Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-20 Thread Henk ten Pierick
Hi Said,

Look at Dieder's site.

Groet,

Henk

Op 20 nov. 2012 om 02:36 heeft saidj...@aol.com het volgende geschreven:

> There is one calibration that can only be started by a GPIB command. I ran  
> into that, my unit constantly said something like "xxx calibration 
> required" or  similar during power on. No way to do it with the front panel 
> buttons.
> 
> It is easy to start that cal using Visi, or via sending a GPIB command  if 
> I remember correctly. Unfortunately I lost my Visi CD..
> 
> bye,
> Said
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/19/2012 01:47:55 Pacific Standard Time,  
> h...@deriesp.demon.nl writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Wavecrest DTS 207X has a number of proms and also  battery back-up
> devices. I think it will be wise to check these  first.
> Or are you sure that it is hardware? How old is your  DTS?
> 
> Henk
> 
> 
> 
>> In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is  not distributing service
>> manuals. All repair is  depot.repair.
>> 
>> This makes me considering if I should take the  chance on a second unit,
>> hoping to get one working out of two, or  simply to give up and accept
>> that these boxes are only intended to be  used as door stops of land fill
>> once defective... I've never been  confronted with such a poor customer
>> sevice attitude  before.
>> 
>> Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some  experience with
>> the DTS-series innards who would be willing to share  his knowledge?
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian  schrieb:
>>> Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service  manual?
>>> 
>>> I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however  turned out to be defective.
>>> There was a power supply failure that  I could fix, but there is still
>>> a power-up selftest error message  and calibratin fails.
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread SAIDJACK
There is one calibration that can only be started by a GPIB command. I ran  
into that, my unit constantly said something like "xxx calibration 
required" or  similar during power on. No way to do it with the front panel 
buttons.
 
It is easy to start that cal using Visi, or via sending a GPIB command  if 
I remember correctly. Unfortunately I lost my Visi CD..
 
bye,
Said
 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2012 01:47:55 Pacific Standard Time,  
h...@deriesp.demon.nl writes:

Hi,

The Wavecrest DTS 207X has a number of proms and also  battery back-up
devices. I think it will be wise to check these  first.
Or are you sure that it is hardware? How old is your  DTS?

Henk



> In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is  not distributing service
> manuals. All repair is  depot.repair.
>
> This makes me considering if I should take the  chance on a second unit,
> hoping to get one working out of two, or  simply to give up and accept
> that these boxes are only intended to be  used as door stops of land fill
> once defective... I've never been  confronted with such a poor customer
> sevice attitude  before.
>
> Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some  experience with
> the DTS-series innards who would be willing to share  his knowledge?
>
> Adrian
>
>
> Adrian  schrieb:
>> Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service  manual?
>>
>> I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however  turned out to be defective.
>> There was a power supply failure that  I could fix, but there is still
>> a power-up selftest error message  and calibratin fails.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Adrian,

Take a look at Patent # US 6226231 B1 for a schematic of the
interpolator used in the Wavecrest DTS-2075. It may be similar
to what you are trying to troubleshoot and might give you some
ideas.

Richard


> In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service
> manuals. All repair is depot.repair.
>
> This makes me considering if I should take the chance on a second unit,
> hoping to get one working out of two, or simply to give up and accept
> that these boxes are only intended to be used as door stops of land fill
> once defective... I've never been confronted with such a poor customer
> sevice attitude before.
>
> Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some experience with
> the DTS-series innards who would be willing to share his knowledge?
>
> Adrian
>
>
> Adrian schrieb:
>> Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service manual?
>>
>> I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however turned out to be defective.
>> There was a power supply failure that I could fix, but there is still
>> a power-up selftest error message and calibratin fails.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread Adrian

Hi Henk,

as by the component date codes, my unit is probably from 1998. Some - 
possibly replacement - boards have date codes up to late 2000.


Upon power up this error message is displayed:
'Path Checksum Error - Perform External Calibration'

DC Cal. finishes, but the next step with cal outputs connected to inputs 
fails immediately.

The measurement display says: MEAS: no pulses found

When I try internal cal., I'm getting 'Cal init failed - No IQM Intr' 
displayed.


Apparently the DC calibration happens on the large input board, while 
the other cal steps are addressing the IQM ('Test Interval Quantizer 
Board').
It seems like the failure is IQM board related. When I run calibration 
with the IQM board pulled, my unit still behaves the same way.


Adrian


Henk schrieb:

Hi,

The Wavecrest DTS 207X has a number of proms and also battery back-up
devices. I think it will be wise to check these first.
Or are you sure that it is hardware? How old is your DTS?

Henk




In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service
manuals. All repair is depot.repair.

This makes me considering if I should take the chance on a second unit,
hoping to get one working out of two, or simply to give up and accept
that these boxes are only intended to be used as door stops of land fill
once defective... I've never been confronted with such a poor customer
sevice attitude before.

Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some experience with
the DTS-series innards who would be willing to share his knowledge?

Adrian


Adrian schrieb:

Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service manual?

I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however turned out to be defective.
There was a power supply failure that I could fix, but there is still
a power-up selftest error message and calibratin fails.

Adrian

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Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-19 Thread Henk
Hi,

The Wavecrest DTS 207X has a number of proms and also battery back-up
devices. I think it will be wise to check these first.
Or are you sure that it is hardware? How old is your DTS?

Henk



> In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service
> manuals. All repair is depot.repair.
>
> This makes me considering if I should take the chance on a second unit,
> hoping to get one working out of two, or simply to give up and accept
> that these boxes are only intended to be used as door stops of land fill
> once defective... I've never been confronted with such a poor customer
> sevice attitude before.
>
> Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some experience with
> the DTS-series innards who would be willing to share his knowledge?
>
> Adrian
>
>
> Adrian schrieb:
>> Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service manual?
>>
>> I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however turned out to be defective.
>> There was a power supply failure that I could fix, but there is still
>> a power-up selftest error message and calibratin fails.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-18 Thread Pete Lancashire
>I've never been confronted with such a poor customer sevice
> attitude before.

Have you bought an instrument as complex as at DTS 207x recently ?

>From the mid 90's this has become the norm even with companies that were
bastions of the quality of their service manuals such as  Tek and Agilent (HP)

The first move was to charge for the service manual, then component level
service documentation CLIPs became available at a high price, then what
you have today even internal customers can not get CLIPS.

-pete


On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Adrian  wrote:
> In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service manuals.
> All repair is depot.repair.
>
> This makes me considering if I should take the chance on a second unit,
> hoping to get one working out of two, or simply to give up and accept that
> these boxes are only intended to be used as door stops of land fill once
> defective... I've never been confronted with such a poor customer sevice
> attitude before.
>
> Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some experience with the
> DTS-series innards who would be willing to share his knowledge?
>
> Adrian
>
>
> Adrian schrieb:
>
>> Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service manual?
>>
>> I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however turned out to be defective.
>> There was a power supply failure that I could fix, but there is still a
>> power-up selftest error message and calibratin fails.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Wavecrest DTS 2077 Service Manual?

2012-11-18 Thread Adrian
In the meantime I heard that Wavecrest is not distributing service 
manuals. All repair is depot.repair.


This makes me considering if I should take the chance on a second unit, 
hoping to get one working out of two, or simply to give up and accept 
that these boxes are only intended to be used as door stops of land fill 
once defective... I've never been confronted with such a poor customer 
sevice attitude before.


Nevertheless... is there anyone who has acquired some experience with 
the DTS-series innards who would be willing to share his knowledge?


Adrian


Adrian schrieb:

Anyone have a Wavecrest DTS 2075/77/79 service manual?

I've recently got a DTS 2077 that however turned out to be defective.
There was a power supply failure that I could fix, but there is still 
a power-up selftest error message and calibratin fails.


Adrian

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