[tips] Advice needed

2010-08-27 Thread michael sylvester
One of my students-who is a single mom and  strip dances at a high end 
gentleman's club to help  pay her way through college-has invited me to come 
see her act. Should I accept?

Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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[tips] The Illustrated Guide to a Ph.D.

2010-08-27 Thread roig-reardon


Our department chair sent us this neat site and I thought some of you would 
appreciate it: 



The Illustrated Guide to a Ph.D. 

http://matt.might.net/articles/phd-school-in-pictures/ 

If you scroll down you will find links to versions in Portuguese, Spanish and 
other languages. 

Miguel
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Re: [tips] Advice needed

2010-08-27 Thread David Wheeler, Ph.D.
LOL I think you have to wait until she has not been a student of yours 
for a long time!


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One of my students-who is a single mom and strip dances at a high end
gentleman's club to help pay her way through college-has invited me to
come see her act. Should I accept?
Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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Re: [tips] Advice needed

2010-08-27 Thread Louis E. Schmier
Appearances, appearances, appearances.

Make it a good day

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On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:02 AM, David Wheeler, Ph.D. wrote:

LOL I think you have to wait until she has not been a student of yours for a 
long time!

On 8/26/10 10:58 PM, michael sylvester wrote:
 
 
 
 One of my students-who is a single mom and strip dances at a high end
 gentleman's club to help pay her way through college-has invited me to
 come see her act. Should I accept?
 Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
 Daytona Beach,Florida
 
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RE: [tips] Advice needed

2010-08-27 Thread Alejandro Franco
That depends. she's a single mom. Michael, seriously and between us, are you
the father of her first child?  Or is just that she wants you to be the
father of the second one?

Have a nice weekend,

Alex

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Northern Catholic University

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Skype: ensepsi

 

 

 

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One of my students-who is a single mom and  strip dances at a high end
gentleman's club to help  pay her way through college-has invited me to come
see her act. Should I accept?

 

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Daytona Beach,Florida

 

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[tips] Raising Hitler to be a nice person

2010-08-27 Thread Beth Benoit
I just finished reading another obituary for O. Ivar Lovaas, which ended
with this astounding statement:

To the end of his career, Dr. Lovaas was adamant that applied behavior
analysis was supremely useful in childhood interventions of all kinds.

“If I had gotten Hitler here at U.C.L.A. at the age of 4 or 5,” he told Los
Angeles magazine in 2004, “I could have raised him to be a nice person.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/health/23lovaas.html

I don't know whether this is a result of a stunning ego, underappreciation
on my part, or maybe he was misquoted, like Freud in his statement about the
Nazis.  What think you?

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire

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Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be a nice person

2010-08-27 Thread Jim Clark
Hi

Reminds me of the movie The Boys from Brazil, in which Hitler was
cloned and then extreme efforts taken to reproduce his early
environment.  I wonder if Lovaas would also have argued that he could
take any boy at 4 or 5 and turn out a Hitler?

Take care
Jim

James M. Clark
Professor of Psychology
204-786-9757
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 Paul Brandon paul.bran...@mnsu.edu 27-Aug-10 2:45:23 PM 
Beth--

A bit of hyperbole maybe, but do you think that Hitler's personality
was totally genetically determined?
What makes the statement so astounding?
Hitler (and Stalin, and Mao, et.al.) were human beings, not demons.
There were many reasons why they were what they were; the fact that
they were in positions to do terrible harm doesn't mean that many other
people in the same circumstances would not have been just as bad.
Behavior can be changed.
In many ways, I'd prefer Lovaas's (over)optimism to a fatalism that
simply demonizes people.

Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
paul.bran...@mnsu.edu 

On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Beth Benoit wrote:

  
 I just finished reading another obituary for O. Ivar Lovaas, which
ended with this astounding statement:
 
 To the end of his career, Dr. Lovaas was adamant that applied
behavior analysis was supremely useful in childhood interventions of all
kinds.
 
 *If I had gotten Hitler here at U.C.L.A. at the age of 4 or 5,*
he told Los Angeles magazine in 2004, *I could have raised him to be a
nice person.*
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/health/23lovaas.html 



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[tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab

2010-08-27 Thread Robin Abrahams
TIPSters--

This is my first piece for Salon, about the experiments at Marc Hauser's Canine 
Cognition Lab: 

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/27/canine_cognition_lab_marc_hauser

Robin

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RE: [tips] Raising Hitler to be a nice person

2010-08-27 Thread Marc Carter

I think Watson might have believed he could...

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 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca]
 Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:56 PM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be a nice person

 Hi

 Reminds me of the movie The Boys from Brazil, in which
 Hitler was cloned and then extreme efforts taken to reproduce
 his early environment.  I wonder if Lovaas would also have
 argued that he could take any boy at 4 or 5 and turn out a Hitler?

 Take care
 Jim

 James M. Clark
 Professor of Psychology
 204-786-9757
 204-774-4134 Fax
 j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca

  Paul Brandon paul.bran...@mnsu.edu 27-Aug-10 2:45:23 PM 
 Beth--

 A bit of hyperbole maybe, but do you think that Hitler's
 personality was totally genetically determined?
 What makes the statement so astounding?
 Hitler (and Stalin, and Mao, et.al.) were human beings, not demons.
 There were many reasons why they were what they were; the
 fact that they were in positions to do terrible harm doesn't
 mean that many other people in the same circumstances would
 not have been just as bad.
 Behavior can be changed.
 In many ways, I'd prefer Lovaas's (over)optimism to a
 fatalism that simply demonizes people.

 Paul Brandon
 Emeritus Professor of Psychology
 Minnesota State University, Mankato
 paul.bran...@mnsu.edu

 On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Beth Benoit wrote:

 
  I just finished reading another obituary for O. Ivar Lovaas, which
 ended with this astounding statement:
 
  To the end of his career, Dr. Lovaas was adamant that applied
 behavior analysis was supremely useful in childhood
 interventions of all kinds.
 
  *If I had gotten Hitler here at U.C.L.A. at the age of 4 or 5,*
 he told Los Angeles magazine in 2004, *I could have raised
 him to be a nice person.*
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/health/23lovaas.html



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Re: [tips] Raising Hitler to be a nice person

2010-08-27 Thread Joan Warmbold
Paul, you are one of the very few that provide the notorious and 
ubiquitous quote by Watson in its' entirety.  Most sources don't include 
the last part where Watson states I am going beyond my fact and I admit 
it, but so have  . .   Bet many on this listserv have not even been the 
complete quote. 


Joan
Joan Warmbold Boggs
jwarm...@oakton.edu

Paul Brandon wrote:

The quotation:
“ Give me a dozen healthy infants, well-formed, and my own specified world to 
bring them up in and I'll guarantee to take any one at random and train him to 
become any type of specialist I might select – doctor, lawyer, artist, 
merchant-chief and, yes, even beggar-man and thief, regardless of his talents, 
penchants, tendencies, abilities, vocations, and race of his ancestors. I am 
going beyond my facts and I admit it, but so have the advocates of the contrary 
and they have been doing it for many thousands of years. [Behaviorism (1930), 
p. 82] ”

Note the second clause of the first sentence; I suspect that Lovaas would have 
agreed (to answer Jim's question as well).
Same logic as Archimedes' 'Give me a long enough lever and a place to rest my 
fulcrum and I could move the Earth.'

Stating the conditions under which you could accomplish something doesn't mean 
that it's likely that you would actually HAVE those conditions available to you.

Paul Brandon


  

  


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RE: [tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab

2010-08-27 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
Awesome! I love seeing someone be skeptical of those studies. I'd seen a PBS 
show about those studies a few weeks ago and thought that it looked 
insufficiently controlled for them to make the claims they were making. But, I 
wasn't willing to be dismissive because often when they show how psychological 
studies are done some of the controls are not indicated clearly, so I didn't 
want to simply dismiss them. Your having taken your dog to the study gives an 
insiders view of how that lab operates. 

But, I think you may be too hard on the difficulty of psychologists to isolate 
dog behavior in the lab. They would do well to get some people who really know 
dogs and are aware that dogs are social hierarchy pack animals. I think that 
the studies could be properly designed and executed, and finding good evidence 
for theory of mind in dogs seems likely to me. Having a theory of mind seems 
pretty valuable for that particularly kind of mammal. Cooperative behavior in 
the pack might be the key to the value of a theory of mind. I can only 
effectively cooperate with you if I can imagine what your perspective and 
opportunities in the situation is. Domesticated dogs are sensitive to humans 
meaning that the experiments need to have timing cues for everyone so that the 
dog is not getting signals from anyone. It could be done, IMO. 

Paul C. Bernhardt
Department of Psychology
Frostburg State University
Frostburg, Maryland



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Sent: Fri 8/27/2010 4:00 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: [tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab
 
TIPSters--

This is my first piece for Salon, about the experiments at Marc Hauser's Canine 
Cognition Lab: 

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/27/canine_cognition_lab_marc_hauser

Robin

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Re: [tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab

2010-08-27 Thread sblack
On 27 Aug 2010 at 16:00, Robin Abrahams wrote:

 TIPSters--
 
 This is my first piece for Salon, about the experiments at Marc Hauser's 
 Canine Cognition Lab: 
 
 http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/27/canine_cognition_lab_marc_hauser

Interesting piece, Robin! Apropos of Paul Bernhard's comment 
on scepticism about these studies,  I have a question. You were 
holding Milo back and then you released him. Did you know on 
each trial which bucket held the treat?

True, it didn't matter as Milo didn't solve the problem anyway. 
But if he had, it might have been because he was able to use 
the  experimenter-arrranged cue. Or you could have 
inadvertently provided a physical cue yourself. Given all the 
trouble over the studies purporting to show language use in 
primates, one would think they would taken elementary 
precautions to avoid a Clever Hans effect. All they had to do 
was to make sure you didn't know where the treat was.

Did you?

Stephen

Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.  
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University   
e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
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Re: [tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab

2010-08-27 Thread Robin Abrahams
I do not now, nor did I ever, know the location of the treat. 


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To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 6:24 PM

On 27 Aug 2010 at 16:00, Robin Abrahams wrote:

 TIPSters--
 
 This is my first piece for Salon, about the experiments at Marc Hauser's 
 Canine Cognition Lab: 
 
 http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/27/canine_cognition_lab_marc_hauser

Interesting piece, Robin! Apropos of Paul Bernhard's comment 
on scepticism about these studies,  I have a question. You were 
holding Milo back and then you released him. Did you know on 
each trial which bucket held the treat?

True, it didn't matter as Milo didn't solve the problem anyway. 
But if he had, it might have been because he was able to use 
the  experimenter-arrranged cue. Or you could have 
inadvertently provided a physical cue yourself. Given all the 
trouble over the studies purporting to show language use in 
primates, one would think they would taken elementary 
precautions to avoid a Clever Hans effect. All they had to do 
was to make sure you didn't know where the treat was.

Did you?

Stephen

Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.          
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University               
e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
2600 College St.
Sherbrooke QC  J1M 1Z7
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Re: [tips] Article on Marc Hauser's lab

2010-08-27 Thread sblack
Robin Abrahams, doing a fine imitation of Alger Hiss, replied to 
my query:
 
 I do not now, nor did I ever, know the location of the treat. 

That's good. But how did they arrange for you to not know? 
Were you blindfolded?

Following your reply, you may add:

I have answered two questions, and that is enough,
 Said Robin A.; don't give yourself airs!
 Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
 Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs! 

Stephen

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Re: [tips] Advice needed

2010-08-27 Thread sblack
On 27 Aug 2010 at 12:38, Alejandro Franco wrote:

 That depends... she´s a single mom... Michael, seriously and between us, 
 are you the 
 father of her first child? Or is just that she wants you to be the father 
 of the second 
 one?
 Have a nice weekend,
 Alex
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 Email: alejandro.franc...@gmail.com
 Skype: ensepsi
 

Hola Alejandro:

That's in Chile, my google tells me [Universidad Católica del 
Norte], not 500 km from the miracle of the miners, much in the 
news these days. And very good news at that. 

You may be our only TIPSter from the Southern Hemisphere. 
Welcome! How's the weather down there? Dry, I'll bet.

Regards

Stephen


Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.  
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University   
e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
2600 College St.
Sherbrooke QC  J1M 1Z7
Canada
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RE: [tips] Advice needed

2010-08-27 Thread Alejandro Franco
On 27 Aug 2010 at 19:29 (GMT-5) Stephen Black wrote:
  Hola Alejandro:

  That's in Chile, my google tells me [Universidad Católica del 
  Norte], not 500 km from the miracle of the miners, much in the 
  news these days. And very good news at that. 

  You may be our only TIPSter from the Southern Hemisphere. 
  Welcome! How's the weather down there? Dry, I'll bet.
  
  Regards
  
  Stephen

Hola Stephen and TIPSters:

Thanks a lot for the welcome message.  Weather is fine, maybe a little bit
of rain and near the 70's, thanks for asking (I think in Sherbrooke, Canada,
it's about 54°F right now).  I'm near the Equator so we don’t have seasons,
it's the same temperature all year long (depending on the altitude, I live
at 7000 ft or 2150 m), so there are just rainy seasons and dry seasons... 

There are two universities with very similar names, one of those is the one
that you find in Chile (Universidad Catolica del Norte) and the other one is
in Colombia (Fundacion Universitaria Catolica del Norte).  I'm in Colombia,
near Medellin, working for an online psychology program.  

Two months ago we also have a tragedy with miners in this state (Antioquia),
but they weren't so lucky, all 73 died
http://www.minesandcommunities.org/article.php?a=10196  so I was really
pessimistic with the Chileans at the beginning, and now I'm glad to see that
I was wrong.  

I don't know if I'm the only tipster from South America, but I enjoy a lot
the discussion between TIPSters around teaching tips and psychology, that's
why I subscribed to the TIPS list and to the PSYTEACH list too.  I haven't
see something like the APA Division 2 here in South America, so maybe that's
why there aren't a lot of latino psychologists in TIPS (and, of course,
because of the language barrier).  

Since last year I've been working trying to overcome a little this barrier
translating some teaching tips to Spanish and sharing them with other
psychology teachers, making a website about the teaching of psychology in
Spanish, having a mail list to share information about the teaching of
psychology, and translating to Spanish the main page of the OTRP Teaching of
Psychology Idea Exchange http://teachpsych.pbworks.com/ (the En Espanol
section).  My next step is going to be the Webinars (using Microsoft Office
Live Meeting, GotoMeeting, WebEx or similar).  Right now it's a kind of
solitary effort, but I think that in the future more colleagues will be
interested and will also be able to participate more in this knowledge and
expertise sharing projects. 

I hope that all the TIPSters will have a nice weekend,
Alejandro
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Alejandro Franco
Psychology Coordinator
Northern Catholic University
Email: alejandro.franc...@gmail.com
Skype: ensepsi



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