[TMIC] Mike
My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
OMG..I'm so sorry to hear that. You have my sympathies. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 8:20 AM, bgunny7...@aol.com wrote: My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny, You're in my thoughts and prayers!! jan From: bgunny7...@aol.com bgunny7...@aol.com To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 9:20:01 AM Subject: [TMIC] Mike My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny, Oh my gosh - I am so very sorry to hear of your loss. Please know that you are in my thoughts. Linda - Original Message - From: bgunny7...@aol.commailto:bgunny7...@aol.com To: Tmic-list@eskimo.commailto:Tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: [TMIC] Mike My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny, I'm so very sorry to hear this news. Prayers and good thoughts coming your way. Grace
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny, You and your Brother are in my thoughts and prayers. Kevin bgunny7...@aol.com wrote: My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny, I am so sorry.I can't believe that it was just the other day that you told me that the treatment was what was hitting him so hard... My thoughts and prayers are with you... Gunny, if you need anything...you know where I am and how to get in touch of me. From: bgunny7...@aol.com bgunny7...@aol.com To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 10:20:01 AM Subject: [TMIC] Mike My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
I am so sorry Gunny. 58 is still on the young side, to me. I will be praying for you and your family during this time. Barbara H. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, bgunny7...@aol.com wrote: My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
Re: [TMIC] Mike
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:20 AM, bgunny7...@aol.com wrote: My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58. -- Gunny, I am so very sorry. There are no words that can truly comfort you but please know I will pray for you during this difficult time. Blessings Prayers Trudy
Re: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you?
Hi all, I am switching to amitryteline (sp?) from neurontin. I stopped the neurontin and started all at once (doctor's rec) and went nuts...this is when one can experience suicidal thoughts (really). I decided to wane the dose of neurontin (was on 1800 and now am taking half that for the week) and perhaps even a nother smaller dose next week. Amitryptilene is an older antidepressant that treats pain, especially in the neck I was told. I feel a bit like a yo-yo and sorry for me staff! In any case the foggy feeling is lessening already. I also hate TM--makes me long for my previous normal physicala and mental state. I wake up every morning and wait for the pain to ensue. But I can function which I am very grateful for. Jill From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net; TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 5:45:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? I too wish I could do Lyrica. Especially if it would leave me in less of a fog all day long. I hate TM. I really really hate this. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Todd Tarno To: TMIC Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: Fw: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? Hey Jill everyone, My doctor told me to switch neurontin to Lyrica cold-turkey, because they where in the same family. I had the worst headache for 5 days and then I was fine. So I don't recommend doing like that, but it's faster. Why I like Lyrica for me, is that I only need to take it twice a day instead of 3 times a day. When I was on neurontin in the middle of the day, I would start to feel pain and then knew I had forgotten my second dose of neurontin. The neurontin would make me a little foggy and that might have been why I would forget the second dose. I wished we all could do well on Lyrica, Todd in CC, TX --- On Sat, 4/17/10, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: From: pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net Subject: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? To: Neil McNeil n_...@hotmail.com, Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net, tmic-list@eskimo.com, we4king...@verizon.net, Jill Posner posnerj...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:54 PM Jil, That much neurontin also exhausted me, but I took fewer naps as time went on.. It never eliminated TM pain, however, it helped some. My biggest complaint about Neurontin is the time it took to work and how fast it wore off. My Neuro said that was a common complaint and suggested I try Lyrica. I researched Lyrica for a year before letting my him write a prescription. My biggest fear was his insistence that I could switch from neurontin to Lyrica overnight. I finally made the switch exactly that way - overnight - with no side effects. I didn't swell up like a toad nor did I turn into one. Lyrica works within fifteen minutes of taking the pill and lasts much longer. I took 75mg every 12 hours for a year, then upped to 75mg every 8 hours for about 9 months. I then asked for an increase to 100mg every 8 hours and have been on this dosage for over a year. I understand being afraid of Lyrica, because I was petrified of it myself. Now I have to share the benefits I received. It works for some, but not for others. Patti - Michigan Jill Posner posnerj...@yahoo.com wrote: I am new to it...am on 2400mg a day--600 mg 4 times a day. It leaves me feeling like a zombie and doesn't really eliminate the pain. Lyrica is in the same family so I didn't think it made sense to wind down and up again. And it seems to have more side effects. I don't care to be as bloated as a toad. Are there other options? Jill
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny, I can't tell you how sorry I am.The sorry word just doesn't seem strong enough.Please feel free to use us as a venting avenue until feelings get a little easier. I am sure God was ready for him, you just weren't ready to give him up. I am so sorry. Janice From: bgunny7...@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:20 AM To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Mike My younger brother Mike passed away at 12:40 AM this morning from brain cancer. He was 58.
[TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you?
Jill, How much amitryptilene are you going to take? Let us know how it works out for you. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Jill Posner To: Pieter and Heather ; Todd Tarno ; TMIC Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? Hi all, I am switching to amitryteline (sp?) from neurontin. I stopped the neurontin and started all at once (doctor's rec) and went nuts...this is when one can experience suicidal thoughts (really). I decided to wane the dose of neurontin (was on 1800 and now am taking half that for the week) and perhaps even a nother smaller dose next week. Amitryptilene is an older antidepressant that treats pain, especially in the neck I was told. I feel a bit like a yo-yo and sorry for me staff! In any case the foggy feeling is lessening already. I also hate TM--makes me long for my previous normal physicala and mental state. I wake up every morning and wait for the pain to ensue. But I can function which I am very grateful for. Jill -- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net; TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 5:45:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? I too wish I could do Lyrica. Especially if it would leave me in less of a fog all day long. I hate TM. I really really hate this. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Todd Tarno To: TMIC Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: Fw: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? Hey Jill everyone, My doctor told me to switch neurontin to Lyrica cold-turkey, because they where in the same family. I had the worst headache for 5 days and then I was fine. So I don't recommend doing like that, but it's faster. Why I like Lyrica for me, is that I only need to take it twice a day instead of 3 times a day. When I was on neurontin in the middle of the day, I would start to feel pain and then knew I had forgotten my second dose of neurontin. The neurontin would make me a little foggy and that might have been why I would forget the second dose. I wished we all could do well on Lyrica, Todd in CC, TX --- On Sat, 4/17/10, pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: From: pjv1...@chartermi.net pjv1...@chartermi.net Subject: Re: [TMIC] TMIC Neurontin--does it exhaust you? To: Neil McNeil n_...@hotmail.com, Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net, tmic-list@eskimo.com, we4king...@verizon.net, Jill Posner posnerj...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:54 PM Jil, That much neurontin also exhausted me, but I took fewer naps as time went on.. It never eliminated TM pain, however, it helped some. My biggest complaint about Neurontin is the time it took to work and how fast it wore off. My Neuro said that was a common complaint and suggested I try Lyrica. I researched Lyrica for a year before letting my him write a prescription. My biggest fear was his insistence that I could switch from neurontin to Lyrica overnight. I finally made the switch exactly that way - overnight - with no side effects. I didn't swell up like a toad nor did I turn into one. Lyrica works within fifteen minutes of taking the pill and lasts much longer. I took 75mg every 12 hours for a year, then upped to 75mg every 8 hours for about 9 months. I then asked for an increase to 100mg every 8 hours and have been on this dosage for over a year. I understand being afraid of Lyrica, because I was petrified of it myself. Now I have to share the benefits I received. It works for some, but not for others. Patti - Michigan Jill Posner posnerj...@yahoo.com wrote: I am new to it...am on 2400mg a day--600 mg 4 times a day. It leaves me feeling like a zombie and doesn't really eliminate the pain. Lyrica is in the same family so I didn't think it made sense to wind down and up again. And it seems to have more side effects. I don't care to be as bloated as a toad. Are there other options? Jill
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
I take a very small dose of Amytriptiline for my bladder. It's way overactive, so I take 4 mg. Detrol LA at night, and 25 mg of the other in the morning... They are planning on doing botox on my bladder to calm it down. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 10:34 AM, Regina Rummel wrote: Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Regina Rummel To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
I take Elavil 25 mgs each night and I take Lyrica 150mgs 3x daily. The Elavil was prescribed for me for bladder control. I also take Ditropan XL 20mgs at night. The Ditropan and the Elavil keep me dry all night. Laurie in Baltimore -Original Message- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Regina Rummel To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
This interchange is not making me feel too sanguine. I will start with a very sparing dose and see how it goes. I must also be a little depressed having just been diagnosed with TM (or something like it)so maybe it will help that issue. Jill From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 1:35:57 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Regina Rummel To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
Tried Ditropan and failed miserably with it...it works well, but boy, talk about a dry mouth!! Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 11:40 AM, Laurie Zissimos wrote: I take Elavil 25 mgs each night and I take Lyrica 150mgs 3x daily. The Elavil was prescribed for me for bladder control. I also take Ditropan XL 20mgs at night. The Ditropan and the Elavil keep me dry all night. Laurie in Baltimore -Original Message- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - *From:* Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
you have to suck on some hard candy for the dry mouth, drinking water or other liquid only makes you have to pee more -Original Message- From: Laura Beaudin laura.beau...@gmail.com To: Laurie Zissimos lziss...@aol.com Cc: pieterheat...@shaw.ca; regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:45 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Tried Ditropan and failed miserably with it...it works well, but boy, talk about a dry mouth!! Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 11:40 AM, Laurie Zissimos wrote: I take Elavil 25 mgs each night and I take Lyrica 150mgs 3x daily. The Elavil was prescribed for me for bladder control. I also take Ditropan XL 20mgs at night. The Ditropan and the Elavil keep me dry all night. Laurie in Baltimore -Original Message- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - *From:* Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
RE: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
Jill...it is very common to go thru depression with TM. It hit me one year after TM hit me and I had to go on Paxil for about six months...since then (11 years) I have not suffered from depression and or anxiety attacks! Rob in New Jersey From: Jill Posner [mailto:posnerj...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:43 PM To: Pieter and Heather; Regina Rummel; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) This interchange is not making me feel too sanguine. I will start with a very sparing dose and see how it goes. I must also be a little depressed having just been diagnosed with TM (or something like it)so maybe it will help that issue. Jill From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 1:35:57 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
OT: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
Hi Gang ! , Has anyone been keeping count of the number of different spelling of that drug, you now the one in the subject line?? I count at least half a dozen. I hate it when you can't even know the spelling of one of your meds. You need to be spending more time reading your medicine bottles. You think I'm going to bail you out by spelling that mother of a word. H*ll no !! I'm really in a bad mood, because of all my allergies being fired up by Spring time. Love you all pH
Re: OT: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
I was on Amitriptyline for one week when I was being medicated. I was switched to Nortriptyline and still take 50 mg in the morning and 100 mg at bed. I take Phenobarbital 15 mg in AM and 45 mg at bed instead of Neurontin, and Dextromethorphan twice a day, SATIVEX twice a day, and VIT D. Hope that helps F
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
I also had horrible blurred vision. I went off of it because of that, but my vision had changed so much my eye doctor couldn't believe it. And the dry mouth was miserable. Rather deal with the bladder problems than Ditropan. - Original Message - From: Laura Beaudin laura.beau...@gmail.com To: Laurie Zissimos lziss...@aol.com Cc: pieterheat...@shaw.ca; regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Tried Ditropan and failed miserably with it...it works well, but boy, talk about a dry mouth!! Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 11:40 AM, Laurie Zissimos wrote: I take Elavil 25 mgs each night and I take Lyrica 150mgs 3x daily. The Elavil was prescribed for me for bladder control. I also take Ditropan XL 20mgs at night. The Ditropan and the Elavil keep me dry all night. Laurie in Baltimore -Original Message- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - *From:* Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
RE: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
I used it too, didn't work out too well for meIt is called Amytryptaline here in Brasil. I still take gabapentin and neurotin, valium, cymbalta and miosan plus prescription sleeping pills. What a cocktail, but never had any depression or suicidal thoughts. I do see a psychologist every week though. Jeron From: cindymcle...@socal.rr.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:50:46 -0700 I also had horrible blurred vision. I went off of it because of that, but my vision had changed so much my eye doctor couldn't believe it. And the dry mouth was miserable. Rather deal with the bladder problems than Ditropan. - Original Message - From: Laura Beaudin laura.beau...@gmail.com To: Laurie Zissimos lziss...@aol.com Cc: pieterheat...@shaw.ca; regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Tried Ditropan and failed miserably with it...it works well, but boy, talk about a dry mouth!! Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 11:40 AM, Laurie Zissimos wrote: I take Elavil 25 mgs each night and I take Lyrica 150mgs 3x daily. The Elavil was prescribed for me for bladder control. I also take Ditropan XL 20mgs at night. The Ditropan and the Elavil keep me dry all night. Laurie in Baltimore -Original Message- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - *From:* Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Very very sorry for your loss, Gunny. Wishing you everything you need. Akua --
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
And they found out that it erodes memory! Tried Ditropan and failed miserably with it...it works well, but boy, talk about a dry mouth!! Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! --
Re: [TMIC] Amitriptyline
Do you personally know that Botox is useful this way? I would expect Botox to weaken bladder spasms but not make them less frequent. Alton On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Laura Beaudin wrote: botox on my bladder to calm it down
Re: [TMIC] Mike
Gunny I am so sorry. I have you on my prayer list. Jane/Splendora
Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp)
Nope, the candy didn't work either...the water makes you pee more..but as someone dealing with paralysis..that's probably a good thing. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 11:47 AM, Laurie Zissimos wrote: you have to suck on some hard candy for the dry mouth, drinking water or other liquid only makes you have to pee more -Original Message- From: Laura Beaudin laura.beau...@gmail.com To: Laurie Zissimos lziss...@aol.com Cc: pieterheat...@shaw.ca; regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:45 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Tried Ditropan and failed miserably with it...it works well, but boy, talk about a dry mouth!! Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com http://www.bananga.com/ ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org http://www.practical-homeschooling.org/ On 26/04/2010 11:40 AM, Laurie Zissimos wrote: I take Elavil 25 mgs each night and I take Lyrica 150mgs 3x daily. The Elavil was prescribed for me for bladder control. I also take Ditropan XL 20mgs at night. The Ditropan and the Elavil keep me dry all night. Laurie in Baltimore -Original Message- From: Pieter and Heather pieterheat...@shaw.ca mailto:pieterheat...@shaw.ca To: Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Regina, OMG.I didn't realize that Amytriptilene was actually Elavil. I too was put on that for a short while back in the 70's for depression. I too felt 'right out of it' or 'stoned'. I couldn't take it then and guess I will just stick with the Neurontin. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - *From:* Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net? *To:* tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com mailto:tmic-l...@eskimo.com? *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 10:34 AM *Subject:* [TMIC] Amytretaline (sp) Hi Jill, I took it years ago for depression and OMG, it was awful! The best way I can describe it is that I felt stoned. It was called Elavil then. In those days, they gave it to people in nursing homes to keep them quiet. But everyone reacts differently, so try it and let us know what happens, something good I hope. I take Neurontin but decided on my own to gradually decrease the dose, and eventually stop taking a medication that I believe bogus. So far, I see no difference in the pain and the darned TM symptoms. Good luck with the Elavil. R
Re: [TMIC] Amitriptyline
Botox is a paralytic,,will literally paralyze the bladder muscle..means I won't be able to pee without a catheter...but it's not like that's any different than now...just won't be incontinent all the time. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 7:19 PM, Alton Ryder wrote: Do you personally know that Botox is useful this way? I would expect Botox to weaken bladder spasms but not make them less frequent. Alton On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Laura Beaudin wrote: botox on my bladder to calm it down
Re: [TMIC] Amitriptyline
Laura, do you worry about the bladder stretching or would you set an alarm to get up during the nite to cath?I am assuming that you don't have enough feeling in the bladder to know when to go or to wake you up from sleep. Janice -- From: Laura Beaudin laura.beau...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:36 PM To: Alton Ryder a-ry...@comcast.net Cc: tmic list tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amitriptyline Botox is a paralytic,,will literally paralyze the bladder muscle..means I won't be able to pee without a catheter...but it's not like that's any different than now...just won't be incontinent all the time. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 7:19 PM, Alton Ryder wrote: Do you personally know that Botox is useful this way? I would expect Botox to weaken bladder spasms but not make them less frequent. Alton On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Laura Beaudin wrote: botox on my bladder to calm it down
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[TMIC] Honda Inovation
Carry your portable scooter with you Have a Blessed Day, Naomi Finally! The solution to my immobility! How long is the waiting list?? Stupid thing will probably cost two or three hundred Gary your portable scooter with you Attached Message From: David Latham da...@lathamfamily.com To: Undisclosed-Recipient da...@lathamfamily.com Subject: Honda Inovation Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:10:10 -0400 Check out this nifty gadget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIJRsAuCHQfeature=youtu.be
Re: [TMIC] Honda Inovation
2-300? I doubt it...2-3000 would be more like it. Having said that, it would be awesome for people with mobitilty problems, but I also see it as another reason for people (without issues) to not walk and loose another form of exercise. I'm always asked why I don't use a power chair...umm...cuz my arms are fine and a power chair would be another reason not to get that vital exercise I'm getting now by pushing myself around. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org Carry your portable scooter with you Have a Blessed Day, Naomi Finally! The solution to my immobility! How long is the waiting list?? Stupid thing will probably cost two or three hundred Gary your portable scooter with you Attached Message From: David Latham da...@lathamfamily.com mailto:da...@lathamfamily.com To: Undisclosed-Recipient da...@lathamfamily.com mailto:da...@lathamfamily.com Subject:Honda Inovation Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:10:10 -0400 Check out this nifty gadget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIJRsAuCHQfeature=youtu.be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIJRsAuCHQfeature=youtu.be
Re: [TMIC] Amitriptyline
I cath 5 times a day. every 4 hours during the day, and I can stretch it to 6 at night. I'm still constantly incontinent, but going more often has become a quality of life issue. My bladder constantly over-reacts no matter what I do..I'd have to do it every 2 hours to stay dry. The botox will take care of that...I hope Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org Laura, do you worry about the bladder stretching or would you set an alarm to get up during the nite to cath?I am assuming that you don't have enough feeling in the bladder to know when to go or to wake you up from sleep. Janice -- From: Laura Beaudin laura.beau...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:36 PM To: Alton Ryder a-ry...@comcast.net Cc: tmic list tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Amitriptyline Botox is a paralytic,,will literally paralyze the bladder muscle..means I won't be able to pee without a catheter...but it's not like that's any different than now...just won't be incontinent all the time. Laura You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. -James D. Miles- http://www.bananga.com ...empowering ourselves! Buying a used wheelchair? BUYER BEWARE!!! On Practical-Homeschooling: 10 Free or Inexpensive Homeschool Options http://www.practical-homeschooling.org On 26/04/2010 7:19 PM, Alton Ryder wrote: Do you personally know that Botox is useful this way? I would expect Botox to weaken bladder spasms but not make them less frequent. Alton On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Laura Beaudin wrote: botox on my bladder to calm it down
