Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR sensor ALMOST dead - any cure?

2015-02-25 Thread Gandhi

paf wrote: 
 THE TECHNICAL SIDE
 A SqueezeBox Radio just next to the Touch works perfectly with the same
 remotes == it is definitively a problem in the Touch.
 Yes, IR sensors are usually very reliable, but the failure can be
 anywhere in the chain between the photodiode/transistor and the digital
 signal, so there are some possibilities. And it seems that the IR
 sensors of the SB Touch do fail (see the other messages in this
 thread).
 
 == the only chance I see of solving the problem without schematics is
 if the SB Touch used an integrated IR receiver module (i.e. an IR diode,
 amplifier, filter with digital output all in a package) which I could
 replace. Anybody knows if it is the case?

These are the only pictures I've ever found of the inner life of the
Touch:
http://diyparadise.com/blogs/2010/05/08/opened-up-the-squeezebox-touch/
There you'll also find instructions for how to open it up.

I have no Touch, but the IR sensor is probably the little module at
approximately top left on the first and second picture. Perhaps you
could verify this by looking for a suitable hole on the front panel.

I have no idea what the kind/make/model of the module is, though. You'll
probably have to open the Touch up and see for yourself, but obviously
there's no guarantee of finding a comprehensible marking anyway.

Good luck!



Best Regards,
Gandhi

not often enough well recorded and mastered cds *|* dbpoweramp with
accuraterip *|* flac *|* fanless asrock z77e-itx intel i5-3570t *|*
ubuntu 12.04.1 lts 32-bit *|* lms 7.8.0 *|* brutefirdrc 3.0 (rewv5) *|*
transporter (balanced out) *|* thule ia252b *|* audio physic scorpio *|*
no fancy cables. *+* also some booms. *+* harmony 525s for them all,
including waking the server from s3.

Gandhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58909
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103192

___
Touch mailing list
Touch@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch


Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR sensor ALMOST dead - any cure?

2015-02-25 Thread paf

THE TECHNICAL SIDE
A SqueezeBox Radio just next to the Touch works perfectly with the same
remotes == it is definitively a problem in the Touch.
Yes, IR sensors are usually very reliable, but the failure can be
anywhere in the chain between the photodiode/transistor and the digital
signal, so there are some possibilities. And it seems that the IR
sensors of the SB Touch do fail (see the other messages in this
thread).

== the only chance I see of solving the problem without schematics is
if the SB Touch used an integrated IR receiver module (i.e. an IR diode,
amplifier, filter with digital output all in a package) which I could
replace. Anybody knows if it is the case?

THE COMMERCIAL SIDE
I asked the local Logitech office (here in Switzerland) and got the
answer, that


- they don't repair or replace devices which are out of warrany
- they don't give any technical information (e.g. schematics) which
  would allow a third party to repair such a device
- but I could try to ask a repair service (but how would they know how
  to repair without any documentation?)
  
For the last 20 years I believed that Logitech had great hardware and an
excellent service but now I realise that I was wrong.

So... bye bye Logitech :mad:

If anybody knows an alternative to the SB Touch (network player and
radio with big display, no amplifier and more reliable software than the
Logitech Media Server), please let me know!

Regards
Patrick



paf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37577
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103192

___
Touch mailing list
Touch@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch


Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR sensor ALMOST dead - any cure?

2015-02-25 Thread Grumpy Bob

paf wrote: 
 THE TECHNICAL SIDE
 A SqueezeBox Radio just next to the Touch works perfectly with the same
 remotes == it is definitively a problem in the Touch.
 Yes, IR sensors are usually very reliable, but the failure can be
 anywhere in the chain between the photodiode/transistor and the digital
 signal, so there are some possibilities. And it seems that the IR
 sensors of the SB Touch do fail (see the other messages in this
 thread).
 
 == the only chance I see of solving the problem without schematics is
 if the SB Touch used an integrated IR receiver module (i.e. an IR diode,
 amplifier, filter with digital output all in a package) which I could
 replace. Anybody knows if it is the case?
 
 THE COMMERCIAL SIDE
 I asked the local Logitech office (here in Switzerland) and got the
 answer, that
 

  - they don't repair or replace devices which are out of warrany
  - they don't give any technical information (e.g. schematics) which
   would allow a third party to repair such a device
  - but I could try to ask a repair service (but how would they know
   how to repair without any documentation?)
 
 For the last 20 years I believed that Logitech had great hardware and
 an excellent service but now I realise that I was wrong.
 
 So... bye bye Logitech :mad:
 
 If anybody knows an alternative to the SB Touch (network player and
 radio with big display, no amplifier and more reliable software than
 the Logitech Media Server), please let me know!
 
 Regards
 Patrick

Do you actually need to use the remote? I find the LMS WebUI or the apps
for iOS and Android to be superior.
An alternative to the SB Touch with a big display would be an iPad with
iPeng or SqueezePad, with the in-app purchase of playback. No IR, of
course, but you can use the iOS or Android apps to control it.

Robert



Touch  DacMagic 100  Naim Audio Nait 3  Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar
3 and Naim CD3)
2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3
SqueezePad, iPeng, Squeezeplay, piCorePlayer/HiFiBerry,
piCorePlayerDacMagic XS
QNAP TS-239, LMS 7.9
last.fm/user/GrumpyBob

Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103192

___
Touch mailing list
Touch@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch


Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR sensor ALMOST dead - any cure?

2015-02-25 Thread fcm4711

Hi guys

I can confirm that the IR sensor is at the top left corner of SB Touch
as Gandhi already suspected. From what I can tell it's the same /
similar little module that was used in SliMP3, Squeezebox 1 and 2, SB
Classic, SB Boom, Transporter, SB Radio and Smart Radio too. The module
itself only filters out the IR carrier which is around 38kHz.

If you have ruled out other sources that might interfere with IR like
neon lights, TV sets, etc. I probably would take SB Touch apart and try
IR without the front cover to see if maybe the front cover somehow is
diminishing the IR signal. (Some dust maybe or some other deposit on the
plastic.)

After that I would try to replace the IR module with a similar one. They
all seem to have the same pinout.
Pin 1 = IR out
Pin 2 = VCC
Pin 3 = GND

Felix



Programming is the art of cleverly arranging bits and bytes. - (c) Felix
Mueller

fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103192

___
Touch mailing list
Touch@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch