[toaster] Backups
Which files/directories should I include in my backup regime to avoid losing my hard-won qmail configuration? The idea is that, should the worst happen, I can apply the toaster to a new machine, then restore the backups, and everything will work as it used to. I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup space costs money :-)? Nikki -- Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy & programming http://www.trumphurst.com/
RE: [toaster] Backups
Dont forget the vpopmail directory ! Regards, Edvin -Original Message- From: Nikki Locke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 08. Dezember 2005 17:05 To: toaster@shupp.org Subject: [toaster] Backups Which files/directories should I include in my backup regime to avoid losing my hard-won qmail configuration? The idea is that, should the worst happen, I can apply the toaster to a new machine, then restore the backups, and everything will work as it used to. I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup space costs money :-)? Nikki -- Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy & programming http://www.trumphurst.com/
Re: [toaster] Backups
Thanks! Is that the /home/vpopmail directory? If so, do I need to back up anything outside /home/vpopmail/domains (which I already mentioned)? Nikki Seferovic Edvin wrote: > Dont forget the vpopmail directory ! > > Regards, > > Edvin > > -Original Message- > From: Nikki Locke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Donnerstag, 08. Dezember 2005 17:05 > To: toaster@shupp.org > Subject: [toaster] Backups > > Which files/directories should I include in my backup regime to avoid > losing my hard-won qmail configuration? The idea is that, should the worst > happen, I can apply the toaster to a new machine, then restore the backups, > and everything will work as it used to. > > I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, > /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir > directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup > space costs money :-)? > > Nikki -- Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy & programming http://www.trumphurst.com/
Re: [toaster] Backups
> I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, > /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir /var/qmail > directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup > space costs money :-)? You can't be serious... -- Eero
Re: [toaster] Backups
wrote: > > I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, > > /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir > > /var/qmail > > > directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup > > space costs money :-)? > > You can't be serious... Why not? The server and a limited amount of space on a backup server comes at a fixed price. Additional backup space is extra. Looking at the directories, /home/vpopmail wastes most of its space in the Trash folders, which I see no point in backing up. -- Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy & programming http://www.trumphurst.com/
Re: [toaster] Backups
On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Nikki Locke wrote: You can't be serious... Why not? The server and a limited amount of space on a backup server comes at a fixed price. Additional backup space is extra. Lost time rebuilding stuff due to inadequate backups also has a cost. Are you using a commerical backup program, or just doing copies? If you're using something like Arkiea or Retrospect, you can configure your backup sets to exclude the Trash folders but get everything else in ~vpopmail/domains. regards, alex .
Re: [toaster] Backups
Alex Dean wrote: > Lost time rebuilding stuff due to inadequate backups also has a cost. I agree, which is why I am trying to set up a script which backs up what is needed, without backing up unnecessary stuff. > Are you using a commerical backup program, or just doing copies? If > you're using something like Arkiea or Retrospect, you can configure > your backup sets to exclude the Trash folders but get everything else > in ~vpopmail/domains. I'm using a shell script which creates a compressed tar file. I've just changed it so it backs up /home/vpopmail/domains, but excludes */.Trash/* and */.Trash. -- Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy & programming http://www.trumphurst.com/
Re: [toaster] Backups
On Thursday 08 Dec 2005 18:15, Nikki Locke wrote: > wrote: > > > I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, > > > /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir > > > > /var/qmail > > > > > directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup > > > space costs money :-)? > > > > You can't be serious... > > Why not? The server and a limited amount of space on a backup server comes > at a fixed price. Additional backup space is extra. > > Looking at the directories, /home/vpopmail wastes most of its space in the > Trash folders, which I see no point in backing up. If you don't want to backup actual mail, skip any folder called new/ cur/ or tmp/ under /home/vpopmail/domains/*. Skipping Maildir/ will also skip the imap or sqwebmail stuff, probably not what you want. This is pretty easy if you use rsync which will also minimise bandwidth and preserve permissions HTH -- - Bob Hutchinson Midwales dot com -
Re: [toaster] Backups
Hello Bob, do this for tarring: #> cd /;tar -c -z -P -V `date` -B -p -f /where_you_want_to_tar/file_to_tar.tar.gz /var/qmail/users /var/qmail/control /var/qmail/alias /home/vpopmail/domains -X Maildir new cur & That´s all, Hope to help from merry old germany ... - Oliver Etzel Hostmaster www.domainfex.de now Tomcat - Serving > On Thursday 08 Dec 2005 18:15, Nikki Locke wrote: > > wrote: > > > > I am currently backing up /var/qmail/users, /var/qmail/control, > > > > /var/qmail/alias and /home/vpopmail/domains, but excluding the Maildir > > > > > > /var/qmail > > > > > > > directories. Anything else I should add? Anything I can remove (backup > > > > space costs money :-)? > > > > > > You can't be serious... > > > > Why not? The server and a limited amount of space on a backup server comes > > at a fixed price. Additional backup space is extra. > > > > Looking at the directories, /home/vpopmail wastes most of its space in the > > Trash folders, which I see no point in backing up. > > If you don't want to backup actual mail, skip any folder called new/ cur/ or > tmp/ under /home/vpopmail/domains/*. Skipping Maildir/ will also skip the > imap or sqwebmail stuff, probably not what you want. This is pretty easy if > you use rsync which will also minimise bandwidth and preserve permissions > > HTH > -- > - > Bob Hutchinson > Midwales dot com > - >
Re: [toaster] Backups
GoodnGo.de (R) Zentrale wrote: > Hello Bob, > > do this for tarring: > > #> cd /;tar -c -z -P -V `date` -B -p -f > /where_you_want_to_tar/file_to_tar.tar.gz /var/qmail/users > /var/qmail/control /var/qmail/alias /home/vpopmail/domains -X Maildir new > cur & Thanks for the advice. I have a few questions... Why -B [ reblock as we read (for reading 4.2BSD pipes)]? How does "-X Maildir new cur" work? My manual page says -X means open the file given in the following argument, and use that as a list of patterns to ignore. My script looks like this (sorry about any word wrap)... #! /bin/sh # Set up some variables BACKUPLIST=./backup.include EXCLUDELIST=./backup.exclude DAILY=`date +%a` DAILY=test SQLBACK=/remotemount/sqldata.$DAILY.sql.z FULLBACK=/remotemount/fullbackup.$DAILY.tar.z # Dump the data to a ziped sql file mysqldump -uroot -p --add-drop-table --add-locks --lock-tables -- all-databases | gzip > $SQLBACK # Tar all the essential config files, plus the documents into a compressed tar tar cpPzf $FULLBACK --exclude-from $EXCLUDELIST `cat $BACKUPLIST` The backup.include file contains a list of files and directories I want backed up. It looks a bit like this... /etc/my.cnf /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf /etc/passwd /etc/group /usr/sbin/fw_iptables /var/qmail /home/vpopmail/domains /var/www The backup.exclude file contains a list of patterns not to back up. It looks like this... */logs/* */backups/* */.Trash/* */.Trash */qmail/man/* */qmail/doc/* */qmail/bin/* Obviously, I've done it this way so that the include and exclude lists can easily be changed without too much danger of messing up the script. -- Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy & programming http://www.trumphurst.com/
