Tomcat Servlets IIS ASP ?

2001-02-12 Thread Grobe, Gary


I work w/ JSP but have no experience with ASP. I'd like to know how IIS
processes ASP and if these same request/responses can also be sent to
TOMCAT?

What are other people doing for tomcat sites that use ASP?

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Re: Tomcat Servlets IIS ASP ?

2001-02-12 Thread Rob Tanner

ASP is a tagging system integral to IIS.  The language between the tags 
is Microsoft's proprietary VBScript (and I think you can also use 
VBasic, another Microsoft proprietary language).  It also uses COM 
objects and other of Microsoft's proprietary concoction.  Nothing about 
ASP is Java.

I don't use IIS, but I understand Tomcat can be installed and used with 
IIS, and I presume JSP and ASP will work together without any conflict. 
But since ASP pages aren't coded in Java, to have Tomact handle them, 
you'd need to write a servlet that understands ASP tags and VBScript. 
To get an idea of what that entails, look at iASP, a commercial product 
of Halcyon.  It is an ASP server written in Java that understands the 
ASP language.  Described simply, it's a monster servlet (the reality is 
a tad more complex).  iASP can be run using any compliant servlet 
engine, including Tomcat.  You wouldn't need iASP on IIS since you've 
already got ASP, but looking at iASP does give you an idea of what's 
involved.

-- Rob


--On Monday, February 12, 2001 09:11:20 AM -0600 "Grobe, Gary" 
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 I work w/ JSP but have no experience with ASP. I'd like to know how
 IIS processes ASP and if these same request/responses can also be
 sent to TOMCAT?

 What are other people doing for tomcat sites that use ASP?

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RE: Tomcat Servlets IIS ASP ?

2001-02-12 Thread Grobe, Gary

Let me explain in a little more detail my question.

I have servlets that insert code into responses (using filters) and I'd like
to know if my client is using an ASP on IIS, will I be able to catch the
response and insert my html code in that response?

Also, will I be able to get requests also before IIS has start processing
that ASP?

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From: Rob Tanner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 8:11 AM
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Subject: Re: Tomcat Servlets  IIS ASP ?


ASP is a tagging system integral to IIS.  The language between the tags
is Microsoft's proprietary VBScript (and I think you can also use
VBasic, another Microsoft proprietary language).  It also uses COM
objects and other of Microsoft's proprietary concoction.  Nothing about
ASP is Java.

I don't use IIS, but I understand Tomcat can be installed and used with
IIS, and I presume JSP and ASP will work together without any conflict.
But since ASP pages aren't coded in Java, to have Tomact handle them,
you'd need to write a servlet that understands ASP tags and VBScript.
To get an idea of what that entails, look at iASP, a commercial product
of Halcyon.  It is an ASP server written in Java that understands the
ASP language.  Described simply, it's a monster servlet (the reality is
a tad more complex).  iASP can be run using any compliant servlet
engine, including Tomcat.  You wouldn't need iASP on IIS since you've
already got ASP, but looking at iASP does give you an idea of what's
involved.

-- Rob


--On Monday, February 12, 2001 09:11:20 AM -0600 "Grobe, Gary"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I work w/ JSP but have no experience with ASP. I'd like to know how
 IIS processes ASP and if these same request/responses can also be
 sent to TOMCAT?

 What are other people doing for tomcat sites that use ASP?

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RE: Tomcat Servlets IIS ASP ?

2001-02-12 Thread Michael Wentzel

 I have servlets that insert code into responses (using 
 filters) and I'd like
 to know if my client is using an ASP on IIS, will I be able 
 to catch the
 response and insert my html code in that response?
 
 Also, will I be able to get requests also before IIS has 
 start processing
 that ASP?

I know I've heard of, but haven't delt with, COM brokers for java
so you might check into that for some possibilities.

Maybe a servlet that you could make a COM request from the ASP
using this brokerage that would pass back the html but not actually
"insert" the html.  Just a stab in the dark.  I haven't done
anything like this myself.

Definitely an interesting prospect you have going there





PS - Hey look John G. you get to see another of my responses on the
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RE: Tomcat Servlets IIS ASP ?

2001-02-12 Thread John Golubenko

P.S. to Michael:
Sure. If you don't know anything about it, don't waste internet bandwidth
sending it.

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From: Michael Wentzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 8:35 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Tomcat Servlets  IIS ASP ?


 I have servlets that insert code into responses (using 
 filters) and I'd like
 to know if my client is using an ASP on IIS, will I be able 
 to catch the
 response and insert my html code in that response?
 
 Also, will I be able to get requests also before IIS has 
 start processing
 that ASP?

I know I've heard of, but haven't delt with, COM brokers for java
so you might check into that for some possibilities.

Maybe a servlet that you could make a COM request from the ASP
using this brokerage that would pass back the html but not actually
"insert" the html.  Just a stab in the dark.  I haven't done
anything like this myself.

Definitely an interesting prospect you have going there





PS - Hey look John G. you get to see another of my responses on the
 list!!!  Lucky you.

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Michael Wentzel
Software Developer
Software As We Think - http://www.aswethink.com
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