Re: [tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

2014-02-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I created an issue for Jimmy's original problem:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/449

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.comwrote:

 Automatic saving is in 5.0.8 which will be out in a day or two.

 Jimmy's original issue with wanting to be able to check that the last save
 worked needs fixing. One component I'm interested in is adding a
 nano-status bar to the top of the window that indicates subtly whether
 there are changes that haven't yet been saved (this is information that the
 core is already tracking, but not directly exposing through the UI). I
 think we also need a generic logging capability that is persistent (ie,
 somewhere in control panel there would be a box with a list of log messages
 that you could scroll through).

 Having said that, I'd still recommend being highly defensive against data
 loss. When using TiddlySpot on dodgy connections I tend to keep the wiki
 open in another tab in another browser and manually refresh it to verify
 that my changes have worked.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Joe Shirk j.b.sh...@gmail.com wrote:

 in my case it's TWC 2.8.1 and chrome. but I just tested on FF 27 and the
 toast still doesn't go away. (but i noticed the address#[[page]] url is
 much prettier on FF)

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:41:32 AM UTC-3, Stephan Hradek wrote:

  It could as well just be the TW5 and browser version you're using.
 There was one (5.0.5 or 5.0.6?) where the notification remained in some
 FireFox versions.

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Re: [tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

2014-02-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Automatic saving is in 5.0.8 which will be out in a day or two.

Jimmy's original issue with wanting to be able to check that the last save
worked needs fixing. One component I'm interested in is adding a
nano-status bar to the top of the window that indicates subtly whether
there are changes that haven't yet been saved (this is information that the
core is already tracking, but not directly exposing through the UI). I
think we also need a generic logging capability that is persistent (ie,
somewhere in control panel there would be a box with a list of log messages
that you could scroll through).

Having said that, I'd still recommend being highly defensive against data
loss. When using TiddlySpot on dodgy connections I tend to keep the wiki
open in another tab in another browser and manually refresh it to verify
that my changes have worked.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Joe Shirk j.b.sh...@gmail.com wrote:

 in my case it's TWC 2.8.1 and chrome. but I just tested on FF 27 and the
 toast still doesn't go away. (but i noticed the address#[[page]] url is
 much prettier on FF)

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:41:32 AM UTC-3, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 It could as well just be the TW5 and browser version you're using. There
 was one (5.0.5 or 5.0.6?) where the notification remained in some FireFox
 versions.

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Re: [tw] Re: manually dismiss (wiki saved) notification?

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:21:41 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 ... 

I think we also need a generic logging capability that is persistent (ie, 
 somewhere in control panel there would be a box with a list of log messages 
 that you could scroll through)...


For historical TWC perspective:
  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MessageLogPlugin
Provides options to:
   * log messages to a [[MessageLog]] shadow tiddler
   * fade message display after N seconds (now standard in TW5)
   * hide all messages (when logging is enabled)
   * specify the date format for log entries

By writing the log to a shadow, it creates a session-based log that will 
disappear when you close the document.  To make the log persistent, simply 
edit it.  Once it is a real tiddler, it will be saved with the document 
as normal.  There is also an API to suspend/resume logging, so that plugins 
that generate lots of messages can better control which messages are 
actually logged (e.g, http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#PasteUpPlugin reports 
current position/size of elements as you drag them around that could 
add 100s or even 1000s of messages to the log!)

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
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