[SlimDevices: Touch] Can the Touch run off a 6v SLA battery?
Is a 6 volt sealed lead acid battery dangerous to the 5v DC SB Touch? I currently run a 12v dac from a 12v SLA battery and was thinking about doing the same to the Touch. The 12v battery actually supplies 13v-13.8v to my 12v dac without problem and was wondering if the 20% more supply of the 6v over the Touch's 5v is a problem? -- miab miab's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34270 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90769 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + CISCO Power supply?
dangus_yra;661790 Wrote: Thank you all. Any good about TDK-Lambda power supplies? I found this one: Lambda EWS 15-5 Very good high quality supply. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90698 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unusual 96/24 FLAC Problem
cvj;661819 Wrote:
Thanks, I will appreciate that very much!
In custom_convert.conf:
{edit with notepad or wordpad}
flc flc * *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 48k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-b 24 -C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 48000 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
flc flc transcode *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 48k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-b 24 -C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 48000 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
For the Touch anything = 96khz is handled by the first entry, anything
96khz by the second.
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103
- full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5),
Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber
8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tone Controls for SB Touch?
autoformer;661830 Wrote: Ok had a go at installing Inguz. The plug-in appears in my SB Plug-ins panel, and the EQ controls appear in the Extras area of my SB Touch. But changing settings has no effect. A clue is that under file types on the Advanced panel, the Ingus DSP does not appear as an option for the various file types. Does anyone know how to correct this? Thanks! Changing settings doesn't work while the track is playing... you have to stop/restart the track. This is true of any externally pipelined software DSP solution... if you think about it, many packets of adjusted data are already sitting in the players buffer and a change now to the EQ on the server won't/can't alter those packets already sitting on the client... Additionally, the parameters that control Inguz/sox etc are only consulted at start of play, not continuously during playback of a track. However, you say your Filetytpes are not showing Inguz? Have you installed Inguzdsp.exe into your SBS server directory? You have to download that seperately. Can you post the contents of the file custom-convert.conf from the Inguz folder on your server? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90745 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Maverick Audio Tubemagic DAC and Touch
gklainer;661441 Wrote:
What needs to be changed for the workaround?
Thanks,
Gary
To fix all flac replay at 96khz, modify these two entries in your
custom_convert.conf file... (if you don't have one, just create a new
file in the same folder as convert.conf):
Then restart SBS.
flc flc * *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 96k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-b 24 -C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
flc flc transcode *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=rate -v -s 96k}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -v0.965 -t wav - -t wav
-b 24 -C 0 - rate -v -s -M -a 96000 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent -
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103
- full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5),
Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber
8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Two simple ideas to make Touch standalone with TinySBS (and why not SBS ?) acceptable
Created accounts both here and in bugzilla just to vote for: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17545 It's time to make a stand. To Logitech developers: You can only say that something is impossible about the past, not about the future!!! -- bjallemad bjallemad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50277 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90147 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
I see its now available? http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/power-supplies/346-mains-cables-r-us-dc-power-supply.html For the cynics out there, this ain't shilling. :) I've no connection to the manufacturer, I'm just genuinely taken aback by what its done in my system. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Mnyb;661821 Wrote: Interesting idea with the regulator closer, that got me thinking. This problem is solved in another way elsewhere, in industrial aplications. 5v supply for ttl encoders here we are talking maybe 30-100 meters of cable and no desire to put the regulator closer. Here we use a four wire system +,- and sense+,sense- the voltage drop is measured at the piont of consumption but regulated back at the supply. Yeah, that would work too. 30-100m of cable in a domestic situation would be madness though! :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Gazjam;661863 Wrote: Yeah, that would work too. 30-100m of cable in a domestic situation would be madness though! :) It would work on 1 meter to point is that it can be neatly done in one box -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Network drive on the Touch
Hi I have used my Touch since I bought it with a disk drive plugged into the USB without too many issues. However I now have a NAS attached to my router with all my music on it. How do I get the Touch to look at 192.168.1.xx for its music over WiFi. TVM -- Waldo Pepper Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90772 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network drive on the Touch
1. Install Squeezeboxserver on the NAS ,many NAS have SBS as a possible add on or help can be found on this forum to do it. If thats impossible.. 2. Run the server on a computer wich use the NAS for music . 3. Possible but not good (incredible slow ) via some linux wiszardry mount the NAS as a NSF mount via an SD card USB Stick, thats sits in the Touch to provide a mountpoint and lure the internal server into action (it runs only when storage is attached ) . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90772 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Gazjam;661862 Wrote: I see its now available? http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/power-supplies/346-mains-cables-r-us-dc-power-supply.html Any idea if there will be a US supplier of this product? -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
RadioClash;661883 Wrote: Any idea if there will be a US supplier of this product? Don't think so, as the power supply is a custom job, built in house? I think though they deliver to the States? http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/content/1-delivery -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
The text say that he is happy to adapt to 120V and as it has IEC inlet you can provide a suitable power cable yourself -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Two simple ideas to make Touch standalone with TinySBS (and why not SBS ?) acceptable
bjallemad;661848 Wrote: You can only say that something is impossible about the past, not about the future!!! I think noone said impossible. Just very expensive in terms of development cost. And that's the same amount in the past and in the future. -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90147 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Thanks for informing us about this, Gazjam. Would the improvements be noticeable, at least in theory, if one is using the Touch's digital outputs (coax or optical)? Other than my complete and utter lack of electrical knowledge, I ask because sometimes I read that these types of mods/upgrades seem to only have a positive effect if one is using the Touch's analog outs. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via spdif coax Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.1 r33149 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6.1 r9486. Duet: FW 77 r9486. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Before everyone goes off spending their money I would like to point out there is nothing in this thread showing that this works. It is all theoretical. Maybe it is better, maybe it does nothing at all, maybe it is even worse. After thirty some years in the RF and microwave business I've come to not accept anything till it can be shown to work. The output of a power supply should be very easy to measure. I do have to be skeptical about the benefits of a power supply. I work on instruments that have dynamic ranges far beyond that of the human ear. They are packed full of oscillators, clocks and numerous switching power supplies. We also use external switching power supplies to run them. But I'm open to the idea. My one experiment with a linear supply on SB yielded nothing more than a lot of wasted electricity and money. My two cents worth. -- regalma1 regalma1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
regalma1;661894 Wrote: Before everyone goes off spending their money I would like to point out there is nothing in this thread showing that this works. It is all theoretical. Maybe it is better, maybe it does nothing at all, maybe it is even worse. After thirty some years in the RF and microwave business I've come to not accept anything till it can be shown to work. The output of a power supply should be very easy to measure. I do have to be skeptical about the benefits of a power supply. I work on instruments that have dynamic ranges far beyond that of the human ear. They are packed full of oscillators, clocks and numerous switching power supplies. We also use external switching power supplies to run them. But I'm open to the idea. My one experiment with a linear supply on SB yielded nothing more than a lot of wasted electricity and money. My two cents worth. That is actually what I think too an Audiodiffmaker test would be a good thing to do, iPhone did extensive test on the SB3 and could measure that the outputs was always the same regardless of power-supply used . Or a dbt. I have no detailed info on the Touchs design re internal suplies but if it is similar to SB3 the incomming 5v gets transformed to different other voltages by internal switch-mode supplies anyway. There is a quite real possibility that the switch-mode wallvart can disturb other components, an indirect influence . Many audiophiles own very strange equipment it sensitivity to such things can vary greatly. Then this switch vs linear thing is bogus anyway. there are good and bad powersupplies of both kinds . The original slimdevices SB3 220v Eu supply was very shoddy it even have a burning smell around it ;) and was very feeble and cheap ? Linn and Meridian uses switch-mode supply and are not regarded as shoddy designs So their we have the weakness of our discussions OP may have had (or not) some sucess with his PS he thinks so , he shares his experience. We can read and take notes if we ourselfs should want to get another supply. But from this none can really conclude if it works or not it is especially impossible to tranfer to our own situations . I use an CIA 5v supply I used with my SB3 I let it be in the hifi rack when i got my Touch (my SB3 uses the Touch PS ) Can I recommend it ? I don't know, it is not bad that's what I can be certain of and it does transfer to you, it would be not bad for you too. Technically it looks solid. I could not tell you if you get blacker blacks or better midrange separation in your hifi with such supply ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
regalma1;661894 Wrote: Before everyone goes off spending their money I would like to point out there is nothing in this thread showing that this works. It is all theoretical. Maybe it is better, maybe it does nothing at all, maybe it is even worse. After thirty some years in the RF and microwave business I've come to not accept anything till it can be shown to work. The output of a power supply should be very easy to measure. I do have to be skeptical about the benefits of a power supply. I work on instruments that have dynamic ranges far beyond that of the human ear. They are packed full of oscillators, clocks and numerous switching power supplies. We also use external switching power supplies to run them. But I'm open to the idea. My one experiment with a linear supply on SB yielded nothing more than a lot of wasted electricity and money. My two cents worth. Fair point well made, its good to be sceptical. In general principle your experience has taught you to be sceptical and thats good, me too. Specifically though - and not trying to be funny - but how does the instruments you work on (that are outside the range of human hearing)have any bearing on audio equipment? :) The forum here has been round this roundabout a million times though, and I don't want to go down this argument - rather get on with my life. Going by who designed it, trust me, I'm sure this supply measures fantastic. I've done more than one experiment with linear supplies actually and had good and bad results. The point is they CAN MAKE WHAT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO SOUND DIFFERENT. A cheapie I tried (Strontionics I think?) buzzed like a bee, heated the room up and sounded worse than the stock supply. ..and that was on my SB3. SO not all linear supplies (like switchers) are not equal. I'm a skeptic on a tight budget so colour me sceptical about such things. Thing is, this supply HAS been shown to work...it made my digital source sound a helluva lot more involving, musical and enjoyable than before. How do you measure that? ;) I don't know what a power supply sounds like and I dont care to honestly. :) Its the final result that comes out my speakers and hits my ears that matters and this made that experience a whole lot better. I mentioned that it made my hifi addictive again... its about musical enjoyment and its better becasue of this psu. In my book thats it being shown to work. As I said, I'm not trying to justify anything or get drawn into debate, just passing on my experience. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Mnyb;661903 Wrote: That is actually what I think too an Audiodiffmaker test would be a good thing to do, iPhone did extensive test on the SB3 and could measure that the outputs was always the same regardless of power-supply used . Or a dbt. I have no detailed info on the Touchs design re internal suplies but if it is similar to SB3 the incomming 5v gets transformed to different other voltages by internal switch-mode supplies anyway. There is a quite real possibility that the switch-mode wallvart can disturb other components, an indirect influence . Many audiophiles own very strange equipment it sensitivity to such things can vary greatly. Then this switch vs linear thing is bogus anyway. there are good and bad powersupplies of both kinds . The original slimdevices SB3 220v Eu supply was very shoddy it even have a burning smell around it ;) and was very feeble and cheap ? Linn and Meridian uses switch-mode supply and are not regarded as shoddy designs So their we have the weakness of our discussions OP may have had (or not) some sucess with his PS he thinks so , he shares his experience. We can read and take notes if we ourselfs should want to get another supply. But from this none can really conclude if it works or not it is especially impossible to tranfer to our own situations . I use an CIA 5v supply I used with my SB3 I let it be in the hifi rack when i got my Touch (my SB3 uses the Touch PS ) Can I recommend it ? I don't know, it is not bad that's what I can be certain of and it does transfer to you, it would be not bad for you too. Technically it looks solid. I could not tell you if you get blacker blacks or better midrange separation in your hifi with such supply ? Good post. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
We make vector network analyzers and spectrum analyzers. They are designed to measure signals over very wide frequency bands, anywhere from near DC to 40 GHz. Any noise or distortion that a clock or switching power supply created would be detected and displayed on the instrument. Their frequencies are within the measurement bands of the instruments. That is why their dynamic range is relevant. -- regalma1 regalma1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
I don't know what regalma! does for work , but i think he implies that what he does needs more precision than audio and human hearing is not a good measure of electronics performance . EE is a part of physics and there is only one set, so a low noise PS for a scientific instrument would be a good thing too noise is noise . The same function is used everywhere amplifier is not for audio only you can amplify all kinds of signals. Audio is just an electrical signal when it is inside the analog part of our hifi equipment or information when it is digital . Audio is just special case of EE designs for Electrical signals and information. The fallacy of audiophilia is that they think that special case is most demanding and very very special, it is not. Other parts of Electrical engineering is probably rocket science for real the state of the art is not in audio. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Oops regalma vent first , my post was irrelevant . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Not saying its not relevant, I'm just trying to suggest that its not all about measurements... the ear/brain/enjoyment thing is harder to quantify. Was just passing on my experience which was NOT a subtle improvement...something or a combination of somethings are improving the overall final sound quality. The stock Touch supply is not supposed to inject a lot of noise into the mains so I'm not sure its just a case of removing the last of the switchers from my system... As someone said, try or don't try, whatever works. There are of course other psu's out there for the Touch,some cheaper some WAY more expensive. To me £150 GBP is about my limit of diminishing returns. I try to buy sensible, not the cheapest but dont throw money at something just because its high end and SUPPOSED to be better. If I hear it for myself and its value for money - its a bargain. That, for me...works. Other folk may want to spend less, more or nothing at all. All I'm saying is that this wasn't a subtle improvement over the Stock supply and musical enjoyment is a lot better. Enough free advertising, its good, end of. :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
After reading your last post I reread your original one. I had somehow missed that you had actually heard a Touch with this new power supply. You state that in your first sentence. That pretty much negates what I have written. My comments were based on the understanding that were responding to what the designer had written, not your own experience. Sorry. I'm still skeptical though. There must be so much electronic noise generated inside the touch it would seem that a little bit carried in over the external power supply would hardly matter. But, that is just educated conjecture on my part. Heck, I use to think that speaker cables couldn't make much difference. Maybe someday I'll get motivated to look into this more. I have a couple of ideas to reduce the variables involved. -- regalma1 regalma1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Gazjam;661902 Wrote: Yup, I use my Touch straight into a Dac via SPDIF. The improvement is with digital, didnt try analogue as I've software modded my Touch to switch off all outputs except SPDIF. Thanks, same here.I'll save my pennies and put it on my list of stuff to try! -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.1 r33149 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6.1 r9486. Duet: FW 77 r9486. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
regalma1;661960 Wrote: After reading your last post I reread your original one. I had somehow missed that you had actually heard a Touch with this new power supply. You state that in your first sentence. That pretty much negates what I have written. My comments were based on the understanding that were responding to what the designer had written, not your own experience. Sorry. I'm still skeptical though. There must be so much electronic noise generated inside the touch it would seem that a little bit carried in over the external power supply would hardly matter. But, that is just educated conjecture on my part. Heck, I use to think that speaker cables couldn't make much difference. Maybe someday I'll get motivated to look into this more. I have a couple of ideas to reduce the variables involved. Not a problem, none needed :) The big long wordy review bit at the start was all my own subjective findings about how it improved my system. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Gazjam;661967 Wrote: Go for it! Soundchecks mods and the other set of mods really make a difference, even with digital out into a dac. oh, and it HAS been measured ;) By whom? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experiences TinySC on 7.6
I left it on the network and went to vacation. After returning ' found it is on 7.6.9486 - which caused me a lot of trouble and why I reverted to latest 7.5. I used to be prompted regularly to upgrade to 7.6.9486 but it never happened without my intervention. I also did a revert to previous version (successfully) but one restart later it was again on 7.6. (!!!) ' Anyone anything? -- congole congole's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89167 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
John Swenson measured differences on a scope with some of Klaus' mods applied. Speak to Klaus... No agenda here Phil. :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
Gazjam;661993 Wrote: John Swenson measured differences with some of Klaus' mods applied. Speak to Klaus... No agenda here Phil. :) I recall these measurements were on touch analog out only. -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop SbS 7.6.2 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] linear power supplies, done right can improve the Touch.
really? I didn't know that. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
