Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

2009-10-23 Thread John Kulig

I still do Fechner. I used to briefly do the DL and JND concepts when I taught 
intro (I believe Gleitman's text still covers him). When I taught History of 
Psych I did more, starting with Herbart and Leibnitz' concepts on petite 
perceptions, a few staged DL demos, then Weber  Fechner. I used to have an 
essay question on whether he or Wundt founded psychology. He's hard to avoid in 
measurement classes (though the books ignore him). I tie him to the challenge 
of scaling brightness or loudness, and then discuss the challenge of scaling 
more ambitious things such as beauty or happiness.

Fenchner's metaphysical ramblings as Dr. Mises and the 'day' and 'night' views 
are also worth doing, as I (after Boring) paint a picture of the Germans as 
struggling with the relationship between the objective/physical versus the 
subjective/psychological, hence the only country where psychology could have 
started. So you can still get a tremendous amount of mileage out of Fechner in 
undergraduate classes. 

btw right before Fechner I show my favorite Calvin  Hobbs cartoon, doing 
pushups and counting (something like) 20 514 and then saying (something 
like) exercise is more gratifying when you count like it feels like

--
John W. Kulig
Professor of Psychology
Plymouth State University
Plymouth NH 03264
--

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From: Karl L Wuensch wuens...@ecu.edu
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:25:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

I am probably the only faculty member at my institution who even 
mentions Fechner in the Intro class.  When I refer to Fechner with my graduate 
students they give me that WTF are you talking about look.  When I ask who 
has ever heard of Fechner, not a single hand is raised.  So sad.  A few will 
say they remember hearing of Weber, but none can comment on his contributions 
to the discipline.

Cheers,
 
Karl W.

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From: Gerald Peterson [mailto:peter...@vmail.svsu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:20 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date


Is psychophysics being taught at the undergrad level?  I was introduced to 
Fechner in an undergrad Exper. Psych class and then in the capstone History and 
Systems class, but I don't see references to psychophysical methods in most 
Experimental psych texts.  I would think it would be covered in our SP class.  
I do mention Fechner and Weber in Intro tho. Gary




Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. 
Professor, Department of Psychology 
Saginaw Valley State University 
University Center, MI 48710 
989-964-4491 
peter...@svsu.edu 

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From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:44:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

A long time ago an old friend introduced me to the tradition of serving cake in 
class on Fechner day. I recommend it. Some places can even put a photo in the 
icing. Fechner's mug makes everyone take a small piece so one cake can stretch 
through a large class.

Bill Scott


 Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 10/22/09 5:28 PM 
The Zend-Avesta was a religious text (after a manner of speaking) by 
Fechner, in which he outlined his daylight view of science (a kind of 
pan-psychist, post-Romantic view of the world), as opposed to he called 
the twilight view (of materialism). (The Avesta is a sacred text of 
Zoroastrians, who (to a first approximation) worship the sun.) He also 
wrote abook about the soul life of plants.

Neither has ever been translated to my knowledge, but Michael 
Heidelberger's biography of Fechner is an excellent source (if a bit 
dense).

Chris
-- 

Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

 

416-736-2100 ex. 66164
chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/

==



Ken Steele wrote:


 I have been wondering about the report of that dream, because it is 
 repeated so often--but without attribution.  I looked at the 1966 
 English translation of Elements of Psychophysics (Vol I) and   no 
 mention of the date or a dream occurs in the text.  (The translation 
 of the volume was NIH-funded to celebrate the centennial of the 
 publication of E of P. I guess we will need to wait until 2066 to see 
 the translation of Vol. II).

 E G Boring does the introduction to the translation and repeats the 
 dream story--without attribution of course.  Even more irritating is 
 an article by Boring (1961), in which the date/dream story is 
 higlighted several times, still without attribution.

 However, Boring (1929/1950) does provide an interesting bit of info in 
 his Experimental 

Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

2009-10-23 Thread Christopher D. Green
A great psychophysics demonstration you can do in class uses money and 
hapiness (rather than calibrated lights or sounds). First, ask students 
to imagine that they have been given $100. Ask them to get a sense of 
how happy that would make them. Then ask them to imagine that they have 
been given $200. Ask them is the happiness of getting $200 is TWICE 
that  of getting $100, or if it seems somewhat less than twice as happy. 
Most will answer the latter. Voila! The non-linear relationship between 
physical and psychological intensity.


Chris
-- 

Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

 

416-736-2100 ex. 66164
chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/

==


John Kulig wrote:
 I still do Fechner. I used to briefly do the DL and JND concepts when I 
 taught intro (I believe Gleitman's text still covers him). When I taught 
 History of Psych I did more, starting with Herbart and Leibnitz' concepts on 
 petite perceptions, a few staged DL demos, then Weber  Fechner. I used to 
 have an essay question on whether he or Wundt founded psychology. He's hard 
 to avoid in measurement classes (though the books ignore him). I tie him to 
 the challenge of scaling brightness or loudness, and then discuss the 
 challenge of scaling more ambitious things such as beauty or happiness.

 Fenchner's metaphysical ramblings as Dr. Mises and the 'day' and 'night' 
 views are also worth doing, as I (after Boring) paint a picture of the 
 Germans as struggling with the relationship between the objective/physical 
 versus the subjective/psychological, hence the only country where psychology 
 could have started. So you can still get a tremendous amount of mileage out 
 of Fechner in undergraduate classes. 

 btw right before Fechner I show my favorite Calvin  Hobbs cartoon, doing 
 pushups and counting (something like) 20 514 and then saying (something 
 like) exercise is more gratifying when you count like it feels like

 --
 John W. Kulig
 Professor of Psychology
 Plymouth State University
 Plymouth NH 03264
 --

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 From: Karl L Wuensch wuens...@ecu.edu
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
 Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:25:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: RE: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

   I am probably the only faculty member at my institution who even 
 mentions Fechner in the Intro class.  When I refer to Fechner with my 
 graduate students they give me that WTF are you talking about look.  When I 
 ask who has ever heard of Fechner, not a single hand is raised.  So sad.  A 
 few will say they remember hearing of Weber, but none can comment on his 
 contributions to the discipline.

 Cheers,
  
 Karl W.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gerald Peterson [mailto:peter...@vmail.svsu.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:20 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date


 Is psychophysics being taught at the undergrad level?  I was introduced to 
 Fechner in an undergrad Exper. Psych class and then in the capstone History 
 and Systems class, but I don't see references to psychophysical methods in 
 most Experimental psych texts.  I would think it would be covered in our SP 
 class.  I do mention Fechner and Weber in Intro tho. Gary




 Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. 
 Professor, Department of Psychology 
 Saginaw Valley State University 
 University Center, MI 48710 
 989-964-4491 
 peter...@svsu.edu 

 - Original Message -
 From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
 Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:44:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

 A long time ago an old friend introduced me to the tradition of serving cake 
 in class on Fechner day. I recommend it. Some places can even put a photo in 
 the icing. Fechner's mug makes everyone take a small piece so one cake can 
 stretch through a large class.

 Bill Scott


   
 Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 10/22/09 5:28 PM 
 
 The Zend-Avesta was a religious text (after a manner of speaking) by 
 Fechner, in which he outlined his daylight view of science (a kind of 
 pan-psychist, post-Romantic view of the world), as opposed to he called 
 the twilight view (of materialism). (The Avesta is a sacred text of 
 Zoroastrians, who (to a first approximation) worship the sun.) He also 
 wrote abook about the soul life of plants.

 Neither has ever been translated to my knowledge, but Michael 
 Heidelberger's biography of Fechner is an excellent source (if a bit 
 dense).

 Chris
   



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[tips] How to control your email

2009-10-23 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
If you ever get email that your usual junk email filter doesn't catch, there is 
a solution even if you are on Outlook Web Access (and other web access to email 
probably have similar controls, if you poke around). 

Click the Options button will give you access to junk email controls. Clicking 
it you can access block lists to which you can add a specific email address if 
the user of that address happens to offend you. 

Here is a link to a pretty clear explanation of it at Arizona State 
University's site:

http://help.asu.edu/node/181

It isn't perfect, I can't screen out responses by others to that person. So, 
over the weekend I'll still see mysterious responses to in threads that don't 
appear to have an originating message. Maybe a solution to that will emerge 
over time.

You have the power to control your email, and it only takes a few minutes to 
exercise it and never have to deal with postings that you find obnoxious ever 
again. 

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RE: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

2009-10-23 Thread William Scott
Fechner, schmechner. Ask the graduate students if they know who Donald Hebb 
was. You'll get the same response. Maybe it's the sign of a maturing science. 
It's more important to know the facts than the names of those who discovered 
them. 

Or maybe it's something else.

Bill Scott


 Wuensch, Karl L wuens...@ecu.edu 10/22/09 10:26 PM 
I am probably the only faculty member at my institution who even 
mentions Fechner in the Intro class.  When I refer to Fechner with my graduate 
students they give me that WTF are you talking about look.  When I ask who 
has ever heard of Fechner, not a single hand is raised.  So sad.  A few will 
say they remember hearing of Weber, but none can comment on his contributions 
to the discipline.

Cheers,
 
Karl W.

-Original Message-
From: Gerald Peterson [mailto:peter...@vmail.svsu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:20 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date


Is psychophysics being taught at the undergrad level?  I was introduced to 
Fechner in an undergrad Exper. Psych class and then in the capstone History and 
Systems class, but I don't see references to psychophysical methods in most 
Experimental psych texts.  I would think it would be covered in our SP class.  
I do mention Fechner and Weber in Intro tho. Gary




Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. 
Professor, Department of Psychology 
Saginaw Valley State University 
University Center, MI 48710 
989-964-4491 
peter...@svsu.edu 

- Original Message -
From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:44:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

A long time ago an old friend introduced me to the tradition of serving cake in 
class on Fechner day. I recommend it. Some places can even put a photo in the 
icing. Fechner's mug makes everyone take a small piece so one cake can stretch 
through a large class.

Bill Scott


 Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 10/22/09 5:28 PM 
The Zend-Avesta was a religious text (after a manner of speaking) by 
Fechner, in which he outlined his daylight view of science (a kind of 
pan-psychist, post-Romantic view of the world), as opposed to he called 
the twilight view (of materialism). (The Avesta is a sacred text of 
Zoroastrians, who (to a first approximation) worship the sun.) He also 
wrote abook about the soul life of plants.

Neither has ever been translated to my knowledge, but Michael 
Heidelberger's biography of Fechner is an excellent source (if a bit 
dense).

Chris
-- 

Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

 

416-736-2100 ex. 66164
chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/

==



Ken Steele wrote:


 I have been wondering about the report of that dream, because it is 
 repeated so often--but without attribution.  I looked at the 1966 
 English translation of Elements of Psychophysics (Vol I) and   no 
 mention of the date or a dream occurs in the text.  (The translation 
 of the volume was NIH-funded to celebrate the centennial of the 
 publication of E of P. I guess we will need to wait until 2066 to see 
 the translation of Vol. II).

 E G Boring does the introduction to the translation and repeats the 
 dream story--without attribution of course.  Even more irritating is 
 an article by Boring (1961), in which the date/dream story is 
 higlighted several times, still without attribution.

 However, Boring (1929/1950) does provide an interesting bit of info in 
 his Experimental Psychology.  Fechner wrote a book, Zend-Avesta, oder 
 uber die Dinge des Himmels und des Jenseits, which was published in 
 1851.

 Boring (1929/1950, p. 279) notes: Oddly enough this book contains 
 Fechner's program of psychophysics...

 1851 would be a year after the famous dream and the dream/idea would 
 still be fresh.  The Elements contains mainly the results of the 
 program

 Google books has the Zend-Avesta online but my rusty knowledge of
 German and the old font system have managed to block my efforts to 
 find the psychophysics section.  Perhaps another scholar will have 
 better luck.

 Happy Fechner's Day,

 Ken

 Boring, E. G. (1961). Fechner: Inadvertent founder of psychophysics.  
 Psychometrika, 26, 3-8.





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Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

2009-10-23 Thread Christopher D. Green
Bill,

Learning names and dates is not learning history. They are just the 
foundation to learning it. Similarly, learning basic math is not 
learning science, but it is a foundation upon which (much of) science 
rests. Just like one cannot really get started doing (modern) science 
without mathematics, one cannot really get started learning history 
without knowing names and dates. The real history comes when one is able 
to put those people and their arguments and evidence into a wider 
historical context that allows us to really get at what they were trying 
to do and why. I'm not surprised that most students don't know Donald 
Hebb (and I say that as one who attended McGill myself). What is more 
worrying to me is that most (even graduate) students only barely know 
the names of Wundt and James, and even when they do, can hardly tell you 
anything about who they were or what they did. Only rarely do they know 
names like Hull and Tolman. Watson typically fares a bit better (due to 
Little Albert). Skinner better still. After the 1960s, psychology 
splintered in so many different directions that students generally only 
know the names of the people most closely associated with their area. 
 From the formative era of psychology, Weber, Fechner, Mueller, 
Stumpf, Hall, Cattell, Baldwin, Titchener, Angell, Dewey, Munsterberg, 
Jastrow, Scripture, Witmer, Goddard, Terman, Thorndike, Koehler, Koffka, 
Wertheimer, etc. all draw blank stares for the most part. (One of my 
favorites in this regard is David Shakow, who is probably the single 
most important person in the training of every (PhD) clinical 
psychologist in North America today, and virtually no one knows his name.)

As you say, it is, of course, important for students of psychology to 
learn psychological facts (if one can say such phrase so baldly 
without giggling). And I don't think it is worthwhile getting into the 
ancient debate about how much history the working scientist need know. 
(There is a great, classic article by Stephen Brush called Should the 
History of Science Be Rated X? (/Science/, 1974) that addresses this 
issue: http://tinyurl.com/ykeug52 ). But it seems to me that knowing a 
bit (and we are only talking about a tiny bit here) of the history of 
the science that one undertakes can't do any harm (if only to prevent 
one from going down previously explored blind alleys, and making 
previously-exploded invalid assumptions about what one is doing. As 
Santayana said (almost): Those who do not know their history are doomed 
to repeat it.

Santayana didn't have a logical (well, statsitical) proof of this, but I 
think a sketch of one would look something like this: Most of the smart 
people in history have come up with highly plausible explanations of the 
phenomena they have studied. Most of those candidate explanations, 
plausible as they were, have turned out to be false. When people later 
in history contemplate the same phenomena, they are likely to set upon 
the same plausible candidate explanations just because of their very 
plausibility. Knowing history will allow one to dismiss such 
explanations relatively quickly, despite their initial plausibility. 
Those who don't know their history, however, are more likely to commit 
great time and resources to pursuing the same (false) candidate 
explanations time and time again.

Chris
-- 

Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

 

416-736-2100 ex. 66164
chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/

==



William Scott wrote:
 Fechner, schmechner. Ask the graduate students if they know who Donald Hebb 
 was. You'll get the same response. Maybe it's the sign of a maturing science. 
 It's more important to know the facts than the names of those who discovered 
 them. 

 Or maybe it's something else.

 Bill Scott


   
 Wuensch, Karl L wuens...@ecu.edu 10/22/09 10:26 PM 
 
   I am probably the only faculty member at my institution who even 
 mentions Fechner in the Intro class.  When I refer to Fechner with my 
 graduate students they give me that WTF are you talking about look.  When I 
 ask who has ever heard of Fechner, not a single hand is raised.  So sad.  A 
 few will say they remember hearing of Weber, but none can comment on his 
 contributions to the discipline.

 Cheers,
  
 Karl W.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gerald Peterson [mailto:peter...@vmail.svsu.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:20 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date


 Is psychophysics being taught at the undergrad level?  I was introduced to 
 Fechner in an undergrad Exper. Psych class and then in the capstone History 
 and Systems class, but I don't see references to psychophysical methods in 
 most Experimental psych texts.  I would think it would be covered in our SP 
 class.  I do mention Fechner and Weber in Intro tho. Gary




 Gerald 

RE: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

2009-10-23 Thread Jim Clark
Hi

Or a more pessimistic interpretation ... it is a sign of an immature discipline 
that its current members do not recognize (a) the foundations of their ideas, 
and (b) when they are rediscovering the wheel.

Take care
Jim

James M. Clark
Professor of Psychology
204-786-9757
204-774-4134 Fax
j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca
 
Department of Psychology
University of Winnipeg
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3B 2E9
CANADA


 William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu 23-Oct-09 8:12 AM 
Fechner, schmechner. Ask the graduate students if they know who Donald Hebb 
was. You'll get the same response. Maybe it's the sign of a maturing science. 
It's more important to know the facts than the names of those who discovered 
them. 

Or maybe it's something else.

Bill Scott


 Wuensch, Karl L wuens...@ecu.edu 10/22/09 10:26 PM 
I am probably the only faculty member at my institution who even 
mentions Fechner in the Intro class.  When I refer to Fechner with my graduate 
students they give me that WTF are you talking about look.  When I ask who 
has ever heard of Fechner, not a single hand is raised.  So sad.  A few will 
say they remember hearing of Weber, but none can comment on his contributions 
to the discipline.

Cheers,
 
Karl W.

-Original Message-
From: Gerald Peterson [mailto:peter...@vmail.svsu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:20 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date


Is psychophysics being taught at the undergrad level?  I was introduced to 
Fechner in an undergrad Exper. Psych class and then in the capstone History and 
Systems class, but I don't see references to psychophysical methods in most 
Experimental psych texts.  I would think it would be covered in our SP class.  
I do mention Fechner and Weber in Intro tho. Gary




Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. 
Professor, Department of Psychology 
Saginaw Valley State University 
University Center, MI 48710 
989-964-4491 
peter...@svsu.edu 

- Original Message -
From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:44:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [tips] Fechner Day! -- that darn date

A long time ago an old friend introduced me to the tradition of serving cake in 
class on Fechner day. I recommend it. Some places can even put a photo in the 
icing. Fechner's mug makes everyone take a small piece so one cake can stretch 
through a large class.

Bill Scott


 Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 10/22/09 5:28 PM 
The Zend-Avesta was a religious text (after a manner of speaking) by 
Fechner, in which he outlined his daylight view of science (a kind of 
pan-psychist, post-Romantic view of the world), as opposed to he called 
the twilight view (of materialism). (The Avesta is a sacred text of 
Zoroastrians, who (to a first approximation) worship the sun.) He also 
wrote abook about the soul life of plants.

Neither has ever been translated to my knowledge, but Michael 
Heidelberger's biography of Fechner is an excellent source (if a bit 
dense).

Chris
-- 

Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
Canada

 

416-736-2100 ex. 66164
chri...@yorku.ca 
http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ 

==



Ken Steele wrote:


 I have been wondering about the report of that dream, because it is 
 repeated so often--but without attribution.  I looked at the 1966 
 English translation of Elements of Psychophysics (Vol I) and   no 
 mention of the date or a dream occurs in the text.  (The translation 
 of the volume was NIH-funded to celebrate the centennial of the 
 publication of E of P. I guess we will need to wait until 2066 to see 
 the translation of Vol. II).

 E G Boring does the introduction to the translation and repeats the 
 dream story--without attribution of course.  Even more irritating is 
 an article by Boring (1961), in which the date/dream story is 
 higlighted several times, still without attribution.

 However, Boring (1929/1950) does provide an interesting bit of info in 
 his Experimental Psychology.  Fechner wrote a book, Zend-Avesta, oder 
 uber die Dinge des Himmels und des Jenseits, which was published in 
 1851.

 Boring (1929/1950, p. 279) notes: Oddly enough this book contains 
 Fechner's program of psychophysics...

 1851 would be a year after the famous dream and the dream/idea would 
 still be fresh.  The Elements contains mainly the results of the 
 program

 Google books has the Zend-Avesta online but my rusty knowledge of
 German and the old font system have managed to block my efforts to 
 find the psychophysics section.  Perhaps another scholar will have 
 better luck.

 Happy Fechner's Day,

 Ken

 Boring, E. G. (1961). Fechner: Inadvertent founder of psychophysics.  
 Psychometrika, 26, 3-8.





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[tips] Return to baseline

2009-10-23 Thread michael sylvester
Baseline measures are usually taken prior to putting an experimental variable 
into effect.
It is assumed that any changes below or above the baseline are due to the 
manipulation of the experimental vriable.There is a type of experimental design 
where the experimental variable
is withdrawn and see if behavior returns to baseline,With this observation the 
certainty of the experimental variable  effects is assured.My question is that 
although the withdrawal of medical treatment raises some ethical concerns,are 
the cases in  psychological experimental where the
attempts to return to baseline can be construed as a desirable experimental 
outcome?

Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida 
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[tips] Pub Manual v6 what is shipping now?

2009-10-23 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
So, if I purchase copy of the Publication Manual of the APA, 6th edition, what 
printing is now shipping? How long do we wait to make sure we get what we want?

What ISBN do I list for students to ensure they buy the right printing? Is it 
an ISBN number change? Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks!

Paul C. Bernhardt
Department of Psychology
Frostburg State University
Frostburg, Maryland

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Re:[tips] categories of intelligence

2009-10-23 Thread mrsteve2u

I have a question

What's the difference between Sternberg's practical intelligence and the 
construct of crystallized intelligence (Horn/Catell)?

Seems like Sternberg focuses on tacit knowledge but can't that be considered a 
subset of crystallized?

Steve

Steven Hall
Butte Community College
CSUC
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[tips] Before Fechner

2009-10-23 Thread michael sylvester
The British Egyptologist E Wallis Budge in his works Egypt-the light of the 
world has some interesting facts about early Egyptian science.Interestingly 
enough the ideas of  Fechner and the other structuralists were already know by 
those Egyptians and Africans.As I have reiterated many times bfore Psychology 
began as a science in Africa.
And was underdevelopped by the Eurocentric paradigm.

Michaelomnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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[tips] No Einstein in Your Crib? Get a Refund - NYTimes.com

2009-10-23 Thread Christopher D. Green
Parent alert: the Walt Disney Company is now offering refunds for all 
those Baby Einstein videos that did not make children into geniuses. 
They may have been a great electronic baby sitter, but the unusual 
refunds appear to be a tacit admission that they did not increase infant 
intellect.

For the rest, see:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/24/education/24baby.html?hp

Chris
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[tips] 10 worst ideas of Psychology

2009-10-23 Thread michael sylvester
1.Negative reinforcement -trying to be like physics wannabes
2.Fundamental attribution error-depends on if one lives in an individualistic 
culture
3,Developmental stages- very vague;where does one stop and the other begins 
-continous or discrete
4.Intelligence-what is it? Whites think that it has to do with the 3Rs and 
abstract thinking
 The term should be abolished from the language
5. Statistical significance
6.Need for achievement (Nach)-McC;elland took this idea to India,it was a major 
flop
7.Stimulus and Response-very difficult to distinguish: cannot have one without 
the other
8.Psychology as a science
9.Academic transfer-the idea that teaching critical thinking skills will turn 
out better students -most students just want a good grade.
10,Learning and conditioning.This takes the prize.There is no such thing as 
conditioning in the real world.As a matter of fact this is a topic that we can 
do without.Learning and conditioning  are artifacts of our domrstication.L and 
C do not exist in the real world of animals where everything
come about through fix action patterns.The closet to any form of learning that 
exist in the wild are tropisms and habituation.

Michaelomnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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[tips] H1N1 vaccine effect-walking backwards

2009-10-23 Thread michael sylvester
Submitted to me by a Canadian friend working in Doha,Qatar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR5p_bD3uLc

woman disabled by flu vaccine.



Michael
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