[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> Now, as it is possible to make a menu switch without opening a tiddler
> in the display area of MenuMore - together with dynamically widening
> main menus - the problem arises that the display area does not
> refresh. Therefore leaving gaps with varied width main menus
> switched.
>
> I tried it with pasting different code snippets, for example:
> story.refreshDisplay(); return false;}">$1 - but it didn't
> work to cause a refresh. What would be the right way?
>
story.refreshTiddler(getAttribute('tiddler'),null,true); return
false;;}">$1
- did the trick. It only doesn't always work with Shadowed tiddlers
though. Which isn't really an issue at all.
On 1 Jun., 09:37, Måns wrote:
> Great Wolfgang - I think your MenuFlex should be announced - with it's
> own thread - so I took the liberty!
> Hope it's
> ok.http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/6da158...
> > However, it still needs some more polishing.
>
Except for some of the individual menus - especially the automatic
creation of nestled popups with tags - the theme itself with the
function for switching between individual main menus is pretty
polished now.
:-)
http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/
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[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> > You need to make sure that each link handler (the > href="javascript:" part) ends with: >return false; > > This will prevent the browser from atttempting a page transition. > . > > However, it still needs some more polishing. > Now, as it is possible to make a menu switch without opening a tiddler in the display area of MenuMore - together with dynamically widening main menus - the problem arises that the display area does not refresh. Therefore leaving gap,s with varied width main menus switched. I tried it with pasting different code snippets, for example: story.refreshDisplay(); return false;}">$1 - but it didn't work to cause a refresh. What would be the right way? Regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> Great Wolfgang - I think your MenuFlex should be announced - with it's > own thread - so I took the liberty! > Hope it's > ok.http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/6da158... > Thanks Mans, the main bugs have been ironed out. However, it still needs some more polishing. regards... > YS Måns Mårtensson > On Jun 1, 2:50 am, wolfgang wrote: > > > > > I'm also interessted in finding out how to make the left menubar open > > > > with one of the mainmenus on startup... > > > > We'll have to compare it with the original code again Mans, since it > > > does it in the original MenuMore. > > > Hureka, found the culprit. > > Only one more display:block; for mainMenuA was all what was needed. > > Now the main MainMenu does open on a startup. > > > regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
Great Wolfgang - I think your MenuFlex should be announced - with it's own thread - so I took the liberty! Hope it's ok. http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/6da1582e325a46a5?hl=en YS Måns Mårtensson On Jun 1, 2:50 am, wolfgang wrote: > > > I'm also interessted in finding out how to make the left menubar open > > > with one of the mainmenus on startup... > > > We'll have to compare it with the original code again Mans, since it > > does it in the original MenuMore. > > Hureka, found the culprit. > Only one more display:block; for mainMenuA was all what was needed. > Now the main MainMenu does open on a startup. > > regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> > I'm also interessted in finding out how to make the left menubar open > > with one of the mainmenus on startup... > > We'll have to compare it with the original code again Mans, since it > does it in the original MenuMore. > Hureka, found the culprit. Only one more display:block; for mainMenuA was all what was needed. Now the main MainMenu does open on a startup. regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> Wow, just realized that with the slight changing of 'onclick' to > 'onhover' MenuMore's top menu items can easily be changed to opening > on hover (well, not every one is as bright ;-). Replacing many plugins > > But 'on hover' is not always that beneficial, especially with the some more brightness ;-) 'onhover' should of course read: 'onmouseover' --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> > How about a html ThumbThing for text? - Opening a popup with tiddler > > content by hovering above a link? > > You can achieve this with just a slight tweak to >http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ShowPopup > by changing >onclick="..." > to >onmouseover="..." > > enjoy, > -e Wow, just realized that with the slight changing of 'onclick' to 'onhover' MenuMore's top menu items can easily be changed to opening on hover (well, not every one is as bright ;-). Replacing many plugins which I use in combination - to create elaborate menus and have fast access to deeply buried content of my TWs - as there are: PopupTipsPlugin, DropdownMenuPlugin, NestedSlidersPlugin, MoveablePanelsPlugin, InlineJavascriptPlugin... But 'on hover' is not always that beneficial, especially with the adaptation of MenuMore to open with variable width MainMenus (css by FND). Though I found simple html scripts to toggle the PageTemplate, the sidebar menus and tried to adapt these. Still, by fail and trial I haven't been able to change them to a simple class change: from 'onclick' to 'onhover' and back again, without any further dependencies (ie. InlineJavascriptPlugin). Therefore my question: How a html script switch in this case would look like? Some more questions, which arose out of creating most possible flexible menus without dependencies to any plugins from this other thread: http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/dd115fffaa4375de/68acc6d5d58284c9 > > 1) As it is, a onhover popups open below and at the first letter of a > popup link. How do I change the css to have it open to the left of it? > > 2) Also I haven't found out where I lost the original behavior of > MenuMore to start up with an opened MainMenu. Any help with this, > or a different solution would be highly appreciated. > > 3) How do I trim the search box, so it can be placed into the TopMenu > without widening it? > > 4) I'm grateful for any other suggestion, other css tweaks or html > scripts worth the inclusion... ... especially ways of transclusion to make this otherwise very mistake prone adaptation of MenuMore more foolproof to those without prior knowledge of html and css. regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> Here's a better bit of HTML syntax using the onclick="..." handler > > http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
Am I so lucky that this will make it possible to use HTMLFormattingPlugin as well?? I've tried to insert the command into the htmlcode - with no effect... YS Måns Mårtensson On May 26, 2:51 am, Eric Shulman wrote: > > Clicking the items in the TopMenu: > > 'PageTemplate' shows the effect of removing > > story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuItems'); > > 'StyleSheet' by also replacing > > story.closeAllTiddlers(); with return false; > > What I've done wrong? > > Because you are using the href="..." to define the handler, you can't > use the 'return false;' syntax. > > Here's a better bit of HTML syntax using the onclick="..." handler > > StyleSheet > > -e --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> Clicking the items in the TopMenu: > 'PageTemplate' shows the effect of removing > story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuItems'); > 'StyleSheet' by also replacing > story.closeAllTiddlers(); with return false; > What I've done wrong? Because you are using the href="..." to define the handler, you can't use the 'return false;' syntax. Here's a better bit of HTML syntax using the onclick="..." handler StyleSheet -e --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
Thank you Wolfgang.. I've tried to combine TwT-notes with treeview and Dave's MenuMore version with my own TW.. In the process I discovered that MenuMore's javascripts in html - doesn't accept HTMLFormattingPlugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#HTMLFormattingPlugin and Morris' TwT-notes (or treeviewPlugin) doesn't accept EditFieldPlugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#EditFieldPlugin... I can live without both plugins (if I have to ...) - but I know too little about css to alter the stylesheet to make the viewarea fill the screen to the right... And i don't know how to change the tree backgroud to go with the menubar... so it's pretty ugly just now... You can watch/download it here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/NoterMenuer.html - if You'd like to take a look at it... (Sorry ... but it is in Danish) I'm also interessted in finding out how to make the left menubar open with one of the mainmenus on startup... YS Måns Mårtensson On May 26, 1:34 am, wolfgang wrote: > > I couldn't just remove "story.closeAllTiddlers();" and replace it > > with "return false;" - it had no effect what so ever.. > > Thanks for your help Eric. I uploaded a sample TW to: > > http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/ > > Clicking the items in the TopMenu: > 'PageTemplate' shows the effect of removing > story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuItems'); > 'StyleSheet' by also replacing > story.closeAllTiddlers(); with return false; > > What I've done wrong? > > Also, what is the reason the left menu bar isn't opening on startup? > > > > > 2 questions regarding MenuMore: > > > 1) How do I get to the backstage? - > > 2) If there isn't a backstage - how do I upgrade it to 2.5? > > 1) MenuMore is with an older TW Version which didn't had an backstage. > 2) You can import its tiddlers into a new version of TW either through > the backstage, or with Eric's ImportTiddlersPlugin. > > regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> I couldn't just remove "story.closeAllTiddlers();" and replace it > with "return false;" - it had no effect what so ever.. Thanks for your help Eric. I uploaded a sample TW to: http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/ Clicking the items in the TopMenu: 'PageTemplate' shows the effect of removing story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuItems'); 'StyleSheet' by also replacing story.closeAllTiddlers(); with return false; What I've done wrong? Also, what is the reason the left menu bar isn't opening on startup? > > 2 questions regarding MenuMore: > > 1) How do I get to the backstage? - > 2) If there isn't a backstage - how do I upgrade it to 2.5? > 1) MenuMore is with an older TW Version which didn't had an backstage. 2) You can import its tiddlers into a new version of TW either through the backstage, or with Eric's ImportTiddlersPlugin. regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
Hi Wolfgang and Eric I'm trying to customize MenuMore to behave in a way that is similar to Dave Giffords Philemon. I changed the story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuAItems'); to story.displayTiddler(null,'MainTiddler for menuA'); I couldn't just remove "story.closeAllTiddlers();" and replace it with "return false;" - it had no effect what so ever.. But I wanted to show something related to the menuswitch anyway so it doesn't really matter.. 2 questions regarding MenuMore: 1) How do I get to the backstage? - 2) If there isn't a backstage - how do I upgrade it to 2.5? YS Måns Mårtensson On May 25, 10:16 am, wolfgang wrote: > Dave G.: > > > > I'd like to do something like this: > > > >http://oldcat.googlegroups.com/web/MenuMoreEn.html > > > > But it is currently set so that when you click on a topmenu item, the > > > tiddler opens and the tiddler's content also appears in the mainmenu > > > to the left. Is there any way to do this so that the tiddler does not > > > open in the viewer area? I'm not sure how to do that. > > Eric S.: > > > In the above document, the topmenu is defined in [[TopMenu]], and uses > > HTML links to invoke javascript to switch between the menus displayed > > on the left. > > > The javascript for each link contains a line like this: > > story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuAItems'); > > > If you remove that line from each link, it will then only switch the > > left menus without also displaying the corresponding menu definition > > tiddler. > > > -e > > Eric, your advise works for not opening a new tiddler while still > switching the left menu. > But it still closes any open tiddler too. > > By removing also the preceeding line: > > story.closeAllTiddlers(); > > an alert shows up, that I'm about to leave the page, and it does go > blank with a small 'none' in the upper left corner if I proceed. > > Is there any other way to have all tiddler still left open with this > script? > > http://www.giffmex.org/nteng/philemontiddly.html#TopMenuhttp://oldcat.googlegroups.com/web/MenuMoreEn.html?gda=j8YRpUCZpq... > > regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
> Eric, your advise works for not opening a new tiddler while still > switching the left menu. > But it still closes any open tiddler too. > By removing also the preceeding line: > story.closeAllTiddlers(); > an alert shows up, that I'm about to leave the page, and it does go > blank with a small 'none' in the upper left corner if I proceed. You need to make sure that each link handler (the href="javascript:" part) ends with: return false; This will prevent the browser from atttempting a page transition. The reason this occurred is that the 'return value' from the href- invoked script is always equal to the value of the last statement or expression evaluated. "story.closeAllTiddlers()" has an implicit value of 0 (equivalent to 'false'). As such, when that was the last statement, the script was returning false... hence, no page transition. However, when you removed that last statement, the previous statement (i.e., 'docment.getElementById(...).style.display="none") then became the last one... and, because the value of an assignment statement is the same as the value that is being assigned, the script as a whole takes on a 'return value' of "none". The result: a page transition occurs, and the return value "none" is used as the target content for the new page, just as you observed. enjoy, -e --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Way to tweak menumore?
Dave G.: > > I'd like to do something like this: > > >http://oldcat.googlegroups.com/web/MenuMoreEn.html > > > But it is currently set so that when you click on a topmenu item, the > > tiddler opens and the tiddler's content also appears in the mainmenu > > to the left. Is there any way to do this so that the tiddler does not > > open in the viewer area? I'm not sure how to do that. > Eric S.: > In the above document, the topmenu is defined in [[TopMenu]], and uses > HTML links to invoke javascript to switch between the menus displayed > on the left. > > The javascript for each link contains a line like this: >story.displayTiddler(null,'MenuAItems'); > > If you remove that line from each link, it will then only switch the > left menus without also displaying the corresponding menu definition > tiddler. > > -e > Eric, your advise works for not opening a new tiddler while still switching the left menu. But it still closes any open tiddler too. By removing also the preceeding line: story.closeAllTiddlers(); an alert shows up, that I'm about to leave the page, and it does go blank with a small 'none' in the upper left corner if I proceed. Is there any other way to have all tiddler still left open with this script? http://www.giffmex.org/nteng/philemontiddly.html#TopMenu http://oldcat.googlegroups.com/web/MenuMoreEn.html?gda=j8YRpUCZpqdPZP85_wXX8V_YfXizhQoYbyNEKl0KhW4NFxy3V2G1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDTb654oTp4ejupRWMqnTFyP#TopMenu regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
