Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
John, the sad fact is that nothing really takes it away, I have so far racked up a bit over 10 years of it. I must say though that I do believe it has decreased somewhat. Either that or I'm just used to it. I don't do meds as all they did was make me completely spaced out or zombie like and the pain was still there. Strangely enough, just the everyday little old aspro or Panadol help. Maybe because they concentrate on any other unrelated pain that then lessons the tm residuals. I have no idea why, I just know that's what happens for me. There are other external causes. The shoes you wear, your socks (always wear them inside out), the clothes you wear, particularly the type of material. I found that by paying attention to these things, I can lesson (not by a whole lot) these annoying freeze/burn feelings. Gilly - Original Message - From: john snodgrass To: James Berg ; pjv1...@chartermi.net Cc: tmic Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles was talking with the neurologist yesterday about the buzzing,vibrating feeling that sometimes go all the way into my chest but stays mainly in my legs and feetwhen its not buzzing it is burning. he called it something but i failed to write it down. I tried MJ but for me,,,it made it intensify! nothing i have taken to date has had any positive effect on that symptom. creams,muscle rubs,neuronton,baclofen, Xanax,valium,Lyrica alcohol,MJ. scratch that off my to do list. -- From: James Berg molokai...@gmail.com To: pjv1...@chartermi.net Cc: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality Jim On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Gerry, Many of us faced the same thing. Movement and feeling also brought the feeling of pins and needles. I've taken Lyrica for about three years - it helps a lot. I don't know about side effects except the cost can empty your wallet. I would have stuck with gabapentin, but it was unpredictable. Lyrica starts working witin 15 minutes. Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. The best pan reliever is laughter and the posts I read tonight relieved my pain for a while. The antidepressant, Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles. Of course, it's another drug with a lot of side effects. Pati - Michigan
Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
James when I first got TM I ordered vitamin supplements for TM that came from India. After taking them for a few months, my doctor found that it was affecting my liver. They were concerned and were going to do a liver biopsy . I stopped taking the vitamins and when they did a secon dblood test they found my liver was back to normal and I didn't need the biopsynormal so I will never take things that are made in foreign countries. Patti - Wisconsin On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, James Berg molokai...@gmail.com wrote: Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality Jim On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Gerry, Many of us faced the same thing. Movement and feeling also brought the feeling of pins and needles. I've taken Lyrica for about three years - it helps a lot. I don't know about side effects except the cost can empty your wallet. I would have stuck with gabapentin, but it was unpredictable. Lyrica starts working witin 15 minutes. Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. The best pan reliever is laughter and the posts I read tonight relieved my pain for a while. The antidepressant, Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles. Of course, it's another drug with a lot of side effects. Pati - Michigan
Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
it is good to know the pros and cons of all that we seek to do,then when we succeed or fail we will not be surprised. From: pat cooley patticoole...@gmail.com To: James Berg molokai...@gmail.com Cc: pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles James when I first got TM I ordered vitamin supplements for TM that came from India. After taking them for a few months, my doctor found that it was affecting my liver. They were concerned and were going to do a liver biopsy . I stopped taking the vitamins and when they did a secon dblood test they found my liver was back to normal and I didn't need the biopsynormal so I will never take things that are made in foreign countries. Patti - Wisconsin On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, James Berg molokai...@gmail.com wrote: Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality Jim On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Gerry, Many of us faced the same thing. Movement and feeling also brought the feeling of pins and needles. I've taken Lyrica for about three years - it helps a lot. I don't know about side effects except the cost can empty your wallet. I would have stuck with gabapentin, but it was unpredictable. Lyrica starts working witin 15 minutes. Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. The best pan reliever is laughter and the posts I read tonight relieved my pain for a while. The antidepressant, Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles. Of course, it's another drug with a lot of side effects. Pati - Michigan
[TMIC] meds made in foreign countries
Patti,, I take several meds for high BP and diabetes. One is made in India,and one in Bangladesh. Check your script labels-you might be surprised. Cheryl
RE: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
Patti; Which supplement were you taking? Pam Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:33:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles From: patticoole...@gmail.com To: molokai...@gmail.com CC: pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com James when I first got TM I ordered vitamin supplements for TM that came from India. After taking them for a few months, my doctor found that it was affecting my liver. They were concerned and were going to do a liver biopsy . I stopped taking the vitamins and when they did a secon dblood test they found my liver was back to normal and I didn't need the biopsynormal so I will never take things that are made in foreign countries. Patti - Wisconsin On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, James Berg molokai...@gmail.com wrote: Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality Jim On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Gerry, Many of us faced the same thing. Movement and feeling also brought the feeling of pins and needles. I've taken Lyrica for about three years - it helps a lot. I don't know about side effects except the cost can empty your wallet. I would have stuck with gabapentin, but it was unpredictable. Lyrica starts working witin 15 minutes. Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. The best pan reliever is laughter and the posts I read tonight relieved my pain for a while. The antidepressant, Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles. Of course, it's another drug with a lot of side effects. Pati - Michigan
Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
That's a little extreme; Vitamins are not so standardized as are prescription drugs. ProzacFluoxetineis either Fluoxetine, or it isn't; either 10 mg, or not. Not so with vitamins. In your case, the offending element was likely too much Vitamin A, which is toxic to the liver taken in large doses. The multivitamin probably had too much Vitamin A in it relative to everything else. India is one of the largest exporters of pharmaceuticals in the world. Without it millions of the world's peoples would not have access to prescription medications. A great debt is owed to them, I think, for making First-World medications available and affordable to the Third-World. Dalton From: PAMELA S subers...@msn.com Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:58:07 -0800 To: patticoole...@gmail.com, TMC Group tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:01:17 -0800 Patti; Which supplement were you taking? Pam Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:33:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles From: patticoole...@gmail.com To: molokai...@gmail.com CC: pjv1...@chartermi.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com James when I first got TM I ordered vitamin supplements for TM that came from India. After taking them for a few months, my doctor found that it was affecting my liver. They were concerned and were going to do a liver biopsy . I stopped taking the vitamins and when they did a secon dblood test they found my liver was back to normal and I didn't need the biopsynormal so I will never take things that are made in foreign countries. Patti - Wisconsin On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, James Berg molokai...@gmail.com wrote: Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality Jim On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, pjv1...@chartermi.net wrote: Gerry, Many of us faced the same thing. Movement and feeling also brought the feeling of pins and needles. I've taken Lyrica for about three years - it helps a lot. I don't know about side effects except the cost can empty your wallet. I would have stuck with gabapentin, but it was unpredictable. Lyrica starts working witin 15 minutes. Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. The best pan reliever is laughter and the posts I read tonight relieved my pain for a while. The antidepressant, Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles. Of course, it's another drug with a lot of side effects. Pati - Michigan
Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
Gilly
You are right to remide us about cothes, shoes and sock contributing to
our TM pain. I think I've posted for eight straight winters that
wearing blue jeans in cold weather puts me right to bed due the the
intense pain the cold material causes. New TMers beware! It isn't just
the heat that causes additional painful sensations. The cold weather
causes its own set of problems.
Patti - Michigan
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Gillian Clark wrote:
John, the sad fact is that nothing really takes it away, I have so
far racked up a bit over 10 years of it.
I must say though that I do believe it has decreased somewhat. Either
that or I'm just used to it.
I don't do meds as all they did was make me completely spaced out or
zombie like and the pain was still there. Strangely enough, just the
everyday little old aspro or Panadol help. Maybe because they
concentrate on any other unrelated pain that then lessons the tm
residuals. I have no idea why, I just know that's what happens for me.
There are other external causes. The shoes you wear, your socks
(always wear them inside out), the clothes you wear, particularly the
type of material. I found that by paying attention to these things, I
can lesson (not by a whole lot) these annoying freeze/burn feelings.
Gilly
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wastalking with the neurologist yesterday about the
buzzing,vibrating feelingthat sometimes go all the way into my chest
but stays mainly in my legs andfeetwhen its not buzzing it is
burning. he called it something but ifailed to write it down.
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Itried MJ but for me,,,it made it intensify!
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nothingi have taken to date has had any positive effect on that
symptom.
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creams,muscle rubs,neuronton,baclofen, Xanax ,valium,Lyrica
alcohol,MJ.
scratchthat off my to do list.
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To: pjv1...@chartermi.net
Cc: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, December 30,2011 4:05 PM
Subject: Re:[TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River
Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality
Jim
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Gerry,
Many of us faced the same thing. Movement and feeling also brought
the feeling of pins and needles.
I've taken Lyrica for about three years - it helps a lot. I don't
know about side effects except the cost can empty your wallet. I
would have stuck with gabapentin, but it was unpredictable. Lyrica
starts working witin 15 minutes. Gabapenten took an hour or two to
work.
The best pan reliever is laughter and the posts I read tonight
relieved my pain for a while.
The antidepressant, Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles.
Of course, it's another drug with a lot of side effects.
Pati - Michigan
[TMIC] TM and ambient temperature
Hello, Following our recent discussion, I think I could report one thing to you. I moved from New Zealand to Fiji in June 2011 as I got a new job here. Within three days of arrival in Fiji, the 'pins and needles' sensations across my belly disappeared and receded to mid thigh. I had had TM since Oct 2010. This may be the full extent of my recovery, though. Some people say TM can exacerbate under heat. But my GP back in New Zealand, who operates on an 'integrative medicine' paradigm, commented that if the ambient temperature is too low, the energy gets chewed up thinking about coping with the cold. Certainly his comment rings true to me. TM has accentuated my aversion to winter. I lived in Christchurch, NZ, shaking since September 2009. Cold and damp winter. Unlike North America, central heating is unheard of. The 'stiff upper lip' mentality is encouraged to endure the poor heating apparatus and appalling housing. Any thoughts on TM and ambient temperature? Ryota
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