Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread Paul Webster


Hardware volume controls
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109624-Announce-Material-Skin=1011985=1#post1011985
and I think better lock screen handling
https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-material-app/releases



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread edwin2006


Paul Webster wrote: 
> There is an app on f-droid - but you can experiment with the web
> interface by installing the plugin and then going to 
> h t t p ://lmsip:9000/material
> to use it.
> The app is a wrapper for the web interface that brings a couple of extra
> things.Tried to find the extra things.
Could you give a hint?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread Heuer


Yes, a fantastic piece of work by Craig and brings the whole LMS
ecosystem bang up to date.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread Paul Webster


There is an app on f-droid - but you can experiment with the web
interface by installing the plugin and then going to 
h t t p ://lmsip:9000/material
to use it.
The app is a wrapper for the web interface that brings a couple of extra
things.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread edwin2006


Heuer wrote: 
> As you have been away for so long (if you have not tried it yet) give
> the Material Skin a go:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109624-Announce-Material-Skin
> 
> There is also a mobile app which gives you full control over LMS and any
> players.I guess you're pointing at the lms app via F-Droid?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread Heuer


As you have been away for so long (if you have not tried it yet) give
the Material Skin a go:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109624-Announce-Material-Skin

There is also a mobile app which gives you full control over LMS and any
players.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread slartibartfast


stop-spinning wrote: 
> Does the DAC32 take an external DAC? This is how I am using the SBT - as
> a transport.No

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-07 Thread stop-spinning

Heuer wrote: 
> Not at the moment as far as I can tell although it does fix the bass
> dropout in the Radio.
> 
> Consider getting yourself a DAC32 which has some of us quite exited at
> the moment. I have a feeling it will be better sounding than a Touch and
> only costs £65/E65. Details in third party software part of the Forum.


Does the DAC32 take an external DAC? This is how I am using the SBT - as
a transport.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-06 Thread Heuer

Not at the moment as far as I can tell although it does fix the bass
dropout in the Radio.

Consider getting yourself a DAC32 which has some of us quite exited at
the moment. I have a feeling it will be better sounding than a Touch and
only costs £65/E65. Details in third party software part of the Forum.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-06 Thread stop-spinning


Heuer wrote: 
> To get the latest community f/w you need to go into
> LMS>Settings>Advanced>Community Firmware and check the box. It can take
> up to 24 hours for the f/w to appear and you will need to reboot the
> Touch when it will offer to install the latest. Latest f/w is
> 8.0.1-r16835 which you can check from within LMS>Players. Follow these
> instructions carefully if you are going to upgrade:
> 
> 

Wow - incredible how far you have taken this software and this really
does make me serious think about keeping the Touch and to keep LMS as my
preferred streaming platform. I don't yet quite understand why the Touch
as a transport sounds better than the Auralic Mini as a transport to my
AN DAC - that should not be the case - perhaps LMS streaming software is
better sounding - I don't know yet because the Mini is meant to be
better hardware than the Touch.

Anyway - is there an advantage of using the latest community software
over and above the version I am on now?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-05 Thread Heuer


To get the latest community f/w you need to go into
LMS>Settings>Advanced>Community Firmware and check the box. It can take
up to 24 hours for the f/w to appear and you will need to reboot the
Touch when it will offer to install the latest. Latest f/w is
8.0.1-r16835 which you can check from within LMS>Players. Follow these
instructions carefully if you are going to upgrade:

-To simplify installation of the new firmware, Michael has created a
plugin for LMS which redirects the firmware update check and download to
my alternate site.

It's available in the 3rd Party Plugin section of the LMS
Settings->Plugins tab. After installaton and an LMS restart, navigate to
Settings->Advanced->Community Firmware for Touch/Radio/Controller and
click the checkbox to enable the redirection. You MUST be running LMS
8.0.1 or newer to install the plugin. piCorePlayer requires LMS
8.0.1-1608617100 from December 22, 2020 or newer.

Once enabled, it can take up to the duration set in the LMS Software
Updates setting, which by default is 24 hours, before the firmware is
downloaded and your device prompts with the option to install the
update.
You can also navigate to Settings->Advanced->Software Update to check if
v8.0.1rx is available on the device. You also have to have enabled
the check for software updates for LMS to even look for new firmware.

I STRONGLY suggest that you perform a Factory Reset of your devices
before installing the new v8.0.1 firmware for the first time. Many of
the patches available for the original firmware are built-in now and may
cause squeezeplay to fail to start at boot. The Enhanced Digital Output
(EDO) applet for the Touch works with the new firmware. However,
_make_sure_you_factory_reset_before_upgrading_if_EDO_is_already_runing_on_your_Touch_.
Also, make sure you connect your device back to the local LMS server and
not mysqueezebox.com after the factory reset to be able to install the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-05 Thread stop-spinning


Man in a van wrote: 
> Check by going to Settings > Advanced > Software Update it should be
> (7.8.0. r 16754)

Yes it is exactly that - how did you know? Was this your SBT?

Should I attempt to upgrade this software further?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-05 Thread Man in a van


> does this mean the Touch will get its updates from the PC as a proxy
> from here on in?

Check by going to Settings > Advanced > Software Update it should be
(7.8.0. r 16754)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-05 Thread stop-spinning


Heuer wrote: 
> There is a new f/w release from the community for the
> Radio/Touch/Controller which you can enable in LMS V8.1.1
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113479-Announce-Community-Firmware-for-Squeezebox-Radio-Touch-Controller-and-LMS-8
> 
> Don't think it does anything for sound quality but you will need to
> check the release notes. EDO will allow playback of 192Kb files via USB
> on the Touch but the audio quality is really down to your DAC.

Man in a van wrote: 
> One needs to reset the software to v7.7.3 (I might have the version
> number slightly wrong) but go to software update on the touch
> 
> With EDO all three digital outputs will give the enhanced rate, the
> difference may be with the RX chip in the playback device 
> 
> ronnie

Ok well I'm OK with having EDO on the Touch as it stands from the
previous owner, so I guess I don't need to reset back to v7.7.3. I have
just downloaded and installed LMS 8.1.1 on my PC so does this mean the
Touch will get its updates from the PC as a proxy from here on in?

Good to know that the EDO also affects the coax in a positive way too.

It really is a good transport although you would expect an Auralic Mini
transport to be better - but that's not there case in my tests. Perhaps
the software has a lot to do with streaming sound quality too.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-05 Thread Man in a van


stop-spinning wrote: 
> 
> 
> Funny thing is - I reset the SBT to factory defaults about a Week or so
> ago but this message is still coming up (I never noticed it before). Not
> that I'm too bothered - it's all working OK - I just wondered why you
> can't reset it back to how it was out of interest.
> 
> Does EDO give me other enhanced options if I choose not to use the USB
> out? Does it also Enhance coax?

One needs to reset the software to v7.7.3 (I might have the version
number slightly wrong) but go to software update on the touch

With EDO all three digital outputs will give the enhanced rate, the
difference may be with the RX chip in the playback device 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-05 Thread stop-spinning


Heuer wrote: 
> There is a new f/w release from the community for the
> Radio/Touch/Controller which you can enable in LMS V8.1.1
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113479-Announce-Community-Firmware-for-Squeezebox-Radio-Touch-Controller-and-LMS-8
> 
> Don't think it does anything for sound quality but you will need to
> check the release notes. EDO will allow playback of 192Kb files via USB
> on the Touch but the audio quality is really down to your DAC.

Thanks - I bought this SBT used and noticed during power up that the
'Enhanced Digital Output Unsupported by Logitech' message appears on
power up - I hadn't noticed this before so the previous owner must have
installed EDO.

Funny thing is - I reset the SBT to factory defaults about a Week or so
ago but this message is still coming up (I never noticed it before). Not
that I'm too bothered - it's all working OK - I just wondered why you
can't reset it back to how it was out of interest.

Does EDO give me other enhanced options if I choose not to use the USB
out? Does it also Enhance coax?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-03 Thread Heuer


There is a new f/w release from the community for the
Radio/Touch/Controller which you can enable in LMS V8.1.1
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113479-Announce-Community-Firmware-for-Squeezebox-Radio-Touch-Controller-and-LMS-8

Don't think it does anything for sound quality but you will need to
check the release notes. EDO will allow playback of 192Kb files via USB
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-03-03 Thread stop-spinning


Hi - as per my question further up - is there a software package that
can further improve the SBT as a transport via it's coax (not USB)
connection?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-22 Thread CorsairFlot


I agree, I waited a long time for the release and finally received an
order last week.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-22 Thread stop-spinning


I am still enjoying the SBT into my AN 0.1x DAC - I'm just wondering
though - can any software updates improve the sound quality of the SBT
as a transport even further?

I know you can get EDO for USB out - but I am just fine using coax. 

I am using the SBT over Wi-Fi.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread philippe_44


slartibartfast wrote: 
> This is from Titan Cables. They constantly use "dialectic" instead of
> "dielectric" [emoji1787]
> https://titanaudio.co.uk/pages/why-buy-mains-cables
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread Zombie


What's the fuzz about Chords DACs? Sometimes it sound they're the beat
since sliced bread.
Is Mojo yet another magic DAC in the 450 euro bracket?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread stop-spinning

Heuer wrote: 
> No joke, just making the point that at which point do you stop. Would a
> s/h Touch (£60) be markedly improved with a £37,200 mains cable and
> would putting a MCRU PSU (£599) add or subtract? 
> 
> "Wow, resonance mains will shift the WHOLE performance envelope of your
> entire set up not improve aspects alone, a contextual shift in the way
> you're set up functions, removing bog-standard distortion yet without
> impact on dynamics and a sense of calm and a sense of unprecedented
> refinement and class to the whole system."
> 
> I was building SB3 linear PSU's back in 2008 and know the difference
> they can make but today I would forgo the PSU and put the money into a
> Chord Qutest DAC (£700 s/h) which really ups the game

OK sorry I really thought you were jesting. Funny you should mention the
Chord Qutest DAC - I had the choice of the Qutest or an Audio Note 0.1x
(which are approx the same price s/h) - I chose the Audio Note.

So I now have the SBT connected to an AN 0.1x - and it seems that the
SBT is not holding back the music making abilities of the Audio Note;
proving yet again how good the SBT is as a reliable and rock solid
performer. Bear in mind also that the AN is a design which eschews any
digital manipulation as much as it can (filterless, NOS, simple TDA1543
chip etc) - as well as the aforementioned the AN does not re-clock the
incoming signal from the transport - so the transport has to be good!

I have heard great things about the Qutest - but I choose the AN and
thus far I feel it was a good choice (although I have not listened to
the Qutest even though I own a Mojo).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread Heuer

No joke, just making the point that at which point do you stop. Would a
s/h Touch (£60) be markedly improved with a £37,200 mains cable and
would putting a MCRU PSU (£599) add or subtract? 

"Wow, resonance mains will shift the WHOLE performance envelope of your
entire set up not improve aspects alone, a contextual shift in the way
you're set up functions, removing bog-standard distortion yet without
impact on dynamics and a sense of calm and a sense of unprecedented
refinement and class to the whole system."



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread stop-spinning

Heuer wrote: 
> I really think the Touch MCRU power supply needs a proper mains cable to
> get the most out of it. I suggest the Audio Acoustics WOW Power Cord
> (0.83m length) which apparently changes everything, albeit at a cost of
> £37,200. However there is a used 9 year old one on eBay for £19,990:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDIO-ACOUSTICS-WOW-RESONANCE-MAINS-New-Item-37-200-for-CD-DAC-TRANSP-PRE-AMP-/324404591693
> 
> Matching digital interconnect is £9,600!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread slartibartfast

Heuer wrote: 
> I really think the Touch MCRU power supply needs a proper mains cable to
> get the most out of it. I suggest the Audio Acoustics WOW Power Cord
> (0.83m length) which apparently changes everything, albeit at a cost of
> £37,200. However there is a used 9 year old one on eBay for £19,990:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDIO-ACOUSTICS-WOW-RESONANCE-MAINS-New-Item-37-200-for-CD-DAC-TRANSP-PRE-AMP-/324404591693
> 
> Matching digital interconnect is £9,600!I thought the 9 year old one might 
> cost more as it is fully burnt in.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread Heuer

I really think the Touch MCRU power supply needs a proper mains cable to
get the most out of it. I suggest the Audio Acoustics WOW Power Cord
(0.83m length) which apparently changes everything, albeit at a cost of
£37,200. However there is a used 9 year old one on eBay for £19,990:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDIO-ACOUSTICS-WOW-RESONANCE-MAINS-New-Item-37-200-for-CD-DAC-TRANSP-PRE-AMP-/324404591693

Matching digital interconnect is £9,600!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-14 Thread slartibartfast


philippe_44 wrote: 
> Holy Crap
> 
> [edit]: but now I understand
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme Gold Plated Audiophile fuse.
  > 

> > 
> 
> And I like that, this is my preferred one
> https://www.mcru.co.uk/product-category/diy-componants/audiophile-grade-solder/This
>  is from Titan Cables. They constantly use "dialectic" instead of
"dielectric" [emoji1787]
https://titanaudio.co.uk/pages/why-buy-mains-cables

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-13 Thread philippe_44


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I hope you got a good deal on the combination if this is the power
> supply.
> https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mains-cables-r-us-dc-power-supply-8/
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-13 Thread Daverz

stop-spinning wrote: 
> It has the same configuration but it's not that beast of a power supply.
> Goes to show what potential you can get out of the SBT though! 
> 
> An SBT on average sells for £100 (sometimes less) - and this power
> supply £600! So what you effectively get is a streamer for £700!
> Disproportionately priced you may think, but if the combo exceeds a
> modern day £1000 streamer then, money well spent I guess if you think of
> it that way.
> 
> I know for a fact that the linear power supply I have is hugely
> influential in a positive way - what that £600 one will do I can only
> imagine!
> 
> if you are deadly serious about your SBT - perhaps you owe it to
> yourself to invest in one of these power supplies and not worry about
> the ratio of the investment. You have to try it for yourself and see I
> guess.

I owe it to myself not to waste money on power supplies that don't make
any audible difference.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-13 Thread Zombie


stop-spinning wrote: 
> Measurements don't seem to reveal everything - pop along to ASR and get
> your fix from there - but listening to various equipment is far more
> important and evident.

I assume you used blind A-B to determine that. What in a PSU else than
low noise could affect the sound?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-13 Thread stop-spinning

slartibartfast wrote: 
> I hope you got a good deal on the combination if this is the power
> supply.
> https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mains-cables-r-us-dc-power-supply-8/
> 

It has the same configuration but it's not that beast of a power supply.
Goes to show what potential you can get out of the SBT though! 

An SBT on average sells for £100 (sometimes less) - and this power
supply £600! So what you effectively get is a streamer for £700!
Disproportionately priced you may think, but if the combo exceeds a
modern day £1000 streamer then, money well spent I guess if you think of
it that way.

I know for a fact that the linear power supply I have is hugely
influential in a positive way - what that £600 one will do I can only
imagine!

if you are deadly serious about your SBT - perhaps you owe it to
yourself to invest in one of these power supplies and not worry about
the ratio of the investment. You have to try it for yourself and see I
guess.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-13 Thread stop-spinning


Fizbin wrote: 
> There have been measurements taken in the past (by various members) of
> the original PSU vs premium ones and they measured the same.

Well measurements or not - the linear power supply makes a very big
difference to the sound even when used as a pure transport. I tried the
stock power supply and, to say it didn't come close is an
understatement.

Measurements don't seem to reveal everything - pop along to ASR and get
your fix from there - but listening to various equipment is far more
important and evident.

It's really important though to have a revealing set of speakers to
'hear' those differences. Else, yes, poor measuring or the best
measuring may in fact sound the same with your average set of
transducers.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-12 Thread slartibartfast


stop-spinning wrote: 
> OK this Touch is sounding exceptionally good with my current Metrum
> Octave MK2 DAC (which is a fussy beast) - I wonder how much of that is
> attributed to the linear power supply that came with it. 
> 
> The PSU is a MCRU two box design with the small regulator box nearer the
> Touch. But the sound from this thing (as a transport for now) is - no
> doubt about it - sounding top notch.I hope you got a good deal on the 
> combination if this is the power
supply.
https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/mains-cables-r-us-dc-power-supply-8/

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-11 Thread Fizbin


There have been measurements taken in the past (by various members) of
the original PSU vs premium ones and they measured the same.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold

2021-02-11 Thread stop-spinning


OK this Touch is sounding exceptionally good with my current Metrum
Octave MK2 DAC (which is a fussy beast) - I wonder how much of that is
attributed to the linear power supply that came with it. 

The PSU is a MCRU two box design with the small regulator box nearer the
Touch. But the sound from this thing (as a transport for now) is - no
doubt about it - sounding top notch.



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