subject:"\[tw5\] "

As you know the TW vanilla for end user should be customized for example 
one 
may needs to have

 - Highlights.js plugin
 - KaTex plugin
 - Some CSS tiddlers customize for fonts and colorbox
 -  Material theme
 - ...

Is there any way to have a script or a way to bundle all of these into a 
single JSON file to be imported to customize the new empty-5.x.x.html ?
I dont want to do this by adding plugins and tiddlers one by one?

-Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] [TW5]

2018-05-03 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi Tony,

Most often, this the action widget itself that needs to be wrapped in a
macro, so that it can reference variables through the $v$ or $(v)$
mecanism, as in:

\define foo2bar()
<$button>
<$action-createtiddler
   $basetitle="$(newtiddler)$"
   tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}}
   text={{$(sourcetiddler)$!!text}} />

Copy
\end

<$vars sourcetiddler=foo newtiddler=bar>
<>


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On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:59 PM, TonyM  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I have a button to create tiddlers while copying the text field from a
> source tiddler.
>
>
>- I have the source tiddler name in the variable <>
>- I have the new tiddler name in the variable <>
>
>
> I can not identify how to specify ###here### the value in
> <> text field.
>
> <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<> 
> tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}}
> text=###here###/>
> Copy 
>
> I have tried set and macros with no luck so far.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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Re: [tw5] [TW5]

2018-05-03 Thread Xavier Cazin

Tony,

Sorry I meant to have the Copy string inside the button widget of course:

\define foo2bar()
<$button>
<$action-createtiddler
   $basetitle="$(newtiddler)$"
   tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}}
   text={{$(sourcetiddler)$!!text}} />
Copy

\end

<$vars newtiddler=bar sourcetiddler=foo>
<> <>
<>


Cheers,
Xavier.

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On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Xavier Cazin  wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> Most often, this the action widget itself that needs to be wrapped in a
> macro, so that it can reference variables through the $v$ or $(v)$
> mecanism, as in:
>
> \define foo2bar()
> <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler
>$basetitle="$(newtiddler)$"
>tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}}
>text={{$(sourcetiddler)$!!text}} />
> 
> Copy
> \end
>
> <$vars sourcetiddler=foo newtiddler=bar>
> <>
> 
>
> Regards,
> Xavier.
>
> -- Xavier Cazin
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:59 PM, TonyM  wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have a button to create tiddlers while copying the text field from a
>> source tiddler.
>>
>>
>>- I have the source tiddler name in the variable <>
>>- I have the new tiddler name in the variable <>
>>
>>
>> I can not identify how to specify ###here### the value in
>> <> text field.
>>
>> <$button>
>> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<>
>> tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}} text=###here###/>
>> Copy 
>>
>> I have tried set and macros with no luck so far.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
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Re: [tw5] [TW5]

2018-05-03 Thread TonyM

Thanks xavier,

What you suggest makes sense, I will have a go when at my computer.

I still wonder why we must go to such lengths to simply use a parameter or why 
we must in the first place. It takes time to learn the convoluted way is the 
only way. Surely we could introduce another widget or variable reference so we 
can use the intuitive code patterns?

It feels like I am beating my head against a brick wall, or is making the same 
mistake time and again is a sign of madness.

Thanks
Tony

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Re: [tw5] [TW5]

2018-05-04 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi Tony,

I still wonder why we must go to such lengths to simply use a parameter or
> why we must in the first place. It takes time to learn the convoluted way
> is the only way. Surely we could introduce another widget or variable
> reference so we can use the intuitive code patterns?


Evan Balster has been working on an extension of his "mushroom" operator
that would allow in-place wikification of widget parameters (see
http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Formulas%20as%20Tag%20Attributes).
That would certainly ease the use of widgets. But don't hold your breath:
merging this addition into the core would not be a simple move...

Best,
-- Xavier Cazin

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Re: [tw5] [TW5]

2018-05-04 Thread TonyM

Xavier

I thought it was html arguments, not widgets. Thats good to know.

I am not sure how long it will take but evan seems quite persuasive and is 
contributing to tiddlywiki performance improvements.

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

M,

Use PMario's BUNDLER. 
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/bundler/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwikilabs%2Fbundler

J.

On Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:49:10 UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> As you know the TW vanilla for end user should be customized for example 
> one 
> may needs to have
>
>  - Highlights.js plugin
>  - KaTex plugin
>  - Some CSS tiddlers customize for fonts and colorbox
>  -  Material theme
>  - ...
>
> Is there any way to have a script or a way to bundle all of these into a 
> single JSON file to be imported to customize the new empty-5.x.x.html ?
> I dont want to do this by adding plugins and tiddlers one by one?
>
> -Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread TonyM

Mohammad,

The bundler plugin is a great tool as josiah said, and I use it a lot. However 
in the advanced search filter tab you can name multiple filters and tiddlers 
including plugin tiddlers themself and export them as a single json file.

I now often drop a multiple tiddler json file without plugins (no save and 
reload needed) on tiddlywiki.com to apply all my prefered settings on it.

Regards tony

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread Eric Shulman

On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 6:49:10 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is there any way to have a script or a way to bundle all of these into a 
> single JSON file to be imported to customize the new empty-5.x.x.html ?
> I dont want to do this by adding plugins and tiddlers one by one?
>

You can drag-and-drop an entire TW file to import all the tiddlers it 
contains.  For your purposes, start with an empty.html and drop any of your 
existing TW files on it.  Then, review the list of tiddlers to be imported, 
and de-select any tiddlers that are not desired.  Press the "import" button 
to import the selected tiddlers.  Save the file.  This will be your new 
starting document any time you need a new "custom empty" file.

-e

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

Thank you Eric, Josiah, and Tony!
 
In this way does the setting like sidebar layout is also imported? I mean 
those customized setting you may have?

-Mohammad
 

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

yes.

On Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:18:47 UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thank you Eric, Josiah, and Tony!
>  
> In this way does the setting like sidebar layout is also imported? I mean 
> those customized setting you may have?
>
> -Mohammad
>  
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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

Thank you!

-Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread TonyM

Mohammad,

I tend to drop json files with some configuration not the whole thing. To 
do this you need to identify the tiddlers you want to capture. See this 
tiddler that displays recent temp config and state tiddlers. Or use the 
other custom side bar tabs to identify the changes you want to capture.

https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/#%24%3A%2FPSaT%2FTempTimeline%2FSideBar

If you drop this tiddler on a wiki, lets say tiddlywiki.com you can make 
configuration changes and see what changes, even include those tiddlers in 
your config package. 

Regards
Tony

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:18:47 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thank you Eric, Josiah, and Tony!
>  
> In this way does the setting like sidebar layout is also imported? I mean 
> those customized setting you may have?
>
> -Mohammad
>  
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

Thanks Tony!
I understood some TW settings are stored in some state tiddlers, so I need 
to export them among other plugins and  tiddlers.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 5:24:01 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I tend to drop json files with some configuration not the whole thing. To 
> do this you need to identify the tiddlers you want to capture. See this 
> tiddler that displays recent temp config and state tiddlers. Or use the 
> other custom side bar tabs to identify the changes you want to capture.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/#%24%3A%2FPSaT%2FTempTimeline%2FSideBar
>
> If you drop this tiddler on a wiki, lets say tiddlywiki.com you can make 
> configuration changes and see what changes, even include those tiddlers in 
> your config package. 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:18:47 AM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Eric, Josiah, and Tony!
>>  
>> In this way does the setting like sidebar layout is also imported? I mean 
>> those customized setting you may have?
>>
>> -Mohammad
>>  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread PMario

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:17:59 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony!
> I understood some TW settings are stored in some state tiddlers, so I need 
> to export them among other plugins and  tiddlers.
>

The existing import mechanism doesn't import "$:/state.. " tiddlers. ... 
Which imo is an issue, but was implemented for a reason. 

I'll check if the "bundler-plugin" can include an import-mechanism that 
allows us to import state-tiddlers. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-08-30 Thread TonyM

Mario,

Good idea, However unless bundles is installed I assume they will not be. 
Something to note when you update the bundles plugin

Fortunately visibility, config and temp tiddlers still work I assume.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 4:45:31 PM UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:17:59 AM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tony!
>> I understood some TW settings are stored in some state tiddlers, so I 
>> need to export them among other plugins and  tiddlers.
>>
>
> The existing import mechanism doesn't import "$:/state.. " tiddlers. ... 
> Which imo is an issue, but was implemented for a reason. 
>
> I'll check if the "bundler-plugin" can include an import-mechanism that 
> allows us to import state-tiddlers. 
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization


>
> PMario ..
> I'll check if the "bundler-plugin" can include an import-mechanism that 
> allows us to import state-tiddlers. 


I noticed you can bundle "$:/state..." tiddlers in a JSON but TW won't 
import them. 

Enabling import of them could be good in some situations. For example I 
have a tool that I use a lot to calculate aspect ratios and other 
conversions. Though the state tiddlers change according to user input, on 
"first--time--run" I use them for initial values which I'd like to be able 
to transport rather than have to redo 60.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 1:27:48 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario ..
>> I'll check if the "bundler-plugin" can include an import-mechanism that 
>> allows us to import state-tiddlers. 
>
>
> I noticed you can bundle "$:/state..." tiddlers in a JSON but TW won't 
> import them. 
>

The plugin import mechanism basically uses the core functions. So I didn't 
have to overwrite and especially TEST them ;) 

Importing everything, like _outdated_ plugins, it's possible to create 
bundles, that can completely mess up your TW. 

 - In the best case like $:/state/* tiddlers, they can mess up your UI 
settings. 
 - In the *worst case* ... old and/or broken plugins can totally mess up 
your TW ... That's why they are completely removed from the import tiddler

Once they are removed you still can "re-enable" the checkbox in the UI ... 
BUT ... They won't be imported, because the are already gone. ... For 
plugins, that's a feature. 

The same mechanism is used for $:/state tiddlers. ... So re-enabling them 
doesn't work, with the core-import mechanism. 

> Enabling import of them could be good in some situations. For example I 
> have a tool that I use a lot to calculate aspect ratios and other 
> conversions. Though the state tiddlers change according to user input, on 
> "first--time--run" I use them for initial values which I'd like to be able 
> to transport rather than have to redo 60.
>

Yea ... That's right. .. 

I would like to create bundles, that can be used to open the eg: 
"*$:/ControlPanel: 
Appearence: Toolbars: Editor*" tab. It will make it much easier for me to 
point new users into the right directions ... here in the group.

This mechanism is called app-deep-linking 
, which is not possible 
at the moment, but imo it should be.

 - It would also add the possibility to create "offline interactive 
trainings" for TW. 
 - Or "interactive program reviews" 

Since bundles can track, which tiddlers are imported, it would be easy to 
"uninstall / delete" them after they are not needed anymore!

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

PMario

Thanks for your detailed note on "state" Tiddlers and the pointers to other
possibilities like "interactive training".

I think The Bundler is one of the most useful utilities for TW. It has
eased my life a lot. IMO its the first choice general tool for both moving
Tiddler sets around, portable configuration and general management of a
wiki.

-- Makes transport and archiving of Tiddlers a flexible, clear & clean
process. I found it very robust and easy to use. The way it integrates into
the UI is good too.

-- It is increasingly needed as TW is growing add-ons, plugins, macro
bits, CSS tweaks etc at a fast rate. Just keeping track of good things can
be a major hassle. To gave an example, when I set-up a new TW, depending
on its usage requirements, I drag and drop up to 9 bundles according to
what is needed. If I did that item by item for the components the bundles
now hold if would take hours to locate them all, even if I could remember
them.

-- Management of what you have. I also use the bundler in both list &
filter mode simply to know what I have in the wiki, what needs archiving &
what can be deleted.

There are two issues I mentioned before in some of the early threads on the
bundler which I still hope you might be able to address?

1 -- *Have a way of adding comments in Bundler Lists* such that it does not
throw the count off. I found comments essential to have in complex bundles
so you can see at a glance what they contain. Currently I use a pseudo
Tiddler title like [[--- Comment Here ---]] to do that. But it throws the
count off. If I could have only one request dealt with it would be for this
:-).

2 -- I still wonder if there is a way that a Bundle List could have *a
"destroy mode" *such that, for instance, a list would appear with
checkboxes next to each item allowing deletion when in destroy mode? Even
better a "select all" too? Something like that.

Thanks for a really great tool!

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:54:14 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
Good idea, However unless bundles is installed I assume they will not be. 
> Something to note when you update the bundles plugin
>

I think, with TW we are in a state now, where every extension to "the 
core", needs to "prove its value", by being a plugin first.

Once we ironed out the hickups in the plugin, we can think about creating 
pull requests for the core. ... 

In this "special" case I think the existing mechanism protects the user. So 
imo we need to be careful. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 3:32:35 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:


> -- Makes transport and archiving of Tiddlers a flexible, clear & clean 
> process. I found it very robust and easy to use. The way it integrates into 
> the UI is good too.
>

Thx. 
 

>   -- It is increasingly needed as TW is growing add-ons, plugins, macro 
> bits, CSS tweaks etc at a fast rate. Just keeping track of good things can 
> be a major hassle. To gave an example, when I set-up  a new TW, depending 
> on its usage requirements, I drag and drop up to 9 bundles according to 
> what is needed. If I did that item by item for the components the bundles 
> now hold if would take hours to locate them all, even if I could remember 
> them. 
>

That's a usecase, I didn't see at the beginning. 

For me the first usecase was, to create "proof of concepts" + some docs, 
that a user can easily include ... AND .. delete, after the tiddlers are 
not used anymore. 
 

> There are two issues I mentioned before in some of the early threads on 
> the bundler which I still hope you might be able to address?
>
> 1 -- *Have a way of adding comments in Bundler Lists* such that it does 
> not throw the count off. I found comments essential to have in complex 
> bundles so you can see at a glance what they contain. Currently I use a 
> pseudo Tiddler title like  [[--- Comment Here ---]] to do that. But it 
> throws the count off. If I could have only one request dealt with it would 
> be for this :-).
>

I was thinking about that, some time ago. ... The TW .multids-like 
structure may be an option to store comments. The .multids parser already 
understands them. So we could re-use existing code, without too many 
modifications. .multids files are part of eg: languages 
. ... 

If a line starts with a hash sign: # ... it will be treated as a comment. 

The problem I saw, was, that we already have 2 formats, that do very 
similar things: DataTiddlers : 

 - JSON tiddlers 
 - Dictionary tiddlers  
 
JSON tiddlers don't allow comments, because of the specs. 
Dictionary tiddlers are very similar to .multids, but lack comments and the 
internal API isn't easy to use. ... I didn't want to create a 3rd format. 

IMO a bit more thoughts may be needed. 

2 -- I still wonder if there is a way that a Bundle List could have *a 
> "destroy mode" *such that, for instance, a list would appear with 
> checkboxes next to each item allowing deletion when in destroy mode? Even 
> better a "select all" too? Something like that. 
>

Like an "uninstall-button" :) ... Yea, if you have 9 bundles with several 
tiddlers installed, it can be quite challenge to uninstall them. 

-mario


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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

PMario on the "commenting problem" ...

> IMO a bit more thoughts may be needed. 
>

Right.  Just for sake of completeness two comments ...

--- Some time ago Thomas Elmiger proposed a solution where you have a 
"wrapper Tiddler" around the Bundle List that could also itself be bundled 
as a kind of "Read Me". Examples here (without added details but you could 
add comment you wanted): http://tinyurl.com/yaclbxj2 Discussion here with 
my comments: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/_Uqbg08Pjow/PJ23RiDAAwAJ I think 
it could be good where you want to describe a simple Bundle List--but if 
you have a complex Bundle List and you documented in the "wrapper" its 
components it would be hard to maintain if you changed anything in the 
bundle. I think they would be better in the bundle itself.

--- Just a thought. Could the format stay the same BUT the counting be 
sensitive to non-existent Tiddlers (which = comments)? So math is used to 
reduce the displayed total?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

Email readers: I updated my last post in this thread online in GG to 
clarify what I meant. J.

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 7:19:48 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
> --- Just a thought. Could the format stay the same BUT the counting be 
> sensitive to non-existent Tiddlers (which = comments)?
>

Good thought! 

To test the theory, just open the tiddler:  
$:/plugins/wikilabs/bundler/ui/Bundles and change the 2nd line 

from: 

\define filter-list() [enlist{$(currentTiddler)$}] 

to:   

\define filter-list() [enlist{$(currentTiddler)$}!prefix[--- ]]  

So the *new convention would be*, that the title-prefix for a 
"comment-tiddler" is *3 dashes + a space*: "--- "

Please test, if that would fit your needs. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:05:28 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 7:19:48 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- Just a thought. Could the format stay the same BUT the counting be 
>> sensitive to non-existent Tiddlers (which = comments)?
>>
>
> Good thought! 
>

The funny thing is, that those tiddlers would be included into the bundle, 
if they actually do exist. ... So they are kind of "shadow bundled" :)
They can contain more documentation if needed. 

... I actually like that idea. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-06 Thread TonyM

Josiah, and Mario,

I am using bundles for a lot for things, usually reusable code but 
sometimes for copying or moving tiddlers.

The destroy mode you are looking for is there for whole of bundle deleted 
by clicking on the number next to the bundle in the side bar. In the 
advanced search window you can select delete.

This draws attention that bundles are basically filters or lists of 
tiddlers. As a result there are plenty of solutions that can help use and 
manipulate them. So it would be easy to create a generic tool for deleting 
items in a list and provide the bundle list/filter to it. And this tool 
will be used elsewhere.

On the comment tiddler idea I have a tiddler naming standard that includes 
a tiddler with this information in my bundles including in its fields the 
name of the owner wiki.

If there were one feature in bundles I would like, But I do not know how to 
do it. It would be if I could allow bundles to be imported only if a 
condition were true, such as do not import the bundle to the wiki that 
generated it (unless acknowledged) 

egards
Tony




On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:32:35 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario
>
> Thanks for your detailed note on "state" Tiddlers and the pointers to 
> other possibilities like "interactive training".
>
> I think The Bundler is one of the most useful utilities for TW. It has 
> eased my life a lot. IMO its the first choice general tool for both moving 
> Tiddler sets around, portable configuration and general management of a 
> wiki.
>
> -- Makes transport and archiving of Tiddlers a flexible, clear & clean 
> process. I found it very robust and easy to use. The way it integrates into 
> the UI is good too.
>
>   -- It is increasingly needed as TW is growing add-ons, plugins, macro 
> bits, CSS tweaks etc at a fast rate. Just keeping track of good things can 
> be a major hassle. To gave an example, when I set-up  a new TW, depending 
> on its usage requirements, I drag and drop up to 9 bundles according to 
> what is needed. If I did that item by item for the components the bundles 
> now hold if would take hours to locate them all, even if I could remember 
> them. 
>
>   -- Management of what you have. I also use the bundler in both list & 
> filter mode simply to know what I have in the wiki, what needs archiving & 
> what can be deleted.
>
> There are two issues I mentioned before in some of the early threads on 
> the bundler which I still hope you might be able to address?
>
> 1 -- *Have a way of adding comments in Bundler Lists* such that it does 
> not throw the count off. I found comments essential to have in complex 
> bundles so you can see at a glance what they contain. Currently I use a 
> pseudo Tiddler title like  [[--- Comment Here ---]] to do that. But it 
> throws the count off. If I could have only one request dealt with it would 
> be for this :-).
>
> 2 -- I still wonder if there is a way that a Bundle List could have *a 
> "destroy mode" *such that, for instance, a list would appear with 
> checkboxes next to each item allowing deletion when in destroy mode? Even 
> better a "select all" too? Something like that. 
>
> Thanks for a really great tool!
>
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-07 Thread PMario

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 1:24:49 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:

The destroy mode you are looking for is there for whole of bundle deleted 
> by clicking on the number next to the bundle in the side bar. In the 
> advanced search window you can select delete.
>

That's right, but it's only available for filtered bundles. ... 
 

> If there were one feature in bundles I would like, But I do not know how 
> to do it. It would be if I could allow bundles to be imported only if a 
> condition were true, such as do not import the bundle to the wiki that 
> generated it (unless acknowledged) 
>

That is hard to find out by the plugin. So the user will need to help :) 
... 

It may be possible, to define a "config-tiddler" that contains a filter. 
... 
If the filter returns true all elements of the bundle could be disabled by 
default. ... 
With the option to re-enable them again .

I need to improve the import mechanism, so it's worth to think about that 
too?

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-07 Thread TonyM

Mario,

Yes, improving the import mechanisium would help a few things. I have raised it 
previously but also discovered how the tempoary import tiddler is generated. A 
hook to allow additional logic to be placed inside that tiddler should be 
trivial and plugins like your bundler could add their own additional logic. 
Otherwise overriding the shadow tiddler will work.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao PMario

I'm testing now. Please note I think you meant to "change the \define in 
..." 



*$:/plugins/wikilabs/bundler/ui/BundlesList*
J, x

PMario wrote:
>
> ... open the tiddler:  $:/plugins/wikilabs/bundler/ui/Bundles and change 
> the 2nd line 
>
> from: 
>
> \define filter-list() [enlist{$(currentTiddler)$}] 
>
> to:   
>
> \define filter-list() [enlist{$(currentTiddler)$}!prefix[--- ]]  
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

PMario asks ...
>
> So the *new convention would be*, that the title-prefix for a 
> "comment-tiddler" is *3 dashes + a space*: "--- "
>
> Please test, if that would fit your needs. 
>

Brilliant! Thank you. It works for my use case perfectly. All my numbers 
are now correct.

In addition it is worth noting ...

-- *IF you make a mistake* in how you enter a comment the count X/X won't 
match. So this immediately helped me fix two bundles where the start (a 
typo) was "[--- " rather than "[[--- ", and another where I only had 2 
dashes not 3. So it gives a kind of proxy error-check that is useful.

-- Regarding a release of this. Not sure if possible be being able to 
*configure 
the "comment prefix"* might suit users who don't want my string.

-- The fact that you could actually make a Tiddler starting with the 
comment prefix that would (1) not be counted but (2) would be transported 
is an interesting side effect. I can imagine a scenario where it could have 
utility. For instance a "Read Me First" note that is useful but not part of 
the actual mechanisms you are transporting.

Best wishes
Josiah


 

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-07 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao PMario & TonyM

Regarding DELETION of items in Bundle Lists (not Filtered) ...

Its an interesting issue. And in my specific use case it doesn't look that
easy. An example will show why ...

title: bundle.basetag: $:/tags/Bundle
bundle.base

[[--- PMario's plugin that enables opening tabs as untabbed Tiddlers ---]]
$:/plugins/wikilabs/link-to-tabs

[[--- Felix's flow adjustment ---]]
$:/plugins/felixhayashi/topstoryview

[[--- Base changes in CSS ---]]
$:/css.tweaks.basic

[[--- Hide descriptions in Tools menu ---]]
$:/core/ui/SideBar/Tools

In this use case there are (1) disparate types and names of Tiddlers
(filtering too complex); (2) there are multiple components only one or two
of which I may want to delete, not all of them.

So the problem arises of HOW to delete one or more items AND leave the rest
intact AND update the Bundle to match. Currently I do it all manually.

That is just my typical use-case. Other use cases likely would not have
that complexity and could likely be done more easily.

FWIW to make my manual "pruning" easier when I need to find and delete in
the TW something listed in a bundle I change content Type to
"text/vnd.tiddlywiki" the easier to navigate to them, then delete. Then I
switch the bundle back to "text/plain" and edit out lines of items now
gone. Its cumbersome but okay.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Customization

2018-09-07 Thread TonyM

Gentlemen,

Running with my own idea on this I have modified the import mechanism to 
allow additional code to be added to the import process

Basically with my modified system tiddler $:/core/ui/ImportListing you 
create a tiddler (sample Provided) tagged $:/tags/importcolumn

In such a import column tiddler the following fields are transcluded as 
follows

   - above-listing Shows above the import table - perhaps use to indicate 
   instructions
   - below-listing Shows below the import table - who knows
   - caption is used as a column heading - and can provide tooltip and/or 
   link to the import column tiddler
   - text contains the wiki text to use for each import item - for example 
   show tiddlers with a specific field 
   
In my first test I use it to interrogate the wiki-owner field of incoming 
tiddlers, and I can uncheck those owned by the current wiki. Import this 
bundle, then import it a second time to see it in operation.

For those already familiar with tiddlywiki the are a lot of ways you can 
interrogate or manipulate the list with these hooks, and bundles and 
plugins can include their own additional import support tools. I am yet to 
investigate removing items from the import list automagicaly, but I expect 
it is possible at worst with a button.

Since this is perhaps less than 100-200 bytes it makes sense for this or a 
re-worked version be added to the core  $:/core/ui/ImportListing tiddler 
such that any plugin or user can extend the import function as needed 
without modifying the shadow tiddler.

Please give me your feedback before I submit it to the GitHub Issues, as 
"Extensible import facility"

PS in the above discussion about bundles I would like to add I quickly 
abandoned using the standard bundle, and now only use the filtered bundles 
since it is easy to list tiddlers in the filter anyway.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 1:15:06 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao PMario & TonyM
>
> Regarding DELETION of items in Bundle Lists (not Filtered) ...
>
> Its an interesting issue. And in my specific use case it doesn't look that 
> easy. An example will show why ...
>
> title: bundle.basetag: $:/tags/Bundle
> bundle.base
>
> [[--- PMario's plugin that enables opening tabs as untabbed Tiddlers ---]]
> $:/plugins/wikilabs/link-to-tabs
>
> [[--- Felix's flow adjustment ---]]
> $:/plugins/felixhayashi/topstoryview
>
> [[--- Base changes in CSS ---]]
> $:/css.tweaks.basic
>
> [[--- Hide descriptions in Tools menu ---]]
> $:/core/ui/SideBar/Tools
>
> In this use case there are (1) disparate types and names of Tiddlers 
> (filtering too complex); (2) there are multiple components only one or two 
> of which I may want to delete, not all of them.
>
> So the problem arises of HOW to delete one or more items AND leave the 
> rest intact AND update the Bundle to match. Currently I do it all manually. 
>
> That is just my typical use-case. Other use cases likely would not have 
> that complexity and could likely be done more easily.
>
> FWIW to make my manual "pruning" easier when I need to find and delete in 
> the TW something listed in a bundle I change content Type to 
> "text/vnd.tiddlywiki" the easier to navigate to them, then delete. Then I 
> switch the bundle back to "text/plain" and edit out lines of items now 
> gone. Its cumbersome but okay.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Migrating to TW5

2018-10-05 Thread Alexander Kempshall

Hi All

I've been a long time user of Tiddlywiki possibly for the past 10 to 12 
years.

I've done a few upgrades over time, but none as major as the upgrade to 
TW5. I think I'm currently on 2.6.6 using FireFox 60.2.2esr and they don't 
seem to get on well together.

I thought I might be able to do an automatic upgrade. When I press the 
upgrade button in backstage It tells me that "There was a problem saving 
the backup file" when I try to save expliticly from the option in backstage 
it tells me that 

It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and Opera all work if properly configured)
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed
>


I've presumed this is because my version of FireFox is > 57.

So, I've downloaded and installed empty.html and the plugin 
savetiddlers-master.zip. Changed the Story View from Classic to Zoomin. I 
think I've also set up a side menu.

In the past in the text of a tiddler I would add something like this 

{{{
struct employee
{
   char name[80];
   int age;
   float wage;
} emp;

struct employee *p = &emp;

emp.wage = 123.23;
p->wage = 123.23;
}}}

and would get something like this 

struct employee
> {
>char name[80];
>int age;
>float wage;
> } emp;
>
> struct employee *p = &emp;
>
> emp.wage = 123.23;
> p->wage = 123.23;
>
>

If I try this in TW5 I get the message "Filter error: Missing [ in filter 
expression"

Do I have to forget all the formatting codes from previous versions of 
Tiddlywiki? Or have I lost the plot completely?

Alex







 

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[tw5] [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-29 Thread Chris Lynch



I've been using the plantuml plugins for both TWc and TW5 recently and love 
it. Picture tiddlers are now replacing boring old text in my tiddlywiki ;-]

Still learning plantuml, but I saw it has a include feature, which helps 
break large plantuml code blocks into smaller ones by calling included 
files. I'm assuming include won't work on TW5.

However, it got me thinking that maybe I could transclude some plantuml 
tiddlers to obtain the same sort of result as the include function.

I took a simple plantuml tiddler with:

[[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
@startuml
class Class
@enduml
]]]

and I created a tiddler Class with just:

class Class

and then tried

[[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
@startuml
{{Class}}
@enduml
]]]

but got:

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-23hM7RsmLvs/W16m2YRBxsI/Bg0/OG8xskYHergFtUBRBZcPEucEI3pntvqtgCLcBGAs/s1600/New%2BBitmap%2BImage.png>


which wasn't what I wanted and the error told me I was literally getting 
{{Class}}, not its trancluded value.


After reading tiddlywiki.com for awhile (and with head spinning a bit, I 
must admit) I stumbled upon trying:


<$plantuml
source={{Class}}
/>


which worked and gave me encouragement. Then I tried to get fancier so I 
created a couple more tiddlers, PlantUmlSetup:


skinparam defaultTextAlignment center
skinparam class {
BackgroundColor Azure
ArrowColor Blue
BorderColor Blue
}
skinparam stereotypeCBackgroundColor LightBlue


and AllCode tiddler:


{{PlantUmlSetup}}
{{Class}}


and then tried:


<$plantuml
source={{AllCode}}
/>


which literally gave me:


{{PlantUmlSetup}}
{{Class}}


Deja vu all over again. I'm hopeful a more experienced coder can get me 
going in the correct direction once again.


Thanks for your time and any help!

Chris

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[tw] [TW5] Introducing TW5 Magick

2013-11-21 Thread Stephan Hradek

Today I achieved some progress in my work, using TW5 and some "List Magic". 
But as I'm not sure how much I will be allowed to show from my real work in 
public, I thought I'd invest some time and create some examples for you. 
David inspired me with his TW5 mall <http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm>and so 
I've set up something slightly similar.

I want to enhance it more, by explaining the stuff done in the tiddlers 
there, but you might want to already take a look.

So without any further ado: Here is the TW5 Magick 
TiddlySpot<http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/>
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[tw5] Re: Migrating to TW5

2018-10-06 Thread Mat

Alexander, the core in TW5 is fundamentally different from TW2 so when you 
say;

I thought I might be able to do an automatic upgrade. When I press the 
> upgrade button in backstage
>

...it seems you're trying something from within TW2. This is not possible.

Instead you must go to

https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade

and drop your TW2 file onto that area and follow the instructions 
thereafter.

Do understand that basically all code you may have (plugins etc etc) from 
TW2 will fail to work in TW5.

You may want to consider a softer route all together: Start with an empty 
TW5 and build it from scratch and take theopportunity to "correct the 
flaws" in your original TWs structure. Then, manually import only *content* 
tiddlers on a per-need basis. I found this "route" better for my cases 
because my old TW2s had grown very complex over the years so it was 
impossible to retro fit it into TW5.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Migrating to TW5

2018-10-06 Thread Alexander Kempshall

Hi Mat

You may want to consider a softer route all together: Start with an empty 
> TW5 and build it from scratch and take the opportunity to "correct the 
> flaws" in your original TWs structure. Then, manually import only 
> *content* tiddlers on a per-need basis. I found this "route" better for 
> my cases because my old TW2s had grown very complex over the years so it 
> was impossible to retro fit it into TW5.
>


Thanks for the suggestion. I'd already started with an empty TW5 using it 
as a training platform to work out saving and menus. I've pasted in one of 
my version 2 tiddlers and am digging around to get the formatting right. I 
seem to have found that I can use back ticks instead of curly brackets to 
get some of my formatting correct.




On Saturday, 6 October 2018 08:42:22 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Alexander, the core in TW5 is fundamentally different from TW2 so when you 
> say;
>
> I thought I might be able to do an automatic upgrade. When I press the 
>> upgrade button in backstage
>>
>
> ...it seems you're trying something from within TW2. This is not possible.
>
> Instead you must go to
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade
>
> and drop your TW2 file onto that area and follow the instructions 
> thereafter.
>
> Do understand that basically all code you may have (plugins etc etc) from 
> TW2 will fail to work in TW5.
>
> You may want to consider a softer route all together: Start with an empty 
> TW5 and build it from scratch and take theopportunity to "correct the 
> flaws" in your original TWs structure. Then, manually import only 
> *content* tiddlers on a per-need basis. I found this "route" better for 
> my cases because my old TW2s had grown very complex over the years so it 
> was impossible to retro fit it into TW5.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Migrating to TW5

2018-10-06 Thread TonyM

Alexander,

I have a similer story to you. I have kept my twc in TiddlyDesktop.

Moving to tw5 is a big jump, there are some features to help but I am confident 
once you get past the conceptual differences you will find many plugins are no 
longer needed and alternatives exist.

I suggest building solutions to various requirements like components eg 
projects, todo references and combine them later when you are comfortable. It 
is much easier to exchange content between wikis.

Dont reinvent the wheel, you have a nice new set of them 😀

Dont be shy
Ask for help here 
 

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[tw5] Re: Migrating to TW5

2018-10-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

The 3 curly braces have now become 3 back ticks (```). 

Three curly braces are used to interpret a filter and create a list, and so 
create an error in your situation.

If you do the standard upgrade, then all your tiddlers will be marked as tw 
classic. They may not look right, but they won't break things either. Then 
over time, as you need the tiddlers, you can fix them and bring them up to 
TW5 standards.

-- Mark

On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 11:33:23 PM UTC-7, Alexander Kempshall wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I've been a long time user of Tiddlywiki possibly for the past 10 to 12 
> years.
>
> I've done a few upgrades over time, but none as major as the upgrade to 
> TW5. I think I'm currently on 2.6.6 using FireFox 60.2.2esr and they don't 
> seem to get on well together.
>
> I thought I might be able to do an automatic upgrade. When I press the 
> upgrade button in backstage It tells me that "There was a problem saving 
> the backup file" when I try to save expliticly from the option in backstage 
> it tells me that 
>
> It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
>> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
>> and Opera all work if properly configured)
>> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
>> - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed
>>
>
>
> I've presumed this is because my version of FireFox is > 57.
>
> So, I've downloaded and installed empty.html and the plugin 
> savetiddlers-master.zip. Changed the Story View from Classic to Zoomin. I 
> think I've also set up a side menu.
>
> In the past in the text of a tiddler I would add something like this 
>
> {{{
> struct employee
> {
>char name[80];
>int age;
>float wage;
> } emp;
>
> struct employee *p = &emp;
>
> emp.wage = 123.23;
> p->wage = 123.23;
> }}}
>
> and would get something like this 
>
> struct employee
>> {
>>char name[80];
>>int age;
>>float wage;
>> } emp;
>>
>> struct employee *p = &emp;
>>
>> emp.wage = 123.23;
>> p->wage = 123.23;
>>
>>
>
> If I try this in TW5 I get the message "Filter error: Missing [ in filter 
> expression"
>
> Do I have to forget all the formatting codes from previous versions of 
> Tiddlywiki? Or have I lost the plot completely?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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[tw5] TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-19 Thread Dave

What are some good links for learning the basics of changing the view template 
conditionally, both adding and subtracting elements based on tag or field?

I've found some complicated topics, but not any basic basic stuff.

I thought it would be on the tiddlywiki.com site but couldn't find it there


Thanks, 
- Dave

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Transclude Text

2018-05-04 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This test code:

<$vars newtiddlers="MyNewTiddler">
<$button>
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<> 
tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}} text=###here###/>
Copy 


seems to work fine. Be aware that action-createtiddler doesn't open the 
tiddlers it makes. They appear in the Recent tab. You can use the 
$savetiddler feature if you want the tiddler to be opened as well as 
created.

-- Mark

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:59:18 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have a button to create tiddlers while copying the text field from a 
> source tiddler.
>
>
>- I have the source tiddler name in the variable <>
>- I have the new tiddler name in the variable <>
>
>
> I can not identify how to specify ###here### the value in 
> <> text field.
>
> <$button>
> <$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<> 
> tags={{$:/temp/newtemplatetags}} text=###here###/>
> Copy 
>
> I have tried set and macros with no luck so far.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

2018-05-05 Thread kelsang sherab

confused.com here.
not sure what is the actual purpose of TWRockDock?

If I want to add things to my tW in my browser i can just have my TW in a 
different browser window? or am I missing a trick here?

cheers

On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 9:40:53 PM UTC, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm making this little TW companion that let's you edit tiddlers while 
> browsing on other websites, dragging stuff into your wiki and more
>
> I hope you like it, and find it useful!
>
> http://rocketdock.tiddlyspot.com
>
> (do I need to check trademarks?)
>
> cheers,
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

2018-05-05 Thread Mat

@BTC, nice thing. I created something, rQuickTid 
, 
similar some time ago. Maybe relevant for comparison.

<:-)

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[tw5] [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-12 Thread michaelharrison619

I am trying to set up a list of tiddlers with the "Modified" field 
displayed. While I have managed to get that far, I am hoping it is possible 
to tweak the display slightly.

So instead of displaying something like:

20180512141759481

It would display:

2018-05-12

Or something similar.

I suspect this is actually really simple, but for the life of me I have not 
been able to figure it out.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
0 Links

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[tw5] TW5: automatically import tiddlers?

2018-06-30 Thread Dave

Is there currently a way to import specific tiddlers (e.g. any tiddlers 
tagged "foo") from a named TW file every time you open another file?



Use Case:

I will have hundreds of files, each one used for a different client, and 
seeing as I'll never be finished designing the format of my records I 
anticipate constantly tweaking various macro tiddlers, e.g., and I'd want 
older files to be updated upon opening.

There used to be a plugin that would allow for this behaviour years ago (I 
think it was "include" plugin or something like that)



I need this to work for now in the single file version (as opposed to 
node.js - but eventually I probably want to convert the whole system to 
node (just not ready right now for that))


Thanks, 
Dave

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[tw5] Styling in TW5 5.1.16+

Folks,

I am struggling to make the new css methods work.
https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles

I think I follow the instructions correctly but do not seem to get any 
result.

Has anyone played with this so they can give some practical working 
examples?

Thanks in advance
Tony


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-30 Thread Chris Lynch

I fear this may be a case of tldr; combined with me lacking understanding 
of a pretty basic tiddlywiki concept. I really do appreciate your patience.

I'm trying to replace the output to this call of a plantuml widget
<$plantuml
source="
Class A
Class B
"
/>
by first creating three tiddlers, A:
Class A
B:
Class B
and C:
{{A}}{{B}}
and I then call the widget by using:
<$plantuml
source=
{{C}}
/>
but I get the string "{{A}}{{B}}" rather than what I hoped for "Class A 
Class B".

As I said, I'm sensing this is a rookie error but if someone can point me 
in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.

Once again, thanks for your time and help.

Cheers - Chris

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 11:18:15 PM UTC-7, Chris Lynch wrote:
>
> I've been using the plantuml plugins for both TWc and TW5 recently and 
> love it. Picture tiddlers are now replacing boring old text in my 
> tiddlywiki ;-]
>
> Still learning plantuml, but I saw it has a include feature, which helps 
> break large plantuml code blocks into smaller ones by calling included 
> files. I'm assuming include won't work on TW5.
>
> However, it got me thinking that maybe I could transclude some plantuml 
> tiddlers to obtain the same sort of result as the include function.
>
> I took a simple plantuml tiddler with:
>
> [[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
> @startuml
> class Class
> @enduml
> ]]]
>
> and I created a tiddler Class with just:
>
> class Class
>
> and then tried
>
> [[plantuml class="pretty" output="img" [
> @startuml
> {{Class}}
> @enduml
> ]]]
>
> but got:
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-23hM7RsmLvs/W16m2YRBxsI/Bg0/OG8xskYHergFtUBRBZcPEucEI3pntvqtgCLcBGAs/s1600/New%2BBitmap%2BImage.png>
>
>
> which wasn't what I wanted and the error told me I was literally getting 
> {{Class}}, not its trancluded value.
>
>
> After reading tiddlywiki.com for awhile (and with head spinning a bit, I 
> must admit) I stumbled upon trying:
>
>
> <$plantuml
> source={{Class}}
> />
>
>
> which worked and gave me encouragement. Then I tried to get fancier so I 
> created a couple more tiddlers, PlantUmlSetup:
>
>
> skinparam defaultTextAlignment center
> skinparam class {
> BackgroundColor Azure
> ArrowColor Blue
> BorderColor Blue
> }
> skinparam stereotypeCBackgroundColor LightBlue
>
>
> and AllCode tiddler:
>
>
> {{PlantUmlSetup}}
> {{Class}}
>
>
> and then tried:
>
>
> <$plantuml
> source={{AllCode}}
> />
>
>
> which literally gave me:
>
>
> {{PlantUmlSetup}}
> {{Class}}
>
>
> Deja vu all over again. I'm hopeful a more experienced coder can get me 
> going in the correct direction once again.
>
>
> Thanks for your time and any help!
>
> Chris
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-31 Thread TonyM

Chris,

I will have a look at this later in detail but I recommend you simplify the 
problem when you cant find the answer.

Try your various alternatives first out side of your  <$plantuml widget.
Perhaps use set or wikify to prepare the value you want to place insided 
the widget but see the result first
When calling the widget try using the macrocall widget as it is more robust 
at giving it variables

<$macrocall $name=plantuml text=<> />

Please remind me where to find plantuml

Regards
Tony



On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 4:33:37 PM UTC+10, Chris Lynch wrote:
>
> I fear this may be a case of tldr; combined with me lacking understanding 
> of a pretty basic tiddlywiki concept. I really do appreciate your patience.
>
> I'm trying to replace the output to this call of a plantuml widget
> <$plantuml
> source="
> Class A
> Class B
> "
> />
> by first creating three tiddlers, A:
> Class A
> B:
> Class B
> and C:
> {{A}}{{B}}
> and I then call the widget by using:
> <$plantuml
> source=
> {{C}}
> />
> but I get the string "{{A}}{{B}}" rather than what I hoped for "Class A 
> Class B".
>
> As I said, I'm sensing this is a rookie error but if someone can point me 
> in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Once again, thanks for your time and help.
>
> Cheers - Chris
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-31 Thread Chris Lynch

Hi Tony,

That is great advice and I also think you might have turn on the light bulb.

I had figured out how to generate <> used in your 
hint, but I didn't appreciate I could call the plantuml macro with the 
basic macro call syntax. Makes sense now, but I didn't *really* understand 
that principle or grasp its flexibility.

I'll give it another go tonight. I'm replying now mostly to provide the 
plantuml plugin links. I'm becoming a fan of plantuml, which is surprising 
to me since I am a professional visual programmer 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language>. 
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language]

Tobias Beer's TW5 plugin <https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml>
 [https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml] and anibalch's TWc 
plugin <https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml>. 
[https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml]

Cheers and Thanks!

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:30:55 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I will have a look at this later in detail but I recommend you simplify 
> the problem when you cant find the answer.
>
> Try your various alternatives first out side of your  <$plantuml widget.
> Perhaps use set or wikify to prepare the value you want to place insided 
> the widget but see the result first
> When calling the widget try using the macrocall widget as it is more 
> robust at giving it variables
>
> <$macrocall $name=plantuml text=<> />
>
> Please remind me where to find plantuml
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 4:33:37 PM UTC+10, Chris Lynch wrote:
>>
>> I fear this may be a case of tldr; combined with me lacking understanding 
>> of a pretty basic tiddlywiki concept. I really do appreciate your patience.
>>
>> I'm trying to replace the output to this call of a plantuml widget
>> <$plantuml
>> source="
>> Class A
>> Class B
>> "
>> />
>> by first creating three tiddlers, A:
>> Class A
>> B:
>> Class B
>> and C:
>> {{A}}{{B}}
>> and I then call the widget by using:
>> <$plantuml
>> source=
>> {{C}}
>> />
>> but I get the string "{{A}}{{B}}" rather than what I hoped for "Class A 
>> Class B".
>>
>> As I said, I'm sensing this is a rookie error but if someone can point me 
>> in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Once again, thanks for your time and help.
>>
>> Cheers - Chris
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-31 Thread TonyM

Chris,

I am not sure I am answering your question here, but building up an 
understanding.

I just tried the following with success, however the field version needs a 
way to indicate new lines to work properly

\define plantuml(source)
[[plantuml[
$source$
]]]
\end
\define my-diagram()
:In Macro: -left-> (LEFT) 
:In Macro: -right-> (RIGHT) 
:In Macro: -up-> (UP)
:In Macro: -down-> (DOWN)
\end
<$macrocall $name=plantuml source=<>/>
<$macrocall $name=plantuml source={{!!field-diag}}/>
<$macrocall $name=plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler}}/><$plantuml source=<<
my-diagram>>/>
<$plantuml source={{!!field-diag}}/>
<$plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler}}/>

<$plantuml
width="300px"
tooltip="The Real Hunger Games™?"
source="
title Vegan Nutrition
repeat
while (Hungry?) is (Yes)
  :Eat Healthy;
  note right
No Animal Products
Certainly No Dairy
  end note
endwhile (No)
repeatwhile (Go To Sleep)
"/>

<$plantuml
width="256px"
output="img"
tooltip="The Real Hunger Games™?"
source="
title Vegan Nutrition
repeat
while (Hungry?) is (Yes)
  :Eat Healthy;
  note right
No Animal Products
Certainly No Dairy
  end note
endwhile (No)
repeatwhile (Go To Sleep)
"/>

The last two are great, as if you r-click save image as you can save the 
image as svg or png and import back into the wiki without needing to be 
online.

For your posted problem I split the diagram into two tiddlers with two 
lines each

An the following partially work, with the first line in the first tiddler 
not treated correctly

<$plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler 1}}/>
<$plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler 2}}/>

<$wikify name=one-diag text="{{Diagram Tiddler 1}}{{Diagram Tiddler 2}}">
<$plantuml source=<>/>

<$plantuml source={{Combined}}/>

<$wikify name=one-diag text="{{Combined}}">
<$plantuml source=<>/>

Combined Tiddler
{{Diagram Tiddler 1}}{{Diagram Tiddler 2}}

Diagram Tiddler 1
In tid: -left-> (LEFT)In tid: -right-> (RIGHT)

Diagram Tiddler 2
In tid: -up-> (UP)In tid: -down-> (DOWN)

Now I would love to play with generating images from tioddlywiki info, or 
linking to tiddlers.

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:58:03 AM UTC+10, Chris Lynch wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> That is great advice and I also think you might have turn on the light 
> bulb.
>
> I had figured out how to generate <> used in your 
> hint, but I didn't appreciate I could call the plantuml macro with the 
> basic macro call syntax. Makes sense now, but I didn't *really* understand 
> that principle or grasp its flexibility.
>
> I'll give it another go tonight. I'm replying now mostly to provide the 
> plantuml plugin links. I'm becoming a fan of plantuml, which is surprising 
> to me since I am a professional visual programmer 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language>. [
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language]
>
> Tobias Beer's TW5 plugin 
> <https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml> [
> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml] and anibalch's TWc 
> plugin <https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml>. [
> https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml]
>
> Cheers and Thanks!
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:30:55 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I will have a look at this later in detail but I recommend you simplify 
>> the problem when you cant find the answer.
>>
>> Try your various alternatives first out side of your  <$plantuml widget.
>> Perhaps use set or wikify to prepare the value you want to place insided 
>> the widget but see the result first
>> When calling the widget try using the macrocall widget as it is more 
>> robust at giving it variables
>>
>> <$macrocall $name=plantuml text=<> />
>>
>> Please remind me where to find plantuml
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 4:33:37 PM UTC+10, Chris Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>> I fear this may be a case of tldr; combined with me lacking 
>>> understanding of a pretty basic tiddlywiki concept. I really do appreciate 
>>> your patience.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to replace the output to this call of a plantuml widget
>>> <$plantuml
>>> source="
>>> Class A
>>> Class B
>>> "
>>> />
>>> by first creating three tiddlers, A:
>>> Class A
>>> B:
>>> Class B
>>> and C:
>>> {{A}}{{B}}
>>> and I then call the widget by using:

[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-31 Thread TonyM

Sorry,

<$plantuml source={{Combined}}/>

above, fails

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 10:24:42 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I am not sure I am answering your question here, but building up an 
> understanding.
>
> I just tried the following with success, however the field version needs a 
> way to indicate new lines to work properly
>
> \define plantuml(source)
> [[plantuml[
> $source$
> ]]]
> \end
> \define my-diagram()
> :In Macro: -left-> (LEFT) 
> :In Macro: -right-> (RIGHT) 
> :In Macro: -up-> (UP)
> :In Macro: -down-> (DOWN)
> \end
> <$macrocall $name=plantuml source=<>/>
> <$macrocall $name=plantuml source={{!!field-diag}}/>
> <$macrocall $name=plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler}}/><$plantuml source
> =<>/>
> <$plantuml source={{!!field-diag}}/>
> <$plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler}}/>
>
> <$plantuml
> width="300px"
> tooltip="The Real Hunger Games™?"
> source="
> title Vegan Nutrition
> repeat
> while (Hungry?) is (Yes)
>   :Eat Healthy;
>   note right
> No Animal Products
> Certainly No Dairy
>   end note
> endwhile (No)
> repeatwhile (Go To Sleep)
> "/>
>
> <$plantuml
> width="256px"
> output="img"
> tooltip="The Real Hunger Games™?"
> source="
> title Vegan Nutrition
> repeat
> while (Hungry?) is (Yes)
>   :Eat Healthy;
>   note right
> No Animal Products
> Certainly No Dairy
>   end note
> endwhile (No)
> repeatwhile (Go To Sleep)
> "/>
>
> The last two are great, as if you r-click save image as you can save the 
> image as svg or png and import back into the wiki without needing to be 
> online.
>
> For your posted problem I split the diagram into two tiddlers with two 
> lines each
>
> An the following partially work, with the first line in the first tiddler 
> not treated correctly
>
> <$plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler 1}}/>
> <$plantuml source={{Diagram Tiddler 2}}/>
>
> <$wikify name=one-diag text="{{Diagram Tiddler 1}}{{Diagram Tiddler 2}}">
> <$plantuml source=<>/>
>
> <$plantuml source={{Combined}}/>
>
> <$wikify name=one-diag text="{{Combined}}">
> <$plantuml source=<>/>
>
> Combined Tiddler
> {{Diagram Tiddler 1}}{{Diagram Tiddler 2}}
>
> Diagram Tiddler 1
> In tid: -left-> (LEFT)In tid: -right-> (RIGHT)
>
> Diagram Tiddler 2
> In tid: -up-> (UP)In tid: -down-> (DOWN)
>
> Now I would love to play with generating images from tioddlywiki info, or 
> linking to tiddlers.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:58:03 AM UTC+10, Chris Lynch wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> That is great advice and I also think you might have turn on the light 
>> bulb.
>>
>> I had figured out how to generate <> used in your 
>> hint, but I didn't appreciate I could call the plantuml macro with the 
>> basic macro call syntax. Makes sense now, but I didn't *really* understand 
>> that principle or grasp its flexibility.
>>
>> I'll give it another go tonight. I'm replying now mostly to provide the 
>> plantuml plugin links. I'm becoming a fan of plantuml, which is surprising 
>> to me since I am a professional visual programmer 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language>. [
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language]
>>
>> Tobias Beer's TW5 plugin 
>> <https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml> [
>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml] and anibalch's TWc 
>> plugin <https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml>. [
>> https://github.com/anibalch/tiddlywiki-plantuml]
>>
>> Cheers and Thanks!
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:30:55 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I will have a look at this later in detail but I recommend you simplify 
>>> the problem when you cant find the answer.
>>>
>>> Try your various alternatives first out side of your  <$plantuml widget.
>>> Perhaps use set or wikify to prepare the value you want to place insided 
>>> the widget but see the result first
>>> When calling the widget try using the macrocall widget as it is more 
>>> robust at giving it variables
>>>
>>> <$macrocall $name=plantuml text=<> />
>>>
>>> Please remind me where to find plantuml
>>>
>

[tw5] Re: [TW5] PlantUML include

2018-07-31 Thread Chris Lynch

Thank you for sharing your exploration, I found it very useful. I can now 
get what I was after by using this line from one of your examples in my 
tiddler:
$wikify name=one-diag text="{{Combined}}">
and if I end every tiddler used to create the tiddler Combined, with a hard 
linebreak [as I read about at 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText]
"""
If I understand your reference to linking to tiddlers correctly, Tobias has 
this example that I plan on using in the future.

<$link to="plantuml" tooltip="open docs">
[[plantuml width=64 class=pretty [
Employee -up-|> User
Client -up-|> User
Supervisor -up-|> User
Employee --> (Login)
Supervisor --> (Login)
Client ..> (Login) : NO
Supervisor --> (Create / Delete User): I am god
]]]



Cheers - Chris

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[tw5] [TW5] widdly fork - a minimal self-hosted TW5 server

2018-09-20 Thread cs8425

This fork provide a minimal self-hosted TiddlyWiki5 server written in Go,
original form opennota/widdly <https://github.com/opennota/widdly>, and
bring proof of concept flat-file & sqlite backends support from
xarnze/widdly <https://github.com/xarnze/widdly> with much improvements.

*features:*

- support *bolt/bbolt*, *flat-file* and *sqlite* backends
- *multi-arch/platform pre-compile executable *[1]
- multi-user *login & edit* (currently edit same wiki)
- support *TLS* and *http/2* !!
- modify plugins *without manually update* base TW5 html file, all can
be done in browser.

[1] sqlite backend only linux amd64 version support, if need other platform
please compile your self. (cross-compile needs cgo support)

*Github link: *https://github.com/cs8425/widdly/tree/master
*Download v1.2.1: *https://github.com/cs8425/widdly/releases/tag/v1.2.1

PS. Any bugs/questions welcome to create issue.
PS. PRs are also welcome.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing TW5 Magick

2013-11-21 Thread Joshua

Thanks Stephan. Each new example increases the usability of TW5 in my 
opinion.

Joshua

On Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:13:48 PM UTC-6, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Today I achieved some progress in my work, using TW5 and some "List 
> Magic". But as I'm not sure how much I will be allowed to show from my real 
> work in public, I thought I'd invest some time and create some examples for 
> you. David inspired me with his TW5 
> mall<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giffmex.org%2Ftw5mall.htm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFOSy5GH7K3jA7HY1MCdNhxI53mbg>and
>  so I've set up something slightly similar.
>
> I want to enhance it more, by explaining the stuff done in the tiddlers 
> there, but you might want to already take a look.
>
> So without any further ado: Here is the TW5 Magick 
> TiddlySpot<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftw5magick.tiddlyspot.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFIww2rTAosQaU7090ZoiTr6jFsUw>
> …
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing TW5 Magick

2013-11-22 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi Stephan,

I'am still a newbie as far as lists are concerned (I did only some copy and 
paste work), so examples are very welcome.

Thanks,

Ton

On Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:13:48 PM UTC+1, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Today I achieved some progress in my work, using TW5 and some "List 
> Magic". But as I'm not sure how much I will be allowed to show from my real 
> work in public, I thought I'd invest some time and create some examples for 
> you. David inspired me with his TW5 
> mall<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giffmex.org%2Ftw5mall.htm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFOSy5GH7K3jA7HY1MCdNhxI53mbg>and
>  so I've set up something slightly similar.
>
> I want to enhance it more, by explaining the stuff done in the tiddlers 
> there, but you might want to already take a look.
>
> So without any further ado: Here is the TW5 Magick 
> TiddlySpot<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftw5magick.tiddlyspot.com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFIww2rTAosQaU7090ZoiTr6jFsUw>
> …
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Introducing TW5 Magick

2014-01-11 Thread Stephan Hradek

Just now I did a major update to http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/ 

Hope you like it.

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[tw] [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem

Using CodeMirror. Whenever I type in an equal sign, I get a big red 
message: "TypeError: keyName.indexOf is not a function".

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[tw] [tw5] CycleTags button in TW5?

2014-06-30 Thread Måns

Hi TwWizards

I wonder if it is possible to create a button which will set and unset tags 
from a predefined row of tags. I want to be able to cycle through 4 
"stages": A, B, C and none of these three tags...

Can I do this already? - or do I need a specialized Widget for it?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

2014-10-03 Thread TheDiveO

Is anyone thinking about adding a TW5 syntax highlighting mode to 
codemirror in a similar way codemirror supports a TWC mode?

Regards,
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[tw] [TW5] How I used TW5

2014-12-09 Thread RichShumaker

Since I know people are always discussing 'How do you use TW?' I should 
have posted this here when it went live.

Some Background on my project
I started creating my LegacyCd in the 90's and used BlastWiki(now defunct) 
which uses PHP and MySQL when I released it in 2005.
I wrote a Wiki entry defining the ultimate wiki for my project, a few 
months later I found TiddlyWiki which checked all my ultimate wiki boxes.
I have been using it ever since.

The concept of the LegacyCd was a single CD with a good set of lessons to 
get someone up and running with Contact Juggling.
I wanted people to make whole copies and give them away, share forward.

I was semi-forced by doppelgangers to post all my video content from the 
LegacyCd on YouTube.
So I created the LegacyCd Web version using TiddlyWiki 5 to compliment the 
CD version and allow the same sharing I wanted with the LegacyCd.

This is how I used TiddlyWiki 5
http://www.contactjuggling.com/LegacyCd.html

Thanks again everyone for your help.

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] [TW5] Image Exploration with TW5

2014-12-11 Thread RichShumaker

I made a TW to explore Images a bit more.
Thanks to Tobias for all the help with this so far.
I just started and am looking for more stuff to explore with images.

http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/tw-photo.html

Thanks everyone for your help.

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] [TW5] Nested Sliders in TW5

2015-05-20 Thread Chong

In TW5 I can't nest the reveal buttons inside each other without having 
other tiddlers with more reveal buttons. 
I want be to able to do something like this all in one tiddler:

I went to store. 
<>
   I arrived at 5pm
   <>
">>
Then I bought a tomato
<>

Eric Shulman's NestedSliders plugin for TWC seems to do exactly this - but 
is there any way to do it in TW5?

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[tw] [TW5] New TW5 user questions.

2015-08-21 Thread Joshua Fontany

Hi everyone. Great to find an active community for this awesome tool. I've
recently found TiddlyWiki, and have been learning the TiddlyMap build of
TW5.
I really love this visual concept mapping plugin. I've used a few tools
dedicated to concept maps, but the TiddlyMap implementation has some great
features that aren't possible in the other tools like VUE (via TUFTS
University).

I've also been reading up on WikiFormatting, and how to use the basic
features of TW5 like transclusion, and it has sparked a bunch of ideas.

As an intro, here are the things I'm going to be using TW5/TiddlyMap for:

*RPG Campaign Management Wikis* - An Wiki for storing characters, npcs,
monsters, with references to the Earthdawn 4th Edition rule set. This would
be a dynamic campaign manager, and I'd be using a copy to record the
Party's stats and journey, and a separate Wiki to plan each
Adventure/Encounter location.

- I'd like to come up with a way to store character stats as their own
".Stats" tiddler. Viewing the "" tiddler
would then load those stats through a "character sheet" template via
transclusion.
- I'd like to have a "New Character Tiddler" button that creates a new
Character Tiddler, but does not show the normal editor. Instead, it will
show an editable template based on the "character sheet" tiddler, with
input boxes instead of transcluded stats. Saving this Chracter Editor
tiddler will then spawn the "" tiddler and the
".Stats" tiddler.
- I think the first place to look to implement this is the "Contacts
Directory" example (and a few other tricks) given over
at http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
- Any other ideas/suggestions on how to accomplish this would be very
much appreciated! :)

*Martial Arts Wiki* - A wiki to start organizing and lining concepts in the
martial arts I study: Pencak Silat, Kali Escrima, Aikido, HEMA, etc.

- I've been noting a lot of parallels in my Martial Arts and want to
start making a concept map of these links with the TiddlyMap version of TW5.

*TiddlyWiki5 on Windows 10 Mobile* - Getting TW% running on a Windows
Mobile device.

- I've recently got a Windows Phone, and was looking into getting TW5
running and editable/saveable on my device. No such luck for Windows Phone
8/8.1.. it's viewable, but that's it.
- Then I recently heard about MS' *Project Astoria* - a 'bridge' to
allow Android APKs to run on Windows 10 Mobile. This looks cool.
- Would it be better to try FireFox + the TiddlyWiki plugin for FF, or
to try to use the AndTidWiki app?
- I probably won't have time to try this for a while (& my phone is
still on WP8), so I'd love to hear about anyone else trying TW5 on W10
Mobilve via the Astoria Bridge. :)

Nice to meet you all!

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[tw] [TW5] TiddlersBarPlugin replacement for TW5?

2015-09-13 Thread Bob Flandard

Hello,

I'm trying to migrate from TW2 to TW5. Is there a plugin or way of using 
the tabs macro to get the effect of the TiddlersBarPlugin? (all open 
tiddlers are navigable and closeable through tabs at the top of the page, 
like in most text editors)

I really don't like the default extended river view and the animation as 
you change between open tiddlers - it makes my old eyes wobble.

Thanks, Bob

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[tw5] TW5 Import function (5.1.15+) hta

2018-09-13 Thread Chris

I keep my files in *.hta, and ever since 5.1.15 I have not been able import ( 
both button & drag-n-drop ) without the red screen error ( object assign ).

My two questions . . . 

Is the import function disabled in these versions ( either in general or 
particular to hta )?

If it is just hta any possible workarounds/solutions?

I have not been able to locate a previous question related to this.

Thanks.

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[tw5] TW5 Import function (5.1.15+) hta

2018-09-13 Thread TonyM

Chris,

No answer, but some info.

Given htas link to microsoft have you tried the html version in internet 
explorer? See if your drag and drop still works.

I believe the hta approach to tiddlywiki is somewhat neglected. 

Also, I have renamed html wikis to .aspx and ran them on sharepoint.

I know its not helpfull, but it possibly will allow drag and drop by renaming 
to html

Also have you considered using other access methods to tiddlywiki?

Tony

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[tw5] TW5 Import function (5.1.15+) hta

2018-09-14 Thread Chris

hta is best option where I have been using it. It allows saving without a lot 
of hassle.

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[tw5] TW5: Theme Tweaks by Palette

2018-09-29 Thread Tahoka Freeway

I'm using a couple of TW's with Vanilla palette where I sometimes have to 
present on a TV or projector to a group.

When I do so, the text is too small to be readable to most.  So I manually 
adjust the font sizes in Theme Tweaks and all is good.

Is there a way to switch the font sizes over just like switching between 
palettes so I can quickly change from laptop mode to presentation mode?

Thx.

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[tw5] TW5: Theme Tweaks by Palette

2018-09-29 Thread TonyM

Tahoka,

In control panel, where you set these values. You are updating values thar are 
stored in tiddlers and or fields so you just need to find them and create a 
button (or two) to toggle the values with multiple action widgets to set the 
values. Im on my mobile so cant look these up or build it, but you could look 
around my site at tiddlywiki.psat.com.au to find my tool in the sidebar to 
display recent temp or config tiddlers and when you make a change they should 
appear in the list.

Alternativly you could export all the tiddlers related to each "mode" and tge 
prefered values in a single json file and import them to change modes.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread TonyM

Dave,

The basic stuff

Typically the best way to "change the view Template" is to use the 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate Tag on a tiddler that contains what you would like to 
appear, keeping in mind you can wrap it in a conditional list or reveal. 
You can then use the $:/tags/ViewTemplate tag pill to drag and drop the 
order they appear on the view template. Start simply, the enhance, you will 
pick it up quite quickly.

I think this is the place to look for your current requirement.

Rebuild or modify the whole view template

However some may wonder how to totally change what appears in the 
viewTemplate, create additional templates or ones for inside other tiddlers 
in a panel like TWOutlier or 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Example%20Table%20of%20Contents%3A%20Tabbed%20Internal 
This is much more complex.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 5:23:41 PM UTC+11, Dave wrote:
>
> What are some good links for learning the basics of changing the view 
> template conditionally, both adding and subtracting elements based on tag 
> or field?
>
> I've found some complicated topics, but not any basic basic stuff.
>
> I thought it would be on the tiddlywiki.com site but couldn't find it 
> there
>
>
> Thanks, 
> - Dave
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread Mat

"conditional viewtemplate" - scary term but really easy to do.

Basically just make a tiddler like so:

title: whatever
tag: $:/tags/ViewTemplate
text:
<$list filter="[all[current]your-additional-conditions]">
  whatever should be seen in the tiddlers that fulfill this condition


for example the filter might be

[all[current]tag[foo]]


<:-)

>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread Dave

Thank you both :)

So before I go tinkering (I'm sitting with morning coffee), my initial summary 
is this: you copy the entire existing view template, put it in a tiddler tagged 
with the viewTemplate tag, then you modify it with the conditions as you said, 
and ...

** that new viewTemplate replaces the old one which sits inactive there as a 
shadow tiddler until yours is deleted or untagged? **

Is that correct?

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread Mat



> you copy the entire existing view template, put it in a tiddler tagged 
> with the viewTemplate tag,
>

Hm, just make a completely new tiddler and tag it $:/tags/ViewTemplate. 
That makes it a viewtemplate.

Type "adfs afasdfasdf" into it and save and you'll see that it appears in 
*all* tiddlers. That is an "UNconditional viewtemplate" if you want a 
formal term that I just made up.

Now instead put some "condition" around that text, such as by using a 
listwidget as proposed previously and it will only show when that condition 
is met - just *like the listwidget always does*. That's what I meant with 
that "conditional viewtemplate" sounds like something more scary than it 
is. It really is the tag that makes it a viewtemplate and then you put 
whatever you want inside it.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread Mat


>
> ** that new viewTemplate replaces the old one which sits inactive there as 
> a shadow tiddler until yours is deleted or untagged? **
>
>
>
just like always; if you make a tiddler with the same title as a shadow tid 
then this new tiddler replaces the shadow tid. The title is the identifier 
of a tiddler.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I don't see anything in the existing posts about replacing the viewTemplate.

When you tag a tiddler with $:/tags/ViewTemplate the contents of that 
tiddler get added to every tiddler.

You can click on the $:/tags/ViewTemplate tag and rearrange the items so 
that your new tiddler appears at the top or bottom of the list. Usually you 
don't want to replace the entire body of the default tiddler because that 
would be a lot of work. Usually you just want to add something new like 
{{!!myfield}} to reveal the contents of a particular field. Often you want 
to wrap the contents of your tiddler as Mat explained so that it is only 
used under certain conditions (often based on a tag name, for instance).

I'm surprised that there isn't anything at TiddlyWiki.com explaining this 
use -- it's a very common paradigm.

-- Mark


Thank you both :)
>
> So before I go tinkering (I'm sitting with morning coffee), my initial 
> summary is this: you copy the entire existing view template, put it in a 
> tiddler tagged with the viewTemplate tag, then you modify it with the 
> conditions as you said, and ...
>
> ** that new viewTemplate replaces the old one which sits inactive there as 
> a shadow tiddler until yours is deleted or untagged? **
>
> Is that correct?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread Dave

ok, thanks - 

I see how to add an item and rearrange the tag pills below the 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate in order to add an item. (You're right - nice and 
simple!)


How do you conditionally *delete* and item, e.g. if I want every tiddler 
tagged "notSoBusy" to not show the tags like normal,

do I go into 

$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags

and alter that tiddler by adding the filter conditions there, or is there a 
better way to do that?"

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Yes, that should do it. The easy way would be to make the filter something 
like: 

[all[current]!tag[notSoBusy]tags[]sort[title]]

but that will suppress all tags.

You could instead make it:

[all[current]tags[]] -[[notSoBusy]] +[sort[title]]

which will just hide the notSoBusy tag. Of course, it will hide it from you 
as well as anyone else.  I think I would tend to just use a field and hide 
it (a simple configuration tiddler will allow you to hide/unhide it)

-- Mark

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> do I go into 
>
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
>
> and alter that tiddler by adding the filter conditions there, or is there 
> a better way to do that?"
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Conditional ViewTemplate basics

2018-10-20 Thread Dave

Merci Beaucoup!

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-04-09 Thread Morgaine O'Herne

I've recently discovered TW5, and I'm excited about all the things it can 
do.  I'd like to try the Muuri Alpha, but I can't find the plugin on the 
page.

On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-7, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> *An *alpha state *plugin *is now available on 
> http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
> It's meant for you if you like tinkering and testing
>
> If you get it, if you find a solution for something or some errors, I'd 
> ask you to give a short feedback, that'd be great!
>
>
> p.s. there's an error when dragging links with dragging switched on - 
> switch it off to do that
>
> I'm curious about your feedback,
>
> best wishes,
> Simon
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-04-09 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> I've recently discovered TW5, and I'm excited about all the things it can 
> do.  I'd like to try the Muuri Alpha, but I can't find the plugin on the 
> page.
>
>
> Hi Morgaine , and welcome :)

you can find the plugin on http://tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com
I hope it works for you ... I'm planning to make an update in the future

muritest.tiddlyspot.com is sort of a demo - page 

Simon

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-04-10 Thread Morgaine O'Herne

Great. Got it installed and I'm playing with it. I plan to create a site 
for our role-playing group. Will share when I have something.



On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:42:08 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> I've recently discovered TW5, and I'm excited about all the things it can 
>> do.  I'd like to try the Muuri Alpha, but I can't find the plugin on the 
>> page.
>>
>>
>> Hi Morgaine , and welcome :)
>
> you can find the plugin on http://tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com
> I hope it works for you ... I'm planning to make an update in the future
>
> muritest.tiddlyspot.com is sort of a demo - page 
>
> Simon
>

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[tw5] TW5 adaptation: Simple Note Index

2018-04-21 Thread David Gifford

Hi all

Since a few of you helped me today, I am sharing the results here, a very 
specific adaptation of TiddlyWiki for quickly generating and automatically 
indexing simple notes on books and other sources by topic and subtopic. 
Easier to show it than to explain it. 

http://giffmex.org/tw.adaptations/sni.template.html

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-12 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This should do what you want:

<$view field="modified" format="date" template="-0MM-0DD"/>

HTH
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On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 3:40:20 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I am trying to set up a list of tiddlers with the "Modified" field 
> displayed. While I have managed to get that far, I am hoping it is possible 
> to tweak the display slightly.
>
> So instead of displaying something like:
>
> 20180512141759481
>
> It would display:
>
> 2018-05-12
>
> Or something similar.
>
> I suspect this is actually really simple, but for the life of me I have 
> not been able to figure it out.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
> 0 Links
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-12 Thread michaelharrison619

Perfect! That has done it. Mark, thank you very much.

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>
> This should do what you want:
>
> <$view field="modified" format="date" template="-0MM-0DD"/>
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 3:40:20 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to set up a list of tiddlers with the "Modified" field 
>> displayed. While I have managed to get that far, I am hoping it is possible 
>> to tweak the display slightly.
>>
>> So instead of displaying something like:
>>
>> 20180512141759481
>>
>> It would display:
>>
>> 2018-05-12
>>
>> Or something similar.
>>
>> I suspect this is actually really simple, but for the life of me I have 
>> not been able to figure it out.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> 0 Links
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Modified field display

2018-05-14 Thread TonyM

Marks answer leads you to a highly customisable solution.

A Quick alternative is to transclude the datefield(s) as below

{{!!modified}}

{{!!created}}

As I understand it this behaviour of converting the date field to a full 
date and time string is a "side effect" of other code in the core and it 
will not work on other date fields.

Regards
Tony


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> Perfect! That has done it. Mark, thank you very much.
>>
>> 0 Links
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Migration from TWC to TW5

2018-05-31 Thread Reto

I am using TWC since 10 years and it is heavily customized and contains a 
lot of tiddlers (> 12'000 in total, about 140 with some kind of functions). 
Nevertheless my aim is to migrate to TW5. One problem is to identify parts 
which needs to be rewritten.

I wonder if there is a way how I could make a tiddler evaluate in which 
version of tiddly wiki it runs. Of course this mechanism should work in TWC 
as well as TW5. In this way I could just import my TWC into TW5 and check 
for each of my function tiddler what exactly is needed to make it run in 
TW5.

My question: is there a way how the InlineJavascript syntax 
... of TWC could be made working in TW5? Any other ideas 
how to achive this?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-06-30 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

This thread is very long now. On GG online on web this post is on "Page 5". 
That is five clicks before you get to it. Could you please start a fresh 
thread?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-06-30 Thread Dave

Ok
On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 3:11:57 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> This thread is very long now. On GG online on web this post is on "Page 
> 5". That is five clicks before you get to it. Could you please start a 
> fresh thread?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: automatically import tiddlers?

2018-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I believe that "include" plugin was part of TWC.

I suspect that any automated approach will still require node -- even if 
you don't use the "server", "tiddlers" or other aspects of tiddlywiki on 
node. In my testing, this seemed to work:

 tiddlywiki --load ./Voodo.html --load ./mymacros.html --output . 
--rendertiddler "$:/core/save/all" "Voodo.html" "text/plain"

I can imagine a script file with a similar command followed by a browser 
launch for the "Voodo" file. You could have a batch file like that for each 
client (hundreds of clients? business must be good!)

Of course, you could just drag and drop your macros onto your client TW 
whenever you need to update.

Maybe someone will come along with a better idea.

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
>
> Is there currently a way to import specific tiddlers (e.g. any tiddlers 
> tagged "foo") from a named TW file every time you open another file?
>
>
>
> Use Case:
>
> I will have hundreds of files, each one used for a different client, and 
> seeing as I'll never be finished designing the format of my records I 
> anticipate constantly tweaking various macro tiddlers, e.g., and I'd want 
> older files to be updated upon opening.
>
> There used to be a plugin that would allow for this behaviour years ago (I 
> think it was "include" plugin or something like that)
>
>
>
> I need this to work for now in the single file version (as opposed to 
> node.js - but eventually I probably want to convert the whole system to 
> node (just not ready right now for that))
>
>
> Thanks, 
> Dave
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: automatically import tiddlers?

2018-06-30 Thread Dave

oh, does that just overwrite the already existing one?

(Just checked - yes it does :)

Thank you Mark!  I'll search this out for once I make the transition to node

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[tw5] Re: TW5: automatically import tiddlers?

2018-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Yeah - it overwrites - be sure to have a backup!

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>
> oh, does that just overwrite the already existing one?
>
> (Just checked - yes it does :)
>
> Thank you Mark!  I'll search this out for once I make the transition to 
> node
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: automatically import tiddlers?

2018-06-30 Thread TonyM

Dave,

I have wanted to do this myself for some time, and expect the answer is 
still no, however there is an opportunity to do it if we can get the 
following to refer to an external file

https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-import-tiddlers

<$set name="tv-auto-open-on-import" value="no">
<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-import-tiddlers" $param="???"/>
Import



Because rather than a button we could put this action in a tiddler tagged 
for startup actions https://tiddlywiki.com/#StartupActions

The worst case is you have a button in the first tiddler to click and 
select the import file.

Tony

On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 7:18:24 AM UTC+10, Dave wrote:
>
> Is there currently a way to import specific tiddlers (e.g. any tiddlers 
> tagged "foo") from a named TW file every time you open another file?
>
>
>
> Use Case:
>
> I will have hundreds of files, each one used for a different client, and 
> seeing as I'll never be finished designing the format of my records I 
> anticipate constantly tweaking various macro tiddlers, e.g., and I'd want 
> older files to be updated upon opening.
>
> There used to be a plugin that would allow for this behaviour years ago (I 
> think it was "include" plugin or something like that)
>
>
>
> I need this to work for now in the single file version (as opposed to 
> node.js - but eventually I probably want to convert the whole system to 
> node (just not ready right now for that))
>
>
> Thanks, 
> Dave
>

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[tw5] TW5: just a <> search box

2018-07-08 Thread Dave

This is just for reference - I couldn't find a quick answer on this

In TW classic you could add a search box anywhere (say in a tiddler you'll 
often have open) with "<>"

In TW5 you could do this: {{$:/core/ui/SideBarLists}}, but that gives you 
not only a search box, but the tabs and tiddler lists underneath.


For just the search box only you can copy the code in that shadow tiddler, 
put it in another tiddler, say "justSearch" and remove this near the end:
<$macrocall $name="tabs" 
tabsList="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/SideBar]!has[draft.of]]" 
default={{$:/config/DefaultSidebarTab}} state="$:/state/tab/sidebar" />

And then anywhere you want a search box just put {{justSearch}}, and there 
it is :)

Or, if you want to just copy that blob of code from here, here it is:



<$set name="searchTiddler" value="$:/temp/search">

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/search" type="search" tag="input" 
focus={{$:/config/Search/AutoFocus}} focusPopup=<> class="tc-popup-handle"/>
<$reveal state="$:/temp/search" type="nomatch" text="">
<$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/advancedsearch" 
text={{$:/temp/search}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" text=""/>
<$action-navigate $to="$:/AdvancedSearch"/>
{{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/search" text="" />
{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

<$button popup=<> 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}
<$list 
filter="[{$:/temp/search}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
variable="listItem">
<$set name="resultCount" value="""<$count 
filter="[!is[system]search{$(searchTiddler)$}]"/>""">
{{$:/language/Search/Matches}}




<$reveal state="$:/temp/search" type="match" text="">
<$button to="$:/AdvancedSearch" 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}




<$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown-wrapper" state="$:/temp/search" 
type="nomatch" text="">

<$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown tc-search-drop-down 
tc-popup-handle" state=<> 
type="nomatch" text="" default="">

<$list 
filter="[{$:/temp/search}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
emptyMessage="""
{{$:/language/Search/Search/TooShort}}""" variable="listItem">

{{$:/core/ui/SearchResults}}














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[tw5] TW5: just a <> search box

2018-07-08 Thread TonyM

Thanks for sharing Dave

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Styling in TW5 5.1.16+

Some are now working after a reload.

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 11:32:25 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I am struggling to make the new css methods work.
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles
>
> I think I follow the instructions correctly but do not seem to get any 
> result.
>
> Has anyone played with this so they can give some practical working 
> examples?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Styling in TW5 5.1.16+

2018-07-17 Thread Mohammad

Tony, which part does mot work!
Give a specific example.

*Mohammad*

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 6:02:25 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I am struggling to make the new css methods work.
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles
>
> I think I follow the instructions correctly but do not seem to get any 
> result.
>
> Has anyone played with this so they can give some practical working 
> examples?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Styling in TW5 5.1.16+

Mohammad,

Contrary to my followup reply, I can get nothing to work, I don't 
understand something about its application. hence my desire for an example.

Thanks in advance
Tony

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 12:41:17 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Tony, which part does mot work!
> Give a specific example.
>
> *Mohammad*
>
> On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 6:02:25 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am struggling to make the new css methods work.
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles
>>
>> I think I follow the instructions correctly but do not seem to get any 
>> result.
>>
>> Has anyone played with this so they can give some practical working 
>> examples?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Styling in TW5 5.1.16+

2018-07-17 Thread Mohammad

Tony,
You can find an example below

[data-tags*="slide"] {
  border: 2px solid blue;
}


Put the above code inside a tiddler tagged with 
$:/tags/Stylesheet

Now create tiddlers with what contents you like and tag them with 
slide

Note to the border color! They should be blue.

This way you can apply custom style sheet based on tags


Best
Mohamad




On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:34:42 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Contrary to my followup reply, I can get nothing to work, I don't 
> understand something about its application. hence my desire for an example.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 12:41:17 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Tony, which part does mot work!
>> Give a specific example.
>>
>> *Mohammad*
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 6:02:25 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I am struggling to make the new css methods work.
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20apply%20custom%20styles
>>>
>>> I think I follow the instructions correctly but do not seem to get any 
>>> result.
>>>
>>> Has anyone played with this so they can give some practical working 
>>> examples?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Styling in TW5 5.1.16+