Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Initial Buffering

2010-06-26 Thread Chrobrego

OK thanks for your advises I will also buy 1GB RAM and see if the result
is better. But I'am not going to give up with the WIFI, this is so
convenient.
I let you know...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Audiophile Touch mods - take two

2010-06-26 Thread firedog

Let's see: I have no intention of using the USB or SD features,as I run
music from a dedicated SBS server. I generally only use the digital out
of the Touch, as I've got an external DAC.

My Touch is close enough to my router that I have no problem connecting
wired, and I think wired gives better performance anyway.

I don't plan on disconnecting the screen. But if the software mods
improve the sound, why not?

For me the point of the Touch is to give me high quality native
decoding of hi-res from a music server, and give me the user interface
(including browser interface). That's what I need. YMMV.

The hiface is probably a great product. But to use it instead of the
Touch you need a DAC, and some kind of user interface so that you can
acutally play the music.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Non-ASCII unicode, issues or fixes?

2010-06-26 Thread chzhzhang

I have had trouble browsing music folders of USB drive attached to the
Touch that had non-ASCII unicode characters encoded by UTF-8. I think
it has to do with either the setup or the kernel of the Unix coming
with the Touch. When I ssh into the touch, and type ls, it pops up
something like this:
ls ./directory/file
No such file
when either directory or file had accented characters or other
non-ASCII characters. In some cases even I did not see any non-ASCII
characters the file is still reported to be missing.

My question is, is there a modest upper limit for the number of
characters in each file? The characters are showing correctly in my Mac
Terminal or Linux machine, meaning they are correctly encoded in UTF-8.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now Playing/Artwork lags behind

2010-06-26 Thread carib

I just noticed it this morning but I'm running a USB attached hard
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now Playing/Artwork lags behind

2010-06-26 Thread snarlydwarf

I see it occasionally on my Radio, but not clear on how to duplicate
it.

It -seems- to be related to pausing, but I may be imagining that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Internet radio artwork missing

2010-06-26 Thread thunderlips

mullet;556619 Wrote: 
 Just got myself a Touch a couple of days ago and it is a very nice
 little beast. Lovin' it except for one thing. I have a lot of shoutcast
 stations in my favorites and only one shows the artwork, that being
 Radio Paradise. The favorites are stored via mysqueezebox.com
 

I didn't think shoutcast stations displayed artwork.
Radio Paradise does seem to be an exception though.

Have you tried adding your favourite stations using the main search
engine, instead of shoutcast?

For example, GotRadio Blues via shoutcast is...
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=4214

Bit via the main search it is...
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s49671partnerId=16
With this one you should see the station artwork.

I'd be curious to see how this goes.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Internet radio artwork missing

2010-06-26 Thread tcutting

If you use erland's Custom Clock screensaver/helper, it's possible to
setup a screensaver which then can use LastFM images.  I added to my
Radio now playing screensaver.  I've got it setup to alternate
between the album art, and LastFM artist images.  The result is if I
play a radio stream where I don't get artwork (the album art), I
still usually get images from the LastFM artist images.  It's not
perfect in this case - I still see the radio icon, but at least I still
get some interesting images.  If you are using mysqueezebox.com, I'm not
sure if it works (although as an applet, you may be able to setup using
squeezeboxserver, and then it may work after that on Mysqueezebox.com).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now Playing/Artwork lags behind

2010-06-26 Thread Fatman

snarlydwarf;558138 Wrote: 
 I see it occasionally on my Radio, but not clear on how to duplicate
 it.
 
 It -seems- to be related to pausing, but I may be imagining that.

I'm fairly certain it happens to me during every listening session,
pause or no pause.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Audiophile Touch mods - take two

2010-06-26 Thread JohnSwenson

I have been working with tweaks on the Touch, how its used, how to get
the best out of it for quite sometime. I have been primarily focusing
on the analog signals coming out rather than the digital out.
Soundcheck was also working on optimizing the the Touch, he took some
of my stuff and added some more of his own. I have been trying out his
tweaks for awhile as well as my own and combinations of the two. As I
said I was primarily focusing how these have affected the analog outs,
so when I see references to these tweaks that is what automatically
comes to MY mind, tweaks for the analog out.

You are right, his page does talk about them as tweaks for the digital
outs, so yes I could easily see how you could make the assumption that
they are only for the digital outs. I can say that they are very
effective on the analog outs as well. These software tweaks and some
simple hardware changes produce analog outs that are astoundingly good,
IMO way better than anything else you can get for $300.

Now that I see where you are coming from I can comment on the digital
side of things. Yes they DO affect the digital out. Whether you are
going to hear that depends very much on the DAC its driving. Some DACs
have much more imunity to differences on inputs than others.
Unfortunately immunity to input differences does not necessarily go
hand in hand with the best possible sound. 

There are certain methods for improving input immunity that degrade the
sound from all sources. Some DAC designers have deliberately NOT used
these techniques, the result is that using a really good source will
give better sound than any source if using some immunity techniques. So
IF you have one of these DACs that will give exceptionally good results
IF fed from an exceptionally good source, these changes to the Touch
WILL increase the sound quality. Whether the increase in SQ is worth
giving up a local disk or the screen is entirely up to you.

Now on the M2Tech HiFace. I know it well, I know how it works, what it
does and how it performs. I also know the Touch as well. I have plenty
of measurements I've made to back up any listening impressions. The
upshot is that the Touch is actually a better S/PDIF source than the
HiFace (not by a huge amount, they are both well designed devices). I
has slightly lower jitter and does a better job of matching the
impedance specs. 

Does this mean it will always sound better than a HiFace? No it does
not. The truth of the matter is that very few DACs have inputs that
even come close to meeting the S/PDIF pecs. The upshot is that the
source that sounds the best for a given DAC is probably going to be the
one which most closely matches the input characteristics of the
particular DAC, not the one which most closely matches the spec. And
because those input characteristics vary so much, its pretty much a
crap shoot as to what source is going to sound the best. 

For a very good DAC which has a proper input implementation the Touch
is going to be one of the best sources available. These Tweaks make it
even better.

Because of this crap shoot in compatibility between source and input, I
still think someone that is aiming at REALLY good sound would be better
using the Touch's analog outs with these software tweaks and the two
hardware changes (disconnecting the display and bypassing the output
caps). The results are extraordinarily good and would take way more
money to achieve other wise.

BTW the HiFace has two different digital outs, S/PDIF over RCA and
AES/EBU over BNC. There is a thread over in the Audiophile forum
comparing the digital out of the Touch to the BNC out of the HiFace
connected to the BNC input of the Transporter. Note that the BNC out of
the Touch is AES/EBU not S/PDIF. The BNC input of the transporter is
also AES/EBU. Is it any wonder that the transporter sounds better being
fed by a source that is of the type it was designed for? The primary
difference is the voltage level, the S/PDIF out is 0.5V but the AES/EBU
output is 2V. An AES/EBU input will work with the S/PDIF input, but it
works much better with the voltage level it was designed for. I don't
see that as proving the HiFace is inherently better than the Touch,
just that in the configuration tested it more closely matches the input
characteristics of the device being driven.

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Chumby?

2010-06-26 Thread djfake

How does the Chumby sound? Is anyone streaming to it?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Big problem + Choosing usb hd for Touch...

2010-06-26 Thread silvermilnec

ste1;552642 Wrote: 
 Samsung S2 portable - 500gb 2.5 hdd.
 
 works fine for me with 300gb of flac; self powered, silent, small, cool
 running, quick scans, no software obligations, spins down automatically,
 nice Touch-complementing black finish as well.
 
 No major errors yet (fingers crossed).  The only issue I have
 experienced is severe buffering on 24bit/96k flac files - but I beleive
 this is a wider problem and there may be workarounds.

Hi, when you say self powered do you mean it's got it's own plug or
it's powered through the usb? i've just ordered one and i'm sure it's
powered through the usb, i hope yours is though the usb and it works
ok.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Big problem + Choosing usb hd for Touch...

2010-06-26 Thread JohnSwenson

Bus powered means it gets power over the USB bus. Self powered means the
device (disk drive in this case) means it has its own power source other
than the USB bus. 

With the Touch there is an intermediate approach which is to use a
powered hub. The drive can still be bus powered, but the Touch isn't
supplying the power either, it comes from the hub. 

John S.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Guidance Needed

2010-06-26 Thread Astroimage

Hi All, 

I am trying to figure out how to get SBS and the Touch to play back
24/96 WAV files at full resolution. 

When I look in the window on the left in the remote windows interface I
see the following statement Bitrate: 4233kbps CBR (Converted to 705kbps
FLAC). Does this mean that the wave file is being converted to a FLAC?
How do I set it up correctly? 

Brian


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch

2010-06-26 Thread Henry66

I am also interested in the quality of the analog out.

To save money I am thinking of connecting the Touch directly to a power
amp.
The Touch is my only source so a preamp seems superfluous.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time

2010-06-26 Thread peterw

4 days in, the clock on my Touch is now about 22 seconds behind
ntp.ubuntu.com. It's been more than 15 seconds slow for more than 9
hours. slimserver.pl has been running for nearly 5 days. FWIW, my Touch
currently isn't even connected to TinySC as a music source -- but it
sounds like that shouldn't matter, that so long as TinySC is running
(as it is), the clock should drift no more than 15 sec from MySB. I
suppose there's a chance that MySB is  7 seconds off ntp.ubuntu.com,
but that seems pretty unlikely; I have rarely seen more than about 2
sec diff between systems using NTP.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Guidance Needed

2010-06-26 Thread JohnSwenson

You need to connect to your server's webUI and set the file types.
Once you bring up the WebUI click on settings. Then click on the
Advanced tab. Then click on the arrow to the right of the pulldown on
the left (it usually says Formatting to begin with. Select File
Types.

You now have a page that covers a bunch of file types. The left column
is the file type, the middle is the stream type and the right is what
program does the conversion.

So for wav scroll down to WAV in the left column. You should see three
choices for stream type, FLAC, MP3 and PCM. In the right column set
FLAC and MP3 to disabled and PCM to native. Native meens the server
won't do any conversions, it assumes the players will use its native
decoder to decode the stream.

For FLAC you have some choices. You can stream as FLAC or PCM. I
personally think FLAC sounds a little better but others will disagree
on that. Its up to you, try it and see which you like better.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My 24/96 stuttering problems are gone with latest server/firmware

2010-06-26 Thread vinhattieu

chzhzhang;558033 Wrote: 
 Even it said scanning, I don't think scanner is running at all after I
 disabled the autorescan: the database files are not changing, and some
 24/96 files are actually OK. I will try to recode 24/96 flacs back to
 wave and see whether it solves the issue.

Sorry for interrupting, but how do you disable the auto rescan?


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