Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
"a cheap wireless router is cabled between them, acting as a sort of "bridge" by supplying the necessary DNS addressing)" That's the only concern ,but if you done it the right way everything is on the same network ,not separate networks connected to each other . Multiple devices can still make "one network" thats just depends on how the stuff is setup Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
jeromeharris wrote: > Having such ready access to my digital music collection (not to mention > Internet streams) is quite an amazing experience; it makes me think of > the "visions of the future" from World's Fairs of decades past, or from > "The Jetsons"! Oh, I remember 'this ad' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ9qcp6Lcno) from something like 12 years ago... Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
ralphpnj wrote: > > Just a warning: have a backup plan and USE IT!!! You don't want to have > to rip all your CDs again. Unfortunately I learned the hard way and it > was not fun. So please backup your music library. And good luck with new > set up, may you enjoy lots of music for many years to come. I hear you; I have a second "backup" drive; as I rip to my main library drive I copy the files to my backup drive. Once I've gotten most of my CDs ripped, I may even opt for a third backup drive. Given that the cost of a drive is roughly equal to the cost of 10 to 30 CDs, backup drives are cheap compared to the investment in my c. 2000 CDs, and the time spent ripping them. Having such ready access to my digital music collection (not to mention Internet streams) is quite an amazing experience; it makes me think of the "visions of the future" from World's Fairs of decades past, or from "The Jetsons"! jeromeharris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
garym wrote: > yes, the main benefit of the SB ecosystem is to have a multiroom audio > system. You can have a single PC/NAS, etc. holding your music library > and running LMS (you do NOT need a second copy of LMS or your music). > This is connected to your Router. Then you can have many other SB > players (Touch, radio, boom, transporter, SB3, etc.) also connected back > to the same Router (either through WIFI or ethernet). Then for each of > these SB players you can play DIFFERENT things (different song on each > player) or you can synch one or more players together to play exactly > the same thing. This all works whether you are talking about your own > music, internet radio, music services (pandora, etc.) > > For example, in my case, I have a single server running LMS with all my > music. And I have 4 different SB music players connected to my network > (i.e., back to the same router). On these players I can play > independent things or the same thing (i can have one SB playing one > album, another SB playing a different album, my wife can be listening to > internet radio from another SB, and someone in the bedroom can be > listening to Pandora. All at the same time. And I can control any of > the players via an app on my smart phone, tablet, or from my laptop on > the same network. All very simple and how this is designed to work. +1 Completely correct jeromeharris wrote: > So far, I've been using my Touch in one room of my apartment, connected > to a pair of small powered speakers (and Ethernet-cabled to a small > fanless PC running LMS; a cheap wireless router is cabled between them, > acting as a sort of "bridge" by supplying the necessary DNS addressing), > to play music that I've ripped to a hard drive and, occasionally, to > listen to Internet streams. I intend to move this gear to the living > room and connect it to my main hi-fi system once I have ripped the bulk > of my 2000 CDs to my library drive. Just a warning: have a backup plan and USE IT!!! You don't want to have to rip all your CDs again. Unfortunately I learned the hard way and it was not fun. So please backup your music library. And good luck with new set up, may you enjoy lots of music for many years to come. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
jeromeharris wrote: > So far, I've been using my Touch in one room of my apartment, connected > to a pair of small powered speakers (and Ethernet-cabled to a small > fanless PC running LMS; *a cheap wireless router is cabled between them, > acting as a sort of "bridge" by supplying the necessary DNS addressing)* This is the only thing that concerns me. The router usually would not be 'between' your PC and the rest of your network. Generally, you would have your internet link coming into either a DSL or cable modem, then immediately behind that is your router. Then behind the router would be PCs, Squeezeboxes, iPads, printers, what have you. The important thing with Squeezeboxes and LMS is that the computer running LMS and all of your Squeezeboxes all need to be on the same network (subnet). For instance, they all would have addresses in the 192.168.1.x block. This is so that the LMS server and Squeezeboxes can automatically see each other. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
jeromeharris wrote: > -- If I had a second Touch, wouldn't it be possible to connect it via > WiFi to my music system's wireless router (right now, since I've been > using it only via Ethernet cables I have its WiFi function turned off, > but that would be easy to switch back on), and have it play tracks from > my library drive? Yes. > -- If I did that, and if both Touches were turned on at the same time, > would they only be able to play the same track (that's my guess), or > would it be possible to have them each access the library separately and > play different tracks simultaneously (for that to be possible, wouldn't > the second Touch have to run a second copy of LMS that has scanned the > library drive: either its internal "TinyLMS" or an instance of LMS on > another micro-PC)? Yes. You can 'synchronize' the two players and they will play the same music. Playing the song on either one will play the music on both. > -- Even if playing separate simultaneous tracks is not possible, > shouldn't two Touches on the same WiFi network be able to play separate > Internet streams at the same time (via mysb.com)--or could one Touch > play Internet streams while the other is playing hard-drive tracks? Yes. When the players are not synched, they can play independently. They can play different tracks served by LMS, or internet streams, or any combination. LMS has no problem serving music to several different players simultaneously. > -- Just for my understanding: must two Touches on the same network be > set up in a master and slave relationship, or can they operate as > completely independent devices? Are there any benefits and drawbacks to > each of those configurations? Either way. There's no pro/con one way or the other. It's just two different ways of using the system. I recommend not using the built-in server of the Touch. Running LMS on a PC on your network works infinitely better. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
jeromeharris wrote: > So far, I've been using my Touch in one room of my apartment, connected > to a pair of small powered speakers (and Ethernet-cabled to a small > fanless PC running LMS; a cheap wireless router is cabled between them, > acting as a sort of "bridge" by supplying the necessary DNS addressing), > to play music that I've ripped to a hard drive and, occasionally, to > listen to Internet streams. I intend to move this gear to the living > room and connect it to my main hi-fi system once I have ripped the bulk > of my 2000 CDs to my library drive. > > It occurs to me that, once I've moved things to the living room, it > would be neat to be able to also access my library tracks and Internet > streams in our bedroom. So, my questions (pardon me for not having > searched through past forum posts to see if these have been already > discussed): > > -- If I had a second Touch, wouldn't it be possible to connect it via > WiFi to my music system's wireless router (right now, since I've been > using it only via Ethernet cables I have its WiFi function turned off, > but that would be easy to switch back on), and have it play tracks from > my library drive?; > > -- If I did that, and if both Touches were turned on at the same time, > would they only be able to play the same track (that's my guess), or > would it be possible to have them each access the library separately and > play different tracks simultaneously (for that to be possible, wouldn't > the second Touch have to run a second copy of LMS that has scanned the > library drive: either its internal "TinyLMS" or an instance of LMS on > another micro-PC)?; > > > - Even if playing separate simultaneous tracks is not possible, > shouldn't two Touches on the same WiFi network be able to play separate > Internet streams at the same time (via mysb.com)--or could one Touch > play Internet streams while the other is playing hard-drive tracks?; > > -- Just for my understanding: must two Touches on the same network be > set up in a master and slave relationship, or can they operate as > completely independent devices? Are there any benefits and drawbacks to > each of those configurations? > > Being able to have one Touch act as an Internet radio in one room while > the other is playing library tracks would give me sufficient reason to > find a second Touch; being able to have each of them access separate > library tracks at the same time (making a "multi-zone" music system, as > it were) would be sort of a "killer app" for me, if the second Touch and > necessary ancillary gear is not too costly. yes, the main benefit of the SB ecosystem is to have a multiroom audio system. You can have a single PC/NAS, etc. holding your music library and running LMS (you do NOT need a second copy of LMS or your music). This is connected to your Router. Then you can have many other SB players (Touch, radio, boom, transporter, SB3, etc.) also connected back to the same Router (either through WIFI or ethernet). Then for each of these SB players you can play DIFFERENT things (different song on each player) or you can synch one or more players together to play exactly the same thing. This all works whether you are talking about your own music, internet radio, music services (pandora, etc.) For example, in my case, I have a single server running LMS with all my music. And I have 4 different SB music players connected to my network (i.e., back to the same router). On these players I can play independent things or the same thing (i can have one SB playing one album, another SB playing a different album, my wife can be listening to internet radio from another SB, and someone in the bedroom can be listening to Pandora. All at the same time. And I can control any of the players via an app on my smart phone, tablet, or from my laptop on the same network. All very simple and how this is designed to work. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Multiple SBTs, One Library, One Network?
So far, I've been using my Touch in one room of my apartment, connected to a pair of small powered speakers (and Ethernet-cabled to a small fanless PC running LMS; a cheap wireless router is cabled between them, acting as a sort of "bridge" by supplying the necessary DNS addressing), to play music that I've ripped to a hard drive and, occasionally, to listen to Internet streams. I intend to move this gear to the living room and connect it to my main hi-fi system once I have ripped the bulk of my 2000 CDs to my library drive. It occurs to me that, once I've moved things to the living room, it would be neat to be able to also access my library tracks and Internet streams in our bedroom. So, my questions (pardon me for not having searched through past forum posts to see if these have been already discussed): -- If I had a second Touch, wouldn't it be possible to connect it via WiFi to my music system's wireless router (right now, since I've been using it only via Ethernet cables I have its WiFi function turned off, but that would be easy to switch back on), and have it play tracks from my library drive?; -- If I did that, and if both Touches were turned on at the same time, would they only be able to play the same track (that's my guess), or would it be possible to have them each access the library separately and play different tracks simultaneously (for that to be possible, wouldn't the second Touch have to run a second copy of LMS that has scanned the library drive: either its internal "TinyLMS" or an instance of LMS on another micro-PC)?; -- Even if playing separate simultaneous tracks is not possible, shouldn't two Touches on the same WiFi network be able to play separate Internet streams at the same time (via mysb.com)--or could one Touch play Internet streams while the other is playing hard-drive tracks?; -- Just for my understanding: must two Touches on the same network be set up in a master and slave relationship, or can they operate as completely independent devices? Are there any benefits and drawbacks to each of those configurations? Being able to have one Touch act as an Internet radio in one room while the other is playing library tracks would give me sufficient reason to find a second Touch; being able to have each of them access separate library tracks at the same time (making a "multi-zone" music system, as it were) would be sort of a "killer app" for me, if the second Touch and necessary ancillary gear is not too costly. jeromeharris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98061 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
