Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Jeremy Ruston]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59:49 PM UTC-9, Josh wrote:

> I would also like to be able to
>>
>> 3. Create a Journal Note, tagged journal with the title as a date in the
>> format -MM-DD. ( I can do most of this I just don't know how to change
>> the title dynamically, to the date?)
>>
>>>
>>>
> I would really like to know how to do this as well. What I'd like is to
> have a link in a tiddler (that would eventually list such entries) that I
> could click on and have this automagically happen. I figured out how to do
> this with TWC, but have no idea how to do it with TW5...
>

It's not currently possible, but the plan is to support it in TW5, too.
I've added a ticket for reference:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/336

Best wishes

Jeremy



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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Chris Lott]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59:49 PM UTC-9, Josh wrote:
>
> I would also like to be able to 
>
> 3. Create a Journal Note, tagged journal with the title as a date in the 
> format -MM-DD. ( I can do most of this I just don't know how to change 
> the title dynamically, to the date?)
>
>>
>>
I would really like to know how to do this as well. What I'd like is to 
have a link in a tiddler (that would eventually list such entries) that I 
could click on and have this automagically happen. I figured out how to do 
this with TWC, but have no idea how to do it with TW5...

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Josh,

Glad it worked. I also use the standalone version you mention (How to use 
TiddlyWiki5 as a standalone HTML file with TiddlyFox, step 1).
As soon as the PageTemplate does not create a Javascript error anymore when 
trying to adjust it (alpha15 I hope), you can add the "T" button over there.

I cannot answer your other questions; I am just a user with "copy & paste" 
experience ;)

Cheers,

Ton

On Friday, November 15, 2013 4:59:49 AM UTC+1, Josh wrote:
>
> I would also like to be able to 
>
> 1. Sort by title in reverse order or date created in reverse order 
> *<$checkbox 
> tag="done"> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
> field="title"/>*
> 2. Tag a task with the day I complete it in the format -MM-DD
> 3. Create a Journal Note, tagged journal with the title as a date in the 
> format -MM-DD. ( I can do most of this I just don't know how to change 
> the title dynamically, to the date?)
>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

I would also like to be able to 

1. Sort by title in reverse order or date created in reverse order *<$checkbox 
tag="done"> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
field="title"/>*
2. Tag a task with the day I complete it in the format -MM-DD
3. Create a Journal Note, tagged journal with the title as a date in the 
format -MM-DD. ( I can do most of this I just don't know how to change 
the title dynamically, to the date?)

>
>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

Ton, 

Thanks heaps, I tried it again after downloading this and importing all my 
tiddlers and it worked. I used this version. 
*http://five.tiddlywiki.com/static/How%2520to%2520use%2520TiddlyWiki5%2520as%2520a%2520standalone%2520HTML%2520file%2520with%2520TiddlyFox.html
 
*

Questions
1. Is there a way to import by tag when importing tiddlers?
2. The settings page tells you the number of *user created *and *system 
tiddlers* is there some javascript I can use to show me a view of just the 
tiddlers I have created?


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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

On Second thoughts is there a way I can use the alpha from here: 
*https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/releases* and just extract the 
actual HTML without having to do anything else like compile it etc? 

I am currently using this one: (I saved the file from step 1) 
*http://five.tiddlywiki.com/static/How%2520to%2520use%2520TiddlyWiki5%2520as%2520a%2520standalone%2520HTML%2520file%2520with%2520TiddlyFox.html*

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

I am currently using that alpha as well. And I tried some things in your 
internal version (where you can resize, and has a larger window for tiddler 
content). I will try again and let you know. Maybe I will download the 
latest version again.

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

Ton, 

Thanks, 

Having trouble getting the *T *to show up on all tiddlers though?

It only shows up on the ViewTemplate/title one? So I can only create a Task 
Tiddler from there? And it still doesn't tag the tiddler with tag="task" 
automatically? 

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Josh,

I tried adding a button to the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate but got a Javascript 
error (see [1]).

As a workaround you can add a button to the tiddler toolbar.

Create a tiddler MyTaskSkeletonTiddler tagged with task.

Open $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title

The button definitions are shown here:

<$button popup=<> 
class="btn-invisible" 
selectedClass="tw-selected">{{$:/core/images/info-button}}<$button 
message="tw-edit-tiddler" 
class="btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/edit-button}}<$button 
message="tw-close-tiddler" 
class="btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

You can add a 'Task'button:

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="MyTaskSkeletonTiddler">T

E.g. after the Info button:

<$button popup=<> 
class="btn-invisible" 
selectedClass="tw-selected">{{$:/core/images/info-button}}<$button 
message="tw-new-tiddler" param="MyTaskSkeletonTiddler">T<$button 
message="tw-edit-tiddler" 
class="btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/edit-button}}<$button 
message="tw-close-tiddler" 
class="btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

The button is shown as a 'real button'. If you add the class 
"btn-invisible", the button will show as a big (text) 'T':

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" class="btn-invisible" 
param="MyTaskSkeletonTiddler">T

Cheers,

Ton

[1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ItSRbOC3hCw/1ysmFzaYhWoJ


On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:46:23 PM UTC+1, Josh wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeremy I will play around with that version and the internal 
> version.
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

Sorry should have said I was looking for more of a detailed explanation as 
to how to put it in the left menu, as I am new. alongside the other three 
buttons with a picture of a T for task. 

But thank you. the button inside a tiddler worked to create a new tiddler, 
but did not tag the new tiddler with the tag "Task" however?


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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[David Gifford]

Easy:

1. Create a new tiddler. Call it, say, TaskTemplate. This is the "skeleton"
tiddler or the template from which your new tiddlers tagged as task will be
based on.
2. Tag this tiddler with the tag 'task' and save it.
3. As Jeremy said, you can paste a button wherever you want to put it

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="TaskTemplate">Create Task

That's it. Then you click on the 'Create a task' button, and a new tiddler
tagged 'task' will be created, and it will be tagged 'task'. It will be
called TaskTemplate 1, but you change the name to 'Buy milk at the store'
or whatever your new task is.

Dave


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Josh  wrote:

> David,
>
> Would you mind giving me a Run Down of how to do exactly that (create
> buttons based on template)? I am looking to create a new button which has
> the new tiddler functionality from TW5 (but a different picture, and also
> tags the tiddler with "task")
>
> I see how to create the button by searching for this:
> *$:/core/ui/PageTemplate* here: 
> *https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm
> *
>
> But I don't know how to create what the button does, I.e. the
> functionality, giving it a title and a tag.
>
> So If you could help I want to see for example:
>
>1. What the default tiddler looks like
>2. Where it is, so I can duplicate it and modify it to change the
>title from tiddler 1 to Task 1, and give it a tag Task.?
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

David, 

Would you mind giving me a Run Down of how to do exactly that (create 
buttons based on template)? I am looking to create a new button which has 
the new tiddler functionality from TW5 (but a different picture, and also 
tags the tiddler with "task")

I see how to create the button by searching for this: 
*$:/core/ui/PageTemplate* here: 
*https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm*

But I don't know how to create what the button does, I.e. the 
functionality, giving it a title and a tag. 

So If you could help I want to see for example: 

   1. What the default tiddler looks like 
   2. Where it is, so I can duplicate it and modify it to change the title 
   from tiddler 1 to Task 1, and give it a tag Task.?

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[David Gifford]

Don't know why I said a new button would be a cool feature when I have
myself created new-based-on-template buttons this past weekend. Must have
had my head in the clouds...


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> Hi Josh
>
> Yup, I always post through gmail, which has reasonable quoting support. I
> hadn't realised that the google groups web interface is so limited. No
> doubt both gmail and groups will be subsumed into google+ in due course
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Josh  wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> The quoted text view that keeps showing in purple when you post, is that
>> because you are responding from Gmail instead of the Google Groups forums? I
>>
>> haven't used google groups in a while and I am wondering how to do the
>> "Show Quoted Text" view that you always do when you post?
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Josh




Yup, I always post through gmail, which has reasonable quoting support. I 
hadn't realised that the google groups web interface is so limited. No doubt 
both gmail and groups will be subsumed into google+ in due course




Best wishes




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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Josh  wrote:

> Jeremy,
> The quoted text view that keeps showing in purple when you post, is that 
> because you are responding from Gmail instead of the Google Groups forums? I
> haven't used google groups in a while and I am wondering how to do the 
> "Show Quoted Text" view that you always do when you post?

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

Jeremy,

The quoted text view that keeps showing in purple when you post, is that 
because you are responding from Gmail instead of the Google Groups forums? I

haven't used google groups in a while and I am wondering how to do the 
"Show Quoted Text" view that you always do when you post?

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stephan,

Yes, we'll add the ability to set the title of the newly cloned tiddler
soon. One solution would be to add another attribute to the button widget,
and allow for the tw-new-tiddler event to have the additional parameter,
but I'm exploring ways to extend the mechanism to solve some other, related
problems too.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Stephan Hradek
wrote:

>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 21:59:13 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
>>
>> No, a skeleton tiddler can be any tiddler; clicking the associated "new"
>> button makes a clone of the skeleton tiddler with a new title.
>>
>
> Is there a way to set the title? I just created [[AnswerTemplate]] with
> some default text. Then another tiddler containing
>
> <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate">Answer
>
> When I click that button I get an [[AnswerTemplate 1]] tiddler.
>
> My current idea is to use TW5 for some auditing, where the ser would
> sometimes also need to add some answers to some questions. Maybe these
> answers will have a common layout or some common tags. However, I'd like to
> be able to somehow make the title of the answer-tiddler be defined by the
> question tiddler:
>
> [[Question What's the answer]]
> What's the answer to the question for the meaning of life, the universe
> and the rest
> <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate" title="Answer to
> the meaning of Life">Answer
>
> So this should not create  [[AnswerTemplate 1]] but [[Answer to the
> meaning of Life]] or, if we already have 41 answers ;) [[Answer to the
> meaning of Life 42]] ;)
>



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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

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Thanks Jeremy I will play around with that version and the internal version.

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

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Am Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 21:59:13 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
>
> No, a skeleton tiddler can be any tiddler; clicking the associated "new" 
> button makes a clone of the skeleton tiddler with a new title.
>

Is there a way to set the title? I just created [[AnswerTemplate]] with 
some default text. Then another tiddler containing

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate">Answer

When I click that button I get an [[AnswerTemplate 1]] tiddler.

My current idea is to use TW5 for some auditing, where the ser would 
sometimes also need to add some answers to some questions. Maybe these 
answers will have a common layout or some common tags. However, I'd like to 
be able to somehow make the title of the answer-tiddler be defined by the 
question tiddler:

[[Question What's the answer]]
What's the answer to the question for the meaning of life, the universe and 
the rest
<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate" title="Answer to 
the meaning of Life">Answer

So this should not create  [[AnswerTemplate 1]] but [[Answer to the meaning 
of Life]] or, if we already have 41 answers ;) [[Answer to the meaning of 
Life 42]] ;)

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Josh

Thank you, however I am still having some issues... Is a skeleton tiddler
> simply a new tiddler with no title no content and no tags?
>

No, a skeleton tiddler can be any tiddler; clicking the associated "new"
button makes a clone of the skeleton tiddler with a new title.

I created a new tiddler, removed the default title and content and then
> tagged it with "Task" however the button just creates a new tiddler, and it
> doesn't have the task tag.
>
> Sorry I am very new to creating buttons and being so new I know I am doing
> something wrong but don't know what?
>
> Also is it possible to have this New Task Button sit next to the New
> Tiddler button with the green + Plus Sign? Rather than having the button
> within a tiddler where I have to keep open the Task Tiddler or open it
> every time I wanted to create a task.
>

At the moment you could only do that by hacking the page template. Have a
look at Ton Gerner's example here, where he puts various buttons in the top
bar:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Josh]

Jeremy, 

Thank you, however I am still having some issues... Is a skeleton tiddler 
simply a new tiddler with no title no content and no tags?

I created a new tiddler, removed the default title and content and then 
tagged it with "Task" however the button just creates a new tiddler, and it 
doesn't have the task tag. 

Sorry I am very new to creating buttons and being so new I know I am doing 
something wrong but don't know what?

Also is it possible to have this New Task Button sit next to the New 
Tiddler button with the green + Plus Sign? Rather than having the button 
within a tiddler where I have to keep open the Task Tiddler or open it 
every time I wanted to create a task.

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Josh

You can have a "new task" button today. Simply create a skeleton tiddler
that has the task tag, and then include something like this where you want
the button to appear:

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="MyTaskSkeletonTiddler">Create
Task

In due course there will be a new here function, too.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:25 PM, David Gifford  wrote:

> I agree. The ability to create a new button with options: new with tag,
> new here (that is, new and tagged with the title of the originating
> tiddler), new clone from template, etc will be a LIFE-SAVING feature for
> TiddlyWiki 5.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:58:26 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Loving TW5 just found it last week. Some great new functionality.
>> Previously used and loved TW Classic.
>>
>> I need some help modifying how a standard installation of TW5 works.
>>
>> I use the task management function heavily, where you can tag a tiddler
>> as DONE and TASK and TW5 automatically creates a task list for you?
>>
>> I would like to modify the Green + which creates a new tiddler. I want to
>> duplicate it and whenever it creates a new tiddler I want the button to
>> automatically tag the tiddler with Task. I also want to change the button
>> picture for my custom New Task Tiddler to a "T" for task.
>>
>> Please advise on how to do this? And or point me to where I should read
>> about modifying tiddlywiki in this way?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>>
>> Josh.
>>
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[tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

[David Gifford]

I agree. The ability to create a new button with options: new with tag, new 
here (that is, new and tagged with the title of the originating tiddler), 
new clone from template, etc will be a LIFE-SAVING feature for TiddlyWiki 5.

Dave

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:58:26 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
>
> Loving TW5 just found it last week. Some great new functionality. 
> Previously used and loved TW Classic. 
>
> I need some help modifying how a standard installation of TW5 works. 
>
> I use the task management function heavily, where you can tag a tiddler as 
> DONE and TASK and TW5 automatically creates a task list for you?
>
> I would like to modify the Green + which creates a new tiddler. I want to 
> duplicate it and whenever it creates a new tiddler I want the button to 
> automatically tag the tiddler with Task. I also want to change the button 
> picture for my custom New Task Tiddler to a "T" for task. 
>
> Please advise on how to do this? And or point me to where I should read 
> about modifying tiddlywiki in this way?
>
> Many Thanks, 
>
> Josh.
>

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