RE: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>i downloaded the lastes tomcat-version (for windows xp!), installed it
>right as the installer did. called once "localhost" and i got the
>greeting-screen from tomcat (meant: installation was ok!).

Good.

>but then the problems began. how to get my  site into tomcat. all the
>ways i tried failed. there was always the same problem: the
>//index.jsp was found, but the other files weren't: instead of
>///.jsp it looked for in /.jsp!! so with
>the servlets: i coded "//servlet/" and it looked for
>.

If you have a war file, simply copy it into tomcat's webapps directory.
Links in your servlets, JSPs, HTML pages should be appropriately
relative. Give us an example of a link that doesn't work: I bet it's a
link to /servlet/myservlet as opposed to /mywar/servlet/myservlet or
better yet ../servlet/myservlet.

You should map all your servlets in web.xml.

>questions: can i use tomcat "just right out of the box" or is this a
fas
>too privimitive way to use this heavy program?

Yes, you can use it right out of the box: it's designed for that.

>must i install apache as well or is tomcat sufficient?

You don't need Apache at this point: tomcat by itself is fine.

>where should i look for a solution for my (for me: heavy) problem??

This is the place.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello shapira - and greetings and thank to ann -,

thank you for your time spent on my problem.

here are more details:

1. the long line in server.xml, where i declared the context for "sygenews":

   charsetMapperClass="org.apache.catalina.util.CharsetMapper" 
cookies="true"
   crossContext="true" debug="0"
   docBase="C:\Programme\Apache Group\Tomcat 4.1\webapps\sygenews"   
   mapperClass="org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextMapper"
   path="/sygenews" privileged="false" reloadable="true" 
swallowOutput="false"
   useNaming="true" 
wrapperClass="org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper">

the directory-name is sygenews, the war-file-name is sygenews.war, and i 
want it to place beneath "webapps"-dir in tomcat.

as i told you: with localhost:8080/sygenews the index.jsp was found, 
but: my "/formates.css" - link didn't work - wrong font appeared.
why could this be?

and the next problem (as you thought): the link 
"/servlet/sygenews.index" (/WEB-INF/classes/sygenews/index.class) was 
not found - it showed: localhost:8080/servlet/sygenews.index not available.

in netbeans i have a project: sygenews, there are the files in normal 
order: /*.jsp, /WEB-INF/classes/*.java, *.class. i right-clicked on 
document-root and chose: make war-file (or similar); the war-file was made.
in tomcat i installed it in the manager-mask (upload a war-file to 
install - out of my project-dir).
it installed "ok", i clicked the new link and there it was... (as i 
described above).

in netbeans it worked - i copied already the server.xml-file from 
netbeans to tomcat, but the result was the same.

now to the path-question:
i coded every link as "/...". i want to be sure, that the searching 
should begin on top to find everything (out of sub-dirs). is this so 
wrong? isn't it un-sure where i will go, if i write "../..."?
and - sorry for repeating - in nb it works.

must i declare a special connector?
what is the right mapping of servlets in my web.xml? is this one ok:
...
sygenews.news
...
/servlet/sygenews.news
so did i in my project-web.xml (but somehow blind, by hand...).

bye
hans
Shapira, Yoav schrieb:

Howdy,

 

i downloaded the lastes tomcat-version (for windows xp!), installed it
right as the installer did. called once "localhost" and i got the
greeting-screen from tomcat (meant: installation was ok!).
   

Good.

 

but then the problems began. how to get my  site into tomcat. all the
ways i tried failed. there was always the same problem: the
//index.jsp was found, but the other files weren't: instead of
///.jsp it looked for in /.jsp!! so with
the servlets: i coded "//servlet/" and it looked for
.
   

If you have a war file, simply copy it into tomcat's webapps directory.
Links in your servlets, JSPs, HTML pages should be appropriately
relative. Give us an example of a link that doesn't work: I bet it's a
link to /servlet/myservlet as opposed to /mywar/servlet/myservlet or
better yet ../servlet/myservlet.
You should map all your servlets in web.xml.

 

questions: can i use tomcat "just right out of the box" or is this a
   

fas
 

too privimitive way to use this heavy program?
   

Yes, you can use it right out of the box: it's designed for that.

 

must i install apache as well or is tomcat sufficient?
   

You don't need Apache at this point: tomcat by itself is fine.

 

where should i look for a solution for my (for me: heavy) problem??
   

This is the place.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello,

would it be a solution, if i declared another "host" in server.xml with 
appbase="
if yes: how could i get there?

greetings
hans
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RE: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-23 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Your context is all default settings: you can take the whole 
declaration out of server.xml and let tomcat auto-deploy your war file.

The problem with your HTML links, like the one for your stylesheet, is
that they're absolute: /myFile.css is from the server root.  There's
nothing at the server root.  Change the links to have the webapp name in
the beginning, e.g. /sygenews/myFile.css.  You can confirm for yourself
these links work by entering them into your browser:
http://yourserver:yourport/myFile.css will not work (404 error)
http://yourserver:yourport/sygenews/myFile.css will work.

These are fairly basic concepts: you might want to go through a couple
of HTML/servlet tutorials.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:33 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks
some
>basic!?
>
>hello shapira - and greetings and thank to ann -,
>
>thank you for your time spent on my problem.
>
>here are more details:
>
>1. the long line in server.xml, where i declared the context for
>"sygenews":
>cachingAllowed="true"
>charsetMapperClass="org.apache.catalina.util.CharsetMapper"
>cookies="true"
>crossContext="true" debug="0"
>docBase="C:\Programme\Apache Group\Tomcat 4.1\webapps\sygenews"
>mapperClass="org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextMapper"
>path="/sygenews" privileged="false" reloadable="true"
>swallowOutput="false"
>useNaming="true"
>wrapperClass="org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper">
>
>the directory-name is sygenews, the war-file-name is sygenews.war, and
i
>want it to place beneath "webapps"-dir in tomcat.
>
>as i told you: with localhost:8080/sygenews the index.jsp was found,
>but: my "/formates.css" - link didn't work - wrong font appeared.
>why could this be?
>
>and the next problem (as you thought): the link
>"/servlet/sygenews.index" (/WEB-INF/classes/sygenews/index.class) was
>not found - it showed: localhost:8080/servlet/sygenews.index not
available.
>
>in netbeans i have a project: sygenews, there are the files in normal
>order: /*.jsp, /WEB-INF/classes/*.java, *.class. i right-clicked on
>document-root and chose: make war-file (or similar); the war-file was
made.
>in tomcat i installed it in the manager-mask (upload a war-file to
>install - out of my project-dir).
>it installed "ok", i clicked the new link and there it was... (as i
>described above).
>
>in netbeans it worked - i copied already the server.xml-file from
>netbeans to tomcat, but the result was the same.
>
>now to the path-question:
>i coded every link as "/...". i want to be sure, that the searching
>should begin on top to find everything (out of sub-dirs). is this so
>wrong? isn't it un-sure where i will go, if i write "../..."?
>and - sorry for repeating - in nb it works.
>
>must i declare a special connector?
>what is the right mapping of servlets in my web.xml? is this one ok:
>...
>sygenews.news
>...
>/servlet/sygenews.news
>
>so did i in my project-web.xml (but somehow blind, by hand...).
>
>bye
>hans
>
>Shapira, Yoav schrieb:
>
>>Howdy,
>>
>>
>>
>>>i downloaded the lastes tomcat-version (for windows xp!), installed
it
>>>right as the installer did. called once "localhost" and i got the
>>>greeting-screen from tomcat (meant: installation was ok!).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Good.
>>
>>
>>
>>>but then the problems began. how to get my  site into tomcat. all the
>>>ways i tried failed. there was always the same problem: the
>>>//index.jsp was found, but the other files weren't: instead of
>>>///.jsp it looked for in /.jsp!! so
with
>>>the servlets: i coded "//servlet/" and it looked
for
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>If you have a war file, simply copy it into tomcat's webapps
directory.
>>Links in your servlets, JSPs, HTML pages should be appropriately
>>relative. Give us an example of a link that doesn't work: I bet it's a
>>link to /servlet/myservlet as opposed to /mywar/servlet/myservlet or
>>better yet ../servlet/myservlet.
>>
>>You should map all your servlets in web.xml.
>>
>>
>>
>>>questions: can i use tomcat "just right out of the box" or is this a
>>>
>>>
>>fas
>>
>>
>>>too privim

Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello,

i really let tomcat do the job...

with the paths: isn't it so, that "docBase=..." means, that all my links 
would be added to this entry? and why does it work in netbeans (i tried 
to find any differences but i didn't!)?

tell me, that i mustn't recode all my links!

and: installing my files under a domain: isn't it allowed(?) too, to say 
"/formats.css"??

hans

Shapira, Yoav schrieb:

Howdy,
Your context is all default settings: you can take the whole 
declaration out of server.xml and let tomcat auto-deploy your war file.
The problem with your HTML links, like the one for your stylesheet, is
that they're absolute: /myFile.css is from the server root.  There's
nothing at the server root.  Change the links to have the webapp name in
the beginning, e.g. /sygenews/myFile.css.  You can confirm for yourself
these links work by entering them into your browser:
http://yourserver:yourport/myFile.css will not work (404 error)
http://yourserver:yourport/sygenews/myFile.css will work.
These are fairly basic concepts: you might want to go through a couple
of HTML/servlet tutorials.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:33 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks
   

some
 

basic!?

hello shapira - and greetings and thank to ann -,

thank you for your time spent on my problem.

here are more details:

1. the long line in server.xml, where i declared the context for
"sygenews":

cachingAllowed="true"
  charsetMapperClass="org.apache.catalina.util.CharsetMapper"
cookies="true"
  crossContext="true" debug="0"
  docBase="C:\Programme\Apache Group\Tomcat 4.1\webapps\sygenews"
  mapperClass="org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextMapper"
  path="/sygenews" privileged="false" reloadable="true"
swallowOutput="false"
  useNaming="true"
wrapperClass="org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper">

the directory-name is sygenews, the war-file-name is sygenews.war, and
   

i
 

want it to place beneath "webapps"-dir in tomcat.

as i told you: with localhost:8080/sygenews the index.jsp was found,
but: my "/formates.css" - link didn't work - wrong font appeared.
why could this be?
and the next problem (as you thought): the link
"/servlet/sygenews.index" (/WEB-INF/classes/sygenews/index.class) was
not found - it showed: localhost:8080/servlet/sygenews.index not
   

available.
 

in netbeans i have a project: sygenews, there are the files in normal
order: /*.jsp, /WEB-INF/classes/*.java, *.class. i right-clicked on
document-root and chose: make war-file (or similar); the war-file was
   

made.
 

in tomcat i installed it in the manager-mask (upload a war-file to
install - out of my project-dir).
it installed "ok", i clicked the new link and there it was... (as i
described above).
in netbeans it worked - i copied already the server.xml-file from
netbeans to tomcat, but the result was the same.
now to the path-question:
i coded every link as "/...". i want to be sure, that the searching
should begin on top to find everything (out of sub-dirs). is this so
wrong? isn't it un-sure where i will go, if i write "../..."?
and - sorry for repeating - in nb it works.
must i declare a special connector?
what is the right mapping of servlets in my web.xml? is this one ok:
...
sygenews.news
...
/servlet/sygenews.news
so did i in my project-web.xml (but somehow blind, by hand...).

bye
hans
Shapira, Yoav schrieb:

   

Howdy,



 

i downloaded the lastes tomcat-version (for windows xp!), installed
   

it
 

right as the installer did. called once "localhost" and i got the
greeting-screen from tomcat (meant: installation was ok!).
   

Good.



 

but then the problems began. how to get my  site into tomcat. all the
ways i tried failed. there was always the same problem: the
//index.jsp was found, but the other files weren't: instead of
///.jsp it looked for in /.jsp!! so
   

with
 

the servlets: i coded "//servlet/" and it looked
   

for
 

.

   

If you have a war file, simply copy it into tomcat's webapps
 

directory.
 

Links in your servlets, JSPs, HTML pages should be appropriately
relative. Give us an example of a link that doesn't work: I bet it's a
link to /servlet/myservlet as opposed to /mywar/servlet/myservlet or
better yet ../servlet/myservlet.
You should map all your servlets in web.xml.



 

questions: can i use tomcat "just right out of the box" or is this a

   

fas

 

too privimitive way to use this heavy program?

   

Yes, you can use it right out of the box: it's designe

RE: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-23 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>with the paths: isn't it so, that "docBase=..." means, that all my
links
>would be added to this entry? and why does it work in netbeans (i tried
>to find any differences but i didn't!)?

No.  Be careful to note the difference between a context's path and its
docBase.  You probably want a context whose path is "", so that people
can point their browser at http://yourserver:yourport/ and see your
webapp.

Why it works in NetBeans is probably because NetBeans deploys your
webapp to the "" context by default.  I'm not familiar enough with
NetBeans to comment further.

>tell me, that i mustn't recode all my links!

You should have coded them relatively in the first place to avoid this
problem.  Setting the context path to "" will save you the need to
rewrite your links.

>and: installing my files under a domain: isn't it allowed(?) too, to
say
>"/formats.css"??

It is allowed.  Whether it makes sense to the container or not depends
on your configuration.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,

i tried the path="" with my tomcat, and the result was the same. how 
does this "http://yourserver:yourport"; work in "real"-life: must i do 
several tomcat-installation, shall there be more "

please give me one more hint!

thank you
hans
Shapira, Yoav schrieb:

Howdy,

 

with the paths: isn't it so, that "docBase=..." means, that all my
   

links
 

would be added to this entry? and why does it work in netbeans (i tried
to find any differences but i didn't!)?
   

No.  Be careful to note the difference between a context's path and its
docBase.  You probably want a context whose path is "", so that people
can point their browser at http://yourserver:yourport/ and see your
webapp.
Why it works in NetBeans is probably because NetBeans deploys your
webapp to the "" context by default.  I'm not familiar enough with
NetBeans to comment further.
 

tell me, that i mustn't recode all my links!
   

You should have coded them relatively in the first place to avoid this
problem.  Setting the context path to "" will save you the need to
rewrite your links.
 

and: installing my files under a domain: isn't it allowed(?) too, to
   

say
 

"/formats.css"??
   

It is allowed.  Whether it makes sense to the container or not depends
on your configuration.
Yoav Shapira



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RE: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-23 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
I'm quickly getting tired of this.  You should really read the 
configuration reference in the tomcat docs, especially docBase and path,
and make sure you understand them.

You don't need multiple Engines or Hosts, one (the default) is enough.

Don't have absolute links, i.e links that start with /, in your webapp.
They should all be relative, i.e start with ./ or ../.  If they have to
start with /, it must be / + your webapp name + /the file, i.e.
/sygenews/myfile.html.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:58 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks
some
>basic!?
>
>hi,
>
>i tried the path="" with my tomcat, and the result was the same. how
>does this "http://yourserver:yourport"; work in "real"-life: must i do
>several tomcat-installation, shall there be more "more "
>please give me one more hint!
>
>thank you
>hans
>
>Shapira, Yoav schrieb:
>
>>Howdy,
>>
>>
>>
>>>with the paths: isn't it so, that "docBase=..." means, that all my
>>>
>>>
>>links
>>
>>
>>>would be added to this entry? and why does it work in netbeans (i
tried
>>>to find any differences but i didn't!)?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>No.  Be careful to note the difference between a context's path and
its
>>docBase.  You probably want a context whose path is "", so that people
>>can point their browser at http://yourserver:yourport/ and see your
>>webapp.
>>
>>Why it works in NetBeans is probably because NetBeans deploys your
>>webapp to the "" context by default.  I'm not familiar enough with
>>NetBeans to comment further.
>>
>>
>>
>>>tell me, that i mustn't recode all my links!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You should have coded them relatively in the first place to avoid this
>>problem.  Setting the context path to "" will save you the need to
>>rewrite your links.
>>
>>
>>
>>>and: installing my files under a domain: isn't it allowed(?) too, to
>>>
>>>
>>say
>>
>>
>>>"/formats.css"??
>>>
>>>
>>
>>It is allowed.  Whether it makes sense to the container or not depends
>>on your configuration.
>>
>>Yoav Shapira
>>
>>
>>
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Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dear yoav shapira,

please don't take it personal! it's me who is sitting lots of hours and 
trying...

thank your for your time spent to answer my emails.

i have one last question and i hope i get a last answer:

what you told me in your last email (with absolute and relative paths) - 
is this not only true for my private-tomcat-environment but also, when i 
once have an own domain like "www.myapp.at"?

greetings and thank you so much for your help
hans horwath
Shapira, Yoav schrieb:

Howdy,
I'm quickly getting tired of this.  You should really read the 
configuration reference in the tomcat docs, especially docBase and path,
and make sure you understand them.
You don't need multiple Engines or Hosts, one (the default) is enough.

Don't have absolute links, i.e links that start with /, in your webapp.
They should all be relative, i.e start with ./ or ../.  If they have to
start with /, it must be / + your webapp name + /the file, i.e.
/sygenews/myfile.html.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:58 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks
   

some
 

basic!?

hi,

i tried the path="" with my tomcat, and the result was the same. how
does this "http://yourserver:yourport"; work in "real"-life: must i do
several tomcat-installation, shall there be more "
please give me one more hint!

thank you
hans
Shapira, Yoav schrieb:

   

Howdy,



 

with the paths: isn't it so, that "docBase=..." means, that all my

   

links

 

would be added to this entry? and why does it work in netbeans (i
   

tried
 

to find any differences but i didn't!)?

   

No.  Be careful to note the difference between a context's path and
 

its
 

docBase.  You probably want a context whose path is "", so that people
can point their browser at http://yourserver:yourport/ and see your
webapp.
Why it works in NetBeans is probably because NetBeans deploys your
webapp to the "" context by default.  I'm not familiar enough with
NetBeans to comment further.


 

tell me, that i mustn't recode all my links!

   

You should have coded them relatively in the first place to avoid this
problem.  Setting the context path to "" will save you the need to
rewrite your links.


 

and: installing my files under a domain: isn't it allowed(?) too, to

   

say

 

"/formats.css"??

   

It is allowed.  Whether it makes sense to the container or not depends
on your configuration.
Yoav Shapira



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RE: does tomcat work without apache? ... a real beginner asks some basic!?

2003-10-28 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>dear yoav shapira,
>
>please don't take it personal! it's me who is sitting lots of hours and
>trying...

Don't worry about me ;)  I get enough amusement out of this mailing list
to make up for the annoyance ;)

>what you told me in your last email (with absolute and relative paths)
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>is this not only true for my private-tomcat-environment but also, when
i
>once have an own domain like "www.myapp.at"?

Yes, it's true for that as well.  Use relative links.

Yoav Shapira



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