Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Hi My experience with several VM's has been unrewarding in terms of drivers. The driver lives on the main OS and may or may not pass through to the VM. You seem to get a sub-set of the main OS devices in the VM... Not a good thing for hardware hacking. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bell Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:08 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card Yeah, it's a bit of a pain - it's basically intended for people running old XP apps that they don't want to (or can't) port to the newer versions of Windows. The other thing to watch out for is that as far as I'm aware all the hardware is emulated with a little hack to allow USB passthough - so the only things you can run the drivers for in the virtual machine are USB devices and not things like PCI cards. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:50 PM, gary wrote: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx > > I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it is a > free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin. Half a gig > of a download! > > Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an old > usb/serial that won't install in 64 bit windows, but I just replaced the > hardware. The VM needs to be allotted RAM. Kind of messy. However, this is a > good experiment, presuming I can uninstall this VM. > > > > > > On 10/11/2011 12:51 AM, Peter Bell wrote: >> >> Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity >> mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows >> XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC >> VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7 >> (which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights >> anyway). >> >> @David Taylor > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Yeah, it's a bit of a pain - it's basically intended for people running old XP apps that they don't want to (or can't) port to the newer versions of Windows. The other thing to watch out for is that as far as I'm aware all the hardware is emulated with a little hack to allow USB passthough - so the only things you can run the drivers for in the virtual machine are USB devices and not things like PCI cards. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:50 PM, gary wrote: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx > > I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it is a > free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin. Half a gig > of a download! > > Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an old > usb/serial that won't install in 64 bit windows, but I just replaced the > hardware. The VM needs to be allotted RAM. Kind of messy. However, this is a > good experiment, presuming I can uninstall this VM. > > > > > > On 10/11/2011 12:51 AM, Peter Bell wrote: >> >> Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity >> mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows >> XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC >> VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7 >> (which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights >> anyway). >> >> @David Taylor > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it is a free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin. Half a gig of a download! Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an old usb/serial that won't install in 64 bit windows, but I just replaced the hardware. The VM needs to be allotted RAM. Kind of messy. However, this is a good experiment, presuming I can uninstall this VM. On 10/11/2011 12:51 AM, Peter Bell wrote: Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7 (which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights anyway). @David Taylor ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7 (which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights anyway). @David Taylor Virtual PC 2007 is XP and Vista, but it doesnt' support "XP Mode" (unless you just create a VM and install XP into it). OT: Did you ever work at a company called "Fieldtech Heathrow"? I may know you... On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:40 PM, gary wrote: > On my win7 pro 64 bit systems, there was nothing to download. It is already > in the OS. > > Use windows explorer, right click on executable, select properties, then > comparability. Options go as far back as win95. > > The feature never really seemed to be essential. The 32 bit emulator always > worked. It was 16 bit software that caused some headaches. For that, I run > dosbox. > > Regarding 32 bit drivers, my recollection is the OS refuses to install them. > > On 10/10/2011 11:51 PM, David J Taylor wrote: >>> >>> BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not >>> available >>> for Win 7 Home Premium. >>> >>> John >> >> Yes, so you could try one of the other virtual machines instead. Virtual >> Box (free), VMware etc. >> >> https://www.virtualbox.org/ >> >> http://www.vmware.com/ >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx >> (not sure what versions on Windows support this) >> >> Cheers, >> David > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
On my win7 pro 64 bit systems, there was nothing to download. It is already in the OS. Use windows explorer, right click on executable, select properties, then comparability. Options go as far back as win95. The feature never really seemed to be essential. The 32 bit emulator always worked. It was 16 bit software that caused some headaches. For that, I run dosbox. Regarding 32 bit drivers, my recollection is the OS refuses to install them. On 10/10/2011 11:51 PM, David J Taylor wrote: BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not available for Win 7 Home Premium. John Yes, so you could try one of the other virtual machines instead. Virtual Box (free), VMware etc. https://www.virtualbox.org/ http://www.vmware.com/ http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx (not sure what versions on Windows support this) Cheers, David ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not available for Win 7 Home Premium. John Yes, so you could try one of the other virtual machines instead. Virtual Box (free), VMware etc. https://www.virtualbox.org/ http://www.vmware.com/ http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx (not sure what versions on Windows support this) Cheers, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not available for Win 7 Home Premium. John -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David J Taylor Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:09 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card [] > 64-bit Windows does require signed drivers, which was not the case with > the > 32-bit OSes. It works fine with both Prologix and NI hardware, but > some of > the lesser-known NI clones may not have 64-bit drivers. [] > -- john Actually, there is a "test mode", where unsigned 64-bit drivers are accepted. I have 64-bit NTP serial drivers working this way. You can also run the XP emulation where, I believe, 32-bit drivers will work (I got a USB WebCam working under XP-mode). Cheers, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
[] 64-bit Windows does require signed drivers, which was not the case with the 32-bit OSes. It works fine with both Prologix and NI hardware, but some of the lesser-known NI clones may not have 64-bit drivers. [] -- john Actually, there is a "test mode", where unsigned 64-bit drivers are accepted. I have 64-bit NTP serial drivers working this way. You can also run the XP emulation where, I believe, 32-bit drivers will work (I got a USB WebCam working under XP-mode). Cheers, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
> The PCI and USB HPib interfaces I've seen are terribly expensive. I'd call the Prologix board expensive rather than terribly expensive. The answer to this discussion may depend upon what you want to do and/or how you want to do it. I'm happy to do some low level hacking. I'm not interested in running propriety code. For me, the Prologix board is a reasonable deal. (I got mine $25 ago, before they put a box around it.) I'll probably get another one of these days. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
> 64 bit Windows 7 is the most restrictive OS I have seen so far in terms of > drivers. 32 bit is a bit more forgiving. I would *guess* that 32 bit Windows > will be a bit of a dinosaur three to five years from now. Just as you are still > running Win 98, that does not mean other versions will be dead and gone. > Only that a pretty cheap PC down at the big box store of your choice likely > will not have a 32 bit OS on it. I think the restrictions in 64 bit Win 7 are the > ones you need to worry about for a "compatible with everything" long term > purchase. 64-bit Windows does require signed drivers, which was not the case with the 32-bit OSes. It works fine with both Prologix and NI hardware, but some of the lesser-known NI clones may not have 64-bit drivers. > That said, The newer NI PCI cards do have drivers. The same is true of the > current production NI cards (all flavors). I'd bet it's true of the current > production Prologix. Strictly speaking, the serial to GPIB boxes don't need > drivers as much as they need software adapted to them. The same is true of > the ethernet to GPIB boxes. That software may be a bear to write, but it's > still easier than writing a driver that Windows will accept as valid. One nice thing about Windows 7 is that you don't have to install any drivers at all for the Prologix hardware. The FTDI chip in the USB adapters is recognized right out of the box, and the Ethernet version doesn't need specific drivers to begin with. > > So at the moment I have both an isa card and NI network box in a mother > > board running Win 98. All of it kind of nuts and messy. Also picked up a > > circa 2002 NI lab. To be honest until now I really did not have a real use > > for it. > > ?? I don't suppose timelab would run on win 98?? Unfortunately, no, it requires at least Windows 2000 (and I don't develop or test under anything earlier than XP.) The newest build at www.miles.io/timelab/readme.htm does have a native 64-bit Windows version, though. :) -- john ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
On 10/10/11 8:10 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi
64 bit Windows 7 is the most restrictive OS I have seen so far in
terms of drivers. 32 bit is a bit more forgiving. I would *guess*
that 32 bit Windows will be a bit of a dinosaur three to five years
from now. Just as you are still running Win 98, that does not mean
other versions will be dead and gone. Only that a pretty cheap PC
down at the big box store of your choice likely will not have a 32
bit OS on it. I think the restrictions in 64 bit Win 7 are the ones
you need to worry about for a "compatible with everything" long term
purchase.
As consumer PCs change from a "computer" to a "media and interaction
device" the lockdown will continue.
That said, The newer NI PCI cards do have drivers. The same is true
of the current production NI cards (all flavors). I'd bet it's true
of the current production Prologix. Strictly speaking, the serial to
GPIB boxes don't need drivers as much as they need software adapted
to them. The same is true of the ethernet to GPIB boxes. That
software may be a bear to write, but it's still easier than writing a
driver that Windows will accept as valid.
MUCH easier, no bear, no raccoon, not even a dog to write.
And as far as the Prologix Ethernet/GPIB widgets go, the protocol is
published, simple, etc. There's python examples out there for all manner
of useful stuff. For the vast majority of GPIB control/read back stuff,
I would expect it to work forever. I wish my 1553 boxes had such a
simple interface.
You just use BSD sockets and go for it.
cmd = "*RST"
sock.send(cmd + "\n")
time.sleep(1.0)
CheckError()
pretty darn simple, eh?
def CheckError():
sock.send("SYST:ERR?\n")
sock.send("++read eoi\n")
s = None
try:
s = sock.recv(100)
except socket.timeout:
s = ""
print s
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[time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
It is certainly possible to do a fairly good GPIB interface with an Atmel processor... no special line drivers needed. I implemented a ProLogix clone on my Mega-Donkey.COM LCD touchscreen board. Even has full HPGL plotter and some PCL printer language support for displaying instrument dumps on the 160x80 LCD screen. --- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Indeed. I use it with only one single gpib slave device attached. Also you may or may not have to fiddle with the parport settings. Either by writing to the superio registers, or by changing settings in the bios. From: Azelio Boriani To: Tijd Dingen ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card Take care that you need the correct line drivers. Before the 82357B, the E5810A I used an Atmel AT89C55 to develop a GPIB-serial adapter but only one GPIB device I was able to drive... On 10/10/11, Tijd Dingen wrote: > > >> Would it be possible to fake an interface with a parallel port and bit >> banging? > > That is certainly possibly, since it is precisely what I use. It's an old > printer cable where I adjusted the wiring to the GPIB connector. For the > rest it's all done with parport bitbanging under linux using /dev/port. I > vaguely recall that I had all the GPIB connectors except for 1, which was no > problem for my needs. > >> Possibly an Arduino? > > Were I to DIY it again now, I would indeed look into using an arduino + > ethernet shield for the task. Or maybe just buy it on ebay if it's cheap > enough. Or maybe a DIY pcb with an ENC424J600 + fpga/microcontroller, so it > all fits nicely into the connector. > > Then again, something like this should be commodity enough not to have to > waste too much DIY time on it. > > regards, > Fred > > Chuck Forsberg wrote: > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Take care that you need the correct line drivers. Before the 82357B, the E5810A I used an Atmel AT89C55 to develop a GPIB-serial adapter but only one GPIB device I was able to drive... On 10/10/11, Tijd Dingen wrote: > > >> Would it be possible to fake an interface with a parallel port and bit >> banging? > > That is certainly possibly, since it is precisely what I use. It's an old > printer cable where I adjusted the wiring to the GPIB connector. For the > rest it's all done with parport bitbanging under linux using /dev/port. I > vaguely recall that I had all the GPIB connectors except for 1, which was no > problem for my needs. > >> Possibly an Arduino? > > Were I to DIY it again now, I would indeed look into using an arduino + > ethernet shield for the task. Or maybe just buy it on ebay if it's cheap > enough. Or maybe a DIY pcb with an ENC424J600 + fpga/microcontroller, so it > all fits nicely into the connector. > > Then again, something like this should be commodity enough not to have to > waste too much DIY time on it. > > regards, > Fred > > Chuck Forsberg wrote: > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
> Would it be possible to fake an interface with a parallel port and bit > banging? That is certainly possibly, since it is precisely what I use. It's an old printer cable where I adjusted the wiring to the GPIB connector. For the rest it's all done with parport bitbanging under linux using /dev/port. I vaguely recall that I had all the GPIB connectors except for 1, which was no problem for my needs. > Possibly an Arduino? Were I to DIY it again now, I would indeed look into using an arduino + ethernet shield for the task. Or maybe just buy it on ebay if it's cheap enough. Or maybe a DIY pcb with an ENC424J600 + fpga/microcontroller, so it all fits nicely into the connector. Then again, something like this should be commodity enough not to have to waste too much DIY time on it. regards, Fred Chuck Forsberg wrote: ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
If those are really clones maybe they are useful. I'm planning to buy a real 82357B in the future and actually I'm following every interface that the eBay saved search flags. One day or the other maybe my turn. Eight months I waited to acquire an E5810A for 380$ instead of 750$. I love the "command line" way and actually I can write various data acquisition routines virtually on-the-fly (kinda live-coding) to get data from (for example) the Fluke PM6681, from the M12M by the serial port, and have the time interval corrected by the negative sawtooth. I used a LeCroy 9362 and a 53132A too to gather time differences in the past. It is very easy with the old Borland C 5 and the static linking library provided free by Agilent to write down simple code to acquire from varius sources (GPIB, serial port and others). On 10/10/11, David C. Partridge wrote: > Talking of 82357B USB-GPIB adapter - does anyone have any experience of the > Chinese clones, for example: <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/180734845086> > > Thanks > Dave > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Azelio Boriani > Sent: 10 October 2011 15:03 > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card > > Yes, I recommend switching to a networked GPIB interface. I have long waited > to acquire a used E5810A and at last I succeeded. Of course it was not so > cheap (380$) but very versatile to use. At work I use an Agilent 82357B, > highly recommended. Frequently pops up on eBay, not cheap but you can find > the IOAgilentSuite (free) library (to write in MicrosoftC/BorlandC your > code) directly on the Agilent website. > > On 10/10/11, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Thank you for all the suggestions on the GPIB interface. >> >> I have decided to go with the Prologix USB/GPIB interface, for all the >> reasons mentioned. >> >> I have 3 types of card busses here, but all the computers have usb. >> Many of the folks here already have Prologix interfaces. >> Later I can sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked >> Gpib interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. >> >> >> Thank you everyone for all the suggestions There is always help to had >> here and I appreciate being able to ask questions >> >> Thank you again, >> >> >> Paul A. Cianciolo >> W1VLF >> http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ >> >> "Time is relative" Abert Einstien circa 1950 "Relatives use up all my >> time" Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Talking of 82357B USB-GPIB adapter - does anyone have any experience of the Chinese clones, for example: <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/180734845086> Thanks Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: 10 October 2011 15:03 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card Yes, I recommend switching to a networked GPIB interface. I have long waited to acquire a used E5810A and at last I succeeded. Of course it was not so cheap (380$) but very versatile to use. At work I use an Agilent 82357B, highly recommended. Frequently pops up on eBay, not cheap but you can find the IOAgilentSuite (free) library (to write in MicrosoftC/BorlandC your code) directly on the Agilent website. On 10/10/11, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: > Folks, > > Thank you for all the suggestions on the GPIB interface. > > I have decided to go with the Prologix USB/GPIB interface, for all the > reasons mentioned. > > I have 3 types of card busses here, but all the computers have usb. > Many of the folks here already have Prologix interfaces. > Later I can sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked > Gpib interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. > > > Thank you everyone for all the suggestions There is always help to had > here and I appreciate being able to ask questions > > Thank you again, > > > Paul A. Cianciolo > W1VLF > http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ > > "Time is relative" Abert Einstien circa 1950 "Relatives use up all my > time" Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 > > > > > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Hi 64 bit Windows 7 is the most restrictive OS I have seen so far in terms of drivers. 32 bit is a bit more forgiving. I would *guess* that 32 bit Windows will be a bit of a dinosaur three to five years from now. Just as you are still running Win 98, that does not mean other versions will be dead and gone. Only that a pretty cheap PC down at the big box store of your choice likely will not have a 32 bit OS on it. I think the restrictions in 64 bit Win 7 are the ones you need to worry about for a "compatible with everything" long term purchase. That said, The newer NI PCI cards do have drivers. The same is true of the current production NI cards (all flavors). I'd bet it's true of the current production Prologix. Strictly speaking, the serial to GPIB boxes don't need drivers as much as they need software adapted to them. The same is true of the ethernet to GPIB boxes. That software may be a bear to write, but it's still easier than writing a driver that Windows will accept as valid. Bob On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:47 AM, paul swed wrote: > Though I think this thread may be wrapping up. > I have run into many of the same issues. > The old isa cards are cheap at hamfests $5 most folks have no clue any > longer as to what they are. > I have never actually seen a pci card at a swap. > > So at the moment I have both an isa card and NI network box in a mother > board running Win 98. All of it kind of nuts and messy. Also picked up a > circa 2002 NI lab. To be honest until now I really did not have a real use > for it. > ?? I don't suppose timelab would run on win 98?? > > Anyhow many of these things have no drivers or support for more modern OS's. > I do fortunately have numbers of rs232 to gpib boxes and actually want to > try that on the 5370 with time lab. > > So as far as getting the prologix I suspect thats a wise approach actually. > If your goal is to simply "Get it done". > Regards > Paul. > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Azelio Boriani > wrote: > >> Yes, I recommend switching to a networked GPIB interface. I have long >> waited to acquire a used E5810A and at last I succeeded. Of course it >> was not so cheap (380$) but very versatile to use. At work I use an >> Agilent 82357B, highly recommended. Frequently pops up on eBay, not >> cheap but you can find the IOAgilentSuite (free) library (to write in >> MicrosoftC/BorlandC your code) directly on the Agilent website. >> >> On 10/10/11, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: >>> Folks, >>> >>> Thank you for all the suggestions on the GPIB interface. >>> >>> I have decided to go with the Prologix USB/GPIB interface, for all the >>> reasons mentioned. >>> >>> I have 3 types of card busses here, but all the computers have usb. >>> Many of the folks here already have Prologix interfaces. >>> Later I can sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked Gpib >>> interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. >>> >>> >>> Thank you everyone for all the suggestions >>> There is always help to had here and I appreciate being able to ask >>> questions >>> >>> Thank you again, >>> >>> >>> Paul A. Cianciolo >>> W1VLF >>> http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ >>> >>> "Time is relative" Abert Einstien circa 1950 >>> "Relatives use up all my time" Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Though I think this thread may be wrapping up. I have run into many of the same issues. The old isa cards are cheap at hamfests $5 most folks have no clue any longer as to what they are. I have never actually seen a pci card at a swap. So at the moment I have both an isa card and NI network box in a mother board running Win 98. All of it kind of nuts and messy. Also picked up a circa 2002 NI lab. To be honest until now I really did not have a real use for it. ?? I don't suppose timelab would run on win 98?? Anyhow many of these things have no drivers or support for more modern OS's. I do fortunately have numbers of rs232 to gpib boxes and actually want to try that on the 5370 with time lab. So as far as getting the prologix I suspect thats a wise approach actually. If your goal is to simply "Get it done". Regards Paul. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > Yes, I recommend switching to a networked GPIB interface. I have long > waited to acquire a used E5810A and at last I succeeded. Of course it > was not so cheap (380$) but very versatile to use. At work I use an > Agilent 82357B, highly recommended. Frequently pops up on eBay, not > cheap but you can find the IOAgilentSuite (free) library (to write in > MicrosoftC/BorlandC your code) directly on the Agilent website. > > On 10/10/11, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Thank you for all the suggestions on the GPIB interface. > > > > I have decided to go with the Prologix USB/GPIB interface, for all the > > reasons mentioned. > > > > I have 3 types of card busses here, but all the computers have usb. > > Many of the folks here already have Prologix interfaces. > > Later I can sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked Gpib > > interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. > > > > > > Thank you everyone for all the suggestions > > There is always help to had here and I appreciate being able to ask > > questions > > > > Thank you again, > > > > > > Paul A. Cianciolo > > W1VLF > > http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ > > > > "Time is relative" Abert Einstien circa 1950 > > "Relatives use up all my time" Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Yes, I recommend switching to a networked GPIB interface. I have long waited to acquire a used E5810A and at last I succeeded. Of course it was not so cheap (380$) but very versatile to use. At work I use an Agilent 82357B, highly recommended. Frequently pops up on eBay, not cheap but you can find the IOAgilentSuite (free) library (to write in MicrosoftC/BorlandC your code) directly on the Agilent website. On 10/10/11, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: > Folks, > > Thank you for all the suggestions on the GPIB interface. > > I have decided to go with the Prologix USB/GPIB interface, for all the > reasons mentioned. > > I have 3 types of card busses here, but all the computers have usb. > Many of the folks here already have Prologix interfaces. > Later I can sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked Gpib > interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. > > > Thank you everyone for all the suggestions > There is always help to had here and I appreciate being able to ask > questions > > Thank you again, > > > Paul A. Cianciolo > W1VLF > http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ > > "Time is relative" Abert Einstien circa 1950 > "Relatives use up all my time" Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 > > > > > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Folks, Thank you for all the suggestions on the GPIB interface. I have decided to go with the Prologix USB/GPIB interface, for all the reasons mentioned. I have 3 types of card busses here, but all the computers have usb. Many of the folks here already have Prologix interfaces. Later I can sell this device or keep it and move up to a networked Gpib interface, for remote access with my wireless laptop. Thank you everyone for all the suggestions There is always help to had here and I appreciate being able to ask questions Thank you again, Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ "Time is relative" Abert Einstien circa 1950 "Relatives use up all my time" Lisa Cianciolo circa 1983 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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NI used to have a trade-in policy. You would get half off the new price. The trade-in page was always kind of hidden. I took a quick look, but don't see it on the website. It wouldn't hurt to ask NI, since they know Prologix sells for half their cost. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 10/9/11 7:11 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: The PCI and USB HPib interfaces I've seen are terribly expensive. Wpuld it be possible to fake an interface with a parallel port and bit banging? Possibly an Arduino? Sure... but surplus NI cards turn up pretty cheap, and the Prologix and equivalent widgets aren't all that expensive. By the time you take an Arduino and put it in a box with a power supply, etc (And buy that darned connector), I'll bet you're pretty close to the $150 cost of a Prologix USB box. And, then you still have to do the programming, which is non-trivial if you want to support the entire protocol (I did part of a IEEE-488 interface with a Z80 some decades ago.. It's 1 Mbyte/sec and you really do need to support all the handshaking properly.) I imagine you could probably do a fairly decent job with a FPGA that has a USB interface. But then, you're still in the $50-100 board range and still needing the connector, power supply, and box. There are, of course, ISA cards around for $20-30, but finding drivers, etc is going to be a chore (of course, that DOS machine with ISA bus you're running it in probably does have the needed 5.25" disk drive for the driver) I guess it depends on whether you want so spend your time building GPIB interfaces or doing whatever you need the GPIB interface for. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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The PCI and USB HPib interfaces I've seen are terribly expensive.
Wpuld it be possible to fake an interface with a parallel port and bit
banging?
Possibly an Arduino?
On 10/09/2011 06:54 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote:
You can troll sci.engineering.design for users of the prologix usb and ethernet
interfaces. However I think the best suggestion was to get the pci to pcmcia
adadpter.
My recollection is cardbus is 32bits and pcmcia is 16bits. My it shouldn't be
an issue unless you try to run DOS. The only reason I mention this is I can't
run some serial cards via my cardbus slot on my notebook due to the lack of a
driver.
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 18:59:40
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Jim,
I am open to all the suggestions.
Just looked at the Prologix site, The usb interface is interesting, also
the Ethernet device looks cool.
I have a wireless network here with about 10 devices on it.
Would I be able to monitor, say the 5370,b with TL running and maybe my
HP3586 Selective level meter from a wireless laptop
Using the proper software?This sounds like an interesting way to go.
I have to read up on the prologix more.
Paul A. Cianciolo
W1VLF
http://www.rescueelectronics.com/
Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind
power.
Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
On 10/9/11 3:36 PM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP.
After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many
different prices.
I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up.
Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was
able to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP
5730B,
I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software,
like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others.
This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB
capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer.
I've been moving to USB and Ethernet. That whole ISA/EISA/PCI bus thing is
such a pain.
Given USB/Ethernet, Prologix has nice GPIB interfaces. NI and Agilent also
have them. brand new, the latter cost more, but perhaps they show up used
at lower prices.
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You can troll sci.engineering.design for users of the prologix usb and ethernet
interfaces. However I think the best suggestion was to get the pci to pcmcia
adadpter.
My recollection is cardbus is 32bits and pcmcia is 16bits. My it shouldn't be
an issue unless you try to run DOS. The only reason I mention this is I can't
run some serial cards via my cardbus slot on my notebook due to the lack of a
driver.
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 18:59:40
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Jim,
I am open to all the suggestions.
Just looked at the Prologix site, The usb interface is interesting, also
the Ethernet device looks cool.
I have a wireless network here with about 10 devices on it.
Would I be able to monitor, say the 5370,b with TL running and maybe my
HP3586 Selective level meter from a wireless laptop
Using the proper software?This sounds like an interesting way to go.
I have to read up on the prologix more.
Paul A. Cianciolo
W1VLF
http://www.rescueelectronics.com/
Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind
power.
Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years
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Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 6:42 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
On 10/9/11 3:36 PM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP.
> After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many
> different prices.
>
> I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up.
>
> Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was
> able to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP
> 5730B,
>
> I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software,
> like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others.
> This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB
> capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer.
>
I've been moving to USB and Ethernet. That whole ISA/EISA/PCI bus thing is
such a pain.
Given USB/Ethernet, Prologix has nice GPIB interfaces. NI and Agilent also
have them. brand new, the latter cost more, but perhaps they show up used
at lower prices.
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> But if they are USB HID (Human I/F Devices) There is no drive association. > I have no HID expertise. On Linux, the udev stuff helps with that. FTDI serial-USB adapters have a serial number. That lets you can associate a name like /dev/gpib with /dev/ttyUSBx where the x is whatever the system assigns when you plug it in. This lets you plug it into any slot. You can also setup the same sort of name when a serial device is plugged into a specific slot. I'll say more if anybody wants. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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>USB can be a pain if you have several, how do you ensure they pop up >with the same identity? Serial port adapters have that issue. Not aware >that there is a general solution to it. For USB at least there is a scan >order to assist, and USB doesn't hurt as the ISA did. >Cheers, >Magnus About Windows - If the USB adapters show as drive letters, Disk Management in Win 2K /XP / Vista (ugh) / Win 7 can assign sticky drive letters to them. (Right click on My Computer, Select Manage, double click on disk management...) But if they are USB HID (Human I/F Devices) There is no drive association. I have no HID expertise. John K1AE ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Paul
The quick and cheap migration to a desktop PC if you have the PCMCIA GPIB
card is to get a PCI to PCMCIA adapter. They are cheap and plentiful for as
little at $6.50. e.g.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-PCMCIA-CARD-ADAPTER-/130584195663?pt=LH_DefaultD
omain_0&hash=item1e676cb24f#ht_500wt_1413 They do work well with the NI
card, having used the combo with the 5370 successfully.
Demian
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Hello,
I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP.
After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many different
prices.
I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up.
Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was able
to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP 5730B,
I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software,
like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others.
This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB
capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer.
Maybe someone is looking for a trade for the PCMCIA GPIB Card and cable?
Thank you for the help
Paul A. Cianciolo
W1VLF
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Jim, I am open to all the suggestions. Just looked at the Prologix site, The usb interface is interesting, also the Ethernet device looks cool. I have a wireless network here with about 10 devices on it. Would I be able to monitor, say the 5370,b with TL running and maybe my HP3586 Selective level meter from a wireless laptop Using the proper software?This sounds like an interesting way to go. I have to read up on the prologix more. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 6:42 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card On 10/9/11 3:36 PM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP. > After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many > different prices. > > I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up. > > Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was > able to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP > 5730B, > > I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software, > like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others. > This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB > capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer. > I've been moving to USB and Ethernet. That whole ISA/EISA/PCI bus thing is such a pain. Given USB/Ethernet, Prologix has nice GPIB interfaces. NI and Agilent also have them. brand new, the latter cost more, but perhaps they show up used at lower prices. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 10/10/11 00:41, Jim Lux wrote: On 10/9/11 3:36 PM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: Hello, I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP. After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many different prices. I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up. Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was able to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP 5730B, I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software, like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others. This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer. I've been moving to USB and Ethernet. That whole ISA/EISA/PCI bus thing is such a pain. Given USB/Ethernet, Prologix has nice GPIB interfaces. NI and Agilent also have them. brand new, the latter cost more, but perhaps they show up used at lower prices. USB can be a pain if you have several, how do you ensure they pop up with the same identity? Serial port adapters have that issue. Not aware that there is a general solution to it. For USB at least there is a scan order to assist, and USB doesn't hurt as the ISA did. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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There was an PCI-GPIB from NI offered on TestEquipTrader on Yahoo a couple of days ago. -John > Hello, > > I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP. > After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many different > prices. > > I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up. > > Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was able > to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP 5730B, > > I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software, > like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others. > This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB > capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer. > > Maybe someone is looking for a trade for the PCMCIA GPIB Card and cable? > > Thank you for the help > > > Paul A. Cianciolo > W1VLF > http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ > Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind > power. > Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years > > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
On 10/9/11 3:36 PM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: Hello, I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP. After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many different prices. I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up. Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was able to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP 5730B, I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software, like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others. This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer. I've been moving to USB and Ethernet. That whole ISA/EISA/PCI bus thing is such a pain. Given USB/Ethernet, Prologix has nice GPIB interfaces. NI and Agilent also have them. brand new, the latter cost more, but perhaps they show up used at lower prices. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Hello, I am looking for a PCI-GPIB card to use in a machine running windows XP. After looking on Ebay there are many different options at many different prices. I am not sure which would be compatible with my set up. Currently I have a ACER Laptop, with a NI PCMCIA GPIB card and I was able to locate the drivers to make it run with the TimeLab, the HP 5730B, I have a Dell dimension 2400 desktop, which runs other Ham radio software, like weak signal DSP, some Seismograph, Dataq data logging and others. This computer has a spare PCI slot and I would like to move the HPIB capabilities into this machine, so I only need to run 1 computer. Maybe someone is looking for a trade for the PCMCIA GPIB Card and cable? Thank you for the help Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
