RE: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana
I did smoke it and know of others that stated that was the only way to get the pain relief, no clue why. I sure do wish the pharmaceutical companies would research what chemicals in the plant help us and the best way to deliver those chemicals. It is not the THC that relieves pain, it just helps you not to care you are in pain. It may help in combination with another chemical but I don’t know anyone that took marinol that had the pain relief that those of us that smoked had. It took the neurological pain away, all of it and it was wonderful. Marinol is really great for those on chemo that need to eat, if they can keep down a pill. It works really well increasing ones appetite. Lori From: Barbara Alma [mailto:balmat...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:29 AM To: lbieh...@earthlink.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana What I was saying is that the MJ helps me sleep, but doesn't touch my pain. At least not at the amount I use it or in the way I do. Then, I am assuming that the ones who get relief are doing so by smoking. Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA -Original Message- From: Lori Biehler lbieh...@earthlink.net To: 'Barbara Alma' balmat...@aol.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:43 am Subject: RE: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana I am not sure what you are asking. I did not have a problem sleeping so I am not the best one to answer. I can tell you that I do have a problem sleeping now and it has helped, but my sleep problem is not pain at this time. Lori From: Barbara Alma [ mailto:balmat...@aol.com? mailto:balmat...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:25 PM To: mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana Seems that those who smoke it get a lot of pain relief. Do you get pain relief with the sleepy effects? Maybe I just finally am just so relaxed that am able to sleep, and it generally takes about 45 minutes or more for the effect to take place. Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA -Original Message- From: Janice Nichols mailto:jan...@centurytel.net jan...@centurytel.net To: Grace M. mailto:grace...@gmail.com grace...@gmail.com; mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net lbieh...@earthlink.net; mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:02 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana Where do you get it? Janice From: mailto:grace...@gmail.com Grace M. Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:46 PM To: mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net lbieh...@earthlink.net ; mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana Hello Lori, I don't need much either---just a few hits if it is of good quality. Grace On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Lori Biehler mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net lbieh...@earthlink.net wrote: In a pill form it is called marinol. That is basically synthetic THC and I was prescribed it in ’99 and it didn’t really take the pain away. It did make me sleep and hungry. I smoked it instead and that took the pain away, helped the spasticity in my muscles, and left me feeling pretty good. I did not need to smoke a lot to get relief. From: Janice Nichols [mailto: mailto:jan...@centurytel.net jan...@centurytel.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:26 PM To: Robert Pall; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana If you got it from the medical profession, would it be in pill form? Have you ever tried it or know anyone who has?How does it help and for how long? Janice From: mailto:rp...@neillsupply.com Robert Pall Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:45 AM To: mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com TMIC Subject: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana New Jersey is on the verge of becoming the next state (probably this week) to legalize medical marijuana. Question…..have any of you tried it and if so has it provided you with relief? I know how I would answer but perhaps other members will shed a different light on the subject….as for me I am delighted! Now I just have to get my Dr. to prescribe it! Rob in New Jersey
[TMIC] Gabapentin ??
I started a week ago on Gabapentin 300 mg 1X daily but I take approx. 1/2 in the am mixed with my yogart and the other half in applesauce at night. The Gabapentin does help with some of the nerve pain - when I'm awake meaning that it does make me sleep much more - 4 to 12 hours at a time. I was just getting to the point of only sleeping 8 to 10 hours at night with a 2 to 4 hour nap. I also find that I'm dreaming as I'm waking up - something that I haven't done in the last 4 years since TM hit. My neuro told me to take 1 capsule the first week, 2 the next week, then 3 from there on. I called today and told the nurse that because it was making me so tired that I was going to stay on the 1 capsule per day until my body adjusts because I was sleeping way too much and not getting anything else done. I know this will happen because each time I've added a med that has a sleepiness, fatigue effect, within a month or so my body adjusts and I go back to my normal sleep pattern. I believe that I have seen others here thattake Gabapenin and wonder if they have had the same effects? Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K.
Re: [TMIC] Gabapentin ??
I used to have really strange dreams when I was on Gabapentin. I was on it for 2 years then my neur switched me to Lyrica for which there is no generic. Two years later, my neuro has now switched me to Topomax to try to help control the weight gain from the Gabapentin and Lyrica. Good Luck. Laurie from Baltimore. -Original Message- From: CANDISKALLEY cakal...@embarqmail.com To: TMIC-LIST TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2010 1:01 pm Subject: [TMIC] Gabapentin ?? I started a week ago on Gabapentin 300 mg 1X daily but I take approx. 1/2 in the am mixed with my yogart and the other half in applesauce at night. The Gabapentin does help with some of the nerve pain - when I'm awake meaning that it does make me sleep much more - 4 to 12 hours at a time. I was just getting to the point of only sleeping 8 to 10 hours at night with a 2 to 4 hour nap. I also find that I'm dreaming as I'm waking up - something that I haven't done in the last 4 years since TM hit. My neuro told me to take 1 capsule the first week, 2 the next week, then 3 from there on. I called today and told the nurse that because it was making me so tired that I was going to stay on the 1 capsule per day until my body adjusts because I was sleeping way too much and not getting anything else done. I know this will happen because each time I've added a med that has a sleepiness, fatigue effect, within a month or so my body adjusts and I go back to my normal sleep pattern. I believe that I have seen others here thattake Gabapenin and wonder if they have had the same effects? Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K.
Re: [TMIC] Gabapentin ??
I took 2400-3200 mgs per day for several years and did fine with it. After a while, my body adjusted and sleepiness wasn't a problem. Grace
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Re: [TMIC] Gabapentin ??
Yes, I open the capsule - sometimes it takes awhile but I finally get it. I've found that if I twist the capsule it is easier BUT I have to have the capsule over whatever I'm putting it in. I have to cut or open all of my meds because I have an ileostomy ( I had to have all my colon removed due to ulcerated colitist over 35 years ago) and due to that pills and capsules don't desolve but go through me within an hour or so therefore doing nothing. I did read in the phamplet that openin and mixing with soft foods was acceptable but I also remember my mother doing that for my step-father after his stroke because he couldn't swallow anything except soft foods. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K. - Original Message - From: rn11...@yahoo.com To: CANDIS KALLEY cakal...@embarqmail.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:11:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [TMIC] Gabapentin ?? Hi, Am I understanding that you are opening a capsule and splitting the contents in half? Cheryl in Easthampton,Mass. --- On Thu, 1/14/10, CANDIS KALLEY cakal...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: CANDIS KALLEY cakal...@embarqmail.com Subject: [TMIC] Gabapentin ?? To: TMIC-LIST TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 1:01 PM I started a week ago on Gabapentin 300 mg 1X daily but I take approx. 1/2 in the am mixed with my yogart and the other half in applesauce at night. The Gabapentin does help with some of the nerve pain - when I'm awake meaning that it does make me sleep much more - 4 to 12 hours at a time. I was just getting to the point of only sleeping 8 to 10 hours at night with a 2 to 4 hour nap. I also find that I'm dreaming as I'm waking up - something that I haven't done in the last 4 years since TM hit. My neuro told me to take 1 capsule the first week, 2 the next week, then 3 from there on. I called today and told the nurse that because it was making me so tired that I was going to stay on the 1 capsule per day until my body adjusts because I was sleeping way too much and not getting anything else done. I know this will happen because each time I've added a med that has a sleepiness, fatigue effect, within a month or so my body adjusts and I go back to my normal sleep pattern. I believe that I have seen others here thattake Gabapenin and wonder if they have had the same effects? Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably . And never regret anything that made you smile. Prayers and thoughts for you and yours, Candy K.
[TMIC] how many of you had a pathogen cause TM?
More specifically, have any of you been diagnosed with an aspirgillus fungus infection/attack in your history?
Re: [TMIC] how many of you had a pathogen cause TM?
No, not that I know of. Can you be even more specific? Janice From: randy rankin Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:30 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Cc: TMIC-LIST Subject: [TMIC] how many of you had a pathogen cause TM? More specifically, have any of you been diagnosed with an aspirgillus fungus infection/attack in your history?
Re: [TMIC] Gabapentin ??
I have only been on it for 3 years, but have never had a problem with it. Janice From: Grace M. Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:24 PM To: CANDIS KALLEY Cc: TMIC-LIST Subject: Re: [TMIC] Gabapentin ?? I took 2400-3200 mgs per day for several years and did fine with it. After a while, my body adjusted and sleepiness wasn't a problem. Grace
Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana
Thanks Lori, that makes a lot of sense to me now. Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA -Original Message- From: Lori Biehler lbieh...@earthlink.net To: 'Barbara Alma' balmat...@aol.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:48 am Subject: RE: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana I did smoke it and know of others that stated that was the only way to get the pain relief, no clue why. I sure do wish the pharmaceutical companies would research what chemicals in the plant help us and the best way to deliver those chemicals. It is not the THC that relieves pain, it just helps you not to care you are in pain. It may help in combination with another chemical but I don’t know anyone that took marinol that had the pain relief that those of us that smoked had. It took the neurological pain away, all of it and it was wonderful. Marinol is really great for those on chemo that need to eat, if they can keep down a pill. It works really well increasing ones appetite. Lori From: Barbara Alma [mailto:balmat...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:29 AM To: lbieh...@earthlink.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana What I was saying is that the MJ helps me sleep, but doesn't touch my pain. At least not at the amount I use it or in the way I do. Then, I am assuming that the ones who get relief are doing so by smoking. Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA -Original Message- From: Lori Biehler lbieh...@earthlink.net To: 'Barbara Alma' balmat...@aol.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 5:43 am Subject: RE: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana I am not sure what you are asking. I did not have a problem sleeping so I am not the best one to answer. I can tell you that I do have a problem sleeping now and it has helped, but my sleep problem is not pain at this time. Lori From: Barbara Alma [mailto:balmat...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:25 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana Seems that those who smoke it get a lot of pain relief. Do you get pain relief with the sleepy effects? Maybe I just finally am just so relaxed that am able to sleep, and it generally takes about 45 minutes or more for the effect to take place. Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA -Original Message- From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net To: Grace M. grace...@gmail.com; lbieh...@earthlink.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 12, 2010 8:02 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana Where do you get it? Janice From: Grace M. Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:46 PM To: lbieh...@earthlink.net ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana Hello Lori, I don't need much either---just a few hits if it is of good quality. Grace On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Lori Biehler lbieh...@earthlink.net wrote: In a pill form it is called marinol. That is basically synthetic THC and I was prescribed it in ’99 and it didn’t really take the pain away. It did make me sleep and hungry. I smoked it instead and that took the pain away, helped the spasticity in my muscles, and left me feeling pretty good. I did not need to smoke a lot to get relief. From: Janice Nichols [mailto:jan...@centurytel.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:26 PM To: Robert Pall; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana If you got it from the medical profession, would it be in pill form? Have you ever tried it or know anyone who has?How does it help and for how long? Janice From: Robert Pall Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:45 AM To: TMIC Subject: [TMIC] Medical Marijuana New Jersey is on the verge of becoming the next state (probably this week) to legalize medical marijuana. Question…..have any of you tried it and if so has it provided you with relief? I know how I would answer but perhaps other members will shed a different light on the subject….as for me I am delighted! Now I just have to get my Dr. to prescribe it! Rob in New Jersey
