Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone else frustrated in lack of WebM content and WebM quality on YouTube?

2014-07-21 Thread msuper643
THERE ARE OBVIOUS ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE PRODUCTION OF THEIR GOODS IN CHINA  
OR ASIA, BUT SHOULD ALSO BE WELL AWARE OF THE QUALITY ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE.  
ALTHOUGH THE RACISM OF THE PAST ON SHODDY GOODS PRODUCED IN CHINA OR ASIA  
WERE MORE AMERICAN PROPAGANDA HARD FACTS.

Quality Control Of India


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's so special about identi.ca?

2014-07-21 Thread gary02121993
But I need to get my photos and videos first, they're precious to me. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Abrowser, Long Live Abrowser

2014-07-21 Thread sansonetto

I tried, it looks very nice, I like it! Thnks


[Trisquel-users] Ututo gnu linux

2014-07-21 Thread blade . vp2020

hi
What happened to Ututo gnu linux???
Is still alive?



Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread andrew
A big IANAL here.  We're coming at this from different angles.  Yes non-free  
drivers are a GPL violation.  However, these drivers and firmware (or at  
least the ones I've tried) are click-through licensed by Mediatek under the  
GPL and you seem to idicate some of the source confirms that too.  So looking  
here:


https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DeveloperViolate

a developer can't violate the GPL.  Thus the code such as it is, even without  
the blob source, is probably technically GPL if e.g. click through licensing  
works where you are. Therefore you have the four freedoms including to study,  
modify and create derivative versions.  So logically a reverse complied  
version would just be a derivative of their binary original.  The Linux-libre  
deblobbing script says pretty much this of some blobs it removes.


There's a chance it's a blob for exactly the same reason jxself's linux-libre  
debs are Bring Your Own Firmware and the latest Atheros firmware was a  
special packaging effort for Ruben.  That is compiling firmware to  
microcontroller object code is not integrated into the standard Linux compile  
process.  But don't bet on it.


With SoCs, the chip design components for the internal devices are licensed  
from a variety of sources complete with driver. So they'll only have binary  
drivers for some devices in them to start with.  As with another SoC mfr it  
might be Team A builds a distinct type of SoC and does GPL compliance one  
way, and Team B builds a different type and doesn't do GPL at all.   All the  
web shows you is Team B perhaps.


So given the chances of someone from a free software distro writing to them  
before is limited, do as you suggest write.  But all you can do is ask for  
the source for the blobs (perhaps saying its to save you reverse compiling  
them as they've allowed under GPl).  It's perhaps best to bear in mind the  
Chinese have a social taboo against admitting they got something wrong  
'losing face.' So you probably shouldn't tell them they have, e.g. the one  
which the source says is an unpublished work, perhaps say something like the  
server has a bug and is serving their pre-release code.   Even if you send  
your email to one of their Western offices if it gets any attention they  
could well forward it to someone Chinese perhaps even to the team who will be  
in China.


Lastly hardware companies tend to be like Mick Jagger and not get out of bed  
for less than a million(units).  So assuming your request gets translated and  
put in the right team's inbox likely you'll be at the bottom of the list  
after all the paying customers for support attention.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread legimet . calc
Yeah, I don't think we can get it. On the other hand, the Ralink firmware  
blobs are the smallest in the whole linux-firmware.git tree. And a developer  
of rt2x00 said


"One of the things I like about the Ralink hardware is that almost everything  
that really matters is handled in software. Only the things that are very  
timing-specific are handled in the hardware/firmware. I am not encouraging  
reverse engineering, and I see no point in doing this for the Ralink  
firmware, since the most interesting features for the hardware can simply be  
implemented in the driver software itself." [0]


So this might be easier to reverse engineer than other blobs. Of course,  
reverse engineering is not easy, but it might be possible.


[0] http://archive09.linux.com/feature/132701


[Trisquel-users] Re : Ututo gnu linux

2014-07-21 Thread magicbanana
Last December, the FSF thought the project was dead but it turned out to be  
wrong (see the "update" at the top of the post):  
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/upcoming-changes-for-ututo


That said, it certainly is a bad idea to use their outdated last release.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread chris

I think the way we're phrasing this is off.

Quite a bit of GPL licensed code violates the principles of the GPL and free  
software movement. This is something that distinguishes the free software  
movement from the "open source" movement. "open source" proponent have no  
problem with non-free pieces as the goal is purely to code more efficiently  
(code reuse where its beneficial and non-free code where it isn't).  
CodeWeaver's CrossOver Linux is a good example of a piece of software that is  
"open source". It is based off of mostly free software, but has a non-free  
user interface that runs on top of the free software piece (WINE) to make it  
easier to configure/use MS Windows software (keep in mind some MS  
Windows-only software is 100% free, but only runs on the non-free platform,  
and therefore needs WINE).


Ralink and most companies developing GPL licensed drivers are doing something  
similar although in a reverse fashion. Instead of making the interference  
proprietary they make the core proprietary. This is worse because now the  
software is totally useless. Unlike with WINE / CrossOver Linux it is at  
least possible to utilize the software without the non-free parts. That is  
not the case with drives that depend on non-free firmware.


Ralink and most other companies developing drivers dependent on firmware have  
not released the code because the "open source" community isn't demanding it.  
Unfortunately Linus Torvalds (the lead kernel developer) has taken a stance  
that he doesn't care. This has lead to an undesirable situation where  
companies are less cooperative than they probably otherwise would be. It's so  
bad in many cases that even Linus has gotten upset and yelled out at times.  
Personally I think it is in part his own doing in his support of the "open  
source" movement. While it can be argued that the "open source" movement is  
the reason we have many of the drivers that we do it can also be argued it's  
why we have many of the problems we do.


In any event Ralink has been uncooperative in the full release of source.  
While the driver is under a GNU GPL license it's not free software as the  
source consists of a binary-only (and thus not free despite it being under  
the GNU GPL) component. That violates the spirit of the GNU GPL license.


What you should take from all this is that GNU GPL licensed work is not  
sufficient to make something free software in its entirety. While in many  
cases the free software community gains some benefit from partly free  
software it gains nothing in other cases (as it is in this case, with  
drivers).


In most cases the GNU GPL licensed driver has separate firmware, but in other  
cases, like the Ralink drivers that firmware is non-free and embedded within  
the free code and thus not really free (and particularly not in any useful  
way).




Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread legimet . calc
"In most cases the GNU GPL licensed driver has separate firmware, but in  
other cases, like the Ralink drivers that firmware is non-free and embedded  
within the free code and thus not really free (and particularly not in any  
useful way)."


The drivers on Mediatek website are the old drivers that have the firmware  
embedded. The rt2x00 drivers, which were made with the help of Ralink and are  
of higher quality, use a separate firmware blob.


I read a quote from a rt2x00 dev who said that, in the case of Ralink, most  
things are actually done in the driver, and the firmware only handles what is  
really needed. So I guess the situation is better than other chips that  
require nonfree firmware.


[Trisquel-users] Kongoni GNU/Linux

2014-07-21 Thread stevekilleen

Hello,

Anyone have any experience using Kongoni? Apparently it's free as in freedom  
but it's not endorsed by the FSF.


It looks impressive but it seems to be dormant at the moment. Hopefully it  
will come back to life because it looks user friendly and we could do with  
more user friendly free as in freedom OS's like Trisquel. The more the  
merrier!!


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongoni_(operating_system)


[Trisquel-users] Abrowser 30 slow html5 video

2014-07-21 Thread arielgnu

Hey every one.

I'm having a problem with abrowser 30 that I didn't use to have with previous  
versions.


Now, after watching a video on youtube using the html5 player for a while,  
the video starts playing choppy and slow, although the audio sounds right. It  
even takes a while for the video to stop when I click on pause. Something  
that I notice is that the buffing circular thing that appears when the video  
is loading is shown a lot while the video is still playing.


I've tried to make a new abrowser profile but this didn't solve the problem,  
so I'm sure is not any addon or history issue.


It seems like this happens when watching the video in "720p HD", I'll keep  
testing and let you know because I'm not so sure.


Thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread chris
I'm going to provide a bit of information on what chipsets are free software  
friendly and contain no non-free parts (embedded or otherwise) in most cases:


RTL8187L/RTL8187B/RTL8187 - USB G wireless Adapters
AR9271/AR9170/AR7010+AR9280 - USB N Wireless Adapters
AR9280/AR9281/AR9285/AR9287 - PCI/PCI Express Wireless N Cards (desktop and  
laptop cards)


All newer Atheros chipsets are dependent on non-free firmware (All PCI/PCI  
Express Cards) at this time. ath6kl which supports Atheros AR600x 802.11n  
series chipsets are dependent on a non-free firmware component.


Other things to note: The chipset info in and of itself isn't really enough  
to go on. It can be useful to identifying hardware that is free software  
friendly. However some components may have a different ID number thats not  
included in the driver and thus not compatible. Other things you can come  
across are adapters/hardware where the design is based on a given chipset,  
but there are significant deviations which make the kernel driver  
incompatible with the hardware. In other cases there are more than one  
chipset on a card and one of those chipsets depends on a non-free driver.  
Don't get confused. Just because your wifi card works doesn't mean it's  
totally free. In other cases you may get confused because the firmware was  
loaded by your non-free MS Windows OS, Ubuntu, or similar. While the device  
worked in Trisquel/Parabola GNU/Linux/etc it was only because you  
accidentally loaded the non-free firmware.


Model numbers don't equal chipsets. When someone says model XYZ of something  
utilizes a free chipset that doesn't make it so. What they should have said  
is that at least one version of the model utilizes a free chipset. In many  
instances there are dozens of different, but similar releases that use the  
same model #. That means totally different driver/firmware/etc.


In many cases where a chipset is advertised the product actually contains  
something else. What happened was the company which manufactured it included  
the info in the advertising somewhere. That was copied to a sellers product  
information page. The manufacturer then changed the chipset(s) in the product  
and failed to update the site, or the seller didn't get told that the product  
changed. As the model number remains the same you have no idea what your  
actually getting even in cases where you think you do because the  
information's been specified.


Another big thing to concern yourself with is digital restrictions in  
laptops. Particularly on the Mini PCI/e slot where the wifi card goes. As an  
example even if you can 'free' (and we'll be talking specifically about some  
or all of the BIOS here and not other bits of non-free code found elsewhere)  
a laptop your still promoting a company that enables this bad practice. Not  
good. Specifically the companies that do this I'll call out here: Lenovo/IBM,  
HP, Dell, Sony, Apple, and Toshiba. Don't buy from them. That's my thought on  
this. There may be other issues with other companies, but at least those  
companies aren't implementing digital restrictions.


One last thing about the Lenovo laptops. Not only do we know Lenovo uses  
digital restrictions (and was the first to start using them) there is yet  
another reason to avoid Lenovo. A member of the free software community who I  
bump into regularly and know well has identified code in Lenovo laptops which  
communicates (via encrypted means) information about its user. Simply  
flashing libreboot is not enough to eliminate this spyware. While we don't  
know exactly what information is being communicated at this time it's another  
reason we should be avoiding Lenovo/IBM laptops altogether rather than  
working on freeing them. Reverse engineering is a good idea in some cases.  
However when it involves doing so to a line of laptops from a company that is  
hindering free software adoption I feel it should be avoided. There is no  
good reason in my mind for furthering entrenching said company's reputation  
in the eyes of other users. A 100% free laptop which is recognizable is still  
promoting a bad company. It's furthering the brand recondition and that is  
bad. It's intolerable.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread Michał Masłowski
Where is that Lenovo spyware located: in BIOS or firmware of another
chip?  I know two related issues: spyware in their BIOS (replaced by
coreboot/libreboot) and ME firmware in all models since X61 (while only
X60 is supported by libreboot), this one is different.

Avoiding laptop manufacturers that are "hindering free software
adoption" requires using nonfree software (which cannot be replaced for
e.g. post-GM45 Intel chipsets) or buying old computers without much hope
for future products, it's not a clearly superior solution.


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[Trisquel-users] What maintainted add-on is similar to this?

2014-07-21 Thread gary02121993

https://trisquel.info/en/browser/addons/aging-tabs

Tried to install it but it is outdated and uncompatible with my updated  
Abrowser. Are there similar add-ons? Thanks! 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searching for Open Wifi

2014-07-21 Thread chris
I actually just posted on this. I believe this is a near complete list of the  
802.11n wireless chipsets that are free software friendly:


RTL8187L/RTL8187B/RTL8187 - USB G wireless Adapters
AR9271/AR9170/AR7010+AR9280 - USB N Wireless Adapters
AR9280/AR9281/AR9285/AR9287 - PCI/PCI Express Wireless N Cards (desktop and  
laptop cards)


* There is one Broadcom chipset left off the list that is also free software  
friendly technically although from my understanding/recollection its not a  
good choice. It's a PCI/PCIe chipset. One of the developers advised me  
against using it. This was a developer who actually worked at and did the  
work on behalf of Broadcom (from what I recall/understand). That said there  
is at least one user here whose been using it without issue. A user of one  
though isn't really a good evaluation to go off. Given the combined info I  
have on it from various sources/people/etc I'd advise not using it and going  
with one of the other chipsets. I'd also advise against the AR9170 chipset at  
this time even though it is a good free software friendly chipset. It's based  
on an older draft N spec and may/does not work as well with some routers.


http://libre.thinkpenguin.com/

You can find the wifi adapters amongst other free software friendly hardware  
with the above chipsets at the above site. You can order from a US or UK  
warehouse with shipment almost anywhere. If you do order 25% of the profits  
will go to the Trisquel project too.


* Disclaimer: I'm the CEO of the company above.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Kongoni GNU/Linux

2014-07-21 Thread gnufreeme

Not a good sign:

The website is now being used by someone else for some other computer-related  
business. I don't know if it's the old maintainer or not, but it definitely  
isn't being used for the distro.


Too bad.  A fully free Slackware would be nice.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser 30 slow html5 video

2014-07-21 Thread arielgnu
Well, this seems to happen only on full screen. Exiting the full screen  
doesn't fix the problem thought. Refreshing the page does momentarily, until  
the problem comes again after a while.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What maintainted add-on is similar to this?

2014-07-21 Thread mikko . viinamaki

You can try maxversion bumping it, see e.g.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080701223109/http://forum.addonsmirror.net/index.php?showtopic=973#post-member-3818


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread chris
I'm not sure. Lenovo systems though have a number of different firmware  
pieces. Simply flashing LibreBoot doesn't fix it. That much I know. You might  
be able to write over it or something similar. It doesn't solve the problem  
that it exists in the first place though.


I think your missing something in what I'm saying. We have two options and  
we're taking the least desirable path right now.


Option 1: Free laptops from companies hostile to free software adoption like  
Lenovo and Apple


Option 2: Free laptops from companies that have not been hostile to free  
software adoption (at a minimum are not implementing digital restrictions or  
other spyware)


Your drawing a conclusion that I'm saying adoption of hardware dependent on  
non-free software is superior to that of one not. I think flashing a free  
BIOS on a Lenovo laptop is more of a wash than anything. While its better  
than a non-free BIOS it's not moving us any further along.





[Trisquel-users] Can't freakin' comment on an awesome YouTube video! :(

2014-07-21 Thread gary02121993
Trying to comment as well as being first :D on this video:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6LU_kUwySI


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser 30 slow html5 video

2014-07-21 Thread arielgnu
Yes confirm, this only happens in "720p HD" on full screen. 360p works fine  
at full screen.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser 30 slow html5 video

2014-07-21 Thread arielgnu
I have notice that html5 videos in abrowser seem to require kind of a lot  
from the computer, specially in small netbook computers, but this is the  
first time happing with my laptop.


Using linterna magica or even downloading the same videos played with totem  
plays smoothly at 720p even in old computers. So I wonder why abrowser has so  
many problems playing webm videos.


oh well, hopefully could give me some ideas.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread Michał Masłowski
Unless we want free boot firmware, we should choose option 2, boycott
Apple and Lenovo.  If we want free boot firmware, we need laptops
similar to ones for which hard reverse engineering work was done, like
Lenovo X60 or the Apple laptop using similar chips.

A modified Lenovo laptop being the only FSF-endorsed one isn't good.  I
think it will motivate people to get X60 for use with the proprietary
BIOS (and wifi whitelist) or newer Lenovo laptops with proprietary BIOS
and AMT.  Users already buy AMD systems after reading the FSF page on
how Intel opposes free boot firmware (and get the usual graphics issues
due to missing blobs).

Currently no solution is much better than others, much work is needed to
change this, probably via reverse engineering for non-Intel systems.


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[Trisquel-users] Re : Kongoni GNU/Linux

2014-07-21 Thread magicbanana
I tried what probably was the first version of Kongoni GNU/Linux. The package  
management was *horrible*: extremely slow, very few packages, buggy GUI.


If I recall well, the project later included some proprietary software. Adobe  
Flash I believe.


Anyway, the project looks dead now.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser 30 slow html5 video

2014-07-21 Thread arielgnu

I found the following solution:

http://superuser.com/questions/741355/html5-video-playback-is-choppy-and-corrupted-in-firefox

Just go to edit>preferences>advance tap and disable "Use hardware  
acceleration when available".


Maybe this could help in old computers and netbook.

I think I should have made the tittle of this post more specifically like  
"Youtube html5 video choppy" or something. Hope it helps some one out there.


Thank you all :)


[Trisquel-users] BLAG Linux and GNU

2014-07-21 Thread blade . vp2020

hi
What happened to BLAG Linux and GNU
Is still alive?


Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG Linux and GNU

2014-07-21 Thread gary02121993
You're probably new to the Free Software world? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG Linux and GNU

2014-07-21 Thread blade . vp2020

no I old to the Free Software world
but Busy with programming


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Driver for Ralink RT2790?

2014-07-21 Thread chris
Yea- ultimately the best solution is neither of the above. The best solution  
is to move away from x86. I think we would need a more coordinated effort to  
do that. We need 1. people with reverse engineering skills, 2. people with  
some development background/packaging skills (Rubén a.k.a. quidam is a good  
example), 3. demand, and 4. financial resources, 5. hardware engineers, 6.  
companies that are actually designing the chipsets cooperation, and 7.  
cooperation from a company capable of doing the actual manufacturing. I think  
we could probably muster up 1, 2, 5, possibly 6, and 7. 3,4 might be more  
challenging. I don't think there is going to be enough user demand. People  
are just too particular and want something very specific. That's just not  
going to be what they get. They're going to get whatever the most desired  
feature set is/and or what we're actually capable of doing given the above  
resources.




Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG Linux and GNU

2014-07-21 Thread gnufreeme
Distrowatch has a "Pre-Alpha" from May of this year and lists the status as  
"Active". The previous release looks to have been 2011. I hope this means  
it's being picked back up. 


[Trisquel-users] Re : BLAG Linux and GNU

2014-07-21 Thread magicbanana
Blag is back on track. Jeff Moe left it but, after an uncertain period, the  
community managed to release version 140k (based on Fedora 14). It was  
admittedly quite some time ago. However 200k (based on Fedora 20) should be  
released soon: http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?t=5619


[Trisquel-users] I connected my Android phone and can't see it in file explorer.

2014-07-21 Thread gary02121993
I want to snyc my music. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] I connected my Android phone and can't see it in file explorer.

2014-07-21 Thread chris
You may want to check out Replicant. It's a free android replacement. Android  
is not free. That said if you can't sync your phone you may be able to  
utilize a microsd card reader instead.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I connected my Android phone and can't see it in file explorer.

2014-07-21 Thread davesamcdxv
Has your phone got an option (usually accessible through notifications on  
mine) to either only recharge the phone with the USB connection or to make  
the phone treat itself as a storage dive?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't freakin' comment on an awesome YouTube video! :(

2014-07-21 Thread lutheroto
Commenting on Youtube requires 3rd-party cookies, which is a security flaw,  
because it leaks data about your web browsing to those 3rd-party web sites.  
The following is a message from an apparent Google tech-support guy:


"Yes, I agree that it should be fixed, but it's not going to be a quick or  
easy fix. I suspect that when the new system was developed, nobody stopped to  
consider whether third-party cookie filtering might pose a problem. It's not  
a bug -- that is, it's not a mistake in the code that's making it behave  
wrongly -- but a design flaw, and fixing design flaws means redesigning  
something. If YouTube and Google+ can't use cookies to communicate, that will  
have to scrapped and replaced by a server-side solution.


FWIW, I know that the folks at YouTube are now aware that this is an issue."

That post was made way back on 2013-12-16. The whole thread is here:  
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/youtube/unable$20to$20comment|sort:relevance|spell:true/youtube/AUNr4ikX9pU


I've tried to enable exceptions to the 3rd-party cookie block, but Abrowser  
doesn't seem to allow that. That's probably a good thing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser 30 slow html5 video

2014-07-21 Thread alonivtsan
If you use ViewTube Greasemonkey script you can watch the videos using VLC,  
Totem or other video players.

http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en


Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG Linux and GNU

2014-07-21 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Great to hear that. BLAG did some nice work on Linux-libre.