RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he said that he had been 
investigating paranormal events for many years. He said it was a long interest 
of his and he always worked with undergraduate students so as to not harm the 
career of graduate students. Surely you would not keep testing hypotheses if 
you didn't think they were likely or possibly true.

Also, just like his precognition paper is probably not true his theory of 
sexual orientation is not true (something he alluded to when he gave his talk). 
But of course it is the nature of the scientific process that others can 
replicate (or fail to replicate) your findings. Now if we could just get 
journals to accept replications studies and null results!

Marie


Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D.
Associate Professor l Department of Psychology
Kaufman 168 l Dickinson College
Phone 717.245.1562 l Fax 717.245.1971
http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html



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From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca] 
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Hi

Part of the problem with Bem's advice to tell a story (i.e., make up a 
story?) when writing papers is that one can never be sure what is fact and 
what is just for the sake of the story.  Here, for example, the tell a story 
model makes me skeptical that Bem was as unsympathetic to paranormal phenomena 
as claimed in the article.  After all, isn't the story better if he was really 
a skeptic and then was forced to change his mind, rather than that he set out 
to demonstrate something that he already believed?

Take care
Jim


James M. Clark
Professor of Psychology
204-786-9757
204-774-4134 Fax
j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca

 Jeffry Ricker, PhD drjeffryric...@gmail.com 06-Jun-12 7:20 pm 
 
Paranormal Circumstances: One Influential Scientist's Quixotic Mission to Prove 
ESP Exists From his research to his personal life, Daryl Bem's never been one 
to follow the crowd.
by Yudhijit Bhattacharjee
From the March 2012 issue; published online May 14, 2012

...Even in the context of a career of irreverence, there was little to suggest 
that Bem would end up defending the possibility of extrasensory perception, or 
ESP, which most mainstream scientists consider unworthy of serious inquiry. 
Through most of his career, he was as dubious about telepathy (mind reading) or 
precognition (seeing the future) as any of his colleagues. Then data changed 
his mind 

FULL TEXT AT: 
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar/09-paranormal-circumstances-scientist-mission-esp
 


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MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: 
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread MiguelRoig


We may not need traditional journals to 'publish' replications, 
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/335/6076/1558 . However, u nless, the topic 
is hot or controversial (like Bem's parapsychological work), who is going to 
take the time to replicate all this work, especially if it is going to be 
'dumped' in these types of depositories? And fo r purposes of promotion and 
tenure, or even hiring,  what value will an attempt at  replication have? 

  

Miguel  




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Subject: RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem 

When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he said that he had been 
investigating paranormal events for many years. He said it was a long interest 
of his and he always worked with undergraduate students so as to not harm the 
career of graduate students. Surely you would not keep testing hypotheses if 
you didn't think they were likely or possibly true. 

Also, just like his precognition paper is probably not true his theory of 
sexual orientation is not true (something he alluded to when he gave his talk). 
But of course it is the nature of the scientific process that others can 
replicate (or fail to replicate) your findings. Now if we could just get 
journals to accept replications studies and null results! 

Marie 


Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. 
Associate Professor l Department of Psychology 
Kaufman 168 l Dickinson College 
Phone 717.245.1562 l Fax 717.245.1971 
http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html 



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From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:13 PM 
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Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem 

Hi 

Part of the problem with Bem's advice to tell a story (i.e., make up a 
story?) when writing papers is that one can never be sure what is fact and 
what is just for the sake of the story.  Here, for example, the tell a story 
model makes me skeptical that Bem was as unsympathetic to paranormal phenomena 
as claimed in the article.  After all, isn't the story better if he was really 
a skeptic and then was forced to change his mind, rather than that he set out 
to demonstrate something that he already believed? 

Take care 
Jim 


James M. Clark 
Professor of Psychology 
204-786-9757 
204-774-4134 Fax 
j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca 

 Jeffry Ricker, PhD drjeffryric...@gmail.com 06-Jun-12 7:20 pm 
  
Paranormal Circumstances: One Influential Scientist's Quixotic Mission to Prove 
ESP Exists From his research to his personal life, Daryl Bem's never been one 
to follow the crowd. 
by Yudhijit Bhattacharjee 
From the March 2012 issue; published online May 14, 2012 

...Even in the context of a career of irreverence, there was little to suggest 
that Bem would end up defending the possibility of extrasensory perception, or 
ESP, which most mainstream scientists consider unworthy of serious inquiry. 
Through most of his career, he was as dubious about telepathy (mind reading) or 
precognition (seeing the future) as any of his colleagues. Then data changed 
his mind 

FULL TEXT AT: 
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar/09-paranormal-circumstances-scientist-mission-esp
 


-- 
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Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. 
SCC: Professor of Psychology 
MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: 
http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ 
-
 
Scottsdale Community College 
9000 E. Chaparral Road 
Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 
Office: SB-123 
Phone: (480) 423-6213 
Fax: (480) 423-6298 




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RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He was 
beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall) 
even back then.  He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of 
paranormal phenomena in his courses.  So he has certainly been open to the 
existence of psi for many decades.  The article's implication that data 
changed his mind following many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as 
exceedingly dubious.

..Scott



From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [helw...@dickinson.edu]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 2:18 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he said that he had been 
investigating paranormal events for many years. He said it was a long interest 
of his and he always worked with undergraduate students so as to not harm the 
career of graduate students. Surely you would not keep testing hypotheses if 
you didn't think they were likely or possibly true.

Also, just like his precognition paper is probably not true his theory of 
sexual orientation is not true (something he alluded to when he gave his talk). 
But of course it is the nature of the scientific process that others can 
replicate (or fail to replicate) your findings. Now if we could just get 
journals to accept replications studies and null results!

Marie


Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D.
Associate Professor l Department of Psychology
Kaufman 168 l Dickinson College
Phone 717.245.1562 l Fax 717.245.1971
http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html



-Original Message-
From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:13 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

Hi

Part of the problem with Bem's advice to tell a story (i.e., make up a 
story?) when writing papers is that one can never be sure what is fact and 
what is just for the sake of the story.  Here, for example, the tell a story 
model makes me skeptical that Bem was as unsympathetic to paranormal phenomena 
as claimed in the article.  After all, isn't the story better if he was really 
a skeptic and then was forced to change his mind, rather than that he set out 
to demonstrate something that he already believed?

Take care
Jim


James M. Clark
Professor of Psychology
204-786-9757
204-774-4134 Fax
j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca

 Jeffry Ricker, PhD drjeffryric...@gmail.com 06-Jun-12 7:20 pm
 
Paranormal Circumstances: One Influential Scientist's Quixotic Mission to Prove 
ESP Exists From his research to his personal life, Daryl Bem's never been one 
to follow the crowd.
by Yudhijit Bhattacharjee
From the March 2012 issue; published online May 14, 2012

...Even in the context of a career of irreverence, there was little to suggest 
that Bem would end up defending the possibility of extrasensory perception, or 
ESP, which most mainstream scientists consider unworthy of serious inquiry. 
Through most of his career, he was as dubious about telepathy (mind reading) or 
precognition (seeing the future) as any of his colleagues. Then data changed 
his mind

FULL TEXT AT: 
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar/09-paranormal-circumstances-scientist-mission-esp


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SCC: Professor of Psychology
MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: 
http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/
-
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Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626
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[tips] Roger Boisjoly, Thiokol engineer of Challenger fame

2012-06-09 Thread Beth Benoit
My alumni magazine (University of Massachusetts Lowell) reported that the
Thiokol engineer who tried to convince NASA that it was too cold for
Challenger to launch, died recently.  He was a graduate of UMass Lowell's
Mechanical Engineering.  Social psychology texts use the Challenger
explosion as yet another example of groupthink.  He argued, again and
again, that the low temperatures the night before the launch could prove to
be a fatal problem, but the decision was made to go ahead, with obvious
disastrous consequences.

When Reagan's commission placed the blame for the faulty O-rings on Morton
Thiokol, the company CEO said if he'd known of the potential problem, we'd
never have given clearance for the launch.

Jack McDonough, author of the article in UMass Lowell Magazine, writes:
Boisjoly's honesty and courage came at a price.
After testifying before the commission, he was shunned by company
colleagues and managers and removed from space project assignments.  He
suffered from depression and took medical leave for treatment of
post-traumatic stress disorder.
The sole gesture of support came from Sally Ride, the first woman in space.
 She gave him a hug after he testified.  'She was the only one,' he later
said.  'The only one.'...
Boisjoly resigned from Morton Thiokol soon afterward, started his own
business in forensic engineering and delivered a series of more than 300
lectures about organizational behavior, ethics and professionalism to
corporate, professional and academic audiences.
Hailed as a 'whistle blower' for his efforts to avert the Challenger
tragedy, he received a host of accolades...

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire

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RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Michael Palij
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:14:17 -0700, Scott O Lilienfeld wrote:
Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He was
beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall)
even back then.  He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of
paranormal phenomena in his courses.  So he has certainly been open to the
existence of psi for many decades.  The article's implication that data
changed his mind following many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as
exceedingly dubious.

My dissertation advisor, Marvin Levine, who did his original research on
hypothesis theory (Harry Harlow was one of his advisors) and would go on
to do research in spatial problem solving (the area of my dissertation).
He was also a somewhat unconventional person (i.e., flake) because he
had he practiced yoga and studied Buddhism before it was fashionable.
I was somewhat concerned about how these activities might influence
his view of science until we both were exposed to some research involving
PSI/telepathy.  I was extremely skeptical of the whole business but wasn't
sure what Marv's reaction was.  I asked what he thought and his response
impressed.  Paraphrasing from a potentially faulty memory, Marv said:

|We know an awful lot about energy from physics and the big problem
|here is the person either doesn't know physics or how what he's talking
|about violates what we know about physics. Regardless of the results,
|he still has to explain how his results fit into what we know is true and
|valid in physics.

Bem did not go into much detail about physics in his JPSP article but
when I looked at some of Bem's writing in the parapsychology journals,
he went into detail about the mechanisms (i.e., how the future affects the
present).  I think the real question is how does Bem's explanation and
theory are inconsistent with current physical theory.  Does anyone know
of any physicist's critique of Bem's theory or model?  If Bem relies
upon empirical results for his beliefs, shouldn't be taking into account
what the standard results are in physics?

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul Brandon
The Skeptical Inquirer (http://www.csicop.org/) has a series of articles about 
l'affaire Bem, including argument with psychologist James Alcock.  I don't 
think that any physicists were involved, though.

For what it's worth, I knew Darryl slightly when he was a graduate student (we 
had the same advisor; Harlan Lane, at the time) -- he seemed sane then.

And in classic science fiction, BEM referred to Bug Eyed Monsters.

On Jun 9, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Michael Palij wrote:

 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:14:17 -0700, Scott O Lilienfeld wrote:
 Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He was
 beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall)
 even back then.  He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of
 paranormal phenomena in his courses.  So he has certainly been open to the
 existence of psi for many decades.  The article's implication that data
 changed his mind following many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as
 exceedingly dubious.
 
 My dissertation advisor, Marvin Levine, who did his original research on
 hypothesis theory (Harry Harlow was one of his advisors) and would go on
 to do research in spatial problem solving (the area of my dissertation).
 He was also a somewhat unconventional person (i.e., flake) because he
 had he practiced yoga and studied Buddhism before it was fashionable.
 I was somewhat concerned about how these activities might influence
 his view of science until we both were exposed to some research involving
 PSI/telepathy.  I was extremely skeptical of the whole business but wasn't
 sure what Marv's reaction was.  I asked what he thought and his response
 impressed.  Paraphrasing from a potentially faulty memory, Marv said:
 
 |We know an awful lot about energy from physics and the big problem
 |here is the person either doesn't know physics or how what he's talking
 |about violates what we know about physics. Regardless of the results,
 |he still has to explain how his results fit into what we know is true and
 |valid in physics.
 
 Bem did not go into much detail about physics in his JPSP article but
 when I looked at some of Bem's writing in the parapsychology journals,
 he went into detail about the mechanisms (i.e., how the future affects the
 present).  I think the real question is how does Bem's explanation and
 theory are inconsistent with current physical theory.  Does anyone know
 of any physicist's critique of Bem's theory or model?  If Bem relies
 upon empirical results for his beliefs, shouldn't be taking into account
 what the standard results are in physics?
 
 -Mike Palij
 New York University
 m...@nyu.edu
 
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul Brandon
Addendum:

Bem's theories clearly violate classical (Newtonian) mechanics.
However, contemporary physics (quantum theory - string theory) seems to be in 
an 'anything is possible' mode, so I'm not sure that a working physicist would 
make an a priori judgement on precognition.

On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Paul Brandon wrote:

 The Skeptical Inquirer (http://www.csicop.org/) has a series of articles 
 about l'affaire Bem, including argument with psychologist James Alcock.  I 
 don't think that any physicists were involved, though.
 
 For what it's worth, I knew Darryl slightly when he was a graduate student 
 (we had the same advisor; Harlan Lane, at the time) -- he seemed sane then.
 
 And in classic science fiction, BEM referred to Bug Eyed Monsters.
 
 On Jun 9, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Michael Palij wrote:
 
 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:14:17 -0700, Scott O Lilienfeld wrote:
 Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He was
 beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall)
 even back then.  He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of
 paranormal phenomena in his courses.  So he has certainly been open to the
 existence of psi for many decades.  The article's implication that data
 changed his mind following many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as
 exceedingly dubious.
 
 My dissertation advisor, Marvin Levine, who did his original research on
 hypothesis theory (Harry Harlow was one of his advisors) and would go on
 to do research in spatial problem solving (the area of my dissertation).
 He was also a somewhat unconventional person (i.e., flake) because he
 had he practiced yoga and studied Buddhism before it was fashionable.
 I was somewhat concerned about how these activities might influence
 his view of science until we both were exposed to some research involving
 PSI/telepathy.  I was extremely skeptical of the whole business but wasn't
 sure what Marv's reaction was.  I asked what he thought and his response
 impressed.  Paraphrasing from a potentially faulty memory, Marv said:
 
 |We know an awful lot about energy from physics and the big problem
 |here is the person either doesn't know physics or how what he's talking
 |about violates what we know about physics. Regardless of the results,
 |he still has to explain how his results fit into what we know is true and
 |valid in physics.
 
 Bem did not go into much detail about physics in his JPSP article but
 when I looked at some of Bem's writing in the parapsychology journals,
 he went into detail about the mechanisms (i.e., how the future affects the
 present).  I think the real question is how does Bem's explanation and
 theory are inconsistent with current physical theory.  Does anyone know
 of any physicist's critique of Bem's theory or model?  If Bem relies
 upon empirical results for his beliefs, shouldn't be taking into account
 what the standard results are in physics?
 
 -Mike Palij
 New York University
 m...@nyu.edu
 
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
What might fit in here is something that I stumbled across yesterday in reading 
about open instruction initiatives at Carnegie Mellon and University of 
Pittsburgh. Mischel talked in an APS Observer editorial about The Toothbrush 
Problem which describes that many psychologists tend to use their own pet 
theories instead of others' much like a person always uses their own 
toothbrush. That is, you would never use another person's toothbrush, right? 
The idea is that this creates fragmentation and lack of progress in psychology 
because we spend too much time trying to create our own theory rather than 
really building on other solid work. Mischel suggests that this is somewhat due 
to the pressures of the tenure process at large research universities. 
Read it here: 
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/getArticle.cfm?id=2430

Paul

On Jun 9, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Lilienfeld, Scott O wrote:

 Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He was 
 beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall) 
 even back then.  He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of 
 paranormal phenomena in his courses.  So he has certainly been open to the 
 existence of psi for many decades.  The article's implication that data 
 changed his mind following many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as 
 exceedingly dubious.
 
 ..Scott
 
 
 
 From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [helw...@dickinson.edu]
 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 2:18 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem
 
 When Bem came to give a talk at Dickinson he said that he had been 
 investigating paranormal events for many years. He said it was a long 
 interest of his and he always worked with undergraduate students so as to not 
 harm the career of graduate students. Surely you would not keep testing 
 hypotheses if you didn't think they were likely or possibly true.
 
 Also, just like his precognition paper is probably not true his theory of 
 sexual orientation is not true (something he alluded to when he gave his 
 talk). But of course it is the nature of the scientific process that others 
 can replicate (or fail to replicate) your findings. Now if we could just get 
 journals to accept replications studies and null results!
 
 Marie
 
 
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 Kaufman 168 l Dickinson College
 Phone 717.245.1562 l Fax 717.245.1971
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 From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:13 PM
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 Hi
 
 Part of the problem with Bem's advice to tell a story (i.e., make up a 
 story?) when writing papers is that one can never be sure what is fact and 
 what is just for the sake of the story.  Here, for example, the tell a 
 story model makes me skeptical that Bem was as unsympathetic to paranormal 
 phenomena as claimed in the article.  After all, isn't the story better if he 
 was really a skeptic and then was forced to change his mind, rather than that 
 he set out to demonstrate something that he already believed?
 
 Take care
 Jim
 
 
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 Jeffry Ricker, PhD drjeffryric...@gmail.com 06-Jun-12 7:20 pm
 
 Paranormal Circumstances: One Influential Scientist's Quixotic Mission to 
 Prove ESP Exists From his research to his personal life, Daryl Bem's never 
 been one to follow the crowd.
 by Yudhijit Bhattacharjee
 From the March 2012 issue; published online May 14, 2012
 
 ...Even in the context of a career of irreverence, there was little to 
 suggest that Bem would end up defending the possibility of extrasensory 
 perception, or ESP, which most mainstream scientists consider unworthy of 
 serious inquiry. Through most of his career, he was as dubious about 
 telepathy (mind reading) or precognition (seeing the future) as any of his 
 colleagues. Then data changed his mind
 
 FULL TEXT AT: 
 http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar/09-paranormal-circumstances-scientist-mission-esp
 
 
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RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
I believe that physicist Victor Stenger of UC-Boulder has written about such 
issues.  See:



http://www.amazon.com/Unconscious-Quantum-Victor-J-Stenger/dp/1573920223



...Scott


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On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Paul Brandon 
pkbra...@hickorytech.netmailto:pkbra...@hickorytech.net wrote:
contemporary physics (quantum theory - string theory) seems to be in an 
'anything is possible' mode, so I'm not sure that a working physicist would 
make an a priori judgement on precognition.

I tried to see if an actual working physicist had written something showing 
that quantum field theory was agnostic with respect to psi phenomena. When I 
entered the following keywords quantum physics psi into Google, I hit an 
unexpected roadblock--psi is a term used in quantum mechanics:
The wavefunction which describes the state of a particle is often denoted by 
the letter Y (spelled 'psi' and pronounced 'sigh'). It is a complex function 
which is defined everywhere in space... (Felder  Felder, 2003; 
http://snipurl.com/23ve8x2).

Anyways, I recall reading critiques written by physicists showing why quantum 
field theory cannot be used to explain at least some of the specific claims 
that have been made about psi. I also wonder if there are any physicists 
prepared to claim that quantum field theory contravenes the laws of 
thermodynamics. If not, then I'm not certain that spooky action at a distance 
or other quantum phenomena are relevant.

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Lilienfeld, Scott O 
slil...@emory.edumailto:slil...@emory.edu wrote:
Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He  
spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of paranormal phenomena in his 
courses  The article's implication that data changed his mind following 
many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as exceedingly dubious.

That's why I posted the link to the article. When the JPSP article was first 
published, I read in several places that he had been studying paranormal 
phenomena for years. It sounded to me a bit like the claims made by Freud's 
followers that he had to be 'pulled kicking and screaming' to the conclusions 
that led to the development of the psychoanalytic approach.

Best,
Jeff

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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul Brandon
In the Skeptical Inquirer, among other places!

And if you search on 'quantum' and 'precognition' you will get some hits.

On Jun 9, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Lilienfeld, Scott O wrote:

 I believe that physicist Victor Stenger of UC-Boulder has written about such 
 issues.  See:
  
 http://www.amazon.com/Unconscious-Quantum-Victor-J-Stenger/dp/1573920223
  
 ...Scott
 From: Jeffry Ricker [jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu]
 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 12:56 PM
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 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Paul Brandon pkbra...@hickorytech.net wrote:
 contemporary physics (quantum theory - string theory) seems to be in an 
 'anything is possible' mode, so I'm not sure that a working physicist would 
 make an a priori judgement on precognition.
 
 I tried to see if an actual working physicist had written something showing 
 that quantum field theory was agnostic with respect to psi phenomena. When I 
 entered the following keywords quantum physics psi into Google, I hit an 
 unexpected roadblock--psi is a term used in quantum mechanics:
 The wavefunction which describes the state of a particle is often denoted by 
 the letter Y (spelled 'psi' and pronounced 'sigh'). It is a complex function 
 which is defined everywhere in space... (Felder  Felder, 2003; 
 http://snipurl.com/23ve8x2).
 
 Anyways, I recall reading critiques written by physicists showing why quantum 
 field theory cannot be used to explain at least some of the specific claims 
 that have been made about psi. I also wonder if there are any physicists 
 prepared to claim that quantum field theory contravenes the laws of 
 thermodynamics. If not, then I'm not certain that spooky action at a 
 distance or other quantum phenomena are relevant.
 
 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Lilienfeld, Scott O slil...@emory.edu wrote:
 Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He  
 spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of paranormal phenomena in his 
 courses  The article's implication that data changed his mind following 
 many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as exceedingly dubious.
 
 That's why I posted the link to the article. When the JPSP article was first 
 published, I read in several places that he had been studying paranormal 
 phenomena for years. It sounded to me a bit like the claims made by Freud's 
 followers that he had to be 'pulled kicking and screaming' to the conclusions 
 that led to the development of the psychoanalytic approach.
 
 Best,
 Jeff
 
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Re: [tips] Evolution/Brits tight upper lip

2012-06-09 Thread Christopher Green
The expression is *stiff* upper lip, cross-cultural dude, not tight. 
It is not historically British, but is a product of the Victorian era.
The phrase may have an American origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiff_upper_lip 

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On 2012-06-09, at 1:02 PM, mjchael sylvester wrote:

  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 I have searched the literature and am trying to find out if there is any 
 evolutionary  significance to the tight upper lip
 of the Brits.It could be a common behavioral trait that could be traced back 
 to the Saxon and Celtic
 civilization.As the cross-cultural dude on Tips,tracing physical and 
 behavioral traits to points of origin have well been documented,for 
 examples,the Mutiny on the Bounty descendants  in the Pacific,eye contact 
 behavior of the Bahamasand a certain ethnic group in Africa,the preponderance 
 of red hair in Scotland(except forStuart McKelvie) and the frugality of the 
 Scots.But the evoultionary origins of the tight upper lip behavior of the 
 Brits remain a mystery to me.Not even Desmond Morris,the British dude,who was 
 once the curator of the London zoo and for some reason got into Human 
 ethology with works like The Human Zoo,Naked Ape, and Manwatching,said 
 anything about this aspect of British behavior or is it behaviour.
  
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Jeffry Ricker
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paul Brandon pkbra...@hickorytech.net wrote:
 In the Skeptical Inquirer, among other places!
 And if you search on 'quantum' and 'precognition' you will get some hits.

Yes, some of these were the articles I was vaguely recalling. It's
been a long time since I've read them--my interests have changed
markedly over the years (I'm not even sure I'm the same person I was
10 years ago)--and I couldn't remember specifics.

 On Jun 9, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Lilienfeld, Scott O wrote:
 I believe that physicist Victor Stenger of UC-Boulder has written about such 
 issues

Yes, he was the physicist whose name I was trying to remember. Thanks.

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RE: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Michael Palij
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:14:17 -0700, Scott O Lilienfeld wrote:
Daryl Bem was my undergraduate advisor at Cornell from 1978 to 1982.  He was
beginning to conduct work on psi (using the ganzfeld procedure, if I recall)
even back then.  He also spoke quite favorably about the possibiilty of
paranormal phenomena in his courses.  So he has certainly been open to the
existence of psi for many decades.  The article's implication that data
changed his mind following many years of skepticsm of psi strikes me as
exceedingly dubious.

Just another comment on the above:  Bem has a website which can be
accessed at:
http://dbem.ws/

On it, Bem has a list of his publications, organized chronologically and
in other groups.  If one examines the chronological list, Bem's first
publication involving PSI don't appear until 1990; see:

http://dbem.ws/pubs.html#1990

He does have an 1989 book review of a book on parapsychology but
nothing on parapsychology or the ganzfeld experiments before that
(it appears the first ganzfeld experiment paper was published in 1994).

So, if Bem was doing PSI work circa 1978-1982, why was he in the
closet, so to speak, about his work in parapsychology?  What happened
around 1990 to make Bem go off the rails?

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

P.S. Emily Nussbaum's article on Bem's Exotic become Erotic theory
may also be relevant given that it also appears at about this time; see:
http://www.emilynussbaum.com/lingua_franca/1998/05/does_the_exotic_become_erotic.php

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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
Do we know exactly when Bem did the studies that were published in JPSP?

If he'd been doing studies for decades he could eventually have gathered enough 
type 1 errors to result in the publication we saw in JPSP.

Paul

On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Michael Palij wrote:

Just another comment on the above:  Bem has a website which can be
accessed at:
http://dbem.ws/

On it, Bem has a list of his publications, organized chronologically and
in other groups.  If one examines the chronological list, Bem's first
publication involving PSI don't appear until 1990; see:

http://dbem.ws/pubs.html#1990

He does have an 1989 book review of a book on parapsychology but
nothing on parapsychology or the ganzfeld experiments before that
(it appears the first ganzfeld experiment paper was published in 1994).

So, if Bem was doing PSI work circa 1978-1982, why was he in the
closet, so to speak, about his work in parapsychology?  What happened
around 1990 to make Bem go off the rails?


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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Christopher Green
Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little 
methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now. 

On related, but not so personal note, I went to see the mentalist who goes by 
the stage name Banachek last night. He was originally trained, as a teenager, 
by James Randi to fool psychologists at Washington U. who were conducting 
scientific investigations of psi phenomena into believing he was the real 
deal. It worked; they certified him. Then Randi and he (and one other 
plant) held a press conference to expose what they had done.

Banachek's current show, Project Alpha, is all about deconstructing 
telepathy. He demonstrates a bunch of classic telepathy and telekinesis 
phenomena, showing them to be tricks. He also does the famous 19th-century 
Spirit Cabinet, Uri Geller-style fork-bending/breaking, and a past-lives 
regression (with two audience members who say they believe in past lives). His 
ongoing commentary includes mentions of a bunch of philosophers and 
psychologists who tried to deomonstrate psi phenomena, such as Henry Sidgwick, 
Gestalt psychologist Wolfgang Metzger, Duke psychologist Karl Zener (who 
invented the psi cards with the circle, square, star, plus, wavy lines). No 
mention of William James though.

He does all of this so apparently effortlessly that some True Believers have 
claimed he is deluded about not having true psychical powers. :-) 

All in all, a very entertaining evening.

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On 2012-06-09, at 3:54 PM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote:

  
 
  
 
  
 
 Do we know exactly when Bem did the studies that were published in JPSP? 
 
 If he'd been doing studies for decades he could eventually have gathered 
 enough type 1 errors to result in the publication we saw in JPSP. 
 
 Paul
 
 On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Michael Palij wrote:
 
 Just another comment on the above:  Bem has a website which can be
 accessed at:
 http://dbem.ws/
 
 On it, Bem has a list of his publications, organized chronologically and
 in other groups.  If one examines the chronological list, Bem's first
 publication involving PSI don't appear until 1990; see:
 
 http://dbem.ws/pubs.html#1990
 
 He does have an 1989 book review of a book on parapsychology but
 nothing on parapsychology or the ganzfeld experiments before that
 (it appears the first ganzfeld experiment paper was published in 1994).
 
 So, if Bem was doing PSI work circa 1978-1982, why was he in the
 closet, so to speak, about his work in parapsychology?  What happened
 around 1990 to make Bem go off the rails?
 
 
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Jeffry Ricker
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote:
 Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little 
 methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now.

The phrase, The lady doth protest too much, methinks, usually means
that a person asserts something so fervently that others infer that
the person actually believes the opposite--in this context, that we
actually believe Bem's claims to be well-supported by the evidence he
presented. You surely can't mean that, so I'm not certain what you're
trying to communicate.

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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Beth Benoit
Speaking for Chris Green (dare I do that without seeming to attempt to
channel his thoughts?? heh, heh, just a little psi-humor), I have to
believe that he's trying to convey that this topic is being beaten to
death.  (But maybe that's just because it conveys what I'm thinking.)  My
gmail counter indicates that there have been 22 posts on this topic.
 (Sorry to add mine, but maybe I can be the epilogue that ends this thread.)

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Jeffry Ricker 
jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca
 wrote:
  Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little
 methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now.

 The phrase, The lady doth protest too much, methinks, usually means
 that a person asserts something so fervently that others infer that
 the person actually believes the opposite--in this context, that we
 actually believe Bem's claims to be well-supported by the evidence he
 presented. You surely can't mean that, so I'm not certain what you're
 trying to communicate.

 Best,
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Gerald Peterson
He does a super show. We managed to have him visit us a few years ago and I did 
his Intro, but this was before his current Project Alpha show, which sounds 
fascinating! Would be a good show for a History and Systems class? 

 
G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D
Psychology@SVSU


On Jun 9, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote:

 Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little 
 methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now. 
 
 On related, but not so personal note, I went to see the mentalist who goes 
 by the stage name Banachek last night. He was originally trained, as a 
 teenager, by James Randi to fool psychologists at Washington U. who were 
 conducting scientific investigations of psi phenomena into believing he was 
 the real deal. It worked; they certified him. Then Randi and he (and one 
 other plant) held a press conference to expose what they had done.
 
 Banachek's current show, Project Alpha, is all about deconstructing 
 telepathy. He demonstrates a bunch of classic telepathy and telekinesis 
 phenomena, showing them to be tricks. He also does the famous 19th-century 
 Spirit Cabinet, Uri Geller-style fork-bending/breaking, and a past-lives 
 regression (with two audience members who say they believe in past lives). 
 His ongoing commentary includes mentions of a bunch of philosophers and 
 psychologists who tried to deomonstrate psi phenomena, such as Henry 
 Sidgwick, Gestalt psychologist Wolfgang Metzger, Duke psychologist Karl Zener 
 (who invented the psi cards with the circle, square, star, plus, wavy lines). 
 No mention of William James though.
 
 He does all of this so apparently effortlessly that some True Believers have 
 claimed he is deluded about not having true psychical powers. :-) 
 
 All in all, a very entertaining evening.
 
 Chris
 ---
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 Department of Psychology
 York University
 Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
 Canada
 
 chri...@yorku.ca
 http://www.yorku.ca/christo/
 ==
 
 
 
 On 2012-06-09, at 3:54 PM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Do we know exactly when Bem did the studies that were published in JPSP? 
 
 If he'd been doing studies for decades he could eventually have gathered 
 enough type 1 errors to result in the publication we saw in JPSP. 
 
 Paul
 
 On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Michael Palij wrote:
 
 Just another comment on the above:  Bem has a website which can be
 accessed at:
 http://dbem.ws/
 
 On it, Bem has a list of his publications, organized chronologically and
 in other groups.  If one examines the chronological list, Bem's first
 publication involving PSI don't appear until 1990; see:
 
 http://dbem.ws/pubs.html#1990
 
 He does have an 1989 book review of a book on parapsychology but
 nothing on parapsychology or the ganzfeld experiments before that
 (it appears the first ganzfeld experiment paper was published in 1994).
 
 So, if Bem was doing PSI work circa 1978-1982, why was he in the
 closet, so to speak, about his work in parapsychology?  What happened
 around 1990 to make Bem go off the rails?
 
 
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[tips] COGNITION: Scientific knowledge suppresses but does not supplant earlier intuitions

2012-06-09 Thread Jeffry Ricker, PhD
Hi all,

A very interesting paper to be published in Cognition:

Shtulman, A.,  Valcarcel, J. (in press). Scientific knowledge suppresses but 
does not supplant earlier intuitions. Cognition. doi: 
10.1016/j.cognition.2012.04.005

ABSTRACT
When students learn scientific theories that conflict with their earlier, naïve 
theories, what happens to the earlier theories? Are they overwritten or merely 
suppressed? We investigated this question by devising and implementing a novel 
speeded-reasoning task. Adults with many years of science education verified 
two types of statements as quickly as possible: statements whose truth value 
was the same across both naïve and scientific theories of a particular 
phenomenon (e.g., ‘‘The moon revolves around the Earth’’) and statements 
involving the same conceptual relations but whose truth value differed across 
those theories (e.g., ‘‘The Earth revolves around the sun’’). Participants 
verified the latter significantly more slowly and less accurately than the 
former across 10 domains of knowledge (astronomy, evolution, fractions, 
genetics, germs, matter, mechanics, physiology, thermodynamics, and waves), 
suggesting that naïve theories survive the acquisition of a mutually 
incompatible scientific theory, coexisting with that theory for many years to 
follow.

LINK: http://faculty.oxy.edu/shtulman/documents/2012b.pdf

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RE: [tips] Stats software in grad school..

2012-06-09 Thread Wuensch, Karl L
  SAS and JMP, at no cost to ECU.  Minitab, cost not known to me.  
SPSS, at a cost that is making us reconsider making it available.  No longer 
can students get a free copy for home use – but it is not all that expensive 
for them to purchase.

Cheers,
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Actually, and for the reasons you state, we are reconsidering SPSS at this time.



Miguel



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Hi, All --

A little unscientific poll for you.

We consider our program to be a grad-school-prep program, and have been doing 
pretty heavy instruction in SPSS, thinking that when the students get to grad 
school that's the package they're most likely to encounter.

That was certainly my experience a few years ago, but I'm wondering if we're 
thinking right, today.  Should we move to a different stats package, or is SPSS 
still pretty common.

Since IBM bought it it's gone through some changes and seemed headed much more 
toward business applications, but this last year they seemed to realize that 
schools were a large part of their clientele, and have made pricing a little 
more reasonable (although still hideously expensive).  Here the departments 
that want that package buy it (IT decided to cut its budget by pushing things 
off onto departments), and so I want to do right by my students, but have to 
think thrifty.

So, the poll: for those of you who work in departments that have grad programs, 
what stats software packages are available to your students?

Thanks!

m

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Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
College of Arts  Sciences
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Re: [tips] The Psi-chology of Darryl Bem

2012-06-09 Thread Christopher Green
It connotes a general defensiveness about the topic being discussed. Do I think 
that (especially experimental) psychologists are (still) defensive about anyone 
even asking questions about telepathy under the guise of psychological 
research? You bet your sweet bippy (for those who are old enough to remember 
Laugh In).

Bem did some research. I have no reason to believe he faked anything. He got a 
bunch of marginally significant effects, often having to resort to one-tailed 
tests. They failed to be replicated, and a more reasonable Bayesian analysis by 
Wagenmakers showed the alleged effects were not big enough to be worth talking 
about anyway. 

Next?

Chris
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Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo

On 2012-06-09, at 4:52 PM, Jeffry Ricker jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu 
wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote:
 Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little 
 methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now.
 
 The phrase, The lady doth protest too much, methinks, usually means
 that a person asserts something so fervently that others infer that
 the person actually believes the opposite--in this context, that we
 actually believe Bem's claims to be well-supported by the evidence he
 presented. You surely can't mean that, so I'm not certain what you're
 trying to communicate.
 
 Best,
 Jeff
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[tips] Banachek

2012-06-09 Thread Christopher Green
Banachek's Project Alpha would be a good show for a History  systems and class 
if the course covered the long and interesting battle over whether psychical 
research would or would not be included in the new psychology. Most such 
courses and textbooks ignore (one is tempted to say suppress) this episode.

Chris
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Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

chri...@yorku.ca
http://www.yorku.ca/christo

On 2012-06-09, at 5:47 PM, Gerald Peterson peter...@svsu.edu wrote:

 He does a super show. We managed to have him visit us a few years ago and I 
 did his Intro, but this was before his current Project Alpha show, which 
 sounds fascinating! Would be a good show for a History and Systems class? 
 
 
 G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D
 Psychology@SVSU
 
 
 On Jun 9, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote:
 
 Y''know, guys, the BemBash-alooza is getting a little 
 methinks-thou-doth-protest-too-much-ish now. 
 
 On related, but not so personal note, I went to see the mentalist who goes 
 by the stage name Banachek last night. He was originally trained, as a 
 teenager, by James Randi to fool psychologists at Washington U. who were 
 conducting scientific investigations of psi phenomena into believing he 
 was the real deal. It worked; they certified him. Then Randi and he (and 
 one other plant) held a press conference to expose what they had done.
 
 Banachek's current show, Project Alpha, is all about deconstructing 
 telepathy. He demonstrates a bunch of classic telepathy and telekinesis 
 phenomena, showing them to be tricks. He also does the famous 19th-century 
 Spirit Cabinet, Uri Geller-style fork-bending/breaking, and a past-lives 
 regression (with two audience members who say they believe in past lives). 
 His ongoing commentary includes mentions of a bunch of philosophers and 
 psychologists who tried to deomonstrate psi phenomena, such as Henry 
 Sidgwick, Gestalt psychologist Wolfgang Metzger, Duke psychologist Karl 
 Zener (who invented the psi cards with the circle, square, star, plus, wavy 
 lines). No mention of William James though.
 
 He does all of this so apparently effortlessly that some True Believers have 
 claimed he is deluded about not having true psychical powers. :-) 
 
 All in all, a very entertaining evening.
 
 Chris
 ---
 Christopher D. Green
 Department of Psychology
 York University
 Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
 Canada
 
 chri...@yorku.ca
 http://www.yorku.ca/christo/
 ==
 
 
 
 On 2012-06-09, at 3:54 PM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Do we know exactly when Bem did the studies that were published in JPSP? 
 
 If he'd been doing studies for decades he could eventually have gathered 
 enough type 1 errors to result in the publication we saw in JPSP. 
 
 Paul
 
 On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Michael Palij wrote:
 
 Just another comment on the above:  Bem has a website which can be
 accessed at:
 http://dbem.ws/
 
 On it, Bem has a list of his publications, organized chronologically and
 in other groups.  If one examines the chronological list, Bem's first
 publication involving PSI don't appear until 1990; see:
 
 http://dbem.ws/pubs.html#1990
 
 He does have an 1989 book review of a book on parapsychology but
 nothing on parapsychology or the ganzfeld experiments before that
 (it appears the first ganzfeld experiment paper was published in 1994).
 
 So, if Bem was doing PSI work circa 1978-1982, why was he in the
 closet, so to speak, about his work in parapsychology?  What happened
 around 1990 to make Bem go off the rails?
 
 
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