Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
���On 29 August 2009 Michael Sylvester wrote: >How do we determine major and minor psychological theories? >I have noted a tendency to allocate major status to theories >emanating in Europe most of them Jewish and minor to those > emanating outside of Europe. >[…] >Send me something. Michael: Perhaps for a change you could send *us* something: For instance, some statistically-based evidence for your assertion. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London http://www.esterson.org --- michael sylvester Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:35:18 -0700 How do we determine major and minor psychological theories? I have noted a tendency to allocate major status to theories emanating in Europe most of them Jewish and minor to those emanating outside of Europe.Of course withun each group there are hierarchical divisions. Freud is over Adler. American bred functionalism puts James and Dewey on a higher status than Angell and Carr. Re behaviorism, Skinner is upgraded whereas Watson is downgraded.There are splits among gestaltists, humanists, and existentialists.And the Russian dude Vigotsky gets no respect in developmental theory. I have noted a preference to favor theories that emphasize discrete stages than overlappping and interacting phases. Send me something. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
Michael, I think you have missed on most of the assignments you made in your posting. Freud has been dismissed by most people who were ever interested in him, and Jung isn't given a lot of credence. Skinner and Watson are both the "fathers" of the kind of learning that they espoused, and I'm not sure they can be lumped into the same category for comparison (and I'm sure that there will be disagreements about that from the members of this list). And, finally, among developmentalists, Vygotsky is as well regarded as Piaget and probably moreso among educators. Let the arguments commence. Original message >Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:35:05 -0400 >From: "michael sylvester" >Subject: [tips] Determining major and minor >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > > How do we determine major and minor psychological > theories? I have noted a tendency to allocate major > status to theories emanating in Europe most of them > Jewish and minor to > those emanating outside of Europe.Of course withun > each group there are hierarchical divisions.Freud is > over Adler.American bred functionalism puts James > and Dewey on a higher status than Angell and Carr.Re > behaviorism,Skinner is upgraded whereas Watson is > downgraded.There are splits among > gestaltists,humanists,and existentialists.And the > Russian dude Vigotsky gets no respect in > developmental theory.I have noted a preference > to favor theories that emphasize discrete stages > than overlappping and interacting > phases. > Send me something. > > Michael Sylvester,PhD > Daytona Beach,Florida > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Bob Wildblood, PhD, HSPP Lecturer in Psychology Indiana University Kokomo Kokomo, IN 46904-9003 rwild...@iuk.edu - drb...@erols.com 765-236-0583 - 765-776-1727 The soundest argument will produce no more conviction in an empty head than the most superficial declamation; as a feather and a guinea fall with equal velocity in a vacuum. - Charles Caleb Colton, author and clergyman (1780-1832) Not thinking critically, I assumed that the "successful" prayers were proof that God answers prayer while the failures were proof that there was something wrong with me. - Dan Barker, former preacher, musician (b. 1949) We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible. - Barack Obama, President of the United States of America --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
Michael: Perhaps for a change you could send *us* something: For instance, some statistically-based evidence for your assertion. Allen Esterson If I was going about looking for evidence,I would be brain dead. Michael --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
An interesting conjecture. On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:49 PM, michael sylvester wrote: Michael: Perhaps for a change you could send *us* something: For instance, some statistically-based evidence for your assertion. Allen Esterson If I was going about looking for evidence,I would be brain dead. Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato paul.bran...@mnsu.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
Michael, supposing what you have "noted" is in fact the case, please tell us who is doing the "allocating". Allen Esterson Allen: One does need a weatherman to "note" which way the wind is blowing. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
RE: [tips] Determining major and minor
Dear Tipsters,
While I heartily approve of MS quoting a Dylan line ("You don't need a weather
man to know which way the wind blows"), it is disheartening to see that his
"pithy" comment undercuts our academic debate.
All AE did was to make a reasonable request for a citation for MS's claim, for
how can we debate a claim unless we know that it has been made?
So I politely repeat Alan's request:
Michael: Who has made the claim about major and minor theories and approaches
(besides yourself in the posting)?
Sincerely,
Stuart
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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
���On 30 August 2009 Stuart McKelvie wrote:
>All AE did was to make a reasonable request for a citation
>for MS's claim, for how can we debate a claim unless we
>know that it has been made?
>So I politely repeat Alan's request:
>Michael: Who has made the claim about major and minor
>theories and approaches (besides yourself in the posting)?
In response to Michael's "I have noted a tendency to allocate major
status to theories emanating in Europe most of them Jewish and minor to
those emanating outside of Europe", I also asked who is doing the
"allocating".
I presume it is the ubiquitous "they" (details to be filled in
according to one's prejudices).
Allen Esterso
n
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org
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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor
michael sylvester
Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:12:13 -0700
>Michael, supposing what you have "noted" is in fact the case,
>please tell us who is doing the "allocating".
>Allen Esterson
Allen: One does need a weatherman to "note" which way the wind is
blowing.
Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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RE: [tips] Determining major and minor
Stuart McKelvie
Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:30:05 -0700
Dear Tipsters,
While I heartily approve of MS quoting a Dylan
line ("You don't need a
weather
man to know which way the wind blows"), it is disheartening to see that
his
"pithy" comment undercuts our academic debate.
All AE did was to make a reasonable request for a citation for MS's
claim, for
how can we debate a claim unless we know that it has been made?
So I politely repeat Alan's request:
Michael: Who has made the claim about major and minor theories and
approaches
(besides yourself in the posting)?
Sincerely,
Stuart
Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402
Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661
Bishop's University,
2600 rue College,
Sherbrooke,
Québec J1M 201Z7,
Canada.
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