[SlimDevices: Touch] Can't access SB Touch via WLAN since upgrading to Win10
Hello everybody, my SBT refuses to listen to me... Every once in a while I used to connect my PC to the SBT (via WLAN) to update/extend my music collection residing on the SBT (USB stick). Usually this worked fine. However, since I upgraded my PC from Win7 to Win10 (x64), I cannot anymore connect to the SBT. Error message on PC is something like: "Connection not accepted by remote device". On the other hand, if I run the Logitech Media Server residing on my PC, the SBT itself connects to my PC and I can, without any problem, switch the SBT from using its own "tiny" server to using the Logitech server on my PC. So one way it works fine, and that most likely means it's generally working. It's probably only an incorrect setting on my PC which prevents me to directly contact the box. Does anybody of you folks have an idea where to search for those critical settings? Thanks for your helping, Peter ---- psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106157 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TOUCH: Immer noch das gleiche Problem mit den Favoriten...
Danke für die Hinweise!
Ja, in den letzten Jahren erlebte ich genau das, was Du beschreibst:
Nach Neustart Favoriten von mysqueezebox.com. Nach einigen Tagen
Favoriten wieder vom internen System, stabil. Seit etwa einem
Vierteljahr geschieht letzteres jedoch nicht mehr...
Beim Überprüfen (Hauptmenü --> "USB-Gerät" --> "Logitech Media Server")
stellt sich 'raus, dass derzeit tatsächlich der interne Server
("Squeezebox Server") läuft. Unter den Favoriten werden aber nach wie
vor die, die auf mysqueezebox.com gespeichert sind, angezeigt. Und was
mich - neuerdings - irritiert: Auch neu angelegte Favoriten landen
gleich auf mysqueezebox.com, nicht lokal.
Probehalber habe ich dann unterhalb des Menüpunktes "USB-Gerät"
umgeschaltet auf den LMServer, der auf meinem Desktop installiert ist.
Funktioniert einwandfrei, die Box zeigt die Favoriten an, die auf der
Desktop-Version gespeichert sind. Zurück zum internen LMServer:
Funktioniert, aber Favoriten werden wie vorher von mysqueezebox.com
bezogen...
Technisch wäre ein Umstieg auf einen eigenen Server (wie von Dir
vorgeschlagen) sicher eine gute Lösung. Aber ich scheue den
Bastel-Aufwand...
Peter
Hast Du noch Ideen?
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[SlimDevices: Touch] TOUCH: Immer noch das gleiche Problem mit den Favoriten...
Guten Tag, ich nutze meine Touch (SW: fab4_7.8.0_r16754) mit ihrem internen "Tiny-"Server. Meine Musiksammlung liegt auf einer USB-Platte, die an die Touch angeschlossen ist. Alle meine Favoriten sind Radiostationen, auf der Touch angelegt und dort gespeichert. Parallel dazu habe ich auch auf mysqueezebox.com vor Zeiten 'mal die wichtigsten Favoriten - sozusagen als Sicherheit - angelegt. Jetzt passiert folgendes: Jedesmal, wenn ich etwas an der Musiksammlung ändere und dann ein Neu-Scan fällig wird, bietet mir die Touch hinterher NUR NOCH die Favoriten von mysqueezebox.com an - die "eigenen" übersieht sie (sie existieren aber noch, wie sich über WinSCP leicht feststellen läßt). Wenn ich dann Glück habe, erinnert sich die Touch einige/viel Zeit später an die "eigenen", und bietet sie mir wieder an... Nun könnte man sagen "was soll's...", aber da bin ich eigen: Die "eigenen" werden nämlich in der internen Liste als URL für die Radiostation UND als URL für das Senderlogo gespeichert und so auch in der Liste der Favoriten angezeigt (also hier schon inklusive einem Thumbnail des Logos) - sieht einfach toll aus (finde ich...). Von mysqueezebox.com bekomme ich hingegen nur die URL der Radiostationen geliefert, und folglich sieht die Liste dieser Favoriten auf dem Display meiner Touch so aus, wie 1975 der Bildschirm einer IBM-Großrechneranlage... Wie könnte ich sicher stellen, dass die SBT ihre "internen" Favoriten nimmt? Kann ich vielleicht die SBT auch ohne Verbindung zu mysqueezebox.com betreiben??? Dank für Tipps! LG, Peter ---- psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105506 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT: How to switch Media Servers?
Tks - works fine! Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103487 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SBT: How to switch Media Servers?
I've been using my Touch now for several years - but I'm still having problems getting along with the dynamic menues. To me it looks like menue entries jump between menue positions just as they like, appear, disappear... Usually, I work off the internal Media Server of the Touch. Today, however, I want to switch the Touch to use the Media Server running on my desktop pc. Both are connected via WLAN. The technical setup works since years. But where on the Touch's menue is the command to connect to different server??? (Yes, I know it works, I've done it several times...) Please, experts, help! Txs, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103487 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT: Favorites stored on the Touch not accessible anymore
High, Michael, mherger wrote: Did you change the storage medium connected to the Touch? Favorites would be stored there, not on the Touch itself. Actually, the favorites which are links to radio stations seem to be stored on the Touch itself. I can access the appropriate Unix folder there and even modify the URL links... Anyway, I found a solution to my problem... It sounds like magic: I was playing around with the Touch's menues, hoping to find a hint. As the menues are dynamic, they look different (to me) each time, and I can never remember which command used to be placed where. This time I somewhere came across a menue item which was titled: Ordering scheme for artists (or something like this; my Touch works in German...). Couriously, I open this item and - voilá - there was a message like: you are working off the wrong database to do what you intend to do. Please change to the media dateabase on the Touch! Which I did... I'm happy for the moment. And I have NO IDEA, why this worked this way... Thanks, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SBT: Favorites stored on the Touch not accessible anymore
Hi, my Touch works off its local media server. A local USB disk stores my music collection. Also I store favorites (only links to radio stations) on the local server. Since some time (and several reboots) my Touch shows only those favorites i had stored earlier on mysqueezebox.com - but not the ones I had been using for the last years and stored on the Touch. I know how I can switch between the local server and the one on mysqueezebox.com - but I have no idea how I could make the Touch show again the local favorites (switching back and forth between various SW builds of 7.7 and 7.8 did not help). Does anybody has an idea of what I should be doing here??? Tks for any advice, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101424 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to local favorites
Hi, friends! My Touch works off a locally attaches USB drive with my music data base. Most of my favorites are also stored locally (in my case, only radio stations), and the list of favorites also shows a link to those favorites stored on mysqueezebox.com (just in case...). This worked fine. Untill I update the software to v7.8. The problem now: I can only access my favorites stored at mysqueezebox.com. The ones stored on the Touch just do not appear on the favorites list. I think, though, this is not a problem of v7.8 (I went back to v7.6, and the problem continued). I rather believe I just don't know how to activate my local favorites links. Can anyone of you pls give me an appropriate hint? Tx so much, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101048 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to make SBTouch appear under Network (Win7 Explorer)???
jimbobvfr400 wrote: You could map it drive and give it a drive letter, that way it'll appear in the same place as your other drives. Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 Tks, works fine! psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99339 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to make SBTouch appear under Network (Win7 Explorer)???
lrossouw wrote: For example: //192.168.1.123/ Almost :-)) \\192.168.1.123 worked fine - thanks!!! psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99339 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] How to make SBTouch appear under Network (Win7 Explorer)???
Good Morning! My Touch usually works off its own internal server, the music is stored on an attached USB disk. All works fine, so far. Every once in a while I have some new music, which I want to put on the Touch. So, on my PC running Win7, I open the Squeezebox entry under Network in the windows explorer, there I open the the local music data base, and then copy the new pieces on to this directory. After a while, the Touch shows the new songs under New Music). Great. Most of the time. However, every once in a while my PC does not show the Touch in the explorer under Network. I have no idea why. Nevertheless, during this time the Touch is communicating with my PC. If I want I even can switch it to use the media server I have installed on my PC. All seems to work exactly as supposed - just no visual sign of it... I am looking for a method to force Windows to show this device again, to do again what I described above. Can anyone of you give me helpfull tips? Thanks in advance, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99339 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to get Wi-fi access to the Touch?
Tks, John, for the hint! Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98455 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch: Artists sorting?
Zombie wrote: Use another ARTIST field with Presley, Elvis Tks - but: Would fix my problem with the artist sort list. But at the expense of a now playing screen on the touch showing as artist Presley, Elvis, Elvis Presley. Don't think that's it... Any other idea? psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch: Artists sorting?
Good morning! I want my SB to show the music titles played with artist names in the normal way: First name first, like Elvis Presley. Therefore, my music is tagged with artist names in this format. In addition (but not replacing), when displaying and browsing the list of artists, I would like artist names to be shown with their last name first, like Presley, Elvis. Yet, I have not been able to find out how this could be achieved (could it?). Using the ARTISTSORT Tag results in Elvis Presley to be shown additionally as Elvis Presley, but under P... Do you have any ideas that would help me? Txs, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to add radio URL to SB Touch?
garym wrote: I don't use the TOUCH's built in server, but assuming it works like regular LMS, within the FAVORITES, it shows an item On Mysqueezebox.com where you can access favorites that are stored on mysqueezebox.com. If that is true, then you can go to mysqueezebox.com, sign in, go to favorites, add the URL as one of the favorites there. Thank you, garym! I shall do just the way you suggested. Tks all, and bye... Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to add radio URL to SB Touch?
Tks, guys, for your efforts! Yes, I know the complete streaming URL of the station I am interested in. toby10 wrote: Touch Internet Radio Tune In My Touch offers, in the Main Menu, the commands 'Radio' and 'TuneIn Radio', no 'Internet Radio'. Under 'Radio' no possibility to enter a URL. Under 'TuneIn Radio' I find: Local Radio, Music, News, Sports, Talks, Places, Languages, Search TuneIn, Podcasts. Here, under 'Search TuneIn', I can search for station names. (Above command names are translated fron German, as my Touch works in German. The original US English commands may look a bit different.) Where exactly should I find the command allowing entering of a URL, toby10? Rgds, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] How to add radio URL to SB Touch?
Good morning! I'm using the internal server of the Touch, together with my music collection on a USB stick. My stored favorites on the Touch are a handful of radio stations. Now I want to add an additional radio station to this list. However, as I can not find this station with the search process offered by the Touch, I will have to add the URL of the life stream manually (I think...). But: I can't find out how can this be done :-( Can someone pls help me? Tks for any advice, Peter psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97858 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Radio stations logo icons on the Touch?
Correction: The file on the internal Touch server I referred to should read favorites.opml - not server.prefs. @castalla Cold reboot didn't help. -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93441 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Plugins on the Tiny SBS?
Thanks for clarifying! Peter -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92971 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Plugins on the Tiny SBS?
Hi, I've been reading about all the plugins available for the Touch. However, all the advices/installation hints given there seem to relate to the PC based Media Server. Can anyone pls help me understand if plugins (all? none?) work on the Tiny Server as well, and how one would install them there. Thanks! -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92971 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Accessing favorites on SBS - accessing favorites on MySB
Tks anyway... I shall re-install an older firmware for the touch, and then work my my way up to the latest firmware - hoping that the problem will vanish on the way... -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91962 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Accessing favorites on SBS - accessing favorites on MySB
toby10;673654 Wrote: I assume you want to use the Touch's own server, not a computer running the server program, correct? Yes - as I said above. 2. will immediately display Artists, Albums, etc... (means Touch is connected to it's server) That's what happens. And nevertheless: When I press Favorites on the remote to select one of those, I'm directed to favorites on MySB - no choice. The same if I want to add a new favorite: It goes on MySB - no choice either. This is how I go about: From Internet Radio I go to 'search', enter a search word, pick the right station from the 'found' list, push the + button, and select 'add to favorites'. Next time I press 'Favorites' on the main menu, a page pops up titled 'favorites on mysqueezebox.com' (or something like this, I forgot), and here I find the new entry. BUT I WANTED IT TO GO on the favorites of the internal server! No choice - as I said. By the way, the reason why I want these favorites on the TinySBS is rather emotional: I just like the nice little icons placed on the left of the name of the favorite - the mysqueezebox.com favorites listing comes without icons... Any clou??? -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91962 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Accessing favorites on SBS - accessing favorites on MySB
I'm using the SBS on the Touch as my server. I understand I can save favorites (in my case radio stations) on either server, SBS (using the remote) or MySB (using the remote or doing it on the internet on mysqueezebox.com). And, I did both in the past. (Stored favorites still exist, I checked that via WinSCP on the Touch as well as on MySB on the internet.) Now, when I press Favorites on the remote to select one of those, I'm directed to favorites on MySB - no choice. The same if I want to add a new favorite: It goes on MySB - no choice either. Can someone please help me on how to be able to deliberately select the storage I want??? Txs. -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91962 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] TinySB: Tag albumartist misunderstood?
My SB Touch runs its TinySB server, working with my music collection stored on a USB memory stick. Everything works fine - well, almost: Specifying the tag albumartist for an album seems to make the TinySB Server put this album under Various Artists. This is exactly what I do NOT want when specifying an album artist - the album should be sorted under the album artist's name (by the way, this works exactly so if I switch to use my music collection on the PC, under control of the Squeezebox Server Software). Am I doing anything wrong? Did I misunderstand anything important? Or is TinySB really utilizing albumartist differently from how it's software brother on the PC is using it??? Anyone knows? Thanks! -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88566 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to rescan TinySBS library?
Txs, Jean, that pretty much explains it. First, you must stop the TinySB server, this is available in the advanced options. Yes, I found that and did it. Then, you log in to the Touch and nuke the database: ... On my Windows notebook, under Network Neighborhood, I found a folder named media-sda1, and subsequent subfolders .Squeezebox and cache. In cache I found three database files, which I deleted (was this what you meant?). Then I restarted TinySBS. And, voilà, the TinySBS did a rescan. Peter -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88200 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] How to rescan TinySBS library?
My music library is on an USB memory stick and works fine. However, after I made several changes to the library's content (via my PC), my TinySBS continues to show info it collected way before - like genres which now don't exist anymore. Obviously I need to rescan my music library from scratch. But I couldn't figure out how to tell my TinySBS on the Touch to do that. Please help!!! Peter -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88200 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Browsing Artists: Incorrect sequence
Hi, I need your help on a sorting issue: All artist names in my music database are of the form first name last name, e.g. Buck Owens. Consequently, when browsing thru Artists on my SB, I see my artists in alphabetical order, based on their first names. That is - not always... Some of my artists appear out of order, mostly (always?) sorted by their LAST name. I've checked the appropriate tags and could not spot any difference between these and those of other artists shown in correct sequence. Nowhere in the tags (or the filename) is an artist name written like Owens, Buck. Can anybody help me understand what's going on, and how to fix this? -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85234 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Browsing Artists: Incorrect sequence
Tks for the suggestions. In fact I'm using mp3tag. And I've read the Wiki on setting tags. I'm only using ID3v2.3 and APEv2 (as I understood APEv2 is neccessary if you use MP3Gain, which I do). I also store cover art within the music file (removing cover art however does not help to fix my sorting problem). I guess I shall try deleting my APEv2 tags, in order to find out if this has any influence in the sorting order of my SB Touch. Am I the only one experiencing this feature??? Any further ideas? -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85234 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] External USB memory - how?
Tks for all the tips so far! Waldo Pepper;602258 Wrote: They do however do a program free on their website that allows you to do a full format, merge these partitions and get rid of their proprietry programs. Could you pls be a bit more specific on this? Where can I find it? Tks! -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84726 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] External USB memory - how?
Here (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_-_USB_Compatibility) they say that a SanDisk Cruzer USB Stick with 32GB would work. However, no details are given about its formatting. Still waiting for helpful tips... -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84726 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] External USB memory - how?
Hi, I'm planning to use an USB external device at my SQ Touch, to store my music collection. I've tried a bus-powered HDD, and it works fine. However, I would rather prefer to use a USB memory stick, with say 32GB. Can anyone help me with these questions (or point me to a thread here I didn't find...): - Is make and memory size critical? What works? - Will the stick need to be formatted as replaceable external memory (standard) or as a super floppy disk? - Is the file system (windows, please) critical? Thanks for any tip! -- psch41 psch41's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84726 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
