Re:[tips] Famous people who have taken a (credible) personality test

2011-10-15 Thread Allen Esterson
Mike Palij drew attention to the analysis of Hitler by Henry Murray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_of_the_Personality_of_Adolph_Hitler

I recall from perusing the analysis some years ago that it was Freudian 
based. This is confirmed from this part of the report:

American psychiatry was in the middle of its period of infatuation with 
Freud at this time (1943), as can be seen from pp. 8-10. Freud's 
"Counteractive Pattern" is explained by the hypothesis that "as a boy 
Hitler was severely shocked... by witnessing sexual intercourse between 
his parents".
http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/WhatWeHave/SpecialCollections/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section1.pdf

This notion, widely held beyond psychoanalytic circles in those days, 
was thought to be based on solid evidence that Freud had acquired from 
his clinical cases. In fact it comes entirely from the Wolf Man case 
history, specifically Freud's ludicrous analytic interpretation of the 
patient's dream of some wolves (actually dogs, as the Wolf Man later 
revealed -- Freud made them wolves so he could bring in folklore in the 
analysis) sitting in a tree. Using interpretations that have to be read 
to appreciate their full absurdity (see my *Seductive Mirage*, pp. 
68-69), Freud arrived at the conclusion that the dream was a disguised 
unconscious memory of the infant Wolf Man witnessing his parents 
engaging in sexual intercourse. Such was Freud's reputation that this 
absurdity became received 'knowledge' well beyond the world of 
psychoanalysis.

That said, there are plenty of sensible ideas scattered in Murray's 
report.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
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 From:  Mike Palij
Subject:re: Famous people who have taken a (credible) personality 
test
Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:22:00 -0400 
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:01:29 -0700, Michael Britt wrote:
>I'm putting together an idea for a research study but there's one 
piece that
>I'm not sure how to obtain: does anyone know of a well known person 
who has
>taken a personality test (perhaps the MMPI) and the results of the 
test are
>obtainable?  The person could be dead or alive.  Could be a writer, 
politician,

>actor, etc.

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but after World War II a number 
of
prominent Nazis were tested psychologically to determine what sort of
psychopathology they suffered from.  Back in March 2009, the APA
Monitor had a short article on this which can be read here:
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/03/nazi.aspx

At the end of the article is mention of the book "The Quest for the Nazi
Personality" by Zillmer et al.  Portions of which can be read at
books.google.com and is still available on Amazon; see:
http://www.amazon.com/Quest-Nazi-Personality-Psychological-Investigation/dp/0805818987

Henry Murray was also asked to prepare a psychological analysis of
Adolf ("Adolph") Hitler and one can use the Wikipedia entry on it to
go to the original report and related materials (yadda-yadda); see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_of_the_Personality_of_Adolph_Hitler

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu



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Re: [tips] Famous people who have taken a (credible) personality test

2011-10-14 Thread Jim Clark
Hi

I've used MMPI profiles for Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson in lectures ... 
elevated psychopathic deviant scores, but also other scales.  I'm not sure 
where I got the profiles from.  

An MMPI profile for Dahmer is shown in

Nichols (2006) J of Personality Assessment, 86, 242-262

Take care
Jim


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>>> Michael Britt  14-Oct-11 8:01 AM >>>
I'm putting together an idea for a research study but there's one piece that 
I'm not sure how to obtain: does anyone know of a well known person who has 
taken a personality test (perhaps the MMPI) and the results of the test are 
obtainable?  The person could be dead or alive.  Could be a writer, politician, 
actor, etc.

Appreciate the help,

Michael
  
Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.
mich...@thepsychfiles.com 
http://www.ThePsychFiles.com 
Twitter: mbritt






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re: [tips] Famous people who have taken a (credible) personality test

2011-10-14 Thread Mike Palij
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:01:29 -0700, Michael Britt wrote:
>I'm putting together an idea for a research study but there's one piece that 
>I'm not sure how to obtain: does anyone know of a well known person who has 
>taken a personality test (perhaps the MMPI) and the results of the test are 
>obtainable?  The person could be dead or alive.  Could be a writer, 
>politician, 
>actor, etc.

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but after World War II a number of
prominent Nazis were tested psychologically to determine what sort of
psychopathology they suffered from.  Back in March 2009, the APA
Monitor had a short article on this which can be read here:
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/03/nazi.aspx

At the end of the article is mention of the book "The Quest for the Nazi
Personality" by Zillmer et al.  Portions of which can be read at 
books.google.com and is still available on Amazon; see:
http://www.amazon.com/Quest-Nazi-Personality-Psychological-Investigation/dp/0805818987

Henry Murray was also asked to prepare a psychological analysis of 
Adolf ("Adolph") Hitler and one can use the Wikipedia entry on it to
go to the original report and related materials (yadda-yadda); see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_of_the_Personality_of_Adolph_Hitler

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu







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Re: [tips] Famous people who have taken a (credible) personality test

2011-10-14 Thread Brandon, Paul K
I've often suspected that the MMPI would be just as effective with a dead 
subject, or even a salmon.

On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Michael Britt wrote:

> I'm putting together an idea for a research study but there's one piece that 
> I'm not sure how to obtain: does anyone know of a well known person who has 
> taken a personality test (perhaps the MMPI) and the results of the test are 
> obtainable?  The person could be dead or alive.  Could be a writer, 
> politician, actor, etc.
> 
> Appreciate the help,
> 
> Michael
> 
> Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.
> mich...@thepsychfiles.com
> http://www.ThePsychFiles.com
> Twitter: mbritt
> 
> 
> 
> 
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