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Tom wrote: Is there not some collective action that could repair this? Maybe I have just missed the point of TIPS. TIPS has been pretty much the same since I joined it years ago--it's a combination of a place to discuss classroom strategies, teaching techniques, new theoretical perspectives, and almost anything that is of interest to those of us who teach psychology. At times it gets political or combative in nature (particularly when dealing with religion) but it returns to its normal focus eventually--and provides us all with a comfortable meeting place where we can talk comfortably with our peers. I doubt you'll see many changes here in the future--it's pretty much standardized by now. Rick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . and the only measure of your worth and your deeds will be the love you leave behind when you're gone. --Fred Small
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At 1:40 PM -0400 9/14/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: Let get to the roots of the past and current factors that contribute to that type of insanity. The roots of the problems in the Middle East go back _at least_ 2000 years. So far, you haven't mentioned anything further back than 50. * PAUL K. BRANDON[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Department507-389-6217 * * The University formerly known as Mankato State * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
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The basic learning principles that account for thinking of a name associated with a place are obvious enough. You might have considered them before posting this message with its implications. As soon as the news reports about the suspects receiving flight training in Florida were broadcast, Michael Sylvester was the very first name that entered my consciousness. That is particularly amazing when you consider how much trouble I have with names. When the Flight Instructor who did the simulator training was being interviewed, I was on the edge of my recliner, watching for the name Michael Sylvester to appear below his picture. --== ô¿ô ==-- Sometimes you just have to try something, and see what happens. And sometimes you should know enough not to try. * PAUL K. BRANDON[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Department507-389-6217 * * The University formerly known as Mankato State * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
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At 11:46 AM -0400 9/14/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: Give back the land to the Palestinians and halt Israeli expansionism. Michael - Thousands of people didn't die violent deaths on Tuesday because the U.S. supports Israel. They died because a group of people who believe they can get their way with violence decided to act. Nothing, and I mean *nothing* justifies this type of act. Johnna Shapiro Psychology Department IWU
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As the great historian, Burkehardt said, beware the simplifiers! Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier www.therandomthoughts.com Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 /~\/\ /\ 229-333-5947 /^\ / \/ /~\ \ /~\__/\ / \__/ \/ / /\ /~\/ \ /\/\-/ /^\_\/__/___/^\ -_~/ If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ _ _ / don't practice on mole hills -\
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I would strongly suggest we all read the op-ed piece in this morning's Washington Post entitled At War with A Wraith It will offer some insight into the more realistic and complex global issues at play. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier www.therandomthoughts.com Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 /~\/\ /\ 229-333-5947 /^\ / \/ /~\ \ /~\__/\ / \__/ \/ / /\ /~\/ \ /\/\-/ /^\_\/__/___/^\ -_~/ If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ _ _ / don't practice on mole hills -\
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Or re-read, The Lucifer Principle. -- Louis_Schmier wrote: I would strongly suggest we all read the op-ed piece in this morning's Washington Post entitled At War with A Wraith It will offer some insight into the more realistic and complex global issues at play. * http://www.coe.uca.edu/psych/scoles/index.html * Mike Scoles *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Department of Psychology *voice: (501) 450-5418 * * University of Central Arkansas*fax: (501) 450-5424 * * Conway, AR72035-0001 * * *
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Paul Brandon wrote: At 11:46 AM -0400 9/14/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: Give back the land to the Palestinians and halt Israeli expansionism. Which lands? What land is there in the former British Mandate that both Israelis and Palestinians do not claim (and with some validity)? Read Robert Ardrey The territorial imperative Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida
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Read Robert Ardrey The territorial imperative Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida Oh - great idea! One of the most theoretically unsound books ever to be passed off as science. Can you say group selection? Sheesh Michael really has gone too far this time. I am tempted to request his removal from the list - but I guess the very principles of freedom we are fighting for require me to let him babble on. Thank god nobody takes him seriously. -- Jim Dougan
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At 1:17 PM -0400 9/14/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Paul Brandon wrote: At 11:46 AM -0400 9/14/01, Michael Sylvester wrote: Give back the land to the Palestinians and halt Israeli expansionism. Which lands? What land is there in the former British Mandate that both Israelis and Palestinians do not claim (and with some validity)? Read Robert Ardrey The territorial imperative You might read some history and get some facts instead. * PAUL K. BRANDON [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Psychology Dept Minnesota State University, Mankato * * 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 * *http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html*
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Rick Adams wrote: Michael Sylvester wrote: Give back the land to the Palestinians and halt Israeli expansionism. Not to burst your bubble, Michael, but: 1. WE aren't holding the disputed land in the first place--so we can't give it back. 2. Israel is a sovereign nation--do you suggest we use military force to control our allies expansion as a response to the use of violence against our civilians by their enemies? Sorry, Michael, but when terrorists try to control other nations by killing their civilian citizens, it's time to stomp out those terrorists. I've never supported Israeli expansion--but right now if they were to suggest that they needed the land occupied by Afghanistan, I'd be very tempted to offer to loan them the 182 Airborne to help out! You don't stop terrorism by capitulation--you stop it by inflicting such severe penalties on them that no one in their right mind would do it again. The USSR had a policy that if an aircraft were hijacked the terrorists would NOT leave it alive--NO negotiations, no exceptions. They didn't have very many (one) hijackings after they made that decision. I'm amazed that you would consider using the aftermath of this tragedy to put forward your anti-Eurocentric crap--amazed and offended. Rick Let get to the roots of the past and current factors that contribute to that type of insanity. I have not mentioned Eurocentrism for over six months now. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida one of the guidelines for critical thinking is to avoid emotional reasoning
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I took a six month sabbatical from TIPS because the signal to noise ratio was just to low to make it worth my effort, I had hoped that maybe it would be self-correcting, like good science, or that maybe extinction would work. I returned this week, discovering that not much has changed. Is there not some collective action that could repair this? Maybe I have just missed the point of TIPS. I must add that when TIPS is good, it is very, very good, and when it is bad. . . Tom Hershberger Thomas J. Hershberger Professor of Psychology Chatham College Pittsburgh, PA 15232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 412 365-1128 -Original Message- From: Jim Dougan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:02 PM To: Michael Sylvester; TIPS Subject: Re: solving future plane strategies At 01:20 PM 9/14/01 -0400, Michael Sylvester wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Louis_Schmier wrote: As the great historian, Burkehardt said, beware the simplifiers! Make it a good day. how about the law of parsimony. Why look for complex solutions if a simple solution would do. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Flprida How about looking to Piaget's theories of cognitive development? Those who have failed to reach formal operations are unable to ask anything but simple questions and see anything but simple solutions.
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Michael Sylvester wrote: how about the law of parsimony. Why look for complex solutions if a simple solution would do. Michael- Aside from your misapplication of the principle, simple solutions are appropriate for simple problems. Terrorism is not a simple problem nor, to paraphrase Sandra Scarr, is this a simple world. To be quite honest, I believe that offering that there are simple solutions to this problem, that there is a direct causal connection between the Israel Palestine problem (which has exsisted for far longer than the US), and other such nonsense is disrespectful to Israel, Palestine, and the lives of the victims of this tragedy. Such simplifications presuppose that Palestine is the perpetrator; That Israel could have prevented it or bears responsibility for the acts; That the US controls its allies and its enemies. All of which is absurd. Michael- this level of simplification is inconsistent with reasoned discourse. Tim Shearon _ Albertson College of Idaho Caldwell, Idaho 83713 Neurpsychology, psychopharmacology, history and systems of psychology. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Flprida
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OK. If nobody else will say it, I will. I recognize, of course, that by doing so I will probably damage my reputation for tactfulness, diplomatic acumen, and calm, reasoned thought. Have you talked to the FBI in the past few days, Michael? Considering your expressed views over the years, your location, your connection with the aviation training industry, etc., I should think they would wish to have a little talk with you. Since I really cannot bring myself to believe that you would be involved in such an act, I would suggest that it might be a good idea for you to initiate contact rather than wait for them to do so. As soon as the news reports about the suspects receiving flight training in Florida were broadcast, Michael Sylvester was the very first name that entered my consciousness. That is particularly amazing when you consider how much trouble I have with names. When the Flight Instructor who did the simulator training was being interviewed, I was on the edge of my recliner, watching for the name Michael Sylvester to appear below his picture. Michael Sylvester wrote: Give back the land to the Palestinians and halt Israeli expansionism. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida -- --== ô¿ô ==-- Sometimes you just have to try something, and see what happens. John W. Nichols, M.A. Associate Professor of Psychology Tulsa Community College 909 S. Boston Ave., Tulsa, OK 74119 (918) 595-7134 Home: http://www.tulsa.oklahoma.net/~jnichols MegaPsych: http://www.tulsa.oklahoma.net/~jnichols/megapsych.html
