Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread Mnyb

The local player plugin , it basically installs squeezelite




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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread CDLehner

OK...here's a silly question; that the experts already looking in here,
can probably answer...so I don't have to post another (silly-question)
thread :o

I host my LMS on a "dedicated" PC, that is not my primary PC; it just
hosts LMS and serves some other duties. In the short-term, I'm going to
move that...and connect it to the X300As.

I've never used that PC to play; just to control my 4 other Squeeze
devices. What's the best/easiest way, to turn that PC into a
-player-...that I could remote-control from the SB app on my pads; as
well as continue to host and serve LMS?

TIA



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread CDLehner

bpa wrote: 
> The question is not whether you know how to do it but whether when
> asked, you'll follow instructions and try to do it and provide hard
> feedback or whether you decide it's too much effort especially as a
> solution is not guaranteed. Using the SBT shell command are no more
> complex  than changing the kernel or all the other tests you've been
> doing.
> 
> I don't use EDO and do not have a DAC so cannot provide any definitive
> help.  But from this thread - different kernel have been used to sort
> out issues with USB support. However, looking at other forums the
> problems with X300As on Linux seem to be associated with Alsa mixer
> controls  which is a different type of problem.  I don't think X300a (or
> its DAC chip in another device) have been tested on SBT/EDO before so
> unless Triode (who is usually v. busy) is going to do some guidance, you
> need to get a better undertsanding of the problem.

Yeah, and I think you've hit the nail on the head nicely. While I don't
know how to do what you've suggested...I'm not an idiot, and can ask
questions and follow directions with the best of them.

That being said...I agree; I don't exactly have a ton of time, to
invest...for an untested/unproven solution. I have Googled, and seen
some of the postings you reference; i.e. "alsa" issues, etc. While I
don't even know what that means...lol; it seems to me, to be unresolved.

So I guess the answer is...I'm assuming, for now; the SBT and X300A is
-not- a viable solution. Didn't want to steal one of my Touch's
anyway...lol. I'm looking into alternatives, and if the SBT works
"easily" with these speakers; well...I could always give it a shot then.
Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread bpa

CDLehner wrote: 
> My man; if I knew how to do -that-...you think I'd be here, looking for
> help. :o

The question is not whether you know how to do it but whether when
asked, you'll follow instructions and try to do it and provide hard
feedback or whether you decide it's too much effort especially as a
solution is not guaranteed. Using the SBT shell command are no more
complex  than changing the kernel or all the other tests you've been
doing.

I don't use EDO and do not have a DAC so cannot provide any definitive
help.  But from this thread - different kernel have been used to sort
out issues with USB support. However, looking at other forums the
problems with X300As on Linux seem to be associated with Alsa mixer
controls  which is a different type of problem.  I don't think X300a (or
its DAC chip in another device) have been tested on SBT/EDO before so
unless Triode (who is usually v. busy) is going to do some guidance, you
need to get a better undertsanding of the problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread CDLehner

bpa wrote: 
> An alternative approach would be login into the touch (using ssh) and
> then check if the X300a is connected ok at a USB level (look at dmesg)
> and then look if they appear as alsa devices ( /proc/asound) and  then
> try aplay to play a 44/16 wav file straight to the speakers.

My man; if I knew how to do -that-...you think I'd be here, looking for
help. :o



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread bpa

An alternative approach would be login into the touch (using ssh) and
then check if the X300a is connected ok at a USB level (look at dmesg)
and then look if they appear as alsa devices ( /proc/asound) and  then
try aplay to play a 44/16 wav file straight to the speakers.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread CDLehner

armin1975 wrote: 
> Have u tried a different kernel?
> 
> search in the forum,
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Armin

Have no idea how to do that; not sure where to even start looking. But
I'll poke around.

Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-06 Thread armin1975

Have u tried a different kernel?

search in the forum,

best regards,

Armin



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-05 Thread Stratmangler

The SBT runs Linux.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-05 Thread CDLehner

Can I assume, the EDO and/or SBT; are using some form of Linux, as its
OS? Because I am seeing reports, that the X300As driver...does not play
nice with Linux.

I guess some have had success, with a "hack"; updating a kernal, and so
forth (but that's not with SBT, to my knowledge...and way over my head,
so I'm not interested anyway).

Any feedback...about whether I have ANY shot at getting this to work; or
should I start looking for another solution? :(

Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-05 Thread CDLehner

I'm sorry to say...even with a powered hub; it seems to be doing the
same thing. :confused:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-05 Thread Mnyb

There is also something iffy with USB drivers on many ARM platform hence
the HUB will assist . I would try a powered one .

Not sure that unpowered ones have the chipset you want .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-05 Thread Stratmangler

CDLehner wrote: 
> So...do you specifically think it needs to be -powered-? I got the
> impression, it had to do with asynchronous...between usb1 and usb2
> (that's kinda what the EDO says).

My thinking is powered because the Touch is possibly struggling to
provide the power to drive the USB connection in the speakers, and is
rebooting as a result.
The stock PSU is adequate to power the Touch, but not necessarily other
devices.

I could be completely wide of the mark - I have been before and
doubtless will be again :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-04 Thread CDLehner

Stratmangler wrote: 
> Would a powered USB hub help?
> Can't hurt to try 

So...do you specifically think it needs to be -powered-? I got the
impression, it had to do with asynchronous...between usb1 and usb2
(that's kinda what the EDO says).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-04 Thread CDLehner

Stratmangler wrote: 
> Would a powered USB hub help?
> Can't hurt to try 

Yeah, that's where I'm at. In EDO, it even says "some DACs will need a
hub"; but there is also a built-in workaround. With that not working...a
hub is my next step. Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-04 Thread Stratmangler

Would a powered USB hub help?
Can't hurt to try 



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[SlimDevices: Touch] SBT/EDO with KEF X300A Speakers

2014-05-04 Thread CDLehner

So...I just picked-up these new KEF speakers. Wish I'd paid a little
more attention, to the available inputs. I was hoping for optical s/pdif
in; only USB-mini and 3.5mm.

So...an SBT, using USB-out would work nicely; though I hadn't planned to
have to rob one of my SBTs. But I can't seem to get it to work.

Connected to the X300As, when I go to EDOs digital output settings >
select audio output...I see the KEF there; but with its output selected,
the SBT just keeps re-booting and re-booting.

Thanks



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