Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's talk upgrading, lifecycles, and Trisquel 4.5

2012-03-28 Thread 2585004677

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's talk upgrading, lifecycles, and Trisquel 4.5

2012-03-15 Thread teodorescup
Well, all thou I haven't tested with the latest Trisquel's, as t3g pointed  
out earlier, there were/are (at least with other distro's) problems when one  
tries both upgrading and skipping one or more releases, with the 'proper  
tools'.


I'm not saying that the normal way is bad or anything, just that is simpler  
to both upgrade and skip one or more releases; by upgrading the packages  
using whatever repository you want.


Also, since I'm not using the Trisquel default desktop(s) and I'm  
'significantly' personalizing my Trisquel experience I doubt that I can  
'miss' that much by not using the normal way.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's talk upgrading, lifecycles, and Trisquel 4.5

2012-03-15 Thread tegskywalker
I'm not confused. The point of an LTS is a long term release which means I  
get 3-5 years of support instead of the 18 months of the standard release.  
People especially use an LTS for their web servers and many use them for  
their desktop to get a stable release for their home or work computer.


Other Ubuntu based distros like Linux Mint don't use the Update Manager  
shared by Ubuntu and Trisquel and sometimes even doing a dist-upgrade from  
one release to the next can cause issues. They recommend wiping the drive and  
starting from scratch with each release but I can understand why some people  
want to update the system through apt instead. That is why I wouldn't really  
recommend Linux Mint for a person that wants to use it for an extended period  
of time and wants easy upgrades.


I know that Canonical uses the non-LTS releases as a way to test out  
experimental features, but they work very hard in making sure their LTS  
releases are solid and will often remove things they don't seem 100% stable  
from the LTS release.


If you said it would be ok to do an LTS to LTS upgrade and the update manager  
is setup for that like in Ubuntu, then you have eased my worries.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's talk upgrading, lifecycles, and Trisquel 4.5

2012-03-15 Thread teodorescup
Personally, I dropped the concept of distribution upgrade in favor of package  
upgrade, and by that, I mean that I manually edit the sources.list with the  
repositories that I see fit (taranis=>dagda) and I let synaptic upgrade the  
packages; as long as the new versions are coming from a tested/stable  
repository it should be fine.



I am no expert so I can't say if it is more efficient but for me it  
simplified the options and I haven't had any troubles.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's talk upgrading, lifecycles, and Trisquel 4.5

2012-03-15 Thread chris

I think you have this confused in your head.

Trisquel 4.0.1 is the long term support release and it is based on Ubuntu  
10.04 not 10.10.


You should have continued upgrading to each new version if you installed 4.5.  
Which means you will need to upgrade to 5, 5.5, and then 6. Once you are on 6  
you I don't see any reason you can't stick with 6 though for another 3 years.  
The long term support releases have critical security updates for about 3  
years.


New LTS releases are available every 2 years for Ubuntu. All that means is  
you will have time to upgrade from one Trisquel LTS release to another  
without worrying about security updates being temporarily unavailable.


You won't have quite as long to upgrade from one LTS release to the next  
before those security updates stop coming though. You should still have  
plenty of time though. Probably 6+ months.