Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-15 Thread umapati

I have a list of websites for podcast but unable to add it in Podcast
application as cant find the OPML link for it..Plz help me  guide me..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-06 Thread nonnoroger

Well, here is one other happy user (+family) very grateful for this fix.
We have been trying to get to the Radio4 Desert Island Discs Archive -
the otherwise wonderful iPlayer plugin is not applicable here. Tried
using my Mediafly account but could not find it there. Then tried the
BBC OPML feed just this morning to come up against this bug.

Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-06 Thread bpa

nonnoroger;647560 Wrote: 
 We have been trying to get to the Radio4 Desert Island Discs Archive

All the archives (incl Desert island discs)  are available with the BBC
iPlayer Extra plugin although there is a Squeezeplay bug with 7.6 which
I have to fix.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-06 Thread nonnoroger

bpa;647580 Wrote: 
 All the archives (incl Desert island discs)  are available with the BBC
 iPlayer Extra plugin although there is a Squeezeplay bug with 7.6 which
 I have to fix.

Many thanks for the info and the work on this. So far I have chosen to
keep as far as possible to recommended 3rd party plugins but would be
happy to give yours a try once the bug is fixed.

Currently finding the Podcast menus quite direct to navigate.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread 505

You can certainly play podcasts directly from the Touch. You need the
Podcasts app for that. Go to www.mysqueezebox.com, log in, and add the
app, under All Apps - Podcast services. You can add/modify/remove the
podcast feeds through that web site. However, you can add the app
itself to the main menu of the Touch, and from there you can select the
podcast episode you want to play.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

Been there - done that.  Doesn't work.

Does it work on 7.5 ?   I have 7.6.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread andynormancx

It is a multi stage process, which bit didn't work ?


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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
I SAID ALL OF THEM !

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

There is a bug in the Squeezeplay playing some Podcast (at least the BBC
ones).  It seems the touchtoPlay part is not working.

When you drill down through the menus levels down to an actual podcast
- the UI on the Touch (and I think other Squeezeplay) will not actually
play the podcast - just displays the URL.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

So, it's actually a bug?  Is it in 7.5 or is it new for 7.6?

Has it been reported?  I would but I don't follow the steps on doing
that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

castalla;645830 Wrote: 
 So, it's actually a bug?  Is it in 7.5 or is it new for 7.6?

I'm pretty sure it is a bug but it needs to be better characterised. 
It is a 7.6 one and I think something that may have happened in the
last few months.

 
 Has it been reported?  I would but I don't follow the steps on doing
 that.

AFAICT This specific bug has not been reported.  If it is important to
you should should report it - logging a bug is a simple as creating a
forum post.  Also bugs will only be examined if they get sufficient
votes so just creating a bug report is not enough - you have to get
other users to vote for it before developers will look at it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

I tested a few more non BBC podcast feeds and others work.  So the
problem seems to be something specific to format of the BBC podcast
feed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

If it's BBC specific, does that mean it's still a bug?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

Progress  

I added a RSS feed to a specific BBC series (Americana) - this plays
fine and lists all available episodes.

So, the issue is with the overall BBC feed of podcasts - where is the
original link for this?  I can't find it at the BBC podcast pages.  Or
a feed for each specific station?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

castalla;645884 Wrote: 
 So, the issue is with the overall BBC feed of podcasts - where is the
 original link for this?  I can't find it at the BBC podcast pages.  Or
 a feed for each specific station?

Yes - this is a OPML feed which aggregates all the BBC RSS podcast
feeds.

The link is still updated but like many of the BBC RSS feeds - they no
longer advertise it.  IIRC it used to be on the podcast page
accessible from this page http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ - the podcasts
link should be bottom right but web page is no longer active.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

I need to find an opml expert who might be able to determine the
differences between the series opml and the overall aggregated opml
!!!

Given the BBC have closed down so many of their technical services, I
doubt there's any use in contacting them.

I know some 'experts' on the Reciva forums, so maybe they can advise.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

castalla;645891 Wrote: 
 I need to find an opml expert who might be able to determine the
 differences between the series opml and the overall aggregated opml !!!

There is no difference - OPML is OPML.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

I see ... 

The Americana series is an rss.xml (which works) but the aggregator is
what?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

Americana is RSS format not OPML format.

The issue is not the correctness of the OPML format as handling of OPML
list of RSS for Squeezeplay by SBS is broken but handling of OPML of RSS
for Web and older players (e.g. SB3) is OK.  The major change in 7.6 was
onebrowser which was the unification of processing of UI and it looks
like this use case was broken.

The other test case of the same format is the NPR's aggregate of
podcasts ( http://www.npr.org/podcasts.opml ) - unfortunately there
is currently an error in the NPR content.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

So, are you definitely saying it IS a bug in 7.6 which wasn't in 7.5 ??

I need to look for a Dummies Guide to opml and rss feeds.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

I just filed a bug - Bug 17385

How do I get supporters to endorse this?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

It is a bug in 7.6 because a user can access and play podcasts from Web
and older player (e.g.SB3, Boom) interface (although there is a small
bug with display of a blank line on the older player) but cannot play a
podcast from a Squeezplay interface.


In 7.5 (and 7.4) the bug was different - a user could play just a
single podcast - the first in the list.

Looking up OPML and RSS will not do any good as the problem is in the
SBS code not the format of the podcast.

AFAICT This is a very minor bug in terms of affecting users because

1. I think there are only two sources of aggregate podcast lists. One
is broken and the other is not advertised - it is clear there are very
very few users use them.

2. There are alternatives to the podcast list readily available such as
BBC Listen Again. Avid podcast users have a podcast manager which
download into a directory and then let SBS play from the directory.

I think it is interesting to note the issue but there are bugs which
affect far more users that should be fixed first.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

Oh dear!  As they say up North - That's ye tellt!

I guess any bug which impacts on a user is a major bug for that user!

Will you please support me?  (Bug 17385)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread bpa

I feel like Baron Frankenstein - you didn't know about the podcast URL
until I told you.  It can't have affected your life so much since it
has never worked.

Use BBC iPlayer plugin - it provides better access and better audio
quality.

The v. limited developer's time should directed at fixing major bugs
which affect many users.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-08-01 Thread castalla

LOL - yes, I hesitated to mention that you had set this particular hare
running!

I agree with what you say - but it just BUGS me!

Thanks again for the help you've given.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Podcasts - how and why not?

2011-07-31 Thread castalla

Could some kind person expllain how podcasts are supposed to work on the
Touch?

As far as I see the only way to get them to play is to go to the web ui
and select them there - the Touch then springs into life.

Is there no way o select and play from the Touch itself?

Is this a design feature? a bug?  or what?  

Whatever it is, it's darned annoying!

(As an aside, I posted a support request on this at Logitech - I got an
automated reply in Spanish (because my Ip is in Spain) - this is going
to be fun sorting out!)


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