As for now, in [1] I have a very interesting one: I can't edit tiddlers that are not created yet. Those ones (opened by clicking a pretty link, for instance) doesn't have the edit button and are not opened for editing, if double-clicked. Any ideas? Only system-plugins is included. Also, the [2] link doesn't work for me. Do you mean allyourspace space? [1]http://yl-test-upload.tiddlyspace.com/ [2]http://yourspace.tiddlyspace.com/_safe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is it easy to upload a TW made offline to TiddlySpace?
On Apr 16, 10:20 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to upload a tw-document easily to TiddlySpace? I mean, not only tiddlers, but the theme and other things? Themes work quite well if you remove [[StyleSheetTiddlySpace]] from your StyleSheet shadow tiddler. Since this will definitely mess up your Theme. The other key words here are and other things. If you have plugins, that programmatically manipulate tiddlers and save them, the chance is quite high, that they don't work with tiddlySpace. Since there are some adjustments needed for saving to the server. These plugins, wont break anything, they just don't save ... On the other hand, there is a chance, that some TW plugins you are using, are allready fixed and available as includeable spaces. ..While it's possible for TiddlySpot (I just need to add the four plugins used there and set the parameters/cookies as they are in the TW-file downloaded from the spot) Exactly those plugins will _not_ work if you upload them to TS. The whole ServerSide saving mechanism is rewritten for TS. ... TiddlySpace has 38 plugins and 13 new shadowed tiddlers so it would be crazy to copy and customize this even once. See the themes space for the cracy stuff :) .. The import mechanism is a bit awkward since it doesn't see not touched shadowed tiddlers which are different in a vanilla tw and in TiddlySpace.. You can create a new space and exclude every system space _except_ system-plugins space. Then upload your stuff (excluded server side saving stuff), and see what happens. If you mess up your space, _safe mode [1] can help. have fun! mario [1] http://themes.tiddlyspace.com [2] http://yourspace.tiddlyspace.com/_safe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
