Re: [Trisquel-users] [Poll] Should Trisquel 9 be Based on Debian?

2017-10-31 Thread onpon4
I do think it's French, but we pronounce it "MAR-chent" (like "merchant", but  
with the "A" from "car" instead of the "E"). My grandfather at my dad's side  
was apparently adamant that he was British and not French (he came from  
Canada), so who knows.


[Trisquel-users] trouble installing 32-bit Flidas

2017-10-31 Thread masonhock
I downloaded the i686 ISO from http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso and  
used Startup Disc Creator in Belenos to create a bootable USB drive. I then  
rebooted and selected "Search ISOLINUX menu (USB)" from the libreboot GRUB  
menu, and got


error: syntax error.
error: Incorrect command.
error: syntax error.
Press any key to continue

I then did the exact same thing using the same USB drive with the Uruk beta  
ISO, and I was able to boot into Uruk with no problems, so I don't think it's  
a problem with libreboot or the USB drive. I then tried downloading the  
Flidas ISO again and starting over, and the same error occurred.


Any ideas as to what is going wrong? Thanks!


[Trisquel-users] Re : Forum Moderation Idea

2017-10-31 Thread lcerf

Useful information should actually be copied in the Wiki documentation.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread lcerf
Arch has the two usual problems: there's no clear policy about what software  
can be included, and nonfree blobs are shipped with their kernel, Linux. Arch  
also has no policy about not distributing nonfree software through their  
normal channels.

https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html


[Trisquel-users] Re : [URGENT] Parabola and Trisquel MISSING in PRISM-break!

2017-10-31 Thread lcerf

Teach them.  Use http://meet.jit.si or http://vroom.im for instance.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Forum Moderation Idea

2017-10-31 Thread pinmaritim

Some improvements would be great
I find the Debian http://forums.debian.net/ very good, one has to keep in  
mind the different languages sections.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread pinmaritim

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[Trisquel-users] Forum Moderation Idea

2017-10-31 Thread dhood
Has there ever been any consideration to having topics within the forum  
rather than having the single stream of consciousness we currently have?  
Ubuntu's forums have topics like "Desktop Environments", "Security", or more  
philosophical-like topics. Obviously we wouldn't need as many as Ubuntu, but  
having a few key one's might make it easier for people to find what they are  
looking for as our search function is often lacking in finding older posts  
that may still be helpful.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] [Poll] Should Trisquel 9 be Based on Debian?

2017-10-31 Thread csh
My mind's reading voice pronounces your last name like a French word. Is  
there a more Anglicized way to say it? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] [Poll] Should Trisquel 9 be Based on Debian?

2017-10-31 Thread csh
Stop fragmenting labor. What you are doing is harmful and helps nobody. Help  
an existing project or don't help at all. Your little pet project is a waste  
of labor, and you should be ashamed.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to keep Trisquel updated (security updates)

2017-10-31 Thread dhood
What security updates are you not receiving on Trisquel 7? I receive regular  
updates each time I run the appropriate commands. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread i_write_words

Mint has always rubbed me the wrong way.

"Can you install Linux Mint on my punkyouter if I give you this giant  
zucchini?"


"No, but I can install the Cinnamon desktop if you're into flavours of  
toothpaste!"





[Trisquel-users] Re : Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread pinmaritim
Sounds like Mint Tea driver(Scania Truck) that runs into an Arch on the Silk  
Road..haha!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread onpon4
I don't know about Arch. I've never used it. What does that have to do with  
Mint?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to keep Trisquel updated (security updates)

2017-10-31 Thread hd-scania
Latest security patches, i.e. cutting edge securities, you instead need  
Parabola but it is pacman based, if you need a Deb system Deb testing w/o  
contrib or nonfree is best to you.


[Trisquel-users] GNU Ada lamguage: A good reference for our GNU system commerce?

2017-10-31 Thread hd-scania
I have proudly announced an GNU OS and build system project for commerce, and  
our GNU wiki has told that GNU Ada language is a beneficial free software  
commerce, they dnt sell sources or binaries but sell LTS contracts.
But my business model is, the only rolling system and build service are  
sources-based only and gratis, like the Ada language offering sources and  
binaries by gratis.
But 2 editions of LTS systems are, sources-based edition not needing payments  
and worries of hardware architectures, but needing knowledge to handle  
sources.
Finally there is a paid and binaries-based edition of my LTS system, specific  
for embedded hardware systems, like the Ada language selling LTS contracts.
For EVERY editions you dnt need to worry for licenses which every nonfreeware  
are needed to be excluded, for what we are required to be an GNU system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread hd-scania

How about Arch? According to the few Debian channels,
main:DFSG libre software w/o contrib or nonfree deps
contrib: DFSG libre software but w nonfree deps
nonfree: DFSG nonfreeware
Backing to the Arch channels, which are "main", "contrib", or "nonfree"?  
"core" is main and any others are contrib? I need to confirm from the Arch  
forums.


Re: [Trisquel-users] [URGENT] Parabola and Trisquel MISSING in PRISM-break!

2017-10-31 Thread hd-scania
I NO LONGER use Google Play since these days and switched to F-droid and  
thanks, my mobile system is AOKP (I was used to try Lineage and experiences  
are NG due to high unstability), my mobile hardware is Samsung J715 and I  
care how much nonfree firmware there still are from my AOKP.


Re: [Trisquel-users] [URGENT] Parabola and Trisquel MISSING in PRISM-break!

2017-10-31 Thread hd-scania
I am still needed to use just few nonfree apps due to my legacy needs to  
contact between friends, and I no longer make and receive calls anymore to  
fully defend against malicious calls those are common in my country, there  
are PLENTY stupid people and they fully and unknowingly ignore free software.


[Trisquel-users] Re : [URGENT] Parabola and Trisquel MISSING in PRISM-break!

2017-10-31 Thread lcerf
If you have to use a cell phone, Replicant + F-droid is the best.  The second  
best solution (Replicant only runs on old models and not all their  
peripherals are supported) is the Librem 5, which will include some  
proprietary drivers.  Then, LineageOS (full of proprietary drivers) +  
F-Droid.  Never install Google Apps if you care about your freedom and  
privacy.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-31 Thread lcerf
Not even two weeks ago, you were recommending in *this* thread to not have  
swap: https://trisquel.info/forum/uruk-gnulinux-20-beta-2#comment-122235


It was a bad recommendation... but having 16 GiB of swap on a system with 4  
GiB of RAM is not a good recommendation either.  It is a waste o disk space.


Explaining in more details:

If the system does not have swap and runs out of RAM, the kernel kills a  
process.  It may happen even if the system has a huge amount of RAM, e.g.,  
after running for hours a program suffering from a memory leak triggered in  
some special condition.  The choice of the process to kill is rather  
arbitrary: the kernel may not kill the faulty process.
If the system has swap and runs out of RAM, it becomes slow.  Unbearably  
slow.  I measured: reading data on my SSD is about 50 times slower than on my  
RAM, 150 times if the data is on HDD.  Nobody will have the patience to use  
such a system until 16 GiB of swap are filled!  Noticing that her system has  
become slow, the user saves her work (she cannot in the previous situation,  
without swap), maybe run 'top' (or another system monitor) to discover what  
process eats up the memory resources, and chooses what program (probably that  
one) to close to free some memory.
Hibernating a system is dumping the main memory onto the swap (after zipping  
it).



No user will hibernate an unbearably slow system that is swapping.   
Consequently, having as much swap as RAM is enough.  If hibernation is never  
used, swap is still needed but 1 GiB looks enough for a desktop system.  For  
server systems, an alert should automatically be sent to the administrator is  
the system runs out of RAM.  The intervention (figuring out the faulty  
program and closing it) is delayed in comparison with a desktop system, with  
the user sitting in front of the screen.  That is why server systems had  
better have more swap.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to keep Trisquel updated (security updates)

2017-10-31 Thread pinmaritim

Hi Yoda ;-)

Gd_Scania certainly missunderstood you, Trisquel 7 & 8 user's wait till the  
security updates are provided by Trisquel's lead developer Ruben.






Re: [Trisquel-users] How to keep Trisquel updated (security updates)

2017-10-31 Thread yoda
I really don’t understand your answer! I’m not looking for the latest  
package version, since I’m not suffering from “versionitis”, but  
let’s say that I’m running Trisquel 7 and some of the packages have not  
being updated are waiting to receive a security update. What the do you do?  
What the people who use Trisquel do?

1 Keep waiting for the official security patch
2 look for Ubuntu, Debian package and update the package yourself
3 delete the package
4 or try to create a Trisquel package and submit it back to the community

I’m a Slackware user and that’s some of the things that I can do to keep  
my system with the latest security patches, so what is the common wisdom here  
with the Trisquel community?


I’m not bashing at the developers and/or the diestro itself but I have been  
thinking on switching to Trisquel and I would like to see what can I expect  
or not, or what I’m heading off.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

2017-10-31 Thread onpon4
They have never done that to my knowledge. Don't you remember that the Mint  
team doesn't care about this stuff? They've always thrown all software into  
the same place with no regard for whether it's libre or proprietary.


Re: [Trisquel-users] [URGENT] Parabola and Trisquel MISSING in PRISM-break!

2017-10-31 Thread masonhock
Even if your device runs only libre software, connecting to the telephone  
network with it allows your location to be triangulated. If you would like to  
send and receive phone calls and text messages without being tracked, JMP  
allows you to do so through the internet.