Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[mario . i . ruvalcaba]

I do not understand your point of view very well, IMHO everything is in ok.  
Only the updates corresponding to X server (graphical stack) were applied  
with the following:


sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04

Here is my log (sorry, my system's locale is Spanish language):

Log started: 2018-09-26  14:22:02
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246272 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)

Desinstalando trisquel (8.0-33) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1.2)  
...

Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-all (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu (1.1.2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-vmware (1:13.1.0-2ubuntu3) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-vesa (1:2.3.4-1build2) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-all (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-wacom (1:0.32.0-0ubuntu3) ...
dpkg: xserver-xorg-core: problemas de dependencias, pero se desinstalará de  
todas formas

 tal y como se solicitó:
 xserver-xorg-video-ati depende de xorg-video-abi-20; sin embargo:
  El paquete `xorg-video-abi-20' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' provee `xorg-video-abi-20' pero va a ser  
desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg-video-ati depende de xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.99.902); sin  
embargo:

  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' va a ser desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depende de xorg-input-abi-22; sin embargo:
  El paquete `xorg-input-abi-22' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' provee `xorg-input-abi-22' pero va a ser  
desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depende de xserver-xorg-core (>=  
2:1.17.99.902); sin embargo:

  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' va a ser desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg depende de xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.2-2).
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon depende de xorg-video-abi-20; sin embargo:
  El paquete `xorg-video-abi-20' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xser
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-core (2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8) ...
dpkg: xserver-xorg: problemas de dependencias, pero se desinstalará de todas  
formas

 tal y como se solicitó:
 xorg depende de xserver-xorg (>= 1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1).

Desinstalando xserver-xorg (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Procesando disparadores para libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
Procesando disparadores para man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 previamente no seleccionado.
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246124 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04_1%3a7.7+16ubuntu3~16.04.1_i386.deb ...

Desempaquetando xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 (1:7.7+16ubuntu3~16.04.1) ...
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246131 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)

Desinstalando xserver-xorg-legacy (2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-ati (1:7.7.0-1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-radeon (1:7.7.0-1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-qxl (0.1.4-3ubuntu3) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (1:1.0.12-1build2) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (1:0.4.4-1build5) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-evdev (1:2.10.1-1ubuntu2) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse (1:13.1.0-1ubuntu2) ...
dpkg: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: problemas de dependencias, pero se  
desinstalará de todas formas

 tal y como se solicitó:
 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 depende de xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04 |  
xorg-driver-input; sin embargo:

  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xorg-driver-input' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-synaptics' provee `xorg-driver-input' pero  
va a ser desinstalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse' que provee xorg-driver-input no  
está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-evdev' que provee xorg-driver-input no está  
instalado.


Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (1.8.2-1ubuntu3) ...
Procesando disparadores para man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete libxfont2:i386 previamente no seleccionado.
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246042 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../libxfont2_1%3a2.0.1-3~ubuntu16.04.3_i386.deb ...

Desempaquetando libxfont2:i386 (1:2.0.1-3~ubuntu16.04.3) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04 previamente no  
seleccionado.
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04_2%3a1.19.6-1ubuntu4~16.04.1_i386.deb ...

Desempaquetando xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04 (2:1.19.6-1ubuntu4~16.04.1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04 previamente no  
seleccionado.
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04_1%3a2.10.5-1ubuntu1~16.04.1_i386.deb  
...
Desempaquetando xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04  
(1:2.10.5-1ubuntu1~16.04.1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-16.04 previamente  
no seleccionado.
Preparando para desempaquetar  

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[jason]

But they wanted to apply ***Ubuntu's*** LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in  
Trisquel 8. Not Trisquel's. That's the very title of this thread. Pulling  
stuff from Ubuntu does raise this issue.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[mario . i . ruvalcaba]

you're right, I apply the update while installing the new version of the  
graphical stack, so in that sense would have no way to determine if the  
improvement in functionality is due to one or the other.


Regads.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[mario . i . ruvalcaba]

Well, I still have the X server up and running (LOL!). The installation  
process only showed me some warnings harmless but noisy but everything  
happened correctly.


As a first impression it seems to me that the rendering problem has been  
solved at the moment. I need to let more time pass to be able to confirm with  
full confidence that it has.


Before:

foo@bar:~$ inxi -G
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)  
Resolution: 1024x600@60.00hz

GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 18.0.5

After (right now):

foo@bar:~$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
   Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)  
Resolution: 1024x600@60.00hz
   GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4  
Mesa 18.0.5


Best regards.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[mario . i . ruvalcaba]

Thank you very much for the explanation, I am still adapting to the  
Trisquel's packages/structure.


Of course, I was just planning to install the suggested package as following:

sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04

Wish me luck.

@jxself: Thanks to you too for your advice.

Best regards.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[jason]

Ubuntu's so-called "enablement" things also include a newer kernel. Ubuntu's  
kernel includes proprietary junk. So be careful because by pulling in their  
so-called "enablement" stuff you might also get their horrible kernel wit all  
of its warts and general ugliness. You have been warned.

[Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

[mario . i . ruvalcaba]

Hi everyone!

Very probably this question is typical but I have searched the forum and I  
could not find a satisfactory answer to it.


I have tried to follow the procedure described here:  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack, but I get as a result the  
replacement of several critical components of the distribution, the trisquel  
metapackage to be more concrete.


In my case I want to install a newer version of the graphical stack for my  
computer (mesa/Intel driver) because I have some rendering issues with  
Firefox-like web browsers and I'm not interested in having a newer kernel  
version. In fact I wouldn't like it, version 4.4 is enough for me.


Any kind of help or comment would be appreciated.

Best regards.