Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread fr...@franksheldon.com
I believe the recommendation is for all of us to get the flu shots.

There will be at least two:

One or two shots separated by three weeks for H1N1,

Then another for the regular flu.

This is what I'v read, but this may not be the final recommendation

F



RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Pall
With regard to Flu shots, Swine Flu shots, and Pneumonia shots, I
personally believe in taking all 3. The people or persons on the list
that have pointed to these shots as the cause of TM is totally
unsubstantiated. There is no link as of now between these shots and TM.
We all may have some guess as to the cause of our individual occurrence
but no one really knows for sure. I welcome a dialogue with the list as
to the cause of the occurance of TM. Who among you really know for sure
what caused the condition?
Lastly the taking of the shots is a personal decision. Personally I
never had a Flu shot prior to coming down with TM 12 years ago.and I
have had one for each of the 12 years since...never with a bad reaction.
Your decision is your own!

Just my 2 cents!

Rob in New Jersey

-Original Message-
From: fr...@franksheldon.com [mailto:fr...@franksheldon.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:15 AM
To: laura.beau...@gmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

I believe the recommendation is for all of us to get the flu shots.

There will be at least two:

One or two shots separated by three weeks for H1N1,

Then another for the regular flu.

This is what I'v read, but this may not be the final recommendation

F



RE: [TMIC] Digital Removal

2009-09-02 Thread Patricia Cooley
SIGN ME UP.  I WANT TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST MEMBERS.  I LIKE THE NAME.  IT IS
VERY APPROPRIATE.  I GUESS IT PAYS TO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR WITH TM AND I AM
GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE HAS ONE.

PATTI - WISCONSIN

-Original Message-
From: fr...@franksheldon.com [mailto:fr...@franksheldon.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:50 AM
To: Grace M.; Laurie Zissimos
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Digital Removal


  *Guys, I was just so happy to see that others have to use the digi-stim
  method.  It gets real lonely out here.  We gotta start a club!  ;-)*

You are never alone.

Let's call it the TMIC- BM

We'd all be Bowel members or BM.

A long time ago. Some person on the playground called me a piece of sh*t, an
Ass H*le.  I retorted, At least I have a function, a purpose- You're just a
swollen Hemorrhoid !!

F




RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Patricia Cooley
BOY BUT THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE THE FLUE SHOT IS GOING TO BE
DIFFICULT.  I HAVE ALWLAYS HAD THE FLU SHOT FOR THE PAST 10 OR 12 YEARS, BUT
I DIDN'T THIS LAST YEAR.  I TALKED TO MY NEURO AND HE JUST SAID HE HAS NEVER
HAD A FLU SHOT AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T, SO I SKIPPED IT LAST YEAR WITH NO
PROBLEM.  I DO TAKE 2 VIT. D TWICE A DAY, PLUS GET VIT D IN MY VITAMIN PILL
AND THE CALCIUM PILLS I TAKE.  I WILL BE SEENING MY NEURO NEXT WEEK AND WILL
TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT, BUT I GUESS THE FINAL DECISION WILL BE UP TO BE.  I
ALSO DON'T THINK THE FLU SHOT CAUSED MY TM.  FROM WHAT I HAVE READ PEOPLE
WHO HAVE HAD SHINGLES COULD HAVE GOTTEN TM AS A RESULT.  I DID HAVE A BAD
CASE OF SHINGLES BACK IN 1992 AND THE PAIN WAS WORSE THAN HAVING MY TWO
DAUGHTERS.  IT TOOK ME ALMOST A YEAR TO COMPLETELY RECOVER.  DECISIONS -
DECISIONS.

PATTI - WISCONSIN

-Original Message-
From: fr...@franksheldon.com [mailto:fr...@franksheldon.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:15 AM
To: laura.beau...@gmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

I believe the recommendation is for all of us to get the flu shots.

There will be at least two:

One or two shots separated by three weeks for H1N1,

Then another for the regular flu.

This is what I'v read, but this may not be the final recommendation

F




Re: [TMIC] Digital Removal

2009-09-02 Thread Grace M.
*I'm joining too, Pattie.  Do you think that Frank would agree to be our
President?*
**
*Gracie.A BM'er since 2005!*


Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread ROSEOFRENO
 
I am totally convinced it was the preservative (Thimerosol) in  the
vaccine that caused my TMand my neuro  concurs.
It's a very difficult thing to actually prove since there are  so many
things that can cause TM.
I remember the day I got the shotthe nurse was extolling  the virtues
of that vaccine...telling me how it was going to prevent me  from getting
ALL of the strains of flu viruses out there .
After I got the shot she handed me a copy of the  paperwork
I had signed..when I got home I read it and one of the  side effects
listed was Transverse Myelitis.  That day I didn't know  what TM was so
didn't think much of it until I was hit, paralyzed and  diagnosed.
Wish I'd read the paperwork FIRST but we tend to believe  whatever
our health care providers tell us.  
 
My suggestion to anyone considering getting the swine flu  vaccine or the
seasonal flu vaccine is this:  insist on a preservative-free vaccine.
   ~ Lynn
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/1/2009 7:46:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jan...@centurytel.net writes:

Lyn,
Are you saying that your flu shot  gave you TM?Have they proven that?
Janice

- Original Message - 
From:  _roseofr...@aol.com_ (mailto:roseofr...@aol.com)  
To: _cakal...@embarqmail.com_ (mailto:cakal...@embarqmail.com)  ; 
_tmic-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:40  AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu  vaccine


I'm with Laura and Candy.
I wound up paralyzed from the flu shot I
received 12 years ago so I won't be getting
the swine flu vaccine either...!
 
By the way, I haven't had the flu or a cold for 12  years.
I take supplements and really keep up my  levels
of Vitamin D3that stuff is a gold mine and  it's
not expensive.
The reason people get the flu in the winter is  not
because of the cold weatherit's because they  don't
get enough sunshinethat's what it takes for  our
bodies to make vitamin D3.  
   Hugs,  Lynn

 









RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Tracey L. Black
Has anyone talked with Dr. Kerr to see how he feels about the Flu
Vaccine and the Swine Flu Vaccine? I am just curious to see if he would
tell everyone to get it or if he would tell everyone with TM to stay
away from it... 

I really don't want to have my daughter, Ashlee, get either vaccine b/c
of her having TM. I don't want my other children to get the shots either
b/c I don't want to chance another child with TM.

 

Tracey L. Black

Certified Insurance Service Representative

Hockley  O'Donnell Insurance Agency

Phone- 717-334-6741, x 29

Fax-717-334-3414

My hours:  9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.

 

 

Thank you for providing information to us. Please be aware that no
coverage is bound and no change to your insurance program is confirmed
until verified by a licensed agent during regular business hours. If you
do not hear from us within 1 business day, please re-contact us in case
your information has not been retained

 

From: roseofr...@aol.com [mailto:roseofr...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:21 PM
To: jan...@centurytel.net; cakal...@embarqmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

 

I am totally convinced it was the preservative (Thimerosol) in the

vaccine that caused my TMand my neuro concurs.

It's a very difficult thing to actually prove since there are so many

things that can cause TM.

I remember the day I got the shotthe nurse was extolling the virtues

of that vaccine...telling me how it was going to prevent me from getting

ALL of the strains of flu viruses out there .

After I got the shot she handed me a copy of the paperwork

I had signed..when I got home I read it and one of the side effects

listed was Transverse Myelitis.  That day I didn't know what TM was so

didn't think much of it until I was hit, paralyzed and diagnosed.

Wish I'd read the paperwork FIRST but we tend to believe whatever

our health care providers tell us.  

 

My suggestion to anyone considering getting the swine flu vaccine or the

seasonal flu vaccine is this:  insist on a preservative-free vaccine.

   ~ Lynn

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/1/2009 7:46:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jan...@centurytel.net writes:

Lyn,

Are you saying that your flu shot gave you TM?Have they
proven that?

Janice

- Original Message - 

From: roseofr...@aol.com 

To: cakal...@embarqmail.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:40 AM

Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

 

I'm with Laura and Candy.

I wound up paralyzed from the flu shot I

received 12 years ago so I won't be getting

the swine flu vaccine either...!

 

By the way, I haven't had the flu or a cold for 12
years.

I take supplements and really keep up my levels

of Vitamin D3that stuff is a gold mine and it's

not expensive.

The reason people get the flu in the winter is not

because of the cold weatherit's because they don't

get enough sunshinethat's what it takes for our

bodies to make vitamin D3.  

   Hugs,  Lynn

 





 

 





Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Jan Hargrove
I totally agree with LynMy TM was a result of after-effects of 
pneumonia, 
but when I drove my hubby thru the Drive-BY Shots offered free from our 
medical 
center they made two stipulations...one was allergies to eggs and the 
other 
was if you'd had GBS.  I couldn't take shots due to allergies anyway, but asked 
my doc if TM would fit the GBS reason not to take the shot.  His response was 
Definitely!
 
My 2¢   janh

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, roseofr...@aol.com roseofr...@aol.com wrote:





I am totally convinced it was the preservative (Thimerosol) in the
vaccine that caused my TMand my neuro concurs.
It's a very difficult thing to actually prove since there are so many
things that can cause TM.
I remember the day I got the shotthe nurse was extolling the virtues
of that vaccine...telling me how it was going to prevent me from getting
ALL of the strains of flu viruses out there .
After I got the shot she handed me a copy of the paperwork
I had signed..when I got home I read it and one of the side effects
listed was Transverse Myelitis.  That day I didn't know what TM was so
didn't think much of it until I was hit, paralyzed and diagnosed.
Wish I'd read the paperwork FIRST but we tend to believe whatever
our health care providers tell us.  
 
My suggestion to anyone considering getting the swine flu vaccine or the
seasonal flu vaccine is this:  insist on a preservative-free vaccine.
   ~ Lynn
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/1/2009 7:46:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
jan...@centurytel.net writes:

Lyn,
Are you saying that your flu shot gave you TM?    Have they proven that?
Janice

- Original Message - 
From: roseofr...@aol.com 
To: cakal...@embarqmail.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine


I'm with Laura and Candy.
I wound up paralyzed from the flu shot I
received 12 years ago so I won't be getting
the swine flu vaccine either...!
 
By the way, I haven't had the flu or a cold for 12 years.
I take supplements and really keep up my levels
of Vitamin D3that stuff is a gold mine and it's
not expensive.
The reason people get the flu in the winter is not
because of the cold weatherit's because they don't
get enough sunshinethat's what it takes for our
bodies to make vitamin D3.  
   Hugs,  Lynn





 





RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Jan Hargrove
Funny, but I had shingles after my paralysis, and being numb, there was no 
pain!!
Isn't this a weird world with so many differences,still we all have TM..
janh

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Patricia Cooley patticoo...@wi.rr.com wrote:





BOY BUT THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE THE FLUE SHOT IS GOING TO BE
DIFFICULT.  I HAVE ALWLAYS HAD THE FLU SHOT FOR THE PAST 10 OR 12 YEARS, BUT
I DIDN'T THIS LAST YEAR.  I TALKED TO MY NEURO AND HE JUST SAID HE HAS NEVER
HAD A FLU SHOT AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T, SO I SKIPPED IT LAST YEAR WITH NO
PROBLEM.  I DO TAKE 2 VIT. D TWICE A DAY, PLUS GET VIT D IN MY VITAMIN PILL
AND THE CALCIUM PILLS I TAKE.  I WILL BE SEENING MY NEURO NEXT WEEK AND WILL
TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT, BUT I GUESS THE FINAL DECISION WILL BE UP TO BE.  I
ALSO DON'T THINK THE FLU SHOT CAUSED MY TM.  FROM WHAT I HAVE READ PEOPLE
WHO HAVE HAD SHINGLES COULD HAVE GOTTEN TM AS A RESULT.  I DID HAVE A BAD
CASE OF SHINGLES BACK IN 1992 AND THE PAIN WAS WORSE THAN HAVING MY TWO
DAUGHTERS.  IT TOOK ME ALMOST A YEAR TO COMPLETELY RECOVER.  DECISIONS -
DECISIONS.

PATTI - WISCONSIN







Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread kevin weilacher
That's kind of my question also, Traceyhas this ever been addressed to Dr. 
Kerr to get any feedback from him..? My neuro told me to go ahead and get the 
flu shot last year, which I did with no ill effects. I have talked with others 
with TM though and they have said that their neuro's were adamant to NOT get 
the flu shot. Now with this swine flu thing going around I'm really questioning 
what we should do.
I have a new neuro now and I'll be asking him to see what he says, but why all 
the conflicting answers..?


This is so ridiculous in this day and age to not be able to get a simple, 
straight answer to this question.

Kevin Weilacher



From: Tracey L. Black tracey.bl...@hnoins.com
To: roseofr...@aol.com; jan...@centurytel.net; cakal...@embarqmail.com; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 1:25:38 PM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

 
Has
anyone talked with Dr. Kerr to see how he feels about the Flu Vaccine and the
Swine Flu Vaccine? I am just curious to see if he would tell everyone to get it
or if he would tell everyone with TM to stay away from it……. 
I really
don’t want to have my daughter, Ashlee, get either vaccine b/c of her
having TM. I don’t want my other children to get the shots either b/c I
don’t want to chance another child with TM.
 
Tracey
L. Black
Certified
Insurance Service Representative
Hockley
 O'Donnell Insurance Agency
Phone-
717-334-6741, x 29
Fax-717-334-3414
My
hours:  9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.


  

Re: [TMIC] Digital Removal

2009-09-02 Thread fr...@franksheldon.com

 *I'm joining too, Pattie.  Do you think that Frank would agree to be our
 President?*

Greetings,

I w2ould be honored to be President of the BMers.

Thank you

pH



Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread fr...@franksheldon.com
TM is a chronic debilitating process, because of this we should all get Flu 
shots and pneumonia shots.

Believe me, I'm your President, I would never lie to anyone...

pH



RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Lori Biehler
Hi all,

I saw Dr. Kerr for years and I think I recall at the second symposium, one
of the doctors stating that he would never take the flu shots, nor would
have his children get them. Dr. Kerr never advised me to have the flu shot,
nor did he advise against it. I don't think it is something he can discuss
because of where he works and how he gets paid.

I did have a pneumonia shot this year because of my heart surgery, yet was
advised by my neuro here and my internist to inform them immediately of any
neurological symptoms. 

I will not have the flu shot, and especially not the swine flu shot. I have
been advised against them both by my current team of doctors and I do
believe they have my interests at heart, not any drug company.

Once again, every person is different and what my doctors advise me, is not
necessarily true for anyone else. Everyone should ask their doctors and then
make their own decision for their health. I do believe that there are some
that get TM from vaccines, it is one of the risk factors stated. Luck of the
draw, 1 in every 100, 000 is pretty good odds, though it sucks if you are
the one!

Lori

 

From: Tracey L. Black [mailto:tracey.bl...@hnoins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:26 PM
To: roseofr...@aol.com; jan...@centurytel.net; cakal...@embarqmail.com;
tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

 

Has anyone talked with Dr. Kerr to see how he feels about the Flu Vaccine
and the Swine Flu Vaccine? I am just curious to see if he would tell
everyone to get it or if he would tell everyone with TM to stay away from
it... 

I really don't want to have my daughter, Ashlee, get either vaccine b/c of
her having TM. I don't want my other children to get the shots either b/c I
don't want to chance another child with TM.

 

Tracey L. Black

Certified Insurance Service Representative

Hockley  O'Donnell Insurance Agency

Phone- 717-334-6741, x 29

Fax-717-334-3414

My hours:  9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.

 

 

Thank you for providing information to us. Please be aware that no coverage
is bound and no change to your insurance program is confirmed until verified
by a licensed agent during regular business hours. If you do not hear from
us within 1 business day, please re-contact us in case your information has
not been retained

 

From: roseofr...@aol.com [mailto:roseofr...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:21 PM
To: jan...@centurytel.net; cakal...@embarqmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

 

I am totally convinced it was the preservative (Thimerosol) in the

vaccine that caused my TMand my neuro concurs.

It's a very difficult thing to actually prove since there are so many

things that can cause TM.

I remember the day I got the shotthe nurse was extolling the virtues

of that vaccine...telling me how it was going to prevent me from getting

ALL of the strains of flu viruses out there .

After I got the shot she handed me a copy of the paperwork

I had signed..when I got home I read it and one of the side effects

listed was Transverse Myelitis.  That day I didn't know what TM was so

didn't think much of it until I was hit, paralyzed and diagnosed.

Wish I'd read the paperwork FIRST but we tend to believe whatever

our health care providers tell us.  

 

My suggestion to anyone considering getting the swine flu vaccine or the

seasonal flu vaccine is this:  insist on a preservative-free vaccine.

   ~ Lynn

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/1/2009 7:46:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jan...@centurytel.net writes:

Lyn,

Are you saying that your flu shot gave you TM?Have they proven that?

Janice

- Original Message - 

From: roseofr...@aol.com 

To: cakal...@embarqmail.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:40 AM

Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

 

I'm with Laura and Candy.

I wound up paralyzed from the flu shot I

received 12 years ago so I won't be getting

the swine flu vaccine either...!

 

By the way, I haven't had the flu or a cold for 12 years.

I take supplements and really keep up my levels

of Vitamin D3that stuff is a gold mine and it's

not expensive.

The reason people get the flu in the winter is not

because of the cold weatherit's because they don't

get enough sunshinethat's what it takes for our

bodies to make vitamin D3.  

   Hugs,  Lynn

 


  _  


 

 

  _  



Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Linda Egli






My neurologist is very adamant that I never receive vaccines of any kind.  He 
will not approve the pneumonia shot. My last tetanus shot was 11 years ago  he 
does not want me taking a booster of that shot either.  He thinks my last flu 
shot caused my TM.  My PCP follows whatever guidelines the neurologist says.
Linda E.
 

 

[TMIC] BMer's Club and Flu Shots

2009-09-02 Thread pjv1234
I qualify as a member of the TMer BMer club. I hope this is an honor-system 
membership with no proof requirements.  

My Neuro and his family get annual flu shots.  He advised me to get the shot -  
yet I haven't done so since TM and likely won't.  I didn't have a shot the year 
I got TM, but every doctor that I saw from ER to my TM diagnosis asked me if I 
had had the flu shot and all those questions have made me nervous.  

Patti - Michigan

 



Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Louise Croyden
I was hit by the episode of TM in October 2005 and my Neurologist has not 
allowed me to have the regular flu shot since.  My TM was labelled ideopathic 
so, not knowing what the cause was, I believe they are erring on the side of 
caution in case the reaction of my immune system to the vaccine may cause 
another episode.

I recently called my Neurologist to ask if I should take the H1N1 flu vaccine 
when it comes out.  The secretary called back to say the doctor said no because 
it is too new and the possible side-effects are unknown.  She doesn't want to 
take the chance of me ending up back in hospital.

I'm in Canada where they are going to add an adjuvant to the vaccine.  
According to what I've read, adjuvants are chemical boosters used to elicit an 
early, high and long-lasting immune response.  It appears they do not feel the 
non-adjuvant vaccine has been working well enough in tests.  I can see why my 
Neuro doesn't want to take the chance of upsetting my immune system too much.

I gather a rush to get a vaccine out happened in the 90s because of a flu 
epidemic that started in the U.S. military.  They were hurrying to get people 
vaccinated and there many became ill (died?) and some were paralyzed by the 
vaccine.  The man in charge lost his job over this debacle.  Sorry I don't have 
the exact figures, names, etc.  I heard the man in question being interviewed a 
few months ago but didn't document the facts.

Anyway, it comes down to the fact we each have to do what is comfortable for 
ourselves but I think everyone should look into the situation very carefully 
before deciding.

Regards.

Louise

- Original Message - 
  From: Regina Rummel 
  To: tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:30 AM
  Subject: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine


  Good morning everybody,
  There was a lot of discussion in our group regarding vaccines a couple of 
years ago.  It had been suggested that among other things, TM could be caused 
by the flu, a virus, whatever.  Some of us were convinced of that and refused 
to take the vaccine.  I haven't had one in four years.  Others felt having 
checked with their doctors that we should have it and continued to get it.
  Question:  What's going to happen now with the flu vaccine?
  Will some of us still be ambivalent?
  R


RE: [TMIC] Digital Removal

2009-09-02 Thread Patricia Cooley
I GUESS FRANK WAS NOMINATED AND I SECOND IT.  LET'S CONGRATULATE FRANK ON
BEING VOTED OUR FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE BMers.

PATTI - WISCONSIN

-Original Message-
From: fr...@franksheldon.com [mailto:fr...@franksheldon.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:54 PM
To: Grace M.; Patricia Cooley
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Digital Removal


 *I'm joining too, Pattie.  Do you think that Frank would agree to be our
 President?*

Greetings,

I w2ould be honored to be President of the BMers.

Thank you

pH



RE: [TMIC] BMer's Club and Flu Shots

2009-09-02 Thread Patricia Cooley
PATTI LET ME BE THE FIRST TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR NEW CLUB.  I HOPE MORE CONSIDER 
JOINING.  IT IS SO WONDERFUL THAT AS MEMBERS WE CAN FEEL FREE TO DISCUSS THE 
MANY PROBLEMS, EVEN VERY PERSONAL ONES, WE ALL HAVE WITHOUT BEING EMBARRASSED.

AT THIS TIME, I DO NOT THINK I WILL BE GETTING ANY OF THE FLU SHOTS THAT WILL 
BE OFFERED.  I THINK THEY ARE RUSHING TOO FAST TO GET SOMETHING OUT TO THE 
PUBLIC, AND IT MAY HAVE VERY SERIOUS RESULTS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.  I WILL PRAY 
IT DOESN'T.  AS I SAID EARLIER, I WILL BE SEEING MY NEURO NEXT WEEK AND WILL 
DISCUSS IT, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALREADY KNOW WHAT HE WILL ADVISE.

PATTI - WISCONSIN

-Original Message-
From: pjv1...@chartermi.net [mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:36 PM
To: tmic
Subject: [TMIC] BMer's Club and Flu Shots

I qualify as a member of the TMer BMer club. I hope this is an honor-system 
membership with no proof requirements.  

My Neuro and his family get annual flu shots.  He advised me to get the shot -  
yet I haven't done so since TM and likely won't.  I didn't have a shot the year 
I got TM, but every doctor that I saw from ER to my TM diagnosis asked me if I 
had had the flu shot and all those questions have made me nervous.  

Patti - Michigan

 




RE: [TMIC] BMer's Club and Flu Shots

2009-09-02 Thread jrushton
 I totally agree with you, Patti.  Jeanne, RN/TM/BM'er
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Patricia Cooley
Date: 9/2/2009 9:11:58 PM
To: pjv1...@chartermi.net;  'tmic'
Subject: RE: [TMIC] BMer's Club and Flu Shots
 
PATTI LET ME BE THE FIRST TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR NEW CLUB.  I HOPE MORE
CONSIDER JOINING.  IT IS SO WONDERFUL THAT AS MEMBERS WE CAN FEEL FREE TO
DISCUSS THE MANY PROBLEMS, EVEN VERY PERSONAL ONES, WE ALL HAVE WITHOUT
BEING EMBARRASSED.
 
AT THIS TIME, I DO NOT THINK I WILL BE GETTING ANY OF THE FLU SHOTS THAT
WILL BE OFFERED.  I THINK THEY ARE RUSHING TOO FAST TO GET SOMETHING OUT TO
THE PUBLIC, AND IT MAY HAVE VERY SERIOUS RESULTS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.  I
WILL PRAY IT DOESN'T.  AS I SAID EARLIER, I WILL BE SEEING MY NEURO NEXT
WEEK AND WILL DISCUSS IT, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALREADY KNOW WHAT HE WILL ADVISE.
 
PATTI - WISCONSIN
 
-Original Message-
From: pjv1...@chartermi.net [mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:36 PM
To: tmic
Subject: [TMIC] BMer's Club and Flu Shots
 
I qualify as a member of the TMer BMer club. I hope this is an honor-system
membership with no proof requirements.
 
My Neuro and his family get annual flu shots.  He advised me to get the shot
-  yet I haven't done so since TM and likely won't.  I didn't have a shot
the year I got TM, but every doctor that I saw from ER to my TM diagnosis
asked me if I had had the flu shot and all those questions have made me
nervous.
 
Patti - Michigan
 
 
 
 
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Re: [TMIC] Digital Removal

2009-09-02 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
Or at the least of all:  the  BS'ers
 
With Respect and Love,
Jude
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2009 10:04:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
patticoo...@wi.rr.com writes:

I  GUESS FRANK WAS NOMINATED AND I SECOND IT.  LET'S CONGRATULATE  FRANK ON
BEING VOTED OUR FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE BMers.

PATTI -  WISCONSIN

-Original Message-
From:  fr...@franksheldon.com [mailto:fr...@franksheldon.com] 
Sent:  Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:54 PM
To: Grace M.; Patricia  Cooley
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Digital  Removal


 *I'm joining too, Pattie.  Do you think  that Frank would agree to be our
  President?*

Greetings,

I w2ould be honored to be President  of the BMers.

Thank  you

pH







Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
Dear All...,
 
My doctor has recommended the same approach  regarding vaccines of any 
kind.  When I was so sick, there was even  question about antibiotics and they 
were given with only the greatest of  care.
 
Love you,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2009 7:00:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
le...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 



 

 
My  neurologist is very adamant that I never receive vaccines of any  kind. 
 He will not approve the pneumonia shot. My last tetanus  shot was 11 years 
ago  he does not want me taking a booster of that  shot either.  He thinks 
my last flu shot caused my TM.   My PCP follows whatever guidelines the 
neurologist says.
Linda E.

 










Re: [TMIC] Digital Removal

2009-09-02 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
Wouldn't you like to be a pooper  too?
Smile, damn it!
Love,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2009 3:54:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fr...@franksheldon.com writes:


 *I'm joining too, Pattie.  Do you think that  Frank would agree to be our
  President?*

Greetings,

I w2ould be honored to be President  of the BMers.

Thank  you

pH







Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
I'm confused.  Some persons say take the  vaccines and/or flu shots etc,  
and some say do not take the same  shots.
 
Why the conflicting answers, sometimes from the  same people?  Is this a 
manner of trying to keep everybody  happy?  Or, confused?
 
Does anyone know the true answer?  I'm on  the confused end of things.
 
Love to all,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2009 3:50:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fr...@franksheldon.com writes:


 With regard to Flu shots, Swine Flu shots, and  Pneumonia shots, I
 personally believe in taking all 3.  

Robert,

You are so right !!

And thank you for  mentioning the Pneumonia shot.

I know because of blood work and  spinal tap fluid tests that my TM was 
caused by an autoimmune reaction  following a mild case of Coxackie  (?sp) 
viral  infection.

F







Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine

2009-09-02 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
You find yourself in a confusing situation with  regard to your children 
with and without TM and whether or not they ought  to get the flu shot, and 
which ones?
 
I, personally, with only my not well researched  opinion, would not have my 
children not get the flu shot, only because I  would be afraid that they 
would get the flu...let alone anything  else.
 
Love to you all,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 9/2/2009 1:26:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tracey.bl...@hnoins.com writes:

 
Has anyone talked with Dr.  Kerr to see how he feels about the Flu Vaccine 
and the Swine Flu  Vaccine? I am just curious to see if he would tell 
everyone to get it or  if he would tell everyone with TM to stay away from 
it…….  
 
I really don’t want to have  my daughter, Ashlee, get either vaccine b/c of 
her having TM. I don’t  want my other children to get the shots either b/c 
I don’t want to  chance another child with TM. 
 
Tracey L.  Black 
Certified  Insurance Service Representative 
Hockley   O'Donnell Insurance Agency 
Phone-  717-334-6741, x 29 
Fax-717-334-3414 
My  hours:  9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. 
Thank you  for providing information to us. Please be aware that no 
coverage is  bound and no change to your insurance program is confirmed until  
verified by a licensed agent during regular business hours. If you do  not hear 
from us within 1 business day, please re-contact us in case  your 
information has not been retained
 
 
From:  roseofr...@aol.com [mailto:roseofr...@aol.com] 
Sent:  Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:21 PM
To:  jan...@centurytel.net; cakal...@embarqmail.com;  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Swine flu  vaccine

 
 
I am totally  convinced it was the preservative (Thimerosol) in the
 
vaccine that  caused my TMand my neuro concurs.
 
It's a very  difficult thing to actually prove since there are so many
 
things that can  cause TM.
 
I remember the  day I got the shotthe nurse was extolling the virtues
 
of that  vaccine...telling me how it was going to prevent me from  getting
 
ALL of the  strains of flu viruses out there .
 
After I got the  shot she handed me a copy of the paperwork
 
I had  signed..when I got home I read it and one of the side  effects
 
listed was  Transverse Myelitis.  That day I didn't know what TM was  so
 
didn't think  much of it until I was hit, paralyzed and diagnosed.
 
Wish I'd read  the paperwork FIRST but we tend to believe whatever
 
our health care  providers tell us.  
 

 
My suggestion to  anyone considering getting the swine flu vaccine or the
 
seasonal flu  vaccine is this:  insist on a preservative-free  vaccine.
 
~  Lynn
 

 

 

 

 

 
In  a message dated 9/1/2009 7:46:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jan...@centurytel.net writes:

 
Lyn,
 
Are you saying that your  flu shot gave you TM?Have they proven  that?
 
Janice

 
-  Original Message - 
 
From:  _roseofr...@aol.com_ (mailto:roseofr...@aol.com)   
 
To:  _cakal...@embarqmail.com_ (mailto:cakal...@embarqmail.com)  ;  
_tmic-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com)   
 
Sent:  Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:40 AM
 
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] Swine flu vaccine
 

 
I'm with  Laura and Candy.
 
I wound up  paralyzed from the flu shot I
 
received 12  years ago so I won't be getting
 
the swine  flu vaccine either...!
 

 
By the way,  I haven't had the flu or a cold for 12 years.
 
I take  supplements and really keep up my levels
 
of Vitamin  D3that stuff is a gold mine and it's
 
not  expensive.
 
The reason  people get the flu in the winter is not
 
because of  the cold weatherit's because they don't
 
get enough  sunshinethat's what it takes for our
 
bodies to  make vitamin D3.  
 
Hugs,  Lynn
 
  

 




 

 
  

 








Re: [TMIC] Digital

2009-09-02 Thread Heyjude48458
 
 
Or, how about the TMBM  ASS.?
 
LOL,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 9/1/2009 1:05:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cakal...@embarqmail.com writes:

Frank - I LOVE that come back!  I'll have to remember  it!

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly!  
Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . 
And never regret anything  that made you smile.


Prayers and thoughts for you and  yours,

Candy K.

- Original Message -
From:  fr...@franksheldon.com
To: Grace M. grace...@gmail.com,  Laurie Zissimos lziss...@aol.com
Cc:  tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:50:16 AM GMT  -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Digital  Removal


  *Guys, I was just so happy to see that  others have to use the digi-stim
  method.  It gets real  lonely out here.  We gotta start a club!  ;-)*

You are  never alone.

Let's call it the TMIC- BM

We'd all be  Bowel members or BM.

A long time ago. Some person on the  playground called me a piece of sh*t, 
an Ass H*le.  I retorted, At  least I have a function, a purpose- You're 
just a swollen Hemorrhoid  !!

F