Nobel 1961

2001-03-06 Thread Cone, Al

Folks,
I thing we can claim Georg von Bekesy who got the Nobel Prize for Physiology
or Medicine in 1961.  He was at Harvard from 1947 to 1966 after which he was
professor of sensory sciences at the University of Hawaii. On the basis of
his work in audition I think we can claim him in the pantheon of
psychologists who have gotten Nobel prizes, e.g.,  Experiments in Hearing
(1960).

Al Cone, Retired




Re: Final Exam schedules...

2001-03-06 Thread Richard Pisacreta


> >I am not a member of our union, but I would oppose your suggestion >of docking (or otherwise constraining) those who do not give finals >during finals week. I do not give a comprehensive final and the last >exam usually covers 2-3 chapters. I sometimes (not always) give >exams during the last day of class giving the students more time to >study for comprehensive finals. It is understood that those of us >who do this will be present during the regularly scheduled finals >period which I use for makeup exams. I do this mainly for the >benefit of the students or at least I think I do. > > >>Harry Avis Ph.D. >
That's fine Harry. We also have people here that use the final exam period in similar ways. But I am talking about people who give finals during the last lecture week and don't show up at all during the final exam week. They basically take a week's paid vacation at the expense of some students. These people should be docked pay.
 
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Re: Final Exam schedules...

2001-03-06 Thread Harry Avis

I am not a member of our union, but I would oppose your suggestion of 
docking (or otherwise constraining) those who do not give finals during 
finals week. I do not give a comprehensive final and the last exam usually 
covers 2-3 chapters. I sometimes (not always) give exams during the last day 
of class giving the students more time to study for comprehensive finals. It 
is understood that those of us who do this will be present during the 
regularly scheduled finals period which I use for makeup exams. I do this 
mainly for the benefit of the students or at least I think I do.


>Harry Avis Ph.D.
Sierra College
Rocklin, CA 95677

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>>I believe that is already the policy at the University of Pittsburgh. The >instructor of the third test is the one who must do the makeup, if memory serves. >It seems a reasonable policy to me. What bugs me is the instructors who give >finals on the last class (against college policy), so students skip my last class >to study. > don > Donald McBurney 
It's the same policy here with the same problem, people giving finals before finals week. Although I am pro union, I would have no problem with the dept. heads going around and seeing who is not holding final exams, and docking them a day's pay.
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RE: Student goals, expectations

2001-03-06 Thread Richard Pisacreta

I have been reading TIPS for years and have always had the impression that most of you were conscientious teachers. On the "student goals", "poor motivation" issues, my advice is to not let your concern for them result in stress related illnesses. Some of them will still not be motivated, some will still have poor goals, but now you will have the added health problem to deal with. I have noticed around here that several of my colleagues are self destructing over the job stress and constant second guessing themselves It also helps to have a life away from the school.
 
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Couldn't some of these students who just want to pass be in a "fear of failure" mode. That is, they would rather go for a "C" which they know they can earn, rather than try for an "A" and feel that they failed if they get a lower grade?  
 
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Re: Student goals, expectations

2001-03-06 Thread Richard Pisacreta


> > >I do think that, in both cases, I tried to get the students to think how *they* >might adapt and change so that they are more successful. What adaptation and >change should occur in me? 
I recommend that you go on doing the best that you can and DON'T let some of these people give you health problems.
 
 
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Re: Final Exam schedules...

2001-03-06 Thread Richard Pisacreta


>>I believe that is already the policy at the University of Pittsburgh. The >instructor of the third test is the one who must do the makeup, if memory serves. >It seems a reasonable policy to me. What bugs me is the instructors who give >finals on the last class (against college policy), so students skip my last class >to study. > don > Donald McBurney 
It's the same policy here with the same problem, people giving finals before finals week. Although I am pro union, I would have no problem with the dept. heads going around and seeing who is not holding final exams, and docking them a day's pay.
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RE: Student goals, expectations

2001-03-06 Thread Richard Pisacreta

Couldn't some of these students who just want to pass be in a "fear of failure" mode. That is, they would rather go for a "C" which they know they can earn, rather than try for an "A" and feel that they failed if they get a lower grade?  
 
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Vision Questions

2001-03-06 Thread Claudia Stanny

Larry Daily asks:

>1. Do blind people "see" anything? My thought was that someone blind from
>birth would have no visual experience at all, or they wouldn't be able to
>report it, not having the experience of "normal" vision to compare to. On
>the other hand, someone blinded as a result of disease or injury after
>growing up sighted - what do they experience? Is it a uniform black (or gray
>or some other color) field? Is it like having your eyes closed in a dark
>room?
>

I don't know what the subjective experience would be like.  I think perhaps
you might be thinking of the phenomenon of blind sight, which occurs
sometimes in individuals who lose vision as a result of a brain injury.
These individuals have no conscious experience of sight but will duck to
avoid getting hit by an object tossed at them and can respond at
above-chance levels about whether a light was turned on in their right vs.
left visual field when they are told to guess.  My understanding of this is
that the eyes are functional and sub-cortical visual areas mediate these
responses.

>2. Are there folks who are color-blind as a result of having no cones at
>all? This seems unlikely to me (isn't the fovea all cones?), but I wasn't
>sure.

Oliver Sacks wrote a book about this unusual condition (The Island of the
Color Blind).  In addition to being unable to see color, these individuals
have extremely poor visual acuity (as you would expect for some one with no
foveal vision).   They also have great difficulty functioning under ambient
light that is stronger than twilight because the rods are bleached under
high illumination conditions.

>
>3. What would cause poor depth perception? Is there a particular brain
>region or visual pathway that, if damaged, results in the inability to
>perceive depth?

Some depth perception is mediated by monocular cues.  Other aspects of
depth perception are mediated by binocular cells (cells in visual cortex
that receive input from both eyes).  These are the cells that are
stimulated by the Magic Eye posters (remember those?).  Animals who are
deprived of binocular vision no longer have effective use of these
binocular cells (they eventually come to be devoted to one eye or the other
during a period of plasticity).  (Barlow did some of this work.  Sorry, I
don't have the reference handy.)  This can also happen with a person with
uncorrected strabismus.  They can still resolve monocular depth cues, but
are not as accurate as individuals with an intact binocular cell organization.
 
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Re: Vision Questions

2001-03-06 Thread Deborah Briihl

Going for 2 and 3



>2. Are there folks who are color-blind as a result of having no cones at
>all? This seems unlikely to me (isn't the fovea all cones?), but I wasn't
>sure.

Color blindness (no color vision at all) can results from either missing 
all cones or missing 2 of the 3 types. If an individual is missing all 
cones, it does lead to visual problems other than color blindness - they 
tend to have problems with bright light (since rods work better in dim 
light). Complete color blindness can also occur with damage to V4 in the brain.



>3. What would cause poor depth perception? Is there a particular brain
>region or visual pathway that, if damaged, results in the inability to
>perceive depth?

Poor depth perception - such as problems with binocular disparity? Ah, that 
I know (through experience!). The visual system needs appropriate 
environmental stimuli as it is developing, otherwise, no binocular 
disparity. If someone has a lazy eye or one eye is a lot stronger than 
other, this may only partially develop or not develop at all! An individual 
with one eye would not have binocular disparity. However, you learn 
monocular cues that can be used for depth perception.


>Thanks in advance,
>Larry
>
>
>Larry Z. Daily
>Assistant Professor of Psychology
>Department of Psychology
>White Hall, Room 213
>Shepherd College
>Shepherdstown, West Virginia 25443
>
>phone: (304) 876-5297
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW: http://webpages.shepherd.edu/LDAILY/index.html

Deb

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The Philosophy-Science Continuum

2001-03-06 Thread mjkane


This article from The Chronicle of Higher Education 
(http://chronicle.com) was forwarded to you from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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The following message was enclosed:
  Hi all,
  
  The attached Chronicle of Higher Ed piece is relevant to
  recent discussions about the relation between science and
  philosophy (it's written by Howard Gardner).
  
  -Mike


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  From the issue dated March 9, 2001



  The Philosophy-Science Continuum

  By HOWARD GARDNER
  
   Our age is marked by the triumph of science. Greek
  philosophers may have been the first to raise questions about
  the nature of matter, living entities, knowledge, will, truth,
  beauty, and goodness. In recent centuries, however, philosophy
  has steadily been yielding ground, enthusiastically or
  reluctantly, to empirical science. Why speculate endlessly
  about the physical or biological or psychological world, for
  example, when you can carry out laboratory experiments, make
  precise measurements, test predictions, and revise proposed
  explanatory theories in light of findings? If there are
  material or psychic costs to this unflinchingly empirical
  approach, most of us have little desire to confront them.
  
  For many of us, the heartland of philosophical and scientific
  inquiry is the human mind. Nowadays, interdisciplinary
  discussion about the disputed nature of this territory takes
  place chiefly in scholarly journals or on  Internet sites.It
  is rare to encounter a full-length book in which scholars
  representing competing approaches have the leisure to lay out
  their positions, undertake substantial interchanges with one
  another, and provide examples. There was the 1977 discussion
  of Self and Its Brain, a dialogue between the philosopher Karl
  R. Popper and the neuroscientist John C. Eccles. That work
  stood out because both authors took a dualistic approach to
  the mind and the body: Such a frank separation of mind and
  matter is increasingly rare in philosophy and virtually unique
  in recent neuroscience. More recently, in 1995, the
  neuroscientist Jean-Pierre Changeux and the mathematician
  Alain Connes conducted an interchange that was translated into
  English as Conversations on Mind, Matter, and Mathematics
  (Princeton University Press, 1995). That book indicates how
  difficult the genre can be: The two debaters proceeded from
  such different premises and were sufficiently dismissive of
  each other that they resembled two French tankers passing each
  other at midnight.
  
  In any debate conducted in the new millennium, it is likely
  that philosophy -- and particularly humanistic, as opposed to
  more scientifically oriented analytic, philosophy -- will
  appear on the defensive. Science has glamour, muscle, powerful
  theories and methods, dramatic findings, and the promise of
  additional ones next week. Philosophy may tout its
  venerability, but it often appears preoccupied with the
  decidedly less sexy weapons of definitions, clarifications,
  doubts, and "thought [as opposed to 'real'] experiments."
  
  Still, philosophers past and present have refused to give up
  the struggle without a fight. With respect to issues of the
  mind, Immanuel Kant once argued that a science of psychology
  was impossible; later, Ludwig Wittgenstein ridiculed both
  psychologists and philosophers for routinely speaking past one
  another. In our own day, Thomas Nagel has written persuasively
  about the impossibility of capturing experience ("What is it
  like to be a bat?" he has asked); Hubert Dreyfus has
  denigrated computer-based efforts to simulate human thought;
  and John Searle has issued similar indictments against
  artificial intelligence, insisting that human consciousness
  has a unique biological status that sets people apart from all
  known machines.
  
  Indeed, when it comes to questions of the human mind,
  consciousness, and experience, philosophers retain one
  powerful weapon. Put bluntly, a good many people -- especially
  those who consider themselves humanists -- still prefer to
  believe that there is something special about human beings,
  some properties that do not lend themselves to explanations in
  the same way that one can explain the structure of the
  universe or the anatomy of the cell or the food preferences of
  other animals.
  
  Copernicus marginalized our planet; Darwin marginalized our
  species; Freud marginalized our conscious and rational life.
  Many, if not most, of us still believe that, as people, we
  retain a privileged relationship to religious beliefs, works
  of art, loves and hates, dreams and fantasies, and moral
  sentiments -- in short, for want of a less cliched term, the
  realm of the spirit. In some sense, when philosophers and
  scientists put on the gloves, we hope that philosophers will
  strike at least a few powerful blows 

Vision Questions

2001-03-06 Thread Larry Z. Daily

Hello all,

My intro students were playing "stump the instructor" yesterday and came up
with a number of questions that I had no ready answers for. Can anyone help?

1. Do blind people "see" anything? My thought was that someone blind from
birth would have no visual experience at all, or they wouldn't be able to
report it, not having the experience of "normal" vision to compare to. On
the other hand, someone blinded as a result of disease or injury after
growing up sighted - what do they experience? Is it a uniform black (or gray
or some other color) field? Is it like having your eyes closed in a dark
room?

2. Are there folks who are color-blind as a result of having no cones at
all? This seems unlikely to me (isn't the fovea all cones?), but I wasn't
sure.

3. What would cause poor depth perception? Is there a particular brain
region or visual pathway that, if damaged, results in the inability to
perceive depth?

Thanks in advance,
Larry


Larry Z. Daily
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Department of Psychology
White Hall, Room 213
Shepherd College
Shepherdstown, West Virginia 25443

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Re: I/O Texts

2001-03-06 Thread Marie Helweg-Larsen


I also think the Muchinsky text is excellent as is the student work book.
However, because I am not trained in I/O I took a different path when I
started teaching it last year. I assigned Spector's book (Wiley). 
The author makes all his lecture and chapter outlines available online. 
The Spector book is not very detailed or rigorous, but I supplement with
original readings (journal articles) and write my lectures from Muchinsky.
I've also found Aamodt (third edition) Applied I/O Psychology, Books/Cole/Wadsworth
useful for the purposes of class preparation/lectures.
Marie
David Campbell wrote:
"M. Press" wrote:
> Could some of you share your suggestions for introductory texts in
> industrial/organizational psychology?  Thanks.
>
> Mark
>
> M. Press, Ph.D.
> Professor of Psychology, Touro College, 1602 Avenue J, Brooklyn,
NY 11230
> 718-252-7800, x 275
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like Muchinsky's "Psychology Applied to Work" (Wadsworth).  It
provides a
balance between solid coverage, lively writing, and research emphasis. 
Last
year I tried Shultz & Shultz "Psychology & Work Today" (Prentice-Hall)
but
found it too light and laced with inaccuracies (the students seemed
to like
it--easy reading).
I don't really have a second choice text at this time, so I'll be interested
in what others might suggest.  Riggio's "Introduction to
Industrial/Organizational Psychology" (Prentice-Hall) is worth a look. 
There
are a number of others, but my brief examination suggested problems
in
writing style or currency of material.
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Re: five theories of creationism?

2001-03-06 Thread Paul Brandon

At 12:35 PM -0600 3/5/01, Jim  Guinee wrote:
>4)  The "age-day" theory is based upon the fact that the Hebrew word for
>"day" usually meant a 24-hour period, but by no means was it limited to that
>meaning.  It can also mean epochs or long periods of time, and this is how it
>should be understood in this context.
>
>5)  The "pictorial-day" (or literary framework) theory regards the
>creation as
>more a matter of logical structuring than of chronological order.  Either
>God's
>revelation to Moses (believed to be the author of Genesis) came in a series
>of six pictures, or Moses arranged the material in a logical grouping which
>took the form of six periods.
>
>The author summarizes by suggesting that the most tenable theory is the
>"age-day" theory.  He states that there are too many exegeticl difficulties
>attached to the gap theory, and the flood theory involves too great a
>strain on
>geological evidence.  The ideal-time theory is ingenious and in many ways
>irrefutable scientifically and exegetically, but presents the theological
>problem that it makes God look deceptive (and if God is supposed to be
>truthful, this is contrary to the bible writers claim that God is not God's
>nature).   The pictorial theory resolves the problem of chronological
>sequence, but has difficulties with God resting on the seventh day
>(suggesting there IS some sort of chronological sequence).
>
>The author contends that the age-day theory is the option that best fits
>biblical wording and geological evidence.  Yet, he also points out that a)
>there is no way to be dogmatic about this, and b) the age of the universe
>is a
>topic that needs additional scientific and biblical analysis.
>
>How about that?

I'm afraid you'll have to stay with your "pictorial-day" interpretation.
The "age-day" interpretation contradicts the geological and genetic
evidence that flowering plants are a recent development, chronologically
speaking.
They emerged _after_ 'the beasts of the fields'.

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Re: IRB question-informed consent

2001-03-06 Thread Deborah Briihl

Do they need to be in separate envelopes? I know that I have received a 
variety of surveys that just use one envelope for all information.

At 09:46 AM 3/6/01 -0500, Marie Helweg-Larsen wrote:
>I am the IRB chair at our small liberal arts college. I have a bunch of
>IRB websites from other colleges and NIH but I can't find the piece of
>information I need.
>
>This is the issue: students in a political science class want to mail
>(names from the phone book) a questionnaire asking about political
>opinions and voting behavior. The only sensitive question is income
>(indicated within  $2 intervals). Our standard procedure is to have
>participants sign and return the informed consent form. It would
>typically be returned in a different envelope from the questionnaire to
>keep the questionnaire anonymous. This procedure is too expensive for
>the students (paying for two return envelopes). Thus the question: can
>the participant consent without a signature? Can you say something like
>"by completing and returning this questionnaire you have consented to
>participate in this study"?  A related question: if this procedure is
>ethical, then why ever have people sign informed consent forms for
>simple attitude questionnaires such as this?
>Marie
>
>--
>Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D.
>Program Director & Assistant Professor of Psychology
>Transylvania University
>300 North Broadway
>Lexington, KY 40508-1797
>Office: (859) 281-3656
>Web page: http://www.transy.edu/homepages/mhelweglarsen/index2.html

Deb

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Valdosta State University
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Re: Another religious message

2001-03-06 Thread Paul Brandon

At 2:12 PM -0600 3/5/01, jim clark wrote:
>Hi
>
>On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Paul Brandon wrote:
>> At 12:17 PM -0600 3/5/01, jim clark wrote:
>> >In reading the article and looking at related material on the
>> >www, the idea sharpened for me that psychology's involvement in
>> >discussions about religiousness should be quite central.  Would
>> >not a fundamental question be whether in explaining human
>> >religiousness (beliefs, feelings, actions) we need to incorporate
>> >supernatural elements?  Or are natural processes adequate to
>> >explain such beliefs?
>>
>> Isn't this tantamount to proving the null hypothesis?

>The null hypothesis has to do with statistical validity, so I'm
>not sure how it applies here (but perhaps with deeper thought).

Sorry.  I tend to stretch my analogies.
'Proving the null hypothesis' means proving that there is no difference
between two populations.  This is impossible in the real world since it is
always possible that new observations will change the results.
Therefore, statisticians evaluate the likelihood that the difference
between the populations is due to chance, and either reject or fail to
reject the null hypothesis on that basis (I know you know this; I'm
estalishing the basis for my argument).

By analogy, proving that supernatural explanations are unnecessary implies
proving that natural explanations are sufficient.
Again, this would require exhaustive knowledge of all possible physical
questions and answers.  Since it is always possible that a new observation
could result in an unanswerable question, this could not be done.

>A more physical example first might help.  Do we need the idea of
>gods guiding the planets in order to explain the observable
>behaviour of planets?  Or are our physical explanations
>sufficient?  At what point does it stop being necessary or even
>desirable to continue with appeals to supernatural forces?

As I indicated in another post, even trying to address a comparison between
religious and scientific explanation is a losing enterprise since they are
based on different assumptions.
For instance: how do we disconfirm supernatural explanations?
A miracle can always be invoked.  Thus, a supernatural/religious
explanation is not the same thing as a scientific explanation; they cannot
be interchanged.
The best argument that I can think of is parsimony:
If scientific explanation can address (if not currently answer) all
questions about the physical world, it is neither necessary nor economical
to invoke a new category of explanation.

>> There will always be unanswered questions about human behavior (we lack
>> complete data), and God can always slide into these gaps (to coin a phrase
>> ;-).
>
>But most religious people would not be very happy with a "god of
>the gaps," especially if those gaps become increasingly rare,
>small, and relatively unimportant.

Of course!

>> The real question is whether natural processes are the most effective way
>> to account for human behavior.
>
>This begs the question of what we mean by effective.  Defining
>effective as capacity to predict, control, and explain (the
>typical criteria for scientific models), there would appear to be
>little doubt about the most effective approach to understanding
>the physical world.  And, I would argue, increasingly the
>psychological world that concerns us.

Or even, the 'psychological world' is part of the physical world.

>> Again, the two sysytems work under such different assumptions that it's
>> really hard to make a comparison.  By accepting one set of assumptions we
>> have made out choice!
>
>Does that mean that psychologists should not even try to explain
>religious behaviour in naturalistic terms?
   ^

Of course not.  This is part of the physical world.
As I posted before, as a psychologist I am (intensely) interested in what
people _do_ in the name of religion.
As Steve Gould says, this belongs with the Age of Rocks, not the Rock of Ages.

Best

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RE: I/O Texts

2001-03-06 Thread Truhon, Stephen

I have used Muchinsky's Psychology Applied to Work consistently. I think it
is about the best out there.

Stephen A. Truhon
Department of Social Sciences
Winston-Salem State University
Winston-Salem, NC 27110

> -Original Message-
> From: M. Press [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:35 AM
> To:   TIPS; PSYCHTEACHER
> Subject:  I/O Texts
> 
> Could some of you share your suggestions for introductory texts in
> industrial/organizational psychology?  Thanks.
> 
> Mark
> 
> M. Press, Ph.D.
> Professor of Psychology, Touro College, 1602 Avenue J, Brooklyn, NY 11230
> 718-252-7800, x 275
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Re: IRB question-informed consent

2001-03-06 Thread Vincent Prohaska


I am not on our IRB, which is probably why your solution sounds fine to
me. I had a similar case several years ago in which we were asking people
to complete a survey while in a waiting room. We thought the best way to
ensure anonimity was to have them drop completed surveys into a box. 
Thus, we could never find out who chose to participate and who
didn't (it was a busy area, so it would not have been the case that 
only a single person was there). The problem became the IRB's
demand for a signed informed consent form, that would give us
information as to whehter people chose to participate or not. We
eventually got the IRB to drop the consent form, using the argument 
that if people freely chose to complete the survey and put it in
the box, they were consenting.

As to why this issue comes up, ther is an excellent article in this week's
Chronicle of Higher Education about how IRB's follow a medical model
that is often "overkill" when it comes to most social science research.

Vinny



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Re: IRB question-informed consent

2001-03-06 Thread David Campbell

In my experience, IRBs differ as to whether a separate signed consent form
is needed with questionnaires and surveys.  I have served as IRB chair in
the past and it seems obvious to me that filling out a mailed questionnaire
is a voluntary and intentional action that constitutes consent.
Unfortunately, our IRB feel otherwise--preferring to take the most
conservative approach.

A separate issue is whether IRBs should rule narrowly on whether minimal
ethical standards are exceeded, or whether they should "meddle" with the
design, making suggestions for good research, etc.  The argument can be
made that if the IRB is charged with evaluating the value of the findings
against the cost to the subjects, then it is OK to meddle (so as to improve
the value of the findings by improving the research design).  I personally
prefer the narrow focus, but again our IRB differs with me.  This is a
serious issue for our graduate students who find the IRB to be a major
hurdle on our campus.

--Dave Campbell

Marie Helweg-Larsen wrote:

> I am the IRB chair at our small liberal arts college. I have a bunch of
> IRB websites from other colleges and NIH but I can't find the piece of
> information I need.
>
> This is the issue: students in a political science class want to mail
> (names from the phone book) a questionnaire asking about political
> opinions and voting behavior. The only sensitive question is income
> (indicated within  $2 intervals). Our standard procedure is to have
> participants sign and return the informed consent form. It would
> typically be returned in a different envelope from the questionnaire to
> keep the questionnaire anonymous. This procedure is too expensive for
> the students (paying for two return envelopes). Thus the question: can
> the participant consent without a signature? Can you say something like
> "by completing and returning this questionnaire you have consented to
> participate in this study"?  A related question: if this procedure is
> ethical, then why ever have people sign informed consent forms for
> simple attitude questionnaires such as this?
> Marie
>
> --
> Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D.
> Program Director & Assistant Professor of Psychology
> Transylvania University
> 300 North Broadway
> Lexington, KY 40508-1797
> Office: (859) 281-3656
> Web page: http://www.transy.edu/homepages/mhelweglarsen/index2.html

--
___

David E. Campbell, Ph.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of PsychologyPhone: 707-826-3721
Humboldt State University   FAX:   707-826-4993
Arcata, CA  95521   www.humboldt.edu/~campbell/psyc.htm





Re: I/O Texts

2001-03-06 Thread David Campbell



"M. Press" wrote:

> Could some of you share your suggestions for introductory texts in
> industrial/organizational psychology?  Thanks.
>
> Mark
>
> M. Press, Ph.D.
> Professor of Psychology, Touro College, 1602 Avenue J, Brooklyn, NY 11230
> 718-252-7800, x 275
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I like Muchinsky's "Psychology Applied to Work" (Wadsworth).  It provides a
balance between solid coverage, lively writing, and research emphasis.  Last
year I tried Shultz & Shultz "Psychology & Work Today" (Prentice-Hall) but
found it too light and laced with inaccuracies (the students seemed to like
it--easy reading).

I don't really have a second choice text at this time, so I'll be interested
in what others might suggest.  Riggio's "Introduction to
Industrial/Organizational Psychology" (Prentice-Hall) is worth a look.  There
are a number of others, but my brief examination suggested problems in
writing style or currency of material.

--
___

David E. Campbell, Ph.D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of PsychologyPhone: 707-826-3721
Humboldt State University   FAX:   707-826-4993
Arcata, CA  95521   www.humboldt.edu/~campbell/psyc.htm





RE: I/O Texts

2001-03-06 Thread Sally Radmacher

I think Muchinsky is by far the best I/O text.

Sally A. Radmacher, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
Missouri Western State College
4525 Downs Drive
St. Joseph, MO  64507
(816) 271-4353
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: M. Press [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 12:35 AM
To: TIPS; PSYCHTEACHER
Subject: I/O Texts


Could some of you share your suggestions for introductory texts in
industrial/organizational psychology?  Thanks.

Mark

M. Press, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology, Touro College, 1602 Avenue J, Brooklyn, NY 11230
718-252-7800, x 275
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]



IRB question-informed consent

2001-03-06 Thread Marie Helweg-Larsen

I am the IRB chair at our small liberal arts college. I have a bunch of
IRB websites from other colleges and NIH but I can't find the piece of
information I need.

This is the issue: students in a political science class want to mail
(names from the phone book) a questionnaire asking about political
opinions and voting behavior. The only sensitive question is income
(indicated within  $2 intervals). Our standard procedure is to have
participants sign and return the informed consent form. It would
typically be returned in a different envelope from the questionnaire to
keep the questionnaire anonymous. This procedure is too expensive for
the students (paying for two return envelopes). Thus the question: can
the participant consent without a signature? Can you say something like
"by completing and returning this questionnaire you have consented to
participate in this study"?  A related question: if this procedure is
ethical, then why ever have people sign informed consent forms for
simple attitude questionnaires such as this?
Marie

--
Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D.
Program Director & Assistant Professor of Psychology
Transylvania University
300 North Broadway
Lexington, KY 40508-1797
Office: (859) 281-3656
Web page: http://www.transy.edu/homepages/mhelweglarsen/index2.html





RE: From religion to the paranormal

2001-03-06 Thread jim clark

Hi

On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Rick Adams wrote:
>   Not that I necessarily support Schwartz' "research" or
> opinions (I don't have the primary source material in front
> of me to evaluate objectively),

Should we be teaching students that they should/must remain
agnostic on certain issues unless they can examine the original
source material for themselves and must make themselves experts
in any domain that they wish to promote some opinion about?  I
don't think so.  Indeed I think that this would be a road to
disaster for any discipline that wanted to have some impact on
the wider world.  It is simply impossible for us as faculty to
evaluate every piece of potential evidence and idea for even
small areas of our discipline (witness the debates on this list).  
How can we expect that students and other consumers of
psychological knowledge will obtain the requisite skills and
information?  But lack of specific knowledge should not prevent
people learning to differentiate likely-nonsense from
possibly-not-nonsense with respect to human behaviour.  With
respect to the present topic of discussion, for example,
Schwartz's work is completely extraordinary given all the
previous efforts to evaluate mediums and other parapsychological
phenomena.  It is extremely improbable that mediums could
function as well as Schwartz is claiming without any prior
researcher having been able to produce this effect in an
unquestionable manner.  Schwartz has also put himself squarely in
the camp of the alternative [pseudo-]sciences (e.g., homeopathy,
energy psychology).

> but isn't it rather interesting to note that the responses to claims of
> "after death" communications have been 100% skeptical here in TIPS (with
> Jim's message the most erudite of the responses so far) while responses to
> the concept that a supernatural being exists who "created" the earth are
> treated with respect and some measure of acceptance? Maybe I'm
> unreasonable, but I can FAR more easily accept the concept of telepathy
> (which, ultimately, is what the depicted research was examining as the
> subjects were present and had the correct information available to them)
> than I can the concept that some kind of a "super Santa Claus" exists who
> is watching all the time to see if I've been "good or bad" before giving
> me my presents. If claims of psychic or "spiritualistic" phenomenon are of
> value to us as teachers only for the purpose of demonstrating bad research
> or faulty conclusions, it would seem that creationism or the concept of a
> deity should enjoy the same role in our classrooms.

A large part of the New Yorker essay that provoked this
discussion was addressed to this "privileged" status of religion
in North America (especially the USA ... but I would say the
same is pretty much true in Canada).  At least in Schwartz's
case, it appears that there might be some relationship in his
mind between parapsychological effects and supernatural effects
of the religious kind.

>   Rick <--waiting for the stroke of lightening . . .

Depends on whether the supreme being you are questioning is prone
towards punishment (i.e., striking you with lightning) or
education (i.e., [en]lightening you).

Best wishes
Jim


James M. Clark  (204) 786-9757
Department of Psychology(204) 774-4134 Fax
University of Winnipeg  4L05D
Winnipeg, Manitoba  R3B 2E9 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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