[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BTC

Hai lavorato molto. Ho imparato a guardarti.

In parte, non sei solo tu. Si tratta di vedere cosa stavi cercando di fare.

E imparare da te.

Josiah

On Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:06:32 UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi @Canne,
>
> an update for the muuri StoryView is planned, but I currently don't find 
> the time for updates
>
>
> Hi, great job! I tried Muuri StoryView v0.0.1 and was impressed by is 
>> quality and its potential in book authoring. Do you have plans to share 
>> regarding eventual 0.0.2/0.0.3 versions you mentioned or is this a proof of 
>> concept for something else you are working on?
>> Best regards,
>> Petri
>>
>> On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 8:39:28 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
>>> plugin
>>> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>>> 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

['Canne' via TiddlyWiki]

Thank your very much for the confirmation and for the excellent work!

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

Hi @Canne,

an update for the muuri StoryView is planned, but I currently don't find 
the time for updates


Hi, great job! I tried Muuri StoryView v0.0.1 and was impressed by is 
> quality and its potential in book authoring. Do you have plans to share 
> regarding eventual 0.0.2/0.0.3 versions you mentioned or is this a proof of 
> concept for something else you are working on?
> Best regards,
> Petri
>
> On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 8:39:28 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
>> plugin
>> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>> 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

['Canne' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi, great job! I tried Muuri StoryView v0.0.1 and was impressed by is 
quality and its potential in book authoring. Do you have plans to share 
regarding eventual 0.0.2/0.0.3 versions you mentioned or is this a proof of 
concept for something else to you are working on?
Best regards,
Petri

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 8:39:28 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
> plugin
> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[TonyM]

BTC

Thanks So much, I realised after replying the field basis. It is still a 
little foggy on exact detail but I get the functionality and options.

I wonder if your same story approach could be applied to your design 
idea http://selectiondashboard.tiddlyspot.com/ I say this because this 
would be a beautiful way of both data capture (my reply on github 
), muuri layout 
design and dashboard design.

Love your work
Tony


On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 10:28:04 PM UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Btc
>>
>> As the kanban demo illustrates I love this view in a tiddler approach. 
>> One thing it raises for me is in my gtd wiki I use a field to store the 
>> project, rather than tags, or I would have too many. Would it be feasible 
>> to specify a field rather than a tag for dropping on a story/column?
>>
>> This would provide a nice way to apply field values.
>>
>> If all that it does is move tiddlers between stories, could we have a 
>> button to set a tag or field for every item in a story?
>>
>
> Hi Tony, it already sets fields, not tags. you can give it a storyList 
> attribute (which defaults to $:/StoryList) which is the tiddler title and a 
> storyField attribute which defaults to "list"
>
> If you omit those attributes it sets the $:/StoryList ... which is a 
> caveat but like that I don't have to change $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story 
> and pack it in the plugin ...
>
> The attribute changeStoryList can be set to "no" and it doesn't change any 
> tiddler list or field at all
>
> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Btc
>
> As the kanban demo illustrates I love this view in a tiddler approach. One 
> thing it raises for me is in my gtd wiki I use a field to store the 
> project, rather than tags, or I would have too many. Would it be feasible 
> to specify a field rather than a tag for dropping on a story/column?
>
> This would provide a nice way to apply field values.
>
> If all that it does is move tiddlers between stories, could we have a 
> button to set a tag or field for every item in a story?
>

Hi Tony, it already sets fields, not tags. you can give it a storyList 
attribute (which defaults to $:/StoryList) which is the tiddler title and a 
storyField attribute which defaults to "list"

If you omit those attributes it sets the $:/StoryList ... which is a caveat 
but like that I don't have to change $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story and pack 
it in the plugin ...

The attribute changeStoryList can be set to "no" and it doesn't change any 
tiddler list or field at all

Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[TonyM]

Btc

As the kanban demo illustrates I love this view in a tiddler approach. One 
thing it raises for me is in my gtd wiki I use a field to store the project, 
rather than tags, or I would have too many. Would it be feasible to specify a 
field rather than a tag for dropping on a story/column?

This would provide a nice way to apply field values.

If all that it does is move tiddlers between stories, could we have a button to 
set a tag or field for every item in a story?

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
>  
>
> There is a Wiki called Muuri,
>
> Made to be friendly and furry.
>
>
> It expands to your needs,
>
> As infants it feeds.
>
>
> And deals with bad rhyming. 
>
>

best poem in this thread. period 

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

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There is a Wiki called Muuri,

Made to be friendly and furry.


It expands to your needs,

As infants it feeds.


And deals with bad rhyming. 

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

Got it!

Thank you

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:36:53 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> One more question:
>>
>> Is it possible to have several kanban list? Assume I follow up three 
>> projects each needs a Kanban?
>>
>
> Yes, as long as your device and browser can handle it ... try cloning the 
> kanban demo ... you can change the lists of all clones so that they use 
> different story lists and you have different kanbans using different lists
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Yep!
> That's it! Why not to have it!
>

Hm, I can see that it's useful when the columns are - say - more than 
three. then I could make tiddlers in edit-mode show at a configurable size.
That's a pretty good idea, thank you!
 

>
> Thank you
>
> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:33:23 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> One more suggestion,
>>>  When editing a tiddler, it is good to have a *button *to simple occupy 
>>> the whole story river and then back to its precious state.
>>> Now, I have to click on number of column to cycle to get one column view!
>>>
>>>
>> Do you mean that you want a tiddler that's being edited shown full-size?
>> In that case, create a stylesheet tiddler, put this inside:
>>
>> @media (min-width: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/
>> sidebarbreakpoint}}) {
>> .tc-story-river.tc-muuri-river .tc-tiddler-frame.tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
>> width: calc(100% - (2 * {{$:/config/muuri/tiddler/margin}}));
>> }
>> }
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> This is just a suggestion, and I am not sure if it is straightforward or 
>>> not but the button can have below states
>>>
>>> * maximize: editor occupies the whole story river
>>>
>>
>> like the example above or taking the full screen?
>> I think the latter could be a default when on narrow (mobile) screens, 
>> but I don't think that I'll add any additions for narrow screens to the 
>> plugin. But possibly as demos to the page later on
>>  
>>
>>> * minimize: editor is in folded state (what is is available now in view 
>>> mode)
>>>
>>
>> I don't see why it should be part of the plugin because it would involve 
>> changing the edit template. I don't want to change core tiddlers
>>  
>>
>>> * restore: editor gos to original state (e.g restore the same number of 
>>> columns and it back to its original position)
>>>
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> I can drag tags and it is amazing!
> My question was about the "random distorted cat" image! When drag and drop 
> tags, it seems this image disappears and reappears.
>
>
Do you see this on a mobile device? smartphone?
the random distorted cat is the only image that's embedded in the wiki, the 
others are online images... when dragging tags, the storyview makes a full 
refresh, which causes the image gallery to render again ... I guess that 
the cat image isn't cached by the browser and so it needs more time to load 
again and on less powerful machines you'll see that ... I don't see this on 
my desktop pc ... just an assumption.

I'm about to improve that refresh mechanism, maybe those kind of things are 
going to disappear ...

The current version is a draft / prerelease ... there are still issues. 
Thanks for reporting this one!


> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:24:51 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hello BTC,
>>>  This is absolutely amazing! It can be used for many real cases! The 
>>> kanban is an example you have given.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate if you could improve the documentation and as you 
>>> said in the post, anybody can do this!
>>>
>>
>> Hi Mohammad, as I said, I will add the missing parts to the documentation 
>> when it's settled how the attributes should work, where they need 
>> improvement to be (easily) usable 
>>
>>>
>>> One question:
>>>  I did not understood the purpose of drag and drop of tags! I see the 
>>> cat image moving backward and forward, but I did not 
>>>
>>
>> Which cat image?
>> Aren't you able to drag a tag from a tiddler to another?
>>  
>>
>>> get how it is done!
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

Yep!
That's it! Why not to have it!

Thank you

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:33:23 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> One more suggestion,
>>  When editing a tiddler, it is good to have a *button *to simple occupy 
>> the whole story river and then back to its precious state.
>> Now, I have to click on number of column to cycle to get one column view!
>>
>>
> Do you mean that you want a tiddler that's being edited shown full-size?
> In that case, create a stylesheet tiddler, put this inside:
>
> @media (min-width: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/
> sidebarbreakpoint}}) {
> .tc-story-river.tc-muuri-river .tc-tiddler-frame.tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
> width: calc(100% - (2 * {{$:/config/muuri/tiddler/margin}}));
> }
> }
>
>
>  
>
>> This is just a suggestion, and I am not sure if it is straightforward or 
>> not but the button can have below states
>>
>> * maximize: editor occupies the whole story river
>>
>
> like the example above or taking the full screen?
> I think the latter could be a default when on narrow (mobile) screens, but 
> I don't think that I'll add any additions for narrow screens to the plugin. 
> But possibly as demos to the page later on
>  
>
>> * minimize: editor is in folded state (what is is available now in view 
>> mode)
>>
>
> I don't see why it should be part of the plugin because it would involve 
> changing the edit template. I don't want to change core tiddlers
>  
>
>> * restore: editor gos to original state (e.g restore the same number of 
>> columns and it back to its original position)
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

I can drag tags and it is amazing!
My question was about the "random distorted cat" image! When drag and drop 
tags, it seems this image disappears and reappears.


On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:24:51 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello BTC,
>>  This is absolutely amazing! It can be used for many real cases! The 
>> kanban is an example you have given.
>>
>> I would appreciate if you could improve the documentation and as you said 
>> in the post, anybody can do this!
>>
>
> Hi Mohammad, as I said, I will add the missing parts to the documentation 
> when it's settled how the attributes should work, where they need 
> improvement to be (easily) usable 
>
>>
>> One question:
>>  I did not understood the purpose of drag and drop of tags! I see the cat 
>> image moving backward and forward, but I did not 
>>
>
> Which cat image?
> Aren't you able to drag a tag from a tiddler to another?
>  
>
>> get how it is done!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> One more question:
>
> Is it possible to have several kanban list? Assume I follow up three 
> projects each needs a Kanban?
>

Yes, as long as your device and browser can handle it ... try cloning the 
kanban demo ... you can change the lists of all clones so that they use 
different story lists and you have different kanbans using different lists


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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

One more question:

Is it possible to have several kanban list? Assume I follow up three 
projects each needs a Kanban?

--Mohammad

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 6:42:37 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi @all,
>
> if you're interested in the functionality of connected grids that can 
> interchange items by dragging,
> the page https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view contains some new 
> examples:
>
> * dragging tags from one tiddler to another (hold control to copy / drag 
> with two fingers to copy)
> * a kanban demo
> * two "image gallery" tiddlers that can interchange images
>
> the base functionality is there and I'm seeking for ideas how to make it 
> really accessible / comprehensible so that anybody can create this
> currently, grids can be connected by providing a "connectedGrids" 
> attribute with a css selector and all open grids matching that css selector 
> will be connected so that items can be dragged from one to the other
>
> <$list filter="[list[my-storylist-tiddler!!a-field]]" storyview="muuri" 
> connectedGrids="[my-data-tag]" storyList="my-storylist-tiddler" 
> storyField="a-field"/>
>
> or
>
> <$list filter="[list[my-storylist-tiddler!!a-field]]" storyview="muuri" 
> connectedGrids=".tc-my-connected-grid-class" 
> storyList="my-storylist-tiddler" storyField="a-field"/>
>
>
> the documentation doesn't contain some of those attributes because I'd 
> like to improve them so that they become usable
>
> if you're interested, I'm happy about feedback!
>
> all the best,
> btc
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> One more suggestion,
>  When editing a tiddler, it is good to have a *button *to simple occupy 
> the whole story river and then back to its precious state.
> Now, I have to click on number of column to cycle to get one column view!
>
>
Do you mean that you want a tiddler that's being edited shown full-size?
In that case, create a stylesheet tiddler, put this inside:

@media (min-width: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint
}}) {
.tc-story-river.tc-muuri-river .tc-tiddler-frame.tc-tiddler-edit-frame {
width: calc(100% - (2 * {{$:/config/muuri/tiddler/margin}}));
}
}


 

> This is just a suggestion, and I am not sure if it is straightforward or 
> not but the button can have below states
>
> * maximize: editor occupies the whole story river
>

like the example above or taking the full screen?
I think the latter could be a default when on narrow (mobile) screens, but 
I don't that I'll add any additions for narrow screens to the plugin. But 
possibly as demos to the page later on
 

> * minimize: editor is in folded state (what is is available now in view 
> mode)
>

I don't see why it should be part of the plugin because it would involve 
changing the edit template. I don't want to change core tiddlers
 

> * restore: editor gos to original state (e.g restore the same number of 
> columns and it back to its original position)
>
> Mohammad
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hello BTC,
>  This is absolutely amazing! It can be used for many real cases! The 
> kanban is an example you have given.
>
> I would appreciate if you could improve the documentation and as you said 
> in the post, anybody can do this!
>

Hi Mohammad, as I said, I will add the missing parts to the documentation 
when it's settled how the attributes should work, where they need 
improvement to be (easily) usable 

>
> One question:
>  I did not understood the purpose of drag and drop of tags! I see the cat 
> image moving backward and forward, but I did not 
>

Which cat image?
Aren't you able to drag a tag from a tiddler to another?
 

> get how it is done!
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

One more suggestion,
 When editing a tiddler, it is good to have a *button *to simple occupy the 
whole story river and then back to its precious state.
Now, I have to click on number of column to cycle to get one column view!

This is just a suggestion, and I am not sure if it is straightforward or 
not but the button can have below states

* maximize: editor occupies the whole story river
* minimize: editor is in folded state (what is is available now in view 
mode)
* restore: editor gos to original state (e.g restore the same number of 
columns and it back to its original position)

Mohammad


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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

Hello BTC,
 This is absolutely amazing! It can be used for many real cases! The kanban 
is an example you have given.

I would appreciate if you could improve the documentation and as you said 
in the post, anybody can do this!

One question:
 I did not understood the purpose of drag and drop of tags! I see the cat 
image moving backward and forward, but I did not 
get how it is done!

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

Hi @all,

if you're interested in the functionality of connected grids that can 
interchange items by dragging,
the page https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view contains some new 
examples:

* dragging tags from one tiddler to another (hold control to copy / drag 
with two fingers to copy)
* a kanban demo
* two "image gallery" tiddlers that can interchange images

the base functionality is there and I'm seeking for ideas how to make it 
really accessible / comprehensible so that anybody can create this
currently, grids can be connected by providing a "connectedGrids" attribute 
with a css selector and all open grids matching that css selector will be 
connected so that items can be dragged from one to the other

<$list filter="[list[my-storylist-tiddler!!a-field]]" storyview="muuri" 
connectedGrids="[my-data-tag]" storyList="my-storylist-tiddler" 
storyField="a-field"/>

or

<$list filter="[list[my-storylist-tiddler!!a-field]]" storyview="muuri" 
connectedGrids=".tc-my-connected-grid-class" 
storyList="my-storylist-tiddler" storyField="a-field"/>


the documentation doesn't contain some of those attributes because I'd like 
to improve them so that they become usable

if you're interested, I'm happy about feedback!

all the best,
btc

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> TT: Great potential I see in that.
>>
>
> Pretty cool it is
>

It really is..

j. x 

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

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>
> Ciao BTC
>
> Quick question.
>
> Is the gallery example "Muuri IN Muuri"?
>

Yes it is. A muuri IN/WITHIN another muuri is no problem. When dragging, it 
detects which muuri the drag corresponds to and moves only the items of 
that grid
 

>
> Great potential I see in that.
>

Pretty cool it is 

>
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

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Ciao BTC

Quick question.

Is the gallery example "Muuri IN Muuri"?

Great potential I see in that.

Josiah


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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> BTC
>
> I understand. What mechanisium would you suggest I use?, a tiddler button 
> to alter the viewtemplate of any given tiddler a tag that selects a css 
> style that hides elements?
>

Good question!
I think a button like the export-tiddler button would be useful, that stays 
within the more-tiddler-actions dropdown and opens a popup with a selection 
of options.
Then I think the viewtemplate needs to be modified, possibly just with a 
subfilter where it lists all tiddlers tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate, so that 
the options mentioned above could just modify the subfilter
Maybe another subfilter where the userClass is defined, like userClass={{{ 
[subfilter{$:/config/tiddlers/viewtemplate/classes}] }}}, and the filter in 
$:/config/tiddlers/viewtemplate/classes: 
[all[tiddlers]prefix[$:/persistent/state/style/]suffixget[text]addsuffix[
 
]addsuffix{!!class}] ~[{!!class}] ... or similar, so that buttons can just 
set tiddlers with the prefix $:/persistent/state/style/ and the suffix of 
the corresponding tiddler

just an idea


Thanks
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[TonyM]

BTC

I understand. What mechanisium would you suggest I use?, a tiddler button to 
alter the viewtemplate of any given tiddler a tag that selects a css style that 
hides elements?

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

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>
> BTC
>
> Good work, and moving it to a story view is a great approach, I believe it 
> may extend the use and applicability because it has less impact.
>
> With my big screen at home laying out the tiles looks fantastic, yet my 
> thoughts immediately come to the possibility of being able to toggle at 
> least three view template states
>
>1. The Current full tiddler
>2. Removing the toolbars and subtitle leaving only the title
>3. Removing all "tiddler chrome" including the title to show only the 
>content
>
> In each case still enabling drag and drop, even a tiddler by tiddler 
> toggle between the three states above (Whilst hiding the toggle mechanism 
> unless hover or click?)
>
> Finally for presentations if there could be a highlight on mouse hover it 
> would be easy to show the audience where the focus should be.
>
> I can see using the option 3 above to display a dashboard of dashboards
>
> Only in the spirit of improvement, these suggestions in no way undermine 
> how valuable the tool already is, thanks so much.
>

Hi Tony, thanks for your great feedback

I've found that such things shouldn't be part of the plugin because they 
can be made by anybody, it's just buttons css and wikitext
The problem is that I use things differently from wiki to wiki, that's why 
here I want to have the functionality not doable in wikitext,
later inventions can be addons or demos on the page I believe

There's already something new to discover on the page, probably with some 
issues that I'll try to fix soon ... we can drag from grid to grid, 
updating the corresponding list tiddlers. it's a great feature if 
everything works well

all the best,
Simon


> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 06:39:28 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
>> plugin
>> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>>
>> Besides of older browsers and more unknown ones I hope there's good 
>> browser support - this draft should show over time where the problems are
>>
>> Older versions with similar or the same functionality were named 
>> "TiddlyTouch", "MuuriTouch" etc.
>>
>> Now it's simply called the "Muuri StoryView" since it's just that, a 
>> storyview that can be used with list widgets
>> (MuuriTouch / TiddlyTouch were relying on a muuri widget, which is 
>> complicated and removed)
>>
>>
>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view
>>
>>
>> One of the starting tiddlers contains a list of issues regarding some ui 
>> problems
>>
>> I'll update that tiddler when there are more issues arising
>>
>>
>> Whoever is interested in testing this, please try it in a safe wiki, make 
>> a copy of the original one, use an empty wiki, don't risk loosing your work 
>> through a mistake
>>
>>
>> I really hope it already works as fine crossbrowser as it does on my 
>> linux machine using chrome and firefox
>>
>> I'm especially interested in feedback by Safari users ... does it throw 
>> errors, does it run smoothly etc ...
>>
>>
>> If everything works - Experimenting time! I believe that many nice things 
>> can be created with this
>>
>>
>> all the best with a jodler,
>> btc
>>
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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[TonyM]

BTC

Good work, and moving it to a story view is a great approach, I believe it 
may extend the use and applicability because it has less impact.

With my big screen at home laying out the tiles looks fantastic, yet my 
thoughts immediately come to the possibility of being able to toggle at 
least three view template states

   1. The Current full tiddler
   2. Removing the toolbars and subtitle leaving only the title
   3. Removing all "tiddler chrome" including the title to show only the 
   content

In each case still enabling drag and drop, even a tiddler by tiddler toggle 
between the three states above (Whilst hiding the toggle mechanism unless 
hover or click?)

Finally for presentations if there could be a highlight on mouse hover it 
would be easy to show the audience where the focus should be.

I can see using the option 3 above to display a dashboard of dashboards

Only in the spirit of improvement, these suggestions in no way undermine 
how valuable the tool already is, thanks so much.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 06:39:28 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
> plugin
> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>
> Besides of older browsers and more unknown ones I hope there's good 
> browser support - this draft should show over time where the problems are
>
> Older versions with similar or the same functionality were named 
> "TiddlyTouch", "MuuriTouch" etc.
>
> Now it's simply called the "Muuri StoryView" since it's just that, a 
> storyview that can be used with list widgets
> (MuuriTouch / TiddlyTouch were relying on a muuri widget, which is 
> complicated and removed)
>
>
> https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view
>
>
> One of the starting tiddlers contains a list of issues regarding some ui 
> problems
>
> I'll update that tiddler when there are more issues arising
>
>
> Whoever is interested in testing this, please try it in a safe wiki, make 
> a copy of the original one, use an empty wiki, don't risk loosing your work 
> through a mistake
>
>
> I really hope it already works as fine crossbrowser as it does on my linux 
> machine using chrome and firefox
>
> I'm especially interested in feedback by Safari users ... does it throw 
> errors, does it run smoothly etc ...
>
>
> If everything works - Experimenting time! I believe that many nice things 
> can be created with this
>
>
> all the best with a jodler,
> btc
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> BTC
>>
>> Hi @TiddlyTweeter !
>  
>
>> Excellent. 
>>
>> -- Performance seems better again?
>>
>
>  Yes I hope that it's more performant on all browsers now. It is on mine, 
> I get best performance on Chrome/Chromium, so TiddlyDesktop should work 
> very well, too
>
>>
>> -- Interface is simpler but pretty much just as good practically?
>>
>
> The simpler the better I think. Just what is needed 
>
>>
>> -- Query: How well will it do mobile?
>>
>> We'll have to try. The stylesheet included in the plugin does not contain 
> many styles for narrow screens, which results in tiddlers being positioned 
> full-width, ignoring the columns button
>
> Here users can add their preferred styles, I just wanted to leave it as 
> close as possible to the standard tiddlywiki style for mobile devices, 
> because I have no idea what works best there
>

Just want to add: the DREAM is, that some css wizard (JD, do you hear me?) 
creates a muuri stylesheet for mobile use :o)

... just dreaming ()

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> I love it! Amazing!
>
> Thanks for all your efforts!
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
Hi Mohammad, when you find issues or you get ideas how to do things better, 
please let me know :)

Glad you like it 

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> BTC
>
> Hi @TiddlyTweeter !
 

> Excellent. 
>
> -- Performance seems better again?
>

 Yes I hope that it's more performant on all browsers now. It is on mine, I 
get best performance on Chrome/Chromium, so TiddlyDesktop should work very 
well, too

>
> -- Interface is simpler but pretty much just as good practically?
>

The simpler the better I think. Just what is needed 

>
> -- Query: How well will it do mobile?
>
> We'll have to try. The stylesheet included in the plugin does not contain 
many styles for narrow screens, which results in tiddlers being positioned 
full-width, ignoring the columns button

Here users can add their preferred styles, I just wanted to leave it as 
close as possible to the standard tiddlywiki style for mobile devices, 
because I have no idea what works best there
 

> Its a great tool and I think very close to real use.
>

Great, thanks! 

>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>>
>> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[Mohammad]

I love it! Amazing!

Thanks for all your efforts!

--Mohammad


On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 11:09:28 PM UTC+3:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
> plugin
> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>
> Besides of older browsers and more unknown ones I hope there's good 
> browser support - this draft should show over time where the problems are
>
> Older versions with similar or the same functionality were named 
> "TiddlyTouch", "MuuriTouch" etc.
>
> Now it's simply called the "Muuri StoryView" since it's just that, a 
> storyview that can be used with list widgets
> (MuuriTouch / TiddlyTouch were relying on a muuri widget, which is 
> complicated and removed)
>
>
> https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view
>
>
> One of the starting tiddlers contains a list of issues regarding some ui 
> problems
>
> I'll update that tiddler when there are more issues arising
>
>
> Whoever is interested in testing this, please try it in a safe wiki, make 
> a copy of the original one, use an empty wiki, don't risk loosing your work 
> through a mistake
>
>
> I really hope it already works as fine crossbrowser as it does on my linux 
> machine using chrome and firefox
>
> I'm especially interested in feedback by Safari users ... does it throw 
> errors, does it run smoothly etc ...
>
>
> If everything works - Experimenting time! I believe that many nice things 
> can be created with this
>
>
> all the best with a jodler,
> btc
>

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BTC

Excellent. 

-- Performance seems better again?

-- Interface is simpler but pretty much just as good practically?

-- Query: How well will it do mobile?

Its a great tool and I think very close to real use.

Best wishes
Josiah

BurningTreeC wrote:

>
> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>

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