[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf

The file displayed upon executing the sed command.

My bad. I forgot to write the option -i that allows to actually edit the  
file (rather than showing the result on the standard output and letting the  
file untouched):

$ sudo sed -i 's/--unrestricted//g' /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Sorry about that. I am correcting my original instructions right now.

You really need to fire 'sudo update-grub' after altering GRUB's  
configuration.


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread davesamcdxv

I never have them installed to begin with.

Thanks for that debfoster suggestion. though. Didn't know about that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unable to login into the forum with abrowser

2015-01-12 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Glad to hear that, you're welcome.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Munich To Help Shape Future of LibreOffice

2015-01-12 Thread shiretoko

With this new iconset, i like the interface.
It looks nice and i can do whatever i want to do with it.
Libreoffice is one of my favourite pieces of free software and i like it much  
more as libreoffice back then.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Munich To Help Shape Future of LibreOffice

2015-01-12 Thread davidvargas1

I use libre office overall in all my computers.
 When we do a lot of Clerical work, never had an issue with them. In my  
opinion they set the standard higher than the stupid MS Office. I donate one  
dollar last year towards their project with some doubt, but after using their  
product it has been no looking back.


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread mail

Here's the FSF's version, which is under a Free Documentation license.
http://shop.fsf.org/product/Introduction_to_Command_Line/
Available for purchase or gratis download.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Website problems

2015-01-12 Thread tegskywalker
http://mirror.fsf.org/trisquel-images/ has the ISO images and .torrent files  
too and is pretty much the main source of the ISO images and the packages  
when you use Trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread onpon4
It's not the command line of Linux. Hardly anything that a typical  
GNU/Linux user does in the command line has anything to do with the kernel,  
if anything at all. Standard POSIX commands are all GNU. apt-get, yum, etc  
are all package managers developed by separate groups. Skimming through that  
book, it looks to me like it focuses on GNU, all the while calling it  
Linux, and even trying to justify calling it Linux at one point by saying  
that it's unfair to other programs.


That aside, there's a pretty good reason to reject this book: it's under a  
proprietary license that forbids derivative works and commercial use.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unable to login into the forum with abrowser

2015-01-12 Thread dooleyn
Thanks again lembas. I was not aware of that package. I'm able to watch video  
now on the sites supported by the viewtube greasemonkey script.


[Trisquel-users] Munich To Help Shape Future of LibreOffice

2015-01-12 Thread tegskywalker

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/german-city-munich-help-shape-future-libreoffice

Hopefully they will fix that god awful interface straight out of 1997.




Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-12 Thread trisquel-57dhdj
You can install a different OS in a separate disk. Then your family can use  
another OS with a non-libre setup


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop equivalent of macbook pro for Trisquel in 2015 ?

2015-01-12 Thread francesco . ragazzi
thanks davidnotcoulthard - the thinkpenguin computers are indeed better  
priced, but the design is not as good...I have to see if I can wait and put  
the extra bucks!!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unable to login into the forum with abrowser

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf
Using your web browser in private browsing mode should delete your cookies  
each time you restart your browser.


To delete them when the tab/window is closed, you can use this add-on:  
https://trisquel.info/en/browser/addons/self-destructing-cookies


Re: [Trisquel-users] laptop: intel integrated AND Nvidia GeForce GT 840M

2015-01-12 Thread trisquel-57dhdj

Thanks.
Just for understanding..

As I will use only Free and Open Source Software, I have two questions

1) I'will have problem regarding non-free drivers or binary blob?

2) Will FOOS prevent me from loading or using binary data loaded in BIOS or  
in the CARD ?


Thanks for you patience 


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf
Booting by hand and letting APT do the job is another way to go. This time  
I am not even sure you need to execute 'sudo update-grub': 'apt-get' has  
probably executed it for you (command called from a post-processing script).  
Anyway, it does not hurt.


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread ka1cey

Answering post #21:
Sounds like you're good to go re:  making that machine a full-time Trisquel  
box!  You might have to run hwinfo as root; try

sudo hwinfo




Re: [Trisquel-users] laptop: intel integrated AND Nvidia GeForce GT 840M

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf
The BIOS is out of the scope of the operating system. Trisquel, more  
precisely its kernel (Linux-libre), does not contain any blob. I do not know  
about you specific model but nVidia cards are not as bas as AMD's: it should  
work fine and you will probably even get some 3D acceleration. Anyway, stick  
to Intel graphical chipsets for your next purchases. Linux-libre perfectly  
handles them.


Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf

You can as well do that with several partitions on one single disk.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop equivalent of macbook pro for Trisquel in 2015 ?

2015-01-12 Thread garsmith
Their is today more or less impossible to get a MBP 15 inch laptop  
replacement. All other laptops have 16x9 screen and a numpad that moves the  
keyboard and mousepad so it isnt in line with the screen. And other laptop  
developers wonder why people like Apples hardware.


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread tesseract

Nice!


[Trisquel-users] Re : Munich To Help Shape Future of LibreOffice

2015-01-12 Thread calinou
To get a modern icon set, you can try `sudo apt install  
libreoffice-style-sifr`.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Retrieving mail from old hard drives into IceDove

2015-01-12 Thread amenex

Regarding syntax:

 chown --help reveals:
 Usage: chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...

Which to me means OWNER comes before GROUP in:

 sudo chown -R george.users ~/.icedove/*

Besides ... it worked, and the locked symbols instantly went away on all  
the root-owned accounts under Icedove.


Automatic changes in ownership could lead to security issues, so I accept  
their absence.


Regarding associations: Right clicking on an Inbox file that is OK in Icedove  
and selecting applications, Icedove is at the top of the list, but fails to  
even try to open the file. Gedit is there, too, and tries mightily to open  
the Inbox file, but it's too big to finish loading.


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread noordinaryspider
Much appreciated, islander. I'm not an expert by any means, but i'm looking  
forward for my download to finish so I can check it out myself.


The specific friend I'm thinking of needs more security and would enjoy the  
Blag community.


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread shiretoko

Please tell us about your theme - it looks awesome!
Who said again that free software looks ugly?


[Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-12 Thread dudu9020

Hey,

I finally installed Trisquel GNU/Linux on my main machine and I encountered a  
rather ugly font in my gnome-terminal. So I installed the Ubuntu fonts and  
configured them. But I don't really want to use it. :-)


What terminal fonts do you use? Can you suggest some (especially the ones you  
use).


Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unable to login into the forum with abrowser

2015-01-12 Thread tomlukeywood

thats what i did!
thanks for the tip though


Re: [Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-12 Thread onpon4
I use the default font (I don't consider it to be ugly), but one you could  
try is Droid Sans Mono.


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread franparpe

Wait a second, BLAG is still alive? And it is focused on security?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Munich To Help Shape Future of LibreOffice

2015-01-12 Thread rainteller

[a bit of an OT]
Out I've been using LO for some time now but Abiword caught my attention when  
I tried LXDE. Is there a big difference between Abiword and LO Writer?


Re: [Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-12 Thread legimet . calc
I use the default in Konsole, which is DejaVu Sans Mono (and Monospace is  
an alias for it)


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-recommended package

2015-01-12 Thread onpon4
No. It's just a meta-package. Removing it won't have any particular effect at  
all (the only effect will be that you'll be able to remove packages that  
trisquel-recommended depends on, if you want).


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread rainteller

Really glad I could be of help :)

Now, shiver me timbers if you won't find gmake in Trisquel repository. The  
trick is to seek for 'make', though, as this is what gmake seems to be called  
in Ubuntu.


This thread can be of additional help to you:  
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=389841


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread tomlukeywood
i relise that the DE was the users choice but my eyes have never seen such a  
perfect desktop!


i must try diffrent themes one day i guess!

btw do you know how to change de's on trisquel 7?
i could not find a option to.


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread noordinaryspider
@tomlukeywood either use Synaptic or type sudo apt-get install fluxbox  
*lxde *KDE into a terminal window and then click on the icon next to your  
username to switch DEs the next time you log in.


You may need to add a PPA for MATE, Trinity, Cinnamon, etc.; those are just  
my own personal favourites that are right there in the reps. I couldn't get  
JWM to work and Flux is close enough for my current purposes.


Sugar is also available if you have kids who would enjoy it, but I had  
trouble switching back and forth with it and Heather Jr. (who is actually  
male) likes the default DE best.





[Trisquel-users] Issue tracker cleanup

2015-01-12 Thread ruben

Cross-posting from the devel list for visibility.

--

In a round of cleanup of the issue tracker, Aklis and me have been updating  
many issues today. One important set of issues we worked on are the ones  
listing other issues, a good way to track overall progress and pending tasks.  
So far we have worked on:


[#10056]
[#10004]
[#5052]
[#8038]
[#5311]

If you know of any other meta-issues we may have overlooked, please tell.

Some notes:

* When linking to an issue, you can and should use [#1234] with the issue  
number, instead of making an html link. That is not only simpler but makes  
the links show the issue status, and they update automatically.
* Issues that get listed on this kind of meta-issues should not be marked as  
duplicates, as that defeats the point of marking issues as duplicates.  
Duplicate means ignore. Issues that were marked that way are now set as  
active.
* We have renamed the mentioned meta-issues, to List of * issues, so they  
are easier to find.
* I've cleaned up and condensed the comment threads in those issues, in most  
cases by grouping the issues by author, but in some cases I put everything in  
the first comment and deleted the others, for cleanliness sake. Don't read  
anything personal in it ;)

* I think the two FSDG related lists should be merged. Discuss.


The next steps are going to be towards simplifying the tracker in general, to  
avoid some confusing points (like statuses, priorities, categories and  
components), implementing a triaging system, and adapting the workflow to use  
with the git repos and merge requests.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf
With the -i option, the 'sed' command really modifies the file at input.  
Without it, it takes the content of the file as its input and write its  
output to the terminal. The input file is left unmodified.


In the context above I meant editing the kernel line in GRUB and booting it  
(like ssdclickofdeath explained) when I wrote booting by hand.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf
And this password is an annoyance for most users; useful for close to nobody.  
We have one more example here. For reference, here is the last time I  
discussed that annoyance in this one-week-old message:  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/new-user-root-password-problems#comment-61998


[Trisquel-users] trisquel-recommended package

2015-01-12 Thread rainteller
Software that comes pre-installed seems to all have trisquel-recommended as  
its dependency. Could the removing of this package (to remove other packages)  
break Trisquel in any way?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread aferyok

Success!
I used the comments of Magic Banana, ssdclickofdeath, and lembas.  (I  
followed the procedure of ssdclickofdeath, because I thought that I  
understood it.)

I greatly appreciate the assistance that all of you provided to me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread pandyadeepp
OK. I agree and want to replace  The Linux Command Line  with  Introduction  
to The Command Line  (Also available  pdf version for gratis download) in my  
post But I can't edit my post.


Any way Thankyou and also to  jadedctrl  who suggest FSF's Version under free  
document license.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-12 Thread tegskywalker

I use Droid Sans Mono at 10 pt


Re: [Trisquel-users] Website problems

2015-01-12 Thread tegskywalker
Ruben also needs to setup some 301 redirects for  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/users to send to  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-users


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unable to login into the forum with abrowser

2015-01-12 Thread maestro

tomlukeywood - cookies are a major threat to your privacy.
in the preferences privacy tab uncheck accept cookies from sites and cleck  
on exceptions and enter trisquel.info and set it as allow for session


cheers


Re: [Trisquel-users] Retrieving mail from old hard drives into IceDove

2015-01-12 Thread amenex
Upon looking at the .icedove folder with File Manager, I discovered that the  
account that was working OK was under my ownership, but the others were open  
only to root (in Trisquel ?) so I did this:


 sudo chown -R george.users ~/.icedove/*

Which gave me the needed ownership ... alas, still to no avail. I 'spose that  
root owned them because I used sudo with the mv command ... Shouldn't  
Trisquel automatically make ownership of files under ~.icedove/* be  
consistent with the ownership of the Icedove application ? I'm not asked for  
my password to open Icedove.


Please also tell me why, when I navigate to an Inbox file, that I cannot  
right click and select, open with icedove ?  Not even on the ones that  
Icedove opens in its normal course of business.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I did it! I finally have wireless networking working on my laptop!

2015-01-12 Thread maestro
pssst - not so loud. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] What is Trisquel?

2015-01-12 Thread maestro

:)

plus 2 (and without using the voting shajt system!!)


Re: [Trisquel-users] laptop: intel integrated AND Nvidia GeForce GT 840M

2015-01-12 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Nvidia cards do work better but that's no thanks to nvidia but instead a 3rd  
party reverse engineering effort to produce nouveau, a free driver and  
firmware.


Also, intel cards will not work if they are powervr based.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
You can find the GRUB username/password for your install in  
/etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD


Re: [Trisquel-users] new user to linux

2015-01-12 Thread maestro

thanks jaded


Re: [Trisquel-users] Munich To Help Shape Future of LibreOffice

2015-01-12 Thread maestro

I used libre office write for a long long time. excellent.
better then m$ word



Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread aferyok

thanks ssdclickofdeath.
When I entered the e option at the grub menu, it asked for a username and  
password. I typed in my Trisquel ID and password, to no effect. I guess Grub  
has its own user name and password.
Regarding your from the kernal, I assume you mean that this is a certain  
part of the grub congiration file.


Re: [Trisquel-users] KVM no sound

2015-01-12 Thread Sachin
Don't install non-free software.
But to get sound from your VM you would need add a sound hardware emulator.
VM - View - Details - Add hardware - sound - model:default


Re: [Trisquel-users] Retrieving mail from old hard drives into IceDove

2015-01-12 Thread amenex
Continuing my saga ... After collecting vast quantities of old email  
repositories into one place on my NAS, I chose to start with the easiest  
one: The Thunderbird installation on my *indows laptop. I managed to do this  
by opening two instances of Terminal (one to help me keep track of the long  
path statements and the other for the heavy lifting). Then I moved just that  
one Profiles folder from NAS to a partition on a slave hard drive mounted in  
the desktop installation of Trisquel. That folder has been set up to keep  
track of my stored emails according to the source ISP account from which I  
originally pop'ed them down to the laptop. I used mv /sourcepath/filename  
/destinationpath/filename01 and so on. Except for a glitch having to do with  
Thunderbird filenames containing spaces, this went OK.


Except for one ISP which I no longer use: Trisquel's Icedove had no account  
set up for that ISP. Let's call it popmail.chopchop.net.  There are many  
files and mini-folders in this fairly well organized Inbox, but Icedove won't  
recognize popmail.chopchop.net as a valid folder, even though Terminal   
Trisquel are happy with it, as they are for other accounts which I had  
already set up when I installed Icedove.


So far I have just tried to set up this popmail.chopchop.net account as a  
MoveMail account ... as it doesn't seem right to use it as a popmail  
account ... but Icedove says unable to locate mail spool file when I try  
Get Messages and it won't accept popmail.chopchop.net as the folder under  
which this myriad of messages is organized.


Three other accounts under Icedove have mixed results: One has two Inboxes,  
called Inbox (original to the Icedoce installation) and Inbox01 (which is  
where I have put the Thunderbird emails) and this one is completely  
successful; A second account has two inboxes which are labelled strangely, as  
Terminal sees them as Inbox01 and Inbox02 (both my settings) whereas there is  
no folder called just Inbox. Icedove initially had two such folders called  
Inbox (original to the Icedove installation and containing emails OK) and  
under that a subfolder called INBOX (greyed out and inaccessible, even after  
I renamed it to Inbox01) in this second account. A third account looks like  
the first account, but its Inbox01 apparently is empty, even after I checked  
the active profile and found ext-based emails there with sudo cat Inbox01.


The situation with the second account did not improve when I changed the  
names, Inbox01 and Inbox02, to Inbox and Inbox01, respectively.


My /dev/sda6 partition is formatted xfs and is mounted during startup at  
/home, which is where these files are.


Apparently, I did something right with the first account that isn't working  
with the other two accounts.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop equivalent of macbook pro for Trisquel in 2015 ?

2015-01-12 Thread maestro
yes. I really wonder why people keep buying extremely overpriced hardware  
with a stupid apple logo on it...




Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-12 Thread maestro

this is the page https://popcorntime.io


Re: [Trisquel-users] What is Trisquel?

2015-01-12 Thread trinux

open issue!

https://trisquel.info/en/issues/13341


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB

2015-01-12 Thread aferyok

thanks ssdclickofdeath.
When I entered the e option at the grub menu, it asked for a username and  
password.  I typed in my Trisquel ID and password, to no effect.  I guess  
Grub has its own user name and password.
Regarding your from the kernal, I assume you mean that this is a certain  
part of the grub congiration file.


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-12 Thread dhfubq3oq
Ucclia has been running great on a 9 year old desktop - gNewSense4 beta -  
Xfce4 DE - greybird window theme - Faience Azur icons by tiheum on DeviantArt  
- Conky by oldgeek at Libre101 - Exaile playing Árstíðir(2009) by awesome  
Iceland band, Árstíðir (their 3rd album Kickstarter for $20,000 received  
$68,959 -  
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arstidir/arstiir-music-from-the-heart-of-iceland-our-third)  
- Wallpaper is Cubes from LinuxLite (non-free distro, but the artwork is  
incredible) - Browser is Pale Moon 25.1.0 by Moonchild, because I like the  
old 24.0esr framework.


@davidnotcoulthard - That's a nice looking desktop. BTW, Sam finished  
LibreOffice and uploaded it this weekend. Still working on Iceweasel.


@tomlukeywood - on *nix desktops, the look has always been users' choice! :)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_timeline.en.svg

@Heather - Just downloaded latest live Blag alpha and will test against Tails  
for security. Hope to share my $.02 opinion later.

ftp://blag.fsf.org/20/Live/x86_64/Alpha/

Live Free  Do Good Things!



Re: [Trisquel-users] Retrieving mail from old hard drives into IceDove

2015-01-12 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Did you get the syntax right when you issued the command? See the manual page  
for the correct syntax. And should not the group be george instead of  
users?


The permissions won't get automatically changed. There's no such logic at  
work. I don't think this should (or will) change.


Also, the files have not been associated with Icedove. Whether this should be  
so is another thing. That's probably not a common thing to do. Can you find  
Icedove in the list under right click  open with other app?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Configure guest-login in Trisquel 7

2015-01-12 Thread agoristmike

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/configure-login-prompt

This will set you up for disabling the guest account, and hiding the user  
list, if you wish to do so.