Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
maybe you already have the answer but here his mine:) Specifically, I would like to know, for the scenario above, how I would fill in the three text boxes on the page at http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/html/list which are labeled Path, Config URL, and WAR URL. As it stands right now, I would think it would be: Path = /someApp Config URL = I have no idea WAR URL = C:\some\path\to\war\file\on\Win2K Config URL should be something like file:/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat/webapps/myapp.xml (unix system) where myapp.xml file looks like manager.xml hope it helps Luc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
John, The manager install and reload finctions work fine on 4.0.4 running on an AS/400 with a windows client. Your URL format looks correct and like the one I used. It took me a few trial and errors to get the format correct. Bill Hello - I've setup 4.1.12 on Solaris 8. I've given access to the manager app to my users. They are all using the same user account and password in tomcat-users.xml for now, though that will change once I get more experience using the security roles system. Do my users need system-level user accounts in order to use the Tomcat manager app? Do WAR files need to be copied to the server prior to trying to deploy them using the Manager app?I'm trying to use a Manager URL like this to install a WAR file: http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/install?path=/myAppwar=file:C:/path/to/ myApp.war This returns an error message that says: FAIL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Doc base must point to a WAR file I've got a whole bunch of Microsoft VB coders learning JSP and Java, and I'd really like to avoid having to set all of them up as users on my server, and teach them about command lines, FTP, etc. It was my understanding that they would be able to use the Manager app to deploy their WAR files as needed via a web browser. Is this not the case? Assume this scenario: - they should be able to access their apps on http://some.server.name/someApp - they should be able to use the Manager app to deploy as needed - their application WAR files exist on Windows 2000 Pro machines That said, can someone provide me with an example of how to deploy someApp.war from a Windows 2000 machine to a Tomcat server using only the Manager app? Can this even be done? Specifically, I would like to know, for the scenario above, how I would fill in the three text boxes on the page at http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/html/list which are labeled Path, Config URL, and WAR URL. As it stands right now, I would think it would be: Path = /someApp Config URL = I have no idea WAR URL = C:\some\path\to\war\file\on\Win2K Any help is appreciated...and I guarantee the docs will get updated once I figure this out, as they haven't helped me any so far! - John John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 248-488-3466 Advertising Audit Service http://www.aas.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, The manager install and reload finctions work fine on 4.0.4 running on an AS/400 with a windows client. Your URL format looks correct and like the one I used. It took me a few trial and errors to get the format correct. Bill Hello - I've setup 4.1.12 on Solaris 8. I've given access to the manager app to my users. They are all using the same user account and password in tomcat-users.xml for now, though that will change once I get more experience using the security roles system. Do my users need system-level user accounts in order to use the Tomcat manager app? Do WAR files need to be copied to the server prior to trying to deploy them using the Manager app?I'm trying to use a Manager URL like this to install a WAR file: http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/install?path=/myAppwar=file:C:/path/to/ myApp.war This returns an error message that says: FAIL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Doc base must point to a WAR file I've got a whole bunch of Microsoft VB coders learning JSP and Java, and I'd really like to avoid having to set all of them up as users on my server, and teach them about command lines, FTP, etc. It was my understanding that they would be able to use the Manager app to deploy their WAR files as needed via a web browser. Is this not the case? Assume this scenario: - they should be able to access their apps on http://some.server.name/someApp - they should be able to use the Manager app to deploy as needed - their application WAR files exist on Windows 2000 Pro machines That said, can someone provide me with an example of how to deploy someApp.war from a Windows 2000 machine to a Tomcat server using only the Manager app? Can this even be done? Specifically, I would like to know, for the scenario above, how I would fill in the three text boxes on the page at http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/html/list which are labeled Path, Config URL, and WAR URL. As it stands right now, I would think it would be: Path = /someApp Config URL = I have no idea WAR URL = C:\some\path\to\war\file\on\Win2K Any help is appreciated...and I guarantee the docs will get updated once I figure this out, as they haven't helped me any so far! - John John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 248-488-3466 Advertising Audit Service http://www.aas.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. John -Original Message- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:tmo;ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:15 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
My point is that if I can upload a GIF file (a binary file) via a web page, why on earth can't I upload a WAR file? Seems to make perfect sense to me. John -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:JTurner;AAS.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:20 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. John -Original Message- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:tmo;ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:15 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
This URL doesn't work either: http://some.domain.com:8080/manager/install?path=/myAppwar=jar:http://inter nal.dev.box/myApp.war!/ It returns an error that says: FAIL - Encountered exception java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid URL for web application archive: http://internal.dev.box/myApp.war; I've verified with wget that the WAR file is definitely available via HTTP from the local development workstation using that URL. Can anyone explain what's going on? John -Original Message- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:tmo;ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:15 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, The manager install and reload finctions work fine on 4.0.4 running on an AS/400 with a windows client. Your URL format looks correct and like the one I used. It took me a few trial and errors to get the format correct. Bill Hello - I've setup 4.1.12 on Solaris 8. I've given access to the manager app to my users. They are all using the same user account and password in tomcat-users.xml for now, though that will change once I get more experience using the security roles system. Do my users need system-level user accounts in order to use the Tomcat manager app? Do WAR files need to be copied to the server prior to trying to deploy them using the Manager app?I'm trying to use a Manager URL like this to install a WAR file: http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/install?path=/myAppwar= file:C:/path/to/ myApp.war This returns an error message that says: FAIL - Encountered exception java.io.IOException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Doc base must point to a WAR file I've got a whole bunch of Microsoft VB coders learning JSP and Java, and I'd really like to avoid having to set all of them up as users on my server, and teach them about command lines, FTP, etc. It was my understanding that they would be able to use the Manager app to deploy their WAR files as needed via a web browser. Is this not the case? Assume this scenario: - they should be able to access their apps on http://some.server.name/someApp - they should be able to use the Manager app to deploy as needed - their application WAR files exist on Windows 2000 Pro machines That said, can someone provide me with an example of how to deploy someApp.war from a Windows 2000 machine to a Tomcat server using only the Manager app? Can this even be done? Specifically, I would like to know, for the scenario above, how I would fill in the three text boxes on the page at http://galeron.aas.com:8080/manager/html/list which are labeled Path, Config URL, and WAR URL. As it stands right now, I would think it would be: Path = /someApp Config URL = I have no idea WAR URL = C:\some\path\to\war\file\on\Win2K Any help is appreciated...and I guarantee the docs will get updated once I figure this out, as they haven't helped me any so far! - John John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 248-488-3466 Advertising Audit Service http://www.aas.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
The input type for this entry field is text. I think the input type should be file for a server to be able to accept it. Otherwise, I feel, there is no privacy. I can access anything from user's hard drive. Sri At 10:35 AM 11/8/2002, Turner, John wrote: My point is that if I can upload a GIF file (a binary file) via a web page, why on earth can't I upload a WAR file? Seems to make perfect sense to me. John -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:JTurner;AAS.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:20 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. John -Original Message- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:tmo;ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:15 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
Understood, my point was that the answer to my original question seems to be you can only deploy WAR files that exist on the same machine as the Tomcat server using the Tomcat Manager and that doesn't seem to be very helpful...I can do that via the command line. It would seem to me that the advantage of a web-based management interface is that I can develop somewhere else, and deploy somewhere else, and use the web page to do this. So far, based on the error messages I am getting, this is not possible. Or I just have the URL screwed up, but I have verified that my WAR file is available at the URL I give Manager. John -Original Message- From: Srinadh Karumuri [mailto:skarumur;bbn.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:06 AM To: Tomcat Users List; 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? The input type for this entry field is text. I think the input type should be file for a server to be able to accept it. Otherwise, I feel, there is no privacy. I can access anything from user's hard drive. Sri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
actually this should work. I have used install with a context(not a war). you have to play around with the path to get it exactly right. I would expect it to work with a war as well. I don't recall the exact syntax, but I did get it working by referencing the manager howto. I think Tom read it as your war is on your machine, not the server, where I read it as you copied the war to your tomcat server and are just trying to make it available. Is this assumption correct? did you try 'jar:file:' in place of 'file:' for your path? Charlie -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:JTurner;AAS.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:20 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. John -Original Message- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:tmo;ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:15 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
my apologies, saw your reply before your original post... I haven't tried a remote war file Charlie -Original Message- From: Cox, Charlie [mailto:ccox;cincom.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:13 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? actually this should work. I have used install with a context(not a war). you have to play around with the path to get it exactly right. I would expect it to work with a war as well. I don't recall the exact syntax, but I did get it working by referencing the manager howto. I think Tom read it as your war is on your machine, not the server, where I read it as you copied the war to your tomcat server and are just trying to make it available. Is this assumption correct? did you try 'jar:file:' in place of 'file:' for your path? Charlie -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:JTurner;AAS.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:20 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. John -Original Message- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:tmo;ebi.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:15 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? I find it unlikely that a path like that ever worked on any system. You're sending parameters to a server, so the code that needs to read the .war file is running remotely. There is no way that the remote server will understand your 'C:/path/.../foo.war', it simply doesn't exist there. You need to put the war files onto an HTTP server somewhere, quite possible using IIS or Apache on your win2k machines, have the users copy the war files into their web space and then access them by HTTP from the manager application (i.e. use the http://my.workstation/~me/mywebapp.war rather than a local file path). Cheers, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:20:18 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. The deploy command does indeed do a PUT, so it can upload a WAR to a remote Tomcat instance. You won't be able to directly do this with a browser, through -- the most common mechanism is to use the custom Ant task (so that you can easily script it) that is included with Tomcat 4.1. See the Manager docs for more info: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/manager-howto.html Alternatively, front-end management tools (such as the deploytool GUI included in the Java Web Services Developer Pack) can transparently use this approach behind the scenes for you. The install command does not copy the webapp -- it simply mounts it in place, so the directory or WAR needs to be on the same filesystem as the Tomcat instance. This is a lot faster during development, which is why it exists separately. It also works directly from the browser. John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
OK, thanks for the clarification. I will keep playing with it, and check out the other tools you mentioned. John -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc;apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:53 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:20:18 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? That's a shame. Certainly doesn't make much sense, either. What's the use of the Manager app then? Might as well just use the command line. From the docs: The war parameter specifies a URL (including the file: scheme) for either a directory or a web application archive (WAR) file. Actually, it looks like it does work, I just wasn't using jar. Also from the docs: jar:file:/absolute/path/to/a/warfile.war!/ - The URL to a local web application archive (WAR) file. You can use any syntax that is valid for the JarURLConnection class for reference to an entire JAR file. It's supposed to work via HTTP PUT. The deploy command does indeed do a PUT, so it can upload a WAR to a remote Tomcat instance. You won't be able to directly do this with a browser, through -- the most common mechanism is to use the custom Ant task (so that you can easily script it) that is included with Tomcat 4.1. See the Manager docs for more info: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/manager-howto.html Alternatively, front-end management tools (such as the deploytool GUI included in the Java Web Services Developer Pack) can transparently use this approach behind the scenes for you. The install command does not copy the webapp -- it simply mounts it in place, so the directory or WAR needs to be on the same filesystem as the Tomcat instance. This is a lot faster during development, which is why it exists separately. It also works directly from the browser. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:01:25 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? OK, thanks for the clarification. I will keep playing with it, and check out the other tools you mentioned. As a shortcut to using the Ant-based tasks, check out the Application Developer's Guide shipped with 4.1 -- it includes a nice template build.xml file that defines everything you need, including the declarations of the custom tasks and examples of their use: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For the Java Web Services Developer Pack release (based on Tomcat 4.1), and the associated tutorial which includes information on using these tasks as well as the deloytool GUI, start at: http://java.sun.com/webservices/ John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
Sweet. Thanks. Hope those VB coders are ready to get down and funky with ant. :) John -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc;apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:13 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:01:25 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? OK, thanks for the clarification. I will keep playing with it, and check out the other tools you mentioned. As a shortcut to using the Ant-based tasks, check out the Application Developer's Guide shipped with 4.1 -- it includes a nice template build.xml file that defines everything you need, including the declarations of the custom tasks and examples of their use: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/ For the Java Web Services Developer Pack release (based on Tomcat 4.1), and the associated tutorial which includes information on using these tasks as well as the deloytool GUI, start at: http://java.sun.com/webservices/ John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:07:13 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? Sweet. Thanks. Hope those VB coders are ready to get down and funky with ant. :) Nah ... that's what GUI tools are for :-). John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
Is a form-based method for uploading the WAR files worth exploring? Or was there a specific decision made at some point to skip that? I was honestly surprised that I couldn't just use a standard browse button to pick a WAR file off my local drive and send it to the server for deployment, security issues aside. John -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc;apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:16 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:07:13 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? Sweet. Thanks. Hope those VB coders are ready to get down and funky with ant. :) Nah ... that's what GUI tools are for :-). John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:18:54 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? Is a form-based method for uploading the WAR files worth exploring? Or was there a specific decision made at some point to skip that? I was honestly surprised that I couldn't just use a standard browse button to pick a WAR file off my local drive and send it to the server for deployment, security issues aside. The deploy option was designed the way it was to make tool integration easy, not to be used directly by users. The same basic philosophy was followed for all the other commands -- they were intended to be interacted with by programs, not people. That being said, a file upload based remote deployment mechanism is certainly feasible, as long as you have the appropriate server-side logic to decode the data out of the request (like the library included with Struts). I just think this functionality would belong in something like the admin webapp, rather than manager -- putting a human UI on the manager webapp is misguided, IMHO. John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12?
Understood. Thanks. John -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc;apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:04 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Turner, John wrote: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:18:54 -0500 From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System user accounts required to use manager in 4.1.12? Is a form-based method for uploading the WAR files worth exploring? Or was there a specific decision made at some point to skip that? I was honestly surprised that I couldn't just use a standard browse button to pick a WAR file off my local drive and send it to the server for deployment, security issues aside. The deploy option was designed the way it was to make tool integration easy, not to be used directly by users. The same basic philosophy was followed for all the other commands -- they were intended to be interacted with by programs, not people. That being said, a file upload based remote deployment mechanism is certainly feasible, as long as you have the appropriate server-side logic to decode the data out of the request (like the library included with Struts). I just think this functionality would belong in something like the admin webapp, rather than manager -- putting a human UI on the manager webapp is misguided, IMHO. John Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
