Re: [Trisquel-users] IceDove replaced Thunderbird.
Don't forget Evolution!
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
On 22.11.2014 03:44, blade.vp2...@gmail.com wrote: Is this fsf free hardware? http://www.wired.com/2014/04/novena/ Short answer: NO. Long answer: Free hardware design devices != free software (or FSF-certified freedom-respecting) device The wifi internal card is (as of now) ath9k and freedom-respecting, no nonfree firmware required: Ships with pre-installed: Ath9k (blob-free firmware) mPCIe wifi card, 802.11n b/g 1T1R https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop However, this laptop can't get the RYF certification until solves the video card freedom issues: Major firmware risk areas are: - graphics: there are no Free Software drivers for the 3D core - video: there are no Free Software drivers for the hardware video accelerator DSP https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata http://turbureanu.ro/contact Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
On 22.11.2014 10:33, Tiberiu C. Turbureanu wrote: Free hardware design devices != free software (or FSF-certified freedom-respecting) device Also, completely open source is of course a big overstatement as usually when people say something is open source. To have a completely free hardware design, this laptop should have free hardware designs for all its components, not just for the main board. I doubt the internal video card, wifi card, etc have free hardware designs. Those are mainstream proprietary design hardware. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata http://turbureanu.ro/contact Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri
Re: [Trisquel-users] desktop freezes when trying to use compiz in Trisquel 7
If you want to disable compton without unisntall it do this: $ sudo nano /etc/xdg/autostart/compton-autostart.desktop Then, comment every line in that file: #[Desktop Entry] #Type=Application #Name=Compton composition manager #Exec=compton-launcher #NoDisplay=true #X-GNOME-AutoRestart=true #X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase=Initialization #OnlyShowIn=GNOME; that should do.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
On 22.11.2014 04:46, ja...@bluehome.net wrote: Probably Debian GNU/Linux. Confirmed: All configurations will come with Debian (GNU/Linux) pre-installed https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop In addition to the graphics they'd need to swap out the distro for an FSF-approved one. None of them currently support ARM though. The most recent discussion on this topic I could find is this: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-dev/2014-04/msg00031.html However, I couldn't find any follow up from the original poster to Michał's question: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-dev/2014-04/msg00032.html -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata http://turbureanu.ro/contact Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
What a strange reply. We don't suggest proprietary software here, please don't do it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
I really don't believe porting an FSF-endorsed distro to an ARM board would be hard. The two main problems are: lack of appropriate boards (no FSF-endorseable ones, the developers are not interested in porting to something less free; I think also some high-performance ones are needed for native builds) and lack of sufficiently interested developers (due to the boards issue?). I remember statements from developers of gNewSense and Trisquel that hardware is the main issue. If these issues are solved, then porting gNewSense, Trisquel or Parabola would probably require just enabling upstream armhf repo (or, in case of Parabola, merging changes/packages from the upstream derivative with ARMv7 support), deblobbing a kernel branch, building all modified packages and maybe fixing portability issues in added code. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
How could it be that, if it ships with Debian, it does'nt respect user's freedom ?, If the user really wants freedom, then he or she won't enable the non-free repo. It's as simple as that.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
On 22.11.2014 12:00, shis...@riseup.net wrote: How could it be that, if it ships with Debian, it does'nt respect user's freedom ?, If the user really wants freedom, then he or she won't enable the non-free repo. It's as simple as that. 3d acceleration is an important feature and if you can't have this with free software on this laptop, then it means that this laptop doesn't respect your freedom™. Nothing simpler. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata http://turbureanu.ro/contact Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri
Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale
On 22.11.2014 12:08, Tiberiu C. Turbureanu wrote: On 22.11.2014 12:00, shis...@riseup.net wrote: How could it be that, if it ships with Debian, it does'nt respect user's freedom ?, If the user really wants freedom, then he or she won't enable the non-free repo. It's as simple as that. 3d acceleration is an important feature and if you can't have this with free software on this laptop, then it means that this laptop doesn't respect your freedom™. Nothing simpler. And because of this, I am sure they will ship Novena preinstalled with Debian with the non-free repository enabled. As FreedomBox does too for the wifi AFAIK (which is ironical, considering the name of the project and its script called freedom-maker). https://raw.githubusercontent.com/freedombox/freedom-maker/master/bin/freedombox-customize -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata http://turbureanu.ro/contact Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru: http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
I can confirm, I have three of these things and they are amazing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
do a text install, which is net-installer. install e17 for GUI.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
Where are you reading $44? I'm reading $24.97: https://mediacru.sh/XHRkfMW0wYXG
[Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
I posted a topic about this recently. Now I've written an essay about it: https://onpon4.github.io/other/kill-js/ I've come to the conclusion that making JavaScript code libre is the wrong direction to take. I think automatically installed JavaScript should just be rejected, and I have started doing so. By the way, a useful trick: one common use of JavaScript code is to show elements that are hidden by default (spoiler tags, for example). You can right-click on such elements, choose Inspect Element, and modify the CSS display attribute from none to (or just get rid of the part that modifies the display attribute). It takes a couple seconds, so it's obviously less convenient than using the JavaScript code, but it's very easy. The Inspect Element feature can also be useful for other things, like floating boxes that block text.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
if it cost $44 dollars, and they give 25% ($11) to trisquel, isn't better to buy one for 5$ and donate $39 to trisquel? just asking.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
25% of the profit - definitely less than $11.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
Get a USB hard drive, tape (or otherwise stick) it onto the monitor.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
you're right, even better :-)
Re: [Trisquel-users] No Handbrake in Belenos?
You can add Toutatis' repo and add it from there..
Re: [Trisquel-users] long-term sustainability of Trisquel -- what if we lose core developers?
What reccomendation? I think most of the post was about personal experiences and opinions? Except maybe debootstrap: https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap (the subdirectory referred to in the page can be a lot of things, including a directory to which another partition is mounted, which is how debootstrap can be used to install an (albeit kernelless) installation of Debian (and distros based on itUbuntu), which can then be chrooted into and have packages installed from there (i.e. a kernel). Respectfully as well :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
The problem is that 2GB is an awfully small amount (I've got that much RAM, and in a $400 laptop of a decent size (it's anything but business quality, though)) for an operating system plus files. And having said that your 2nd sentence was the solution to what we both can see, but only one of use think of as an actual problem, I guess.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
Can i use an SD card? it has a port for SD card, i could just use that as a hard drive? if its the case how can i make the Eee PC to be able to install it in that hard drive?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
I think I've read something about how flash drives and SD cards will wear out faster or something like that, while har drives won't (so I really suggest a hard drive). Anyway, how many USB ports have you got?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel
Anyway, what version of Debian are you using? Oh, and another (and unrelated) thing: Free Software as defined according to the 4 freedoms isn't about how a project is governed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
I use an SD card to boot my eee PC 900A. It's a tad slower than the 4 gig SSD, but it works fine. You can use the installer, just select other. You should see something along the lines of sda 2048MB sdb 16384MB and you select sdb, click on the defaults, and go get yourself a cup of coffee while it installs. warm smiles You will want an external drive to store your files, but there should be enough room for the configuration files in your home directory. Mine still has Trisquel 6 on it, but that may change by the time you read this if the video card is up for Belenos, which my nice laptop's isn't. You're inspiring me to revive it and go get some groceries with my new laptop fund. :D
Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel
Surely you meant Jaunty/Karmic/Lucid/Maverick/Natty/Oneiric/Precise/Quantal (after which, or maybe after Precise? it became clear they were moving to Debian)/Wheezy?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
ok i have a 1 Tb external hard drive, a Trascended, i think i will just do the tape the harddrive thing but how can i make the Eee to install trisquel in this drive?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
Use a flash drive with another USB port? Then install from the live session to the hard drive (I think it's an option available in the installer). And then (as I've nearly forgotten), pray that the laptop's capable of booting from a USB hard drive. Otherwise I hope someone here can clarify if Super Grub2 Disk is free software, and if it can be installed to an internal hard drive (I don't see why not but I haven't tried yet).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
Reading an article about software freedom that is itself hosted by non-free software seems ironic.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
It is also good to support people like Chris Bob that help us to have places to actually run our free software in freedom.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
I was thinking the same thing. Julian, I enjoyed reading this essay, but I would stay away from Github whenever possible. They're extremely corporate-minded. the GPL is too restrictive and dogmatic to be usable in many cases. I want everyone to benefit from my code. Everyone. That's what Open should mean, and that's what Free should mean. - Tom Preston-Warner, co-founder http://tom.preston-werner.com/2011/11/22/open-source-everything.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
javascript has always been turned off for me since I first understood how many problems ,especially security wise, it can introduce.. always off..
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
When I last weighed my options, it was the best choice I could find. I was only looking at gratis hosts at the time because I didn't have a stable source of income, and the only other alternative I could find which didn't require gratuitous JavaScript and didn't require me to run proprietary software, 000webhost (which was what I used before GitHub), seems to be censored by ATT; I can't access most of its servers except through Tor. I just haven't looked for a new host since then.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
Onpon, there is one big flaw in your argumentation: you portray the installation and execution of a javascript program as equal to the installation and execution of normal software. It's just not the same thing. The capabilities of javascript are far, far (!) more limited than this is the case for ordinary programs. I think the whole problem gets exaggerated.
[Trisquel-users] I love Trisquel 7
I own a Snares Penguin notebook computer (with an SSD drive) from thinkpenguin.com. I recently upgraded from Trisquel 6 to Trisquel 7, which was extremely easy. The upgrade is fantastic. The computer and software are a powerhouse combination. Thank you, Trisquel, and thank you, ThinkPenguin.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
It is still software and, regardless of what it can do, still needs to be free. The free software movement is about ethics, not about security or other issues (although they do intersect but still, you know what I mean.) :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive
The Eee PC is capable of doing so, at least from what other people said in the comments on the page.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
That makes sense. But there are other choices. You can search for SDF, or devio.us. I would host your website if you want on my linode VPS. All the services I've mentioned don't necessarily align with the goals of GNU, but github in particular I have issues with because of their 'corporate startup bro' attitude, and because they have become popular in the mainstream.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die
That may be so, but still the comparison drawn in the essay is not correct. It basically reads like 'look how awefull it is that thousands of programs get installed and executed on our pcs from random sources without our permission' but it doesn't talk about the major differences here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
From: onp...@riseup.net Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it! Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:18:44 +0100 (CET) Where are you reading $44? I'm reading $24.97: https://mediacru.sh/XHRkfMW0wYXG My tests show $24.97 via Tor, $40.59 from the UK, $44.00 from Sweden. I think @Chris has some serious explaining to do...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
Here's what it looks like from here:
Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!
The prices are not that different. They're just being shown differently. Taxes in the US are lower and the taxes are collected differently. In the US the taxes are collected at the end of the purchasing process whereas in Europe they are included in the price shown of the product. As an example: A US receipt: $50 USD WIFI ADAPTER $10 USD Tax --- Total price: $60 USD European receipt: $60 USD WIFI ADAPTER Total price: $60 USD There is some adjustment to compensate for our cost differences as well. The shipping was cut in half for example (roughly). In any event you're also not taking into consideration all the 'free' services your getting from the higher prices. In the US people who go to college have to pay back student loans and health care isn't covered by the government. Many people have to pay thousands of dollars every month for health insurance, student loans, cars, car insurance, and other similar expenses. Cars in the United States are not a luxury in most places. They are essential as there is no public transportation.
