Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread Triode

Bei wrote: 
> Hi Triode,
> 
> I'm trying to use the "CMEDIA CM6610 USB-to-coaxial DDC" for connecting
> Squeezebox Touch to DAC.
> 
> I have selected the "USB-Audio CMEDIA" under Ditigal Output in SBT.
> However, there's no sound when playing the music.
> 
> According to the result of aplay -l, the CMEDIA contains 3
> sub-device(0,1,2) outputs. 
> 
> Thus, could you please advise that whether EDO supports selecting the
> sub-device individually. Many Thanks!
> 
> 
> # cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [TXRX   ]: MXC_SPDIF - MXC SPDIF TX/RX
> MXC Freescale with SPDIF
> 1 [Audio  ]: USB-Audio - USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio
> CMEDIA USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio at
> usb-fsl-ehci.0-1, high speed
> 2 [fab4   ]: fab4 - fab4
> fab4 (ak4420)
> 3 [fab4_1 ]: fab4 - fab4
> fab4 (wm8974)
> # aplay -l
>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> card 0: TXRX [MXC SPDIF TX/RX], device 0: MXC_SPDIF [MXC_SPDIF]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: Audio [USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio], device 0: USB Audio
> [USB Audio]
> Subdevices: 0/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: Audio [USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio], device 1: USB Audio
> [USB Audio #1]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: Audio [USB2.0 High-Speed True HD Audio], device 2: USB Audio
> [USB Audio #2]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 2: fab4 [fab4], device 0: fab4-ak4420 []
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

The EDO applet does not allow you to select subdevices directly, but you
could edit the settings file to use a subdevice.  I would use aplay
first to prove you can play to the DAC and work out what the device name
needs to be.  (put a 24bit wav file on an sd card and then play direct
from it using aplay to work this out)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread Triode

jono338 wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I've just purchased a new Touch, and loaded everything up ... except
> when I play through the touch the sound is completely distorted.
> 
> I was previously running my music to a Transporter, but that died (in
> the most frustrating way ... everything looked like it was working ...
> except no music .. ugh).
> 
> Anyway, I'm running ...
> 
> Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14 05:47:42 PDT
> 2012
> 
> and the touch
> 
> Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
> Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663
> 
> I'm trying to play to a Schiit Gungnir (upto 192/24 capable). When I
> play directly to the DAC from my laptop (with the Schiit drivers) it
> plays like a dream.
> 
> When I go into the advanced digital output thing, I can see the DAC and
> the info it displays is 
> 
> Status: Running
> Speed: High
> Connection: Direct
> Type: Async
> Frequency: 48000Hz (<- this number bounces around a little bit)
> Format: S32_LE
> Rates: 44100,48000,88200,96000,192000
> Feeback format: None
> Interval: 125 us
> 
> 
> Ah ... I think I'm finding the problem ... it's getting the frequency
> wrong ... it was 48000 after I played a 44100 track. THen I played a
> 96000 track and the Touch said the frequency was 88200!
> 
> 
> frustratedly
> Jon

This problem sounds similar to one seen with a Tenor device - in that
case one of the experimental kernels helped - could you search the USB
Dac experiements thread and look at the options posted there to try
alternative kernels.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH

2012-10-12 Thread garym

Mnyb wrote: 
> Or both , server and player on static adresses.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH

2012-10-12 Thread Mnyb

Or both , server and player on static adresses.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread garym

Is anyone using EDO with a Benchmark DAC (in particular one of their
DACs with USB)? They have a new DAC coming out as well.
http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/dac/dac2-hgc

I have an older Benchmark DAC I that I'm fond of.  I use with a touch,
but it is pre-USB. I use the S/PDIF connection from TOUCH.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble switching mysqueezebox and library

2012-10-12 Thread Mnyb

It is usually automatic provided you don't do anything with it .

But if you try to use it it will try to wake the server and maybe give
an error message while your waiting.

However if you starts listening to an app or radio when the local server
is unavaible you notice that it switches over to mysqueezebox.com ,
logitechs online server somthat you can have radio or whatever you
wanted to listen to.

When you want to go back to your local server you chose "my music" on
the player .

Or it should be aviable in the player tab in the web-UI anyway as being
" on mysqueezebox.com" and you should be able to switch it back , but
that only works if you have the correct mysqueezebox.com login set in
your local server and it is able to conect to Internet ! To query
mysqueezebox.com if any of your players are there .

What browser do you use ? a reload of the page may be needed ? Ime 
Firefox works very well with LMS .

If deliberately want to switch to mysqueezebox.com even if the local
server is running there is a menu for that tucked away in the settings
somewhere , this menu can be moved to your home menu , just use hold
your finger on it and the context menu pops up and you have an option
for that .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread Zonker92

Thanks.  It's been months since I've gone into those settings, so I've
totally forgotten where they are (too many menus and submenus for me). 
I'll check.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread jono338

The screen where you select the DAC as digital output.

Once the DAC is selected, when you go back to that screen it has the
name of the DAC with [info] after it... if you select it, it shows a
screen with all that data.

J



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble switching mysqueezebox and library

2012-10-12 Thread Theaetetus

An update:

I was looking around in the advanced settings just now, and went to the
player tab where my Touch wasn't being seen.  I assumed that was because
the power on it was off, but when I went to check it the power was on (I
had just come home from work, and my daughter said it turned on by
itself).  Even with it on, and after a couple of refreshings, the Touch
still didn't appear.

I selected 'My Music' on the unit and it connected with the Library.  I
refreshed the page again, and the player now shows up.

I could see how my problem with getting audio might be because the Touch
needs to re-connect with the Library, but in the case I describe in my
original post, I select 'My Music' and the Touch says it connects with
the Library, but still no audio.  It takes a power on/off to get it to
work.

Is there a setting to keep it connected to the Library?

I just now occurs to me that my library is on my laptop (Macbook), which
is off most of the day.  Is the problem on the server end?  I do always
make sure that LMS is running before starting the Touch, so I assumed
the connection would be automatic.  Am I wrong?

Thanks again, everyone, for your help!

In the meantime, I'll keep fiddling with it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH

2012-10-12 Thread JohnSwenson

Waldo Pepper wrote: 
> I have never got DHCP to work with my Logitech devices so have been on
> fixed IP since day one. I assume the router will not DHCP out IP's
> assigned that are fixed. Does this have to be set up manually as I have
> never bothered and does it assign from the lowest address upwards? My
> laptop/netbook and tablet all work fine with DHCP.
> 

The DHCP server doesn't know about the  fixed addresses, you have to
explicitely assign IP addresses that are not in the "pool" the DHCP
server uses. The only way tofind out what addresses the DHCP servere
uses is to log in to the router  and go to the DHCP configuration page.


For example my router uses 100-200 as the DHCP pool, so stuff below 100
and  above 200 are fair game for static addresses. But some routers will
use 2-200 as the pool, others use 100-254 as the pool, so there is no
way to choose something that is guaranteed to work, you have to find out
what  your  router is  doing. On most routers you can change it to
whatever you want, so even if your SB stuff is in  the  pool you can
change the  pool.

There is another issue, if the computer running LMS is running DHCP,
some routers  will change the IP address every time it renews the  DHCP
lease. In some environments this changing IP address of the server can
cause the players to not find the server. To get around  this problem I
set my server to a fixed address and let DHCP set  the address of the
players, for  me this seems to work much better than the server address
changing and  the players being fixed. 

John S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH

2012-10-12 Thread Waldo Pepper

JohnSwenson wrote: 
> First I'd like to make it clear in my own mind what your setup looks
> like, it sounds like you have a Touch, running TinyLMS with a USB stick
> containing the music library. The Radios connect to the TinyLMS on the
> Touch via Wifi. Is the Touch the only LMS?

Correct. I only have one LMS, the TOUCH. 

> It sounds like the problem is the Radios not being able to connect to
> the TinyLMS on the Touch, correct? When this happens, can the Touch
> still play music? 
No. The whole system needs rebooting.

> If the Touch can still play music then Tiny LMS is still running, and 
> the problem is most likely a network issue. 


> I can think of two probable causes, one  is  just wifi connectivity 
> issues, but that would tend to not be exactly the  same for the  two
> Radios (unless they are right next to each other).
The radios are on separate floors and the TOUCH is on the ground floor
in another separate room.

> The other is DHCP issues. I've seen this  before, the devices all get
> leases from the DHCP server when they boot and everything  is fine, but
> then some hours later the leases expire and they don't get renewed, thus
> the router won't talk to them. Two common reasons for this are a router
> that has been on for a long time (for some reason some DHCP servers seem
> to get slower and slower the longer the router is on) and interference
> on the wifi link can cause the DHCP server to time out. 

I have never got DHCP to work with my Logitech devices so have been on
fixed IP since day one. I assume the router will not DHCP out IP's
assigned that are fixed. Does this have to be set up manually as I have
never bothered and does it assign from the lowest address upwards? My
laptop/netbook and tablet all work fine with DHCP.

> The first thing to try is to reboot the network: modem, router,
> switches, WAPs etc.  This frequently will fix the problem. If it
> doesn't, try temporarily connecting a Radio to the network with a wire
> and see if the problem persists. 

Next thing to try. Thanks for the prompt reply.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread Zonker92

Sorry to hear that; I don't have any suggestions.  But I am curious: 
How do you access that information you mentioned about the frequency
etc.?  I didn't know about that feature.  Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-10-12 Thread jono338

Hi,

I've just purchased a new Touch, and loaded everything up ... except
when I play through the touch the sound is completely distorted.

I was previously running my music to a Transporter, but that died (in
the most frustrating way ... everything looked like it was working ...
except no music .. ugh).

Anyway, I'm running ...

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14 05:47:42 PDT
2012

and the touch

Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663

I'm trying to play to a Schiit Gungnir (upto 192/24 capable). When I
play directly to the DAC from my laptop (with the Schiit drivers) it
plays like a dream.

When I go into the advanced digital output thing, I can see the DAC and
the info it displays is 

Status: Running
Speed: High
Connection: Direct
Type: Async
Frequency: 48000Hz (<- this number bounces around a little bit)
Format: S32_LE
Rates: 44100,48000,88200,96000,192000
Feeback format: None
Interval: 125 us


Ah ... I think I'm finding the problem ... it's getting the frequency
wrong ... it was 48000 after I played a 44100 track. THen I played a
96000 track and the Touch said the frequency was 88200!


frustratedly
Jon



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the squeezebox be used as a USB DAC?

2012-10-12 Thread bpa

Mnyb wrote: 
> But there is wav input plugin, but this aproach is unsiutable for movies
> the delay is severe.
Waveinput is not available for all OSs.

Rather than "delay is severe" I think unpredictable - some users have
got it down to about 0.25-0.5 sec whereas for others it resolutely stays
at 5 or more secs.

There are some app which can play movies and a user can adjust the
video/audio timing (e.g. mplayer, vlc ?) but they are not for all users
and there is no guarantee that the audio sync with video will be
achieved.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can the squeezebox be used as a USB DAC?

2012-10-12 Thread Mnyb

No it cant bes used as an USB dac .

But there is wav input plugin, but this aproach is unsiutable for movies
the delay is severe.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble switching mysqueezebox and library

2012-10-12 Thread Mnyb

it is also very evident when the mysqueezebox.com integrsation does not
work , no apps and very limited radio menu ! when connected to the local
server



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble switching mysqueezebox and library

2012-10-12 Thread toby10

Theaetetus wrote: 
>   I just saw that when I went back to the account tab in LMS the
> password field was reset, and it behaved as before (i.e., I had to
> manually re-enter the password before getting verification).  Could this
> be the problem?

As astoundingly stupid as it sounds, the MySB.com password field being
blank is correct.  :)

What you want to look for on that LMS settings page is any mention of
"invalid".  If no mention of "invalid" then everything is likely AOK
with LMS seeing MySB.com.  Another place to look for diagnosis is on the
LMS > Control Panel > Diagnostics, look for anything odd with pings,
ports, IP's.



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[SlimDevices: Touch] Can the squeezebox be used as a USB DAC?

2012-10-12 Thread matthieu_ber

Hi

Let's say I have a squeezebox touch connected to my stereo amplifier and
I can play my music from my laptop in good conditions, using the dac of
the squeezebox.

What solutions do I have to stream the music of the movie I watch on my
laptop on the same stereo system ?

I read that streaming the sound of the movie via the squeezebox will
work but there will be a delay which means that the images of the movie
and the sound of the movie will not be synchronized. I don't mind using
a USB or any wired connection to the squeezebox to avoid delay. But I
would like to avoid directly pluging my laptop to the amplifier without
using an external DAC because I believe the sound will not be good using
the soundcard of my laptop and a jack.

Any suggestions?


thanks



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