Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[BJ]

how would one go about adding an annotation to the plugin for such a third 
party license?

cheers

BJ


On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:47:18 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Måns
>
> How frustrating. The license for VexTab definitely prevents us from 
> distributing it under the same licensing terms as TW itself.
>
> I think that rules out making it any kind of official plugin that is 
> distributed from tiddlywiki.com.
>
> I remain very happy to help if anyone else is interested in creating a 
> widget around vextab.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:04 PM, BJ > 
> wrote:
>
>> I'll take a look and see if there is a way to use vexflow on its own. On 
>> a first glace it seems that vextab is a compiler that produces scripts for 
>> vexflow.  
>>
>> BJ
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:11:51 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi TwAfficionados 
>>>
>>> Mohit returned a positive answer yesterday:
>>>
>>> >Mohit: "Thanks for the e-mail. I'm okay with someone else building a 
>>> TiddlyWiki plugin, but I'm not sure that the licenses are compatible. 
>>> VexTab is free so long as it is not used for commercial purposes and the 
>>> vexflow.com logo remains visible.
>>> If you can annotate your plugins with some text mentioning that this is 
>>> for non-commercial use only, then I have no problem with it."
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if it's enough to apply with TW's BSD license - if the 
>>> plugin is distributed "standalone" from Github? If Github is used as an 
>>> official repository for the plugin - and it's not presented as part of an 
>>> "official TW5 package" - eg. installed at tiddlywiki.com?? 
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>>
>>> Den onsdag den 28. maj 2014 18.32.00 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi Jeremy

 You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab 
> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would 
> be 
> worth talking to the author though.
>

 Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when 
 I invited him to the Hangout.
 As you know my first language is far from being English - however I 
 wrote this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:

 "Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)

 On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are 
 allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.

 TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well 
 with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should 
 be able to redistribute it.. 

 Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in 
 building a VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - 
 because 
 " The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to 
 turn into a TW5 widget."

 I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user, 
 and I would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord 
 diagrams directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to 
 be 
 a database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than 
 standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to 
 name a few.

 Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?

 If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license 
 types?

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Links: 
 http://tiddlywiki.com
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";

 Hope it's ok..?

 Cheers Måns 

>>>
>
>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[BJ]

Who would one go about adding an annotation to the plugin for such a third 
party license?

cheers

BJ

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:47:18 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Måns
>
> How frustrating. The license for VexTab definitely prevents us from 
> distributing it under the same licensing terms as TW itself.
>
> I think that rules out making it any kind of official plugin that is 
> distributed from tiddlywiki.com.
>
> I remain very happy to help if anyone else is interested in creating a 
> widget around vextab.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:04 PM, BJ > 
> wrote:
>
>> I'll take a look and see if there is a way to use vexflow on its own. On 
>> a first glace it seems that vextab is a compiler that produces scripts for 
>> vexflow.  
>>
>> BJ
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:11:51 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi TwAfficionados 
>>>
>>> Mohit returned a positive answer yesterday:
>>>
>>> >Mohit: "Thanks for the e-mail. I'm okay with someone else building a 
>>> TiddlyWiki plugin, but I'm not sure that the licenses are compatible. 
>>> VexTab is free so long as it is not used for commercial purposes and the 
>>> vexflow.com logo remains visible.
>>> If you can annotate your plugins with some text mentioning that this is 
>>> for non-commercial use only, then I have no problem with it."
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if it's enough to apply with TW's BSD license - if the 
>>> plugin is distributed "standalone" from Github? If Github is used as an 
>>> official repository for the plugin - and it's not presented as part of an 
>>> "official TW5 package" - eg. installed at tiddlywiki.com?? 
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>>
>>> Den onsdag den 28. maj 2014 18.32.00 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi Jeremy

 You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab 
> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would 
> be 
> worth talking to the author though.
>

 Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when 
 I invited him to the Hangout.
 As you know my first language is far from being English - however I 
 wrote this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:

 "Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)

 On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are 
 allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.

 TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well 
 with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should 
 be able to redistribute it.. 

 Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in 
 building a VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - 
 because 
 " The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to 
 turn into a TW5 widget."

 I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user, 
 and I would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord 
 diagrams directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to 
 be 
 a database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than 
 standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to 
 name a few.

 Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?

 If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license 
 types?

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Links: 
 http://tiddlywiki.com
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";

 Hope it's ok..?

 Cheers Måns 

>>>
>
>
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> Jeremy Ruston
> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com 
>  

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Måns

How frustrating. The license for VexTab definitely prevents us from
distributing it under the same licensing terms as TW itself.

I think that rules out making it any kind of official plugin that is
distributed from tiddlywiki.com.

I remain very happy to help if anyone else is interested in creating a
widget around vextab.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:04 PM, BJ  wrote:

> I'll take a look and see if there is a way to use vexflow on its own. On a
> first glace it seems that vextab is a compiler that produces scripts for
> vexflow.
>
> BJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:11:51 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
>>
>> Hi TwAfficionados
>>
>> Mohit returned a positive answer yesterday:
>>
>> >Mohit: "Thanks for the e-mail. I'm okay with someone else building a
>> TiddlyWiki plugin, but I'm not sure that the licenses are compatible.
>> VexTab is free so long as it is not used for commercial purposes and the
>> vexflow.com logo remains visible.
>> If you can annotate your plugins with some text mentioning that this is
>> for non-commercial use only, then I have no problem with it."
>>
>> I'm not sure if it's enough to apply with TW's BSD license - if the
>> plugin is distributed "standalone" from Github? If Github is used as an
>> official repository for the plugin - and it's not presented as part of an
>> "official TW5 package" - eg. installed at tiddlywiki.com??
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>>
>> Den onsdag den 28. maj 2014 18.32.00 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeremy
>>>
>>> You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab
 under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be
 worth talking to the author though.

>>>
>>> Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when
>>> I invited him to the Hangout.
>>> As you know my first language is far from being English - however I
>>> wrote this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:
>>>
>>> "Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)
>>>
>>> On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are
>>> allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.
>>>
>>> TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well
>>> with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should
>>> be able to redistribute it..
>>>
>>> Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in building
>>> a VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - because " The
>>> API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to turn
>>> into a TW5 widget."
>>>
>>> I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user,
>>> and I would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord
>>> diagrams directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to be
>>> a database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than
>>> standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to
>>> name a few.
>>>
>>> Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?
>>>
>>> If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license
>>> types?
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";
>>>
>>> Hope it's ok..?
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns
>>>
>>


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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[BJ]

I'll take a look and see if there is a way to use vexflow on its own. On a 
first glace it seems that vextab is a compiler that produces scripts for 
vexflow.  

BJ

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:11:51 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi TwAfficionados 
>
> Mohit returned a positive answer yesterday:
>
> >Mohit: "Thanks for the e-mail. I'm okay with someone else building a 
> TiddlyWiki plugin, but I'm not sure that the licenses are compatible. 
> VexTab is free so long as it is not used for commercial purposes and the 
> vexflow.com logo remains visible.
> If you can annotate your plugins with some text mentioning that this is 
> for non-commercial use only, then I have no problem with it."
>
> I'm not sure if it's enough to apply with TW's BSD license - if the plugin 
> is distributed "standalone" from Github? If Github is used as an official 
> repository for the plugin - and it's not presented as part of an "official 
> TW5 package" - eg. installed at tiddlywiki.com?? 
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
>
> Den onsdag den 28. maj 2014 18.32.00 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>
>> Hi Jeremy
>>
>> You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab 
>>> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be 
>>> worth talking to the author though.
>>>
>>
>> Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when I 
>> invited him to the Hangout.
>> As you know my first language is far from being English - however I wrote 
>> this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:
>>
>> "Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)
>>
>> On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are 
>> allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.
>>
>> TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well 
>> with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should 
>> be able to redistribute it.. 
>>
>> Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in building 
>> a VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - because " The 
>> API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to turn 
>> into a TW5 widget."
>>
>> I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user, and 
>> I would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord 
>> diagrams directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to be 
>> a database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than 
>> standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to 
>> name a few.
>>
>> Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?
>>
>> If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license 
>> types?
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> Links: 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";
>>
>> Hope it's ok..?
>>
>> Cheers Måns 
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Hi TwAfficionados 

Mohit returned a positive answer yesterday:

>Mohit: "Thanks for the e-mail. I'm okay with someone else building a 
TiddlyWiki plugin, but I'm not sure that the licenses are compatible. 
VexTab is free so long as it is not used for commercial purposes and the 
vexflow.com logo remains visible.
If you can annotate your plugins with some text mentioning that this is for 
non-commercial use only, then I have no problem with it."

I'm not sure if it's enough to apply with TW's BSD license - if the plugin 
is distributed "standalone" from Github? If Github is used as an official 
repository for the plugin - and it's not presented as part of an "official 
TW5 package" - eg. installed at tiddlywiki.com?? 

Cheers Måns Mårtensson


Den onsdag den 28. maj 2014 18.32.00 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
> Hi Jeremy
>
> You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab 
>> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be 
>> worth talking to the author though.
>>
>
> Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when I 
> invited him to the Hangout.
> As you know my first language is far from being English - however I wrote 
> this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:
>
> "Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)
>
> On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are 
> allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.
>
> TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well 
> with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should 
> be able to redistribute it.. 
>
> Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in building a 
> VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - because " The API 
> of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to turn into 
> a TW5 widget."
>
> I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user, and 
> I would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord 
> diagrams directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to be 
> a database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than 
> standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to 
> name a few.
>
> Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?
>
> If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license 
> types?
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Links: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";
>
> Hope it's ok..?
>
> Cheers Måns 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Måns

That looks good, thank you for taking the lead on this, much appreciated,

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Måns  wrote:

> Hi Jeremy
>
>
> You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab
>> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be
>> worth talking to the author though.
>>
>
> Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when I
> invited him to the Hangout.
> As you know my first language is far from being English - however I wrote
> this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:
>
> "Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)
>
> On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are
> allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.
>
> TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well
> with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should
> be able to redistribute it..
>
> Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in building a
> VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - because " The API
> of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to turn into
> a TW5 widget."
>
> I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user, and
> I would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord
> diagrams directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to be
> a database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than
> standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to
> name a few.
>
> Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?
>
> If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license
> types?
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Links:
> http://tiddlywiki.com
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";
>
> Hope it's ok..?
>
> Cheers Måns
>



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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Hi Jeremy

You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab 
> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be 
> worth talking to the author though.
>

Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) did not answer when I 
invited him to the Hangout.
As you know my first language is far from being English - however I wrote 
this to Mohit a couple of minutes ago:

"Hi Mohit Muthanna (0xFE)

On the TiddlyWIki mail list/google group we are discussing if we are 
allowed to create a plugin/redistribute VexTab as a plugin for TiddlyWIki.

TiddlyWiki is licensed with BSD. VexFlow is MIT and it should work well 
with BSD. ... but VexTab however would need some adjustments if we should 
be able to redistribute it.. 

Jeremy Ruston, the creator of TiddlyWiki, has shown interest in building a 
VexTab plugin for TiddlyWiki, live in a Google Hangout - because " The API 
of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to turn into 
a TW5 widget."

I'm a music teacher, a guitarist and a long time TiddlyWiki end user, and I 
would love to be able to work with musical scores and write chord diagrams 
directly in my own personal portable wiki which also happens to be a 
database and a blog like application which is much more versatile than 
standard word processors like eg. Google Docs or Office Word... Just to 
name a few.

Would you be interested in the making of a plugin for TiddlyWiki?

If you are - how do we make it work - regarding the question of license 
types?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Links: 
http://tiddlywiki.com
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/nh5vMpPeEvg";

Hope it's ok..?

Cheers Måns 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[PMario]

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:18:02 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab 
> under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be 
> worth talking to the author though.
>

VexFlow is MIT and would works well with BSD. ... but VexTab would need 
some adjustments. 

-m

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Jeremy Ruston]

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:02 AM, BJ  wrote:

> I'm not sure if redistribution of vextab is allowed, on
> http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/ it says:
> "
> VexTab is an open specification and the reference implementation is open
> source. It is freely available complete and uncrippled for non-commercial
> use.
>
> If you would like to use this code on commercial websites, products,
> plugins, or tools, please get in touch with me. (I'm very reasonable.)
>
> Note that the underlying library, VexFlow, is completely open source and
> distributed under the MIT license.
>
You're right, it does present problems if we can't redistribute VexTab
under the same BSD license as TiddlyWiki itself. It sounds like it would be
worth talking to the author though.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> "
> ?
> BJ
>
>
> On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:44:54 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to
>> turn into a TW5 widget.
>>
>> There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested
>> parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what
>> would be involved.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Yakov  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Russ,
>>>
>>> if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using
>>> vextab, I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW
>>> Classic only, unfortunately.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yakov.
>>>
>>> суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:

 Hi Mans

 I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long
 time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of
 reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago
 but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are
 thin to say the least.

 Somewhere  I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them
 out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.

 Russ


  On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns  wrote:

> seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as
> all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...
>
> See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html
>
> I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer
> who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?
>
> Thank you for sharing Russ :-)
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
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>> Hi Russ
>>
>> >Have you seen 
>> >http://www.vexflow.com/?
>> >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>>>
>>
>> Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking
>> musical notation without the need of external libraries!
>> Very nice :-)
>>
>>  I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...
>>
>> This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[BJ]

I'm not sure if redistribution of vextab is allowed, on 
http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/ it says:
" 
VexTab is an open specification and the reference implementation is open 
source. It is freely available complete and uncrippled for non-commercial 
use. 

If you would like to use this code on commercial websites, products, 
plugins, or tools, please get in touch with me. (I'm very reasonable.) 

Note that the underlying library, VexFlow, is completely open source and 
distributed under the MIT license. 
"
?
BJ

On Monday, May 26, 2014 10:44:54 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to 
> turn into a TW5 widget.
>
> There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested 
> parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what 
> would be involved.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Yakov 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab, 
>> I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic 
>> only, unfortunately.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>
>> суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:
>>>
>>> Hi Mans
>>>
>>> I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long 
>>> time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of 
>>> reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago 
>>> but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are 
>>> thin to say the least.
>>>
>>> Somewhere  I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them 
>>> out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns  wrote:
>>>
 seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as 
 all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

 See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

 I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer 
 who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

 Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

> Hi Russ
>
> >Have you seen 
> >http://www.vexflow.com/?
> >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>>
>
> Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
> musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
> Very nice :-)
>
>  I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...
>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Hi Jeremy

I am not able to attend the Hangout tomorrow because I'm busy working. I 
don't think I have the skills to be able to follow the walktrough and 
create a widget myself, 

I have however contacted Mohit Muthanna (0xFE ) 
via G+ and invited him to attend the hangout if he is interested in the 
making of a Vextab TiddlyWiki widget/plugin.

If you want to try out VexTab as a Google Docs extension you can add it 
from here: 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vextab-music-notation/pjggkphnejbllmmkmmgibonkbbhfjnkk

Cheers Måns Mårtensson
 
Den mandag den 26. maj 2014 23.44.54 UTC+2 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>
> The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to 
> turn into a TW5 widget.
>
> There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested 
> parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what 
> would be involved.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Yakov 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab, 
>> I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic 
>> only, unfortunately.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>
>> суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:
>>>
>>> Hi Mans
>>>
>>> I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long 
>>> time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of 
>>> reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago 
>>> but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are 
>>> thin to say the least.
>>>
>>> Somewhere  I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them 
>>> out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns  wrote:
>>>
 seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as 
 all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

 See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

 I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer 
 who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

 Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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> Hi Russ
>
> >Have you seen 
> >http://www.vexflow.com/?
> >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>>
>
> Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
> musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
> Very nice :-)
>
>  I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...
>
> This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html   
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Jeremy Ruston]

The API of VexTab is nice and flexible and would be particularly easy to
turn into a TW5 widget.

There's a TiddlyWiki hangout due tomorrow at 4pm BST, if any interested
parties would be able to show up I'd be happy to talk you through what
would be involved.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Yakov wrote:

> Hi Russ,
>
> if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab,
> I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic
> only, unfortunately.
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:
>>
>> Hi Mans
>>
>> I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long
>> time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of
>> reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago
>> but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are
>> thin to say the least.
>>
>> Somewhere  I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them
>> out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>>
>> On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns  wrote:
>>
>>> seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as
>>> all it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...
>>>
>>> See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html
>>>
>>> I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer
>>> who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing Russ :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>> Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>>
 Hi Russ

 >Have you seen 
 >http://www.vexflow.com/?
 >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>

 Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking
 musical notation without the need of external libraries!
 Very nice :-)

 I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...

 This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Yakov]

Hi Russ,

if TW API knowledge is the only obstacle to making a plugin using vextab, 
I'll help you with the API with pleasure; but this applies to TW Classic 
only, unfortunately.

Best regards,
Yakov.

суббота, 24 мая 2014 г., 18:54:49 UTC+4 пользователь Russ написал:
>
> Hi Mans
>
> I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long 
> time ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of 
> reusing it embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago 
> but didn't get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are 
> thin to say the least.
>
> Somewhere  I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them 
> out and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns > wrote:
>
>> seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as all 
>> it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...
>>
>> See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html
>>
>> I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer 
>> who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?
>>
>> Thank you for sharing Russ :-)
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>
>>> Hi Russ
>>>
>>> >Have you seen 
>>> >http://www.vexflow.com/?
>>> >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.

>>>
>>> Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
>>> musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
>>> Very nice :-)
>>>
>>> I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...
>>>
>>> This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html   
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Russ Thomas]

Hi Mans

I found vextab (and have been following the developer's tweets) a long time
ago.  Sadly, I haven't kept up with it from the point of view of reusing it
embedded elsewhere (like TW).  I did try around three years ago but didn't
get very far... my TW coding skills (read: API knowledge) are thin to say
the least.

Somewhere  I have some more related links... I'll try to dig them out
and if they're still good/relevant I'll post again.

Russ


On 22 May 2014 17:04, Måns  wrote:

> seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as all
> it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...
>
> See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html
>
> I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer
> who'd like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?
>
> Thank you for sharing Russ :-)
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
>> Hi Russ
>>
>> >Have you seen 
>> >http://www.vexflow.com/?
>> >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>>>
>>
>> Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking
>> musical notation without the need of external libraries!
>> Very nice :-)
>>
>> I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...
>>
>> This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

seems to be something which could be easily made into a TW5 plugin as all 
it needs is Html5, Canvas and Raphael...

See: http://www.vexflow.com/docs/tutorial.html

I'd love to see that happen - is there a musical programmer/developer who'd 
like to turn TW5 into a standalone musical notebook?

Thank you for sharing Russ :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Den torsdag den 22. maj 2014 23.56.06 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
> Hi Russ
>
> >Have you seen 
> >http://www.vexflow.com/?
> >  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>>
>
> Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
> musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
> Very nice :-)
>
> I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...
>
> This : http://www.vexflow.com/vextab/tutorial.html   
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Hi Russ

>Have you seen 
>http://www.vexflow.com/?
>  When you're there, check out vextab, also.
>

Nope - I didn't know about it - it seems to render very nice looking 
musical notation without the need of external libraries! 
Very nice :-)

I wouldn't know how to implement it in TiddlyWiki though...

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Russ Thomas]

Hi Mans

Have you seen http://www.vexflow.com/ ?  When you're there, check out
vextab, also.

Russ


On 20 May 2014 18:03, Måns  wrote:

> TW5 examples:
>
> http://bopland-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted
>
> http://jtab-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/#jTabUsage
>
> Enjoy
>
> Den onsdag den 21. maj 2014 00.04.21 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
>> Forgot to link to a twc jtabplugin example:
>>
>> http://jtab.tiddlyspot.com/#jTabPlugin
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 23.35.42 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>>
>>> Same thing is possible with jTab from 
>>> tardate
>>>  (guitar
>>> chords and tab notation)
>>>
>>> Create a tiddler eg.: $:/_jTab_render
>>> tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup
>>> write:
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   
>>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/
>>> css/jtab-helper.css"/>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jquery.js";
>>> type="text/javascript">
>>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/raphael.js";
>>> type="text/javascript">
>>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jtab.js";
>>> type="text/javascript">
>>>
>>> save wiki and reload page.
>>> Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the jtab class it will render
>>> as guitar tabs or as simple guitar chord diagrams..
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> 
>>> C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
>>> 
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> @@.jtab
>>> C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
>>> @@
>>>
>>> which will also work..
>>>
>>> It is recommended  that you download and
>>> refer to the tardate scripts from your own server as the rendition might
>>> get a little slow when served from http://jtab.tardate.com/ ...
>>>
>>> We have a nice plugin for TWc which doesn't need any external script
>>> references. It would be very nice if someone ported it to TW5 :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>> Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 22.55.51 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi TwWizards

 BJ just gave me the answer to this question in another 
 thread
  .
 The simple solution is to create a tiddler eg: $:/_bopland_render_js
 tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup
 write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>  -
 save wiki and reload page.

 Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the bopland class it will
 render as a playable note sheet, which can be transposed, downloaded as an
 image or as a mp3 file.

 Example:
 
 lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7
 b4 r r2 |
 

 It doesn't work with:
 @@.bopland
 lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7
 b4 r r2 |
 @@


 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 Den onsdag den 15. januar 2014 10.32.40 UTC+1 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Stephan Hradek 
> wrote:
>
>> While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@
>> block to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child
>> objects?
>>
>

>
> Yes I remember.
>
> I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply
>> created with
>>
>> @@bopland
>> musical notes here
>> @@
>>
>>
> Right, I was talking about how to get the script loaded up in the
> first place, by packaging it into a plugin.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

TW5 examples:

http://bopland-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted

http://jtab-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/#jTabUsage

Enjoy

Den onsdag den 21. maj 2014 00.04.21 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
> Forgot to link to a twc jtabplugin example:
>
> http://jtab.tiddlyspot.com/#jTabPlugin
>
> Cheers
>
> Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 23.35.42 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>
>> Same thing is possible with jTab from 
>> tardate 
>> (guitar 
>> chords and tab notation)
>>
>> Create a tiddler eg.: $:/_jTab_render
>> tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
>> write:
>> 
>>   
>>   
>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/css/jtab-helper.css"/>
>>
>>   
>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jquery.js"; 
>> type="text/javascript">
>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/raphael.js"; 
>> type="text/javascript">
>>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jtab.js"; 
>> type="text/javascript">
>>
>> save wiki and reload page.
>> Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the jtab class it will render 
>> as guitar tabs or as simple guitar chord diagrams..
>>
>> Example: 
>>
>> 
>> C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
>> 
>>
>> or 
>>
>> @@.jtab
>> C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
>> @@
>>
>> which will also work..
>>
>> It is recommended  that you download and refer 
>> to the tardate scripts from your own server as the rendition might get a 
>> little slow when served from http://jtab.tardate.com/ ...
>>
>> We have a nice plugin for TWc which doesn't need any external script 
>> references. It would be very nice if someone ported it to TW5 :-)
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson   
>>
>> Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 22.55.51 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>>
>>> Hi TwWizards
>>>
>>> BJ just gave me the answer to this question in another 
>>> thread
>>>  . 
>>> The simple solution is to create a tiddler eg: $:/_bopland_render_js 
>>> tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
>>> write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>  - 
>>> save wiki and reload page.
>>>
>>> Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the bopland class it will 
>>> render as a playable note sheet, which can be transposed, downloaded as an 
>>> image or as a mp3 file.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> 
>>> lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 
>>> b4 r r2 | 
>>> 
>>>
>>> It doesn't work with:
>>> @@.bopland
>>> lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 
>>> b4 r r2 | 
>>> @@
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>> Den onsdag den 15. januar 2014 10.32.40 UTC+1 skrev Jeremy Ruston:

 On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Stephan Hradek 
 wrote:

> While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@ 
> block to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child 
> objects?
>
  
>>>

 Yes I remember. 

 I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply 
> created with
>
> @@bopland
> musical notes here
> @@
>
>
 Right, I was talking about how to get the script loaded up in the first 
 place, by packaging it into a plugin.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy 



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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Forgot to link to a twc jtabplugin example:

http://jtab.tiddlyspot.com/#jTabPlugin

Cheers

Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 23.35.42 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
> Same thing is possible with jTab from 
> tardate 
> (guitar 
> chords and tab notation)
>
> Create a tiddler eg.: $:/_jTab_render
> tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
> write:
> 
>   
>   
>   http://jtab.tardate.com/css/jtab-helper.css"/>
>
>   
>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jquery.js"; 
> type="text/javascript">
>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/raphael.js"; 
> type="text/javascript">
>   http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jtab.js"; 
> type="text/javascript">
>
> save wiki and reload page.
> Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the jtab class it will render as 
> guitar tabs or as simple guitar chord diagrams..
>
> Example: 
>
> 
> C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
> 
>
> or 
>
> @@.jtab
> C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
> @@
>
> which will also work..
>
> It is recommended  that you download and refer 
> to the tardate scripts from your own server as the rendition might get a 
> little slow when served from http://jtab.tardate.com/ ...
>
> We have a nice plugin for TWc which doesn't need any external script 
> references. It would be very nice if someone ported it to TW5 :-)
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson   
>
> Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 22.55.51 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>
>> Hi TwWizards
>>
>> BJ just gave me the answer to this question in another 
>> thread
>>  . 
>> The simple solution is to create a tiddler eg: $:/_bopland_render_js 
>> tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
>> write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>  - 
>> save wiki and reload page.
>>
>> Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the bopland class it will 
>> render as a playable note sheet, which can be transposed, downloaded as an 
>> image or as a mp3 file.
>>
>> Example:
>> 
>> lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 
>> r r2 | 
>> 
>>
>> It doesn't work with:
>> @@.bopland
>> lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 
>> r r2 | 
>> @@
>>
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> Den onsdag den 15. januar 2014 10.32.40 UTC+1 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>>>
 While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@ 
 block to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child 
 objects?

>>>  
>>
>>>
>>> Yes I remember. 
>>>
>>> I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply 
 created with

 @@bopland
 musical notes here
 @@


>>> Right, I was talking about how to get the script loaded up in the first 
>>> place, by packaging it into a plugin.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Same thing is possible with jTab from 
tardate 
(guitar 
chords and tab notation)

Create a tiddler eg.: $:/_jTab_render
tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
write:

  
  
  http://jtab.tardate.com/css/jtab-helper.css"/>

  
  http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jquery.js"; 
type="text/javascript">
  http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/raphael.js"; 
type="text/javascript">
  http://jtab.tardate.com/javascripts/jtab.js"; 
type="text/javascript">

save wiki and reload page.
Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the jtab class it will render as 
guitar tabs or as simple guitar chord diagrams..

Example: 


C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5


or 

@@.jtab
C:1 C:2 C:3 C:4 C:5
@@

which will also work..

It is recommended  that you download and refer to 
the tardate scripts from your own server as the rendition might get a 
little slow when served from http://jtab.tardate.com/ ...

We have a nice plugin for TWc which doesn't need any external script 
references. It would be very nice if someone ported it to TW5 :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson   

Den tirsdag den 20. maj 2014 22.55.51 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
> Hi TwWizards
>
> BJ just gave me the answer to this question in another 
> thread
>  . 
> The simple solution is to create a tiddler eg: $:/_bopland_render_js 
> tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
> write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>  - 
> save wiki and reload page.
>
> Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the bopland class it will render 
> as a playable note sheet, which can be transposed, downloaded as an image 
> or as a mp3 file.
>
> Example:
> 
> lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 
> r r2 | 
> 
>
> It doesn't work with:
> @@.bopland
> lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 
> r r2 | 
> @@
>
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> Den onsdag den 15. januar 2014 10.32.40 UTC+1 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>>
>>> While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@ 
>>> block to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child 
>>> objects?
>>>
>>  
>
>>
>> Yes I remember. 
>>
>> I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply created 
>>> with
>>>
>>> @@bopland
>>> musical notes here
>>> @@
>>>
>>>
>> Right, I was talking about how to get the script loaded up in the first 
>> place, by packaging it into a plugin.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy 
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com
>>  
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Hi TwWizards

BJ just gave me the answer to this question in another 
thread
 . 
The simple solution is to create a tiddler eg: $:/_bopland_render_js 
tag it with: $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup 
write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>  - 
save wiki and reload page.

Now if you wrap your musical notes inside the bopland class it will render 
as a playable note sheet, which can be transposed, downloaded as an image 
or as a mp3 file.

Example:

lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 r 
r2 | 


It doesn't work with:
@@.bopland
lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 r 
r2 | 
@@


Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Den onsdag den 15. januar 2014 10.32.40 UTC+1 skrev Jeremy Ruston:
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Stephan Hradek 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@ 
>> block to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child 
>> objects?
>>
>  

>
> Yes I remember. 
>
> I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply created 
>> with
>>
>> @@bopland
>> musical notes here
>> @@
>>
>>
> Right, I was talking about how to get the script loaded up in the first 
> place, by packaging it into a plugin.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy 
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jeremy Ruston
> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com 
>  

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Jeremy Ruston]

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Stephan Hradek wrote:

> While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@ block
> to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child objects?
>

Yes I remember.

I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply created
> with
>
> @@bopland
> musical notes here
> @@
>
>
Right, I was talking about how to get the script loaded up in the first
place, by packaging it into a plugin.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Stephan Hradek]

Hi Jeremy!

While we are at it: Do you remember that you wanted to change the @@ block 
to create a classed div instead of applying the class to all child objects?

I think this would also help here as a bopland div is then simply created 
with

@@bopland
musical notes here
@@


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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Måns

In TW5 there's a different approach to getting external libraries like
bopland integrated.

Instead of using a script tag to include the script, it gets wrapped up
into a plugin, and then one or more TW5 modules are used to integrate it.

Have a look for example at the CodeMirror plugin:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Måns  wrote:

> Hi TiddlyWikiWizards
>
> Does anyone know how to do the same thing in a new TW (5) ??
> Is there something like a MarkupPostHead tiddler in a TW5?
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
>
> Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 03.23.02 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>>
>> Hi TWafficionados
>>
>> Just found out how easy it is to write,edit and publish musical notes in
>> a TW* - and wanted to share my new found insight with you:
>>
>> 1) Write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>   in
>> your MarkupPostHead tiddler (save & reload)
>>
>> 2) Create a template eg. "Bop" containing:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> $1
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 3) Use it like this:
>>
>> <> Your musical code here
>> ">>
>>
>>
>> My example: 
>> BopNotes
>>
>> Have fun :-)
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> *) You'll need to be connected to the internet to use it.
>>
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[tw] Re: TW5: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services?

[Måns]

Hi TiddlyWikiWizards

Does anyone know how to do the same thing in a new TW (5) ??
Is there something like a MarkupPostHead tiddler in a TW5?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson


Den torsdag den 17. oktober 2013 03.23.02 UTC+2 skrev Måns:
>
> Hi TWafficionados
>
> Just found out how easy it is to write,edit and publish musical notes in a 
> TW* - and wanted to share my new found insight with you:
>
> 1) Write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>   in 
> your MarkupPostHead tiddler (save & reload)
>
> 2) Create a template eg. "Bop" containing: 
>
> 
> 
> $1
> 
>  
>
>
> 3) Use it like this:
>
> < Your musical code here
> ">>
>
>
> My example: 
> BopNotes
>
> Have fun :-)
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>
> *) You'll need to be connected to the internet to use it.
>

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