[tips] MICHAEL SMITH
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Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance
Mike S. et al. I've lived in northern new england twice, and long enough, to have leaned the language (e.g. "'yup, nope' and other Vermont conversations"), so I really don't mind the concise or pithy or even abbreviated in surface structure, especially as I frequently catch emails on the fly and send notes on a Blackberry with that tiny little keyboard. Not that I don't appreciate the longer, more academic posts, I do. As far as references, I would rather use PsychArticles for tracking down detailed information and quotes and finely honed logic on those small number of topics that I am interested in and can devote serious time to. I find that TIPs is at its best for quick tips and pointing people in the direction of more information ... but, as they say, bandwidth is inexpensive. == John W. Kulig, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Director, Psychology Honors Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 == - Original Message - From: "Michael Smith" To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:20:04 PM Subject: Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance In response to: "It is tiring and unnecessary (I think) to wade through a lot of verbiage particularly on a list-serve" Allen said " I find that a rather remarkable comment, on two counts. First, no one has to "wade" through any post on this listserv" First the first statement isn't really remarkable at all. Of course, if you want to be very literal you can claim Allen's response as being a legitimate interpretation. Of course it isn't, and he knows it I presume (or perhaps I presume too much). An intelligent interpretation would be that the statement presumes the person is interested in the subject. Then to find out what the author is saying, the reader must read all the verbiage. If Allen and Mike P really believe that it's news to people that they don't have to read what they don't want to..well what can you say. Allen's second point. "Second, this is a listserv for professionals (academics, one might say). There are some issues that cannot be dealt with adequately in a few concise sentence..." This is clearly wrong. There is no subject no matter how complex that cannot benefit from concision. It also excludes most of the posts here since almost nothing discussed here is "complex". In addition, no one suggested that the response: not be well thought out must be limited to a few sentences. not include references The actual point was: Complete english sentences and paragraphs are unnecessary and so are quotes. Including these actually detracts from the essential points. That is, for busy "professionals (academics, one might say)." --Mike --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: ku...@mail.plymouth.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454&n=T&l=tips&o=6624 or send a blank email to leave-6624-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6703 or send a blank email to leave-6703-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance
Well, I pay little attention to due dates :-) Hmm. It seems the point, silly as it is, is still not getting across. I'll try to simplify further... My point was: Must a post be in essay format to be well thought out, informative, and properly referenced? Put another way, the Essay Hypothesis: "A post MUST be in essay format to be well thought out, informative, and properly referenced." (must was capitalized incase that was missed before) Is the essay hypothesis true? My correct answer is no. The only way the "essay hypothesis" can be true is if it is impossible to see the above qualities in a non-essay response. This is obviously not the case. Simply strip the essay let's say of descriptives for example (plainly, obviously, elegant, melodramatic, etc.) and there you go. It may not be as easy to read, but all the information will still be there, but it will no longer be an essay. I think the original intention, however, was the objection to verbiage. This is not an insult despite what Stephen may gleem from dictionaries. It does mean an over-abundance of words which implies they are unnecessary. Here is an example of verbiage (from Allen): "This thread is well past its sell-by date, and I had no intention of prolonging it," Here is an example from me "Well, I pay little attention to due dates :-)" Should verbiage (unnecessary words) be eliminated? Definately Yes. If one feels they detract from the post. Definately No. If one feels they don't detract or even enhance the post. So there you have it. I think all who contributed here should be rightly proud of their efforts. I'm sure Monty Python would be :-) --Mike --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6702 or send a blank email to leave-6702-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] question about measurement text
I am looking for an introductory text that covers (1) the variety of ways we collect data - surveys, laboratory experiments, tests, naturalistic observation, etc (2) descriptive statistics & correlations, and (3) the basics of reliability and validity .. A few years ago I used Sommer & Sommer's "A practical guide to behavioral research" and I don't know if it is still in print. I also have used Rosnow and Rosenthal's 'Beginning behavioral research" (their undergraduate text, not their "essentials" for graduate work) which actually hits all 3 areas, but don't know if it is still out there .. any suggestions about other texts will be appreciated. == John W. Kulig, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Director, Psychology Honors Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 == --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6700 or send a blank email to leave-6700-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance
It is my understanding that products are still effective 10 days beyond their expiration date. Michael - Original Message - From: To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance Despite Allen E's declaration that this thread, with its unlikely subject header, has reached its "sell-by-date" (that's "best by" to Canucks), I can't restrain myself here. I had asserted that the word "verbiage" used by Michael Smith to describe certain TIPS posters carried an insulting connotation. Mike rashly denied this, arguing I disagree. I don't see the word verbiage to be an insult. It means an over-abundance of words. True. But it means more than that. The magisterial Oxford English Dictionary (the OED) says, as part of its brief definition of "verbiage, "Wording...without necessity or without much meaning". That's an insult in my book (well, ok in the OED's book). Lesser lights concur. World English Dictionary verbiage - n 1. The...often meaningless use of words Computing Dictionary verbiage definition This term borrows the connotations of mainstream "verbiage" to suggest that the documentation is of marginal utility and that the motives behind its production have little to do with the ostensible subject. The Oxford Dictionary (another one, I guess) A profusion of words usually of little or obscure content Collins English Dictionary 1. the excessive and often meaningless use of words And finally, my wife agrees with me, so I must be right. So, Mike, I'm willing to admit that some of my posts may be too long if you admit that yours are verbiage. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: msylves...@copper.net. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13424.eb17e1c03643c971ab35c22d86587541&n=T&l=tips&o=6697 or send a blank email to leave-6697-13424.eb17e1c03643c971ab35c22d86587...@fsulist.frostburg.edu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3271 - Release Date: 11/21/10 17:35:00 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6699 or send a blank email to leave-6699-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Pavlovian-Thanksgiving conditioning
A prof had a dog that was conditioned to "sit" outside the entrance of a shopping mall while he did some shopping inside. However he forgot that he had previously conditioned that dog to escape from an electrified grid at the ringing of a bell. Then the Salvation Army bell ringers came and positioned themselves in proximity to the dog and began ringng bells. When the prof returned to get fido,his words were "doggonit". References available upon request. Michael "omnicentric" Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6698 or send a blank email to leave-6698-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Canada's early intolerance
Despite Allen E's declaration that this thread, with its unlikely subject header, has reached its "sell-by-date" (that's "best by" to Canucks), I can't restrain myself here. I had asserted that the word "verbiage" used by Michael Smith to describe certain TIPS posters carried an insulting connotation. Mike rashly denied this, arguing > I disagree. I don't see the word verbiage to be an insult. It means an > over-abundance of words. True. But it means more than that. The magisterial Oxford English Dictionary (the OED) says, as part of its brief definition of "verbiage, "Wording...without necessity or without much meaning". That's an insult in my book (well, ok in the OED's book). Lesser lights concur. World English Dictionary verbiage - n 1. The...often meaningless use of words Computing Dictionary verbiage definition This term borrows the connotations of mainstream "verbiage" to suggest that the documentation is of marginal utility and that the motives behind its production have little to do with the ostensible subject. The Oxford Dictionary (another one, I guess) A profusion of words usually of little or obscure content Collins English Dictionary 1. the excessive and often meaningless use of words And finally, my wife agrees with me, so I must be right. So, Mike, I'm willing to admit that some of my posts may be too long if you admit that yours are verbiage. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6697 or send a blank email to leave-6697-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:04:47 -0800, Stephen Black wrote: >On 23 Nov 2010 at 9:42, Mike Palij wrote: >> Stunning research results are provided > >Due a serendipitous line break in the url which Mike cited, what I >received was an even more shocking claim than the one actually made >by newsthump, namely: > > newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poo > >This is a highly provocative claim, and I have my doubts about it. >Further research is warranted. I think that Prof. Black has a good point here. Even at NYU where some wealthy students attend, I've always had the feeling that most students were richer in poo (particular the bull poo type) than mere money. Even so, use two-tailed tests of significances if relevant -- the perception of excessive student poo may just be due to the availability heuristic. ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6696 or send a blank email to leave-6696-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
On 23 Nov 2010 at 9:42, Mike Palij wrote: > Stunning research results are provided Due a serendipitous line break in the url which Mike cited, what I received was an even more shocking claim than the one actually made by newsthump, namely: newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poo This is a highly provocative claim, and I have my doubts about it. Further research is warranted. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6694 or send a blank email to leave-6694-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
Stunning research results are provided from across the pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college education. For the full details, see: http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/ -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. The website also carries articles on science which can be found here: http://newsthump.com/category/science/ Of particular relevant to critical thinking activities, see the last article on chiropracters. P.P.S. For those you haven't had their morning coffee or provigil hit, I am told that Newsthump is something like The Onion but for people of the British persuasion. If you are not of the British persuasion, do not be surprised if you don't get the "attitude" behind the articles. ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6693 or send a blank email to leave-6693-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
