Re: [TMIC] Drug testing

2008-03-11 Thread Natalie Boyles
Hi Gaylon,
My husband who is a computer aided designer had to have a drug test.
They DID NOT ask him if he was taking any meds. No one interviewed him
when he had the test. They took just a sample and a week later he was
told he passed. I worried he might not pass as he was on meds. He
actually had the test for a part-time job and so I doubt anyone would
have called him back if he had failed the test. Yahoo groups has a
good tm email list. I think there is more diversity of people on it;
more acceptance of different views and say, differently stated ones. I
feel more comfortable there; less importance put on who's who.
Natalie B

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Deborah Nord Capen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since I know Lori, and I know that she has a very important job that
 requires a lot of brainwork, I felt that I needed to comment on this.

 I manage a medical clinic that also does urinalysis testing for drugs.
 Companies send their potential employees in to us to be tested.  We
 interview the patient, they fill out a form on which they must disclose any
 medications they are taking.  If the test comes up positive for illicit
 drugs, they need to give us valid prescriptions for their medications to
 prove that they are taking drugs that will mess up illicit drug test
 results.

 Privacy laws do not allow us to disclose the medications to the potential
 employers.  Privacy laws also prevent the employer from asking the employee
 what medications they are taking.  We are required to send on the test
 results; however, we evaluate the results against the prescriptions brought
 in to us, and our report will state that the test was a false positive due
 to legal meds that caused it.  That should suffice for an employer, and
 nothing needs to be explained further to them.

 There are medications, such as anti-depressants, that will cause a positive
 result for cocaine use.  So, if you are being successfully treated for
 depression, should you be discriminated against if you tested positive for
 cocaine use?  I think not.

 I hope this clarifies the issue.
 Take care,
 Debbie
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 - Original Message -
 From: Lori Biehler
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:42 PM
 Subject: RE: [TMIC] Drug testing



 Well, I do work and do get tested, it is no worse than someone taking
 morphine, which shows up as an opiate, like heroine, so yes, it is legal and
 if you get discriminated against for it, they are the ones in trouble not
 you. I don't need either at this time, 10 years into this, I can deal just
 fine with no meds at all, but when I needed it, it was there and 100% legal,
 that is just how it is.

 I do believe that eating correctly for your body and exercise helps me
 enough to continue on with my life at a pace that works for me and my loved
 ones.

 I hope this helps you in some way.

 Lori


 


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] Drug testing




   With all due respect, That is nice fairytale thinking but you can almost
 bet that if you are mixed in with several applicants and all the rest do not
 test positive for drugs and you happen to light up the sky with your
 adornment of drugs in the urine test .  Most likely the high probability of
 your app. would be set aside.


   After all would they really want someone that shows positive for illegal
 drugs that are pescribed legally? Think about it.





 In a message dated 3/10/2008 1:55:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 NO, you would not fail the drug test because Marinol is synthetic THC and
 they test for THC and Marinol is a LEGAL script so they won't fail you
 because you have the script. You will show positive for THC, but you are
 supposed to have that in your urine if you take Marinol.

 Lori


 


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:16 PM
 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [TMIC] Drug testing




   I wonder if a person was taking the medication Marinol, would they fail a
 drug test while trying to apply for a job.



 


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RE: [TMIC] Drug testing

2008-03-10 Thread Lori Biehler
NO, you would not fail the drug test because Marinol is synthetic THC and
they test for THC and Marinol is a LEGAL script so they won't fail you
because you have the script. You will show positive for THC, but you are
supposed to have that in your urine if you take Marinol. 

Lori

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:16 PM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] Drug testing

 

  I wonder if a person was taking the medication Marinol, would they fail a
drug test while trying to apply for a job.





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RE: [TMIC] Drug testing

2008-03-10 Thread Lori Biehler
Well, I do work and do get tested, it is no worse than someone taking
morphine, which shows up as an opiate, like heroine, so yes, it is legal and
if you get discriminated against for it, they are the ones in trouble not
you. I don't need either at this time, 10 years into this, I can deal just
fine with no meds at all, but when I needed it, it was there and 100% legal,
that is just how it is.

I do believe that eating correctly for your body and exercise helps me
enough to continue on with my life at a pace that works for me and my loved
ones.

I hope this helps you in some way.

Lori

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Drug testing

 

  With all due respect, That is nice fairytale thinking but you can almost
bet that if you are mixed in with several applicants and all the rest do not
test positive for drugs and you happen to light up the sky with your
adornment of drugs in the urine test .  Most likely the high probability of
your app. would be set aside.

  After all would they really want someone that shows positive for illegal
drugs that are pescribed legally? Think about it.

 

In a message dated 3/10/2008 1:55:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

NO, you would not fail the drug test because Marinol is synthetic THC and
they test for THC and Marinol is a LEGAL script so they won't fail you
because you have the script. You will show positive for THC, but you are
supposed to have that in your urine if you take Marinol. 

Lori

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:16 PM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] Drug testing

 

  I wonder if a person was taking the medication Marinol, would they fail a
drug test while trying to apply for a job.

 


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Re: [TMIC] Drug testing

2008-03-10 Thread Deborah Nord Capen
Since I know Lori, and I know that she has a very important job that requires a 
lot of brainwork, I felt that I needed to comment on this.

I manage a medical clinic that also does urinalysis testing for drugs.  
Companies send their potential employees in to us to be tested.  We interview 
the patient, they fill out a form on which they must disclose any medications 
they are taking.  If the test comes up positive for illicit drugs, they need to 
give us valid prescriptions for their medications to prove that they are taking 
drugs that will mess up illicit drug test results.

Privacy laws do not allow us to disclose the medications to the potential 
employers.  Privacy laws also prevent the employer from asking the employee 
what medications they are taking.  We are required to send on the test results; 
however, we evaluate the results against the prescriptions brought in to us, 
and our report will state that the test was a false positive due to legal 
meds that caused it.  That should suffice for an employer, and nothing needs to 
be explained further to them.

There are medications, such as anti-depressants, that will cause a positive 
result for cocaine use.  So, if you are being successfully treated for 
depression, should you be discriminated against if you tested positive for 
cocaine use?  I think not.

I hope this clarifies the issue.
Take care,
Debbie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lori Biehler 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:42 PM
  Subject: RE: [TMIC] Drug testing


  Well, I do work and do get tested, it is no worse than someone taking 
morphine, which shows up as an opiate, like heroine, so yes, it is legal and if 
you get discriminated against for it, they are the ones in trouble not you. I 
don't need either at this time, 10 years into this, I can deal just fine with 
no meds at all, but when I needed it, it was there and 100% legal, that is just 
how it is.

  I do believe that eating correctly for your body and exercise helps me enough 
to continue on with my life at a pace that works for me and my loved ones.

  I hope this helps you in some way.

  Lori

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:19 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Drug testing

   

With all due respect, That is nice fairytale thinking but you can almost 
bet that if you are mixed in with several applicants and all the rest do not 
test positive for drugs and you happen to light up the sky with your adornment 
of drugs in the urine test .  Most likely the high probability of your app. 
would be set aside.

After all would they really want someone that shows positive for illegal 
drugs that are pescribed legally? Think about it.

   

  In a message dated 3/10/2008 1:55:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

NO, you would not fail the drug test because Marinol is synthetic THC and 
they test for THC and Marinol is a LEGAL script so they won't fail you because 
you have the script. You will show positive for THC, but you are supposed to 
have that in your urine if you take Marinol. 

Lori

 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:16 PM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [TMIC] Drug testing

 

  I wonder if a person was taking the medication Marinol, would they fail a 
drug test while trying to apply for a job.

 




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